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Reply #120 posted 10/28/20 5:11am

IanRG

OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

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Silencing a group by mocking and tagging rather than addressing their issues goes back longer than that. It goes back to the beginning of politics. There have been many applications of this that are far worse than PC, SJWs, Karens and I have not heard of Linda's. McCarthyism in the USA, chhnam saun or Year Zero in Cambodia shows what happens when this gets out of hand.



and antifa (which is a PRO-facist group) is part of the SJW movement that is trying to take us down that same road... same with elements of other populist movements of late.

we can not dismiss it with a whataboutism card... As I say it it easy to agree when you agree but once a group gets moving it is not going to stop where you think it ought to...

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Why make things up?

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Antifa means Anti-fascist: fascism is by definition far right authoritarianism - you have failed with this lie time and time again - you are fooling no one but yourself and those already hell bent on attacking others for not agreeing with them.

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Your old far right meme to tag people as SJWs is to consider them to be nothing but internet complainers and not actual activitists (read the links above) - Yet you want to tag SJWs as including Antifa, which you consider to be too violently active activists - The problem with making thigs up is you need to keep your lies straight otherwise you trip over them.

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Why lie about what I said? I have done NO whataboutism, that was you. I have been complaining about the old far-right process of mocking and tagging people as SJWs as if this is a lighthearted joke laughing at how ineffectual and misguided they were back when the term was commonly used. This cannot be dismissed by your whataboutism.

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The impacts of far right extremism seeking to cancel the left for fear of communist takeover lead to McCarthyism, It was never an action of the left that got out of hand, it was the far right. We see the same process in the USA today - SJWs were mockable college students, the next threat was those opposed to your far right and white supremacist terrorist being tagged as anti-fascist fascist terrorists. This has led to BLM is a communist takeover threat and the Democrats are captives of this. Add trump's covid stuff-up and you get the president encouraging youth to shoot at protestors and far right militias organising insurrection to liberate States - but you think we need to be scared of people mocked and tagged as SJWs, up to a decade ago.

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Reply #121 posted 10/28/20 5:27am

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Antifa is a anti facist as China is a People's Republic...seems some have fallen for a marketing ploy. Whatanouism to the extreme.
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Reply #122 posted 10/28/20 6:07am

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IanRG said:

Margot said:

So many folks have lost a sense of nuance and tolerance. Both sides are extreme.

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Agreed.

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And the way address this is to stop tagging and mocking people because they come from the other side or group and, instead seek to find: The places we agree, The places we can agree to compromise or agree to disagee - and thereby limit the arguments to just the relatively few key areas where people cannot in good faith cross that line with honesty and integrity.

The thing to do is stop telling people what to talk about. And people should stop inserting themselves in places/conversation/spaces that offended them. It's that simple otherwise it is censorship and then we should make lists of acceptible discussion (at the same time ever member would need to list their nation, political affiliation and religious/non religious beliefs to determine if the list of 'acceptable / unacceptable' topics are because of the person nationality, political affiliation or religious/non religious beliefs. This is a dangerous place, because there is a reason 'religious -especially your Catholic/christian' belief is not discussed and rarely tolerated. They get flamed trolled and derailed for shut down. A woman in France was beheaded for a particular reason. But people are alowed to mock your religion and God, there are threads 20 pages deep of anti-Christian mocking. People are offended by sex, talk of sex, there were org members who felt so offended and would try to have threads shut down. Just over a year ago maybe we had a thread on suicide, omg there was one member who was so triggered that we would talk about suicide and called us all kinds of name and assualted the thread to try to get it shut down. The only people making personal attacks are the one that don't like the thread, that is not about them. gf
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FYI, on the Org we cannot tag anyone. So people consciously choose to click on a thread. That they don't like/like.

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This is a good one. He was creative here

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Reply #123 posted 10/28/20 6:17am

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March 28, 2016

|9:50 am

Rod Dreher

Social psychologist Jonathan Haidt breaks down an important 2014 study indicating that the Social Justice Warrior phenomenon on campus is not a trend, but instead marks a deep cultural shift. The paper is not by Haidt, but it's long, so he summarizes it for his readers. Excerpts (all boldface in Haidt's original):
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I just read the most extraordinary paper by two sociologists — Bradley Campbell and Jason Manning — explaining why concerns about microaggressions have erupted on many American college campuses in just the past few years. In brief: We're beginning a second transition of moral cultures. The first major transition happened in the 18th and 19th centuries when most Western societies moved away from cultures of honor (where people must earn honor and must therefore avenge insults on their own) to cultures of dignity in which people are assumed to have dignity and don't need to earn it. They foreswear violence, turn to courts or administrative bodies to respond to major transgressions, and for minor transgressions they either ignore them or attempt to resolve them by social means. There's no more dueling.


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Campbell and Manning describe how this culture of dignity is now giving way to a new culture of victimhood in which people are encouraged to respond to even the slightest unintentional offense, as in an honor culture. But they must not obtain redress on their own; they must appeal for help to powerful others or administrative bodies, to whom they must make the case that they have been victimized. It is the very presence of such administrative bodies, within a culture that is highly egalitarian and diverse (i.e., many college campuses) that gives rise to intense efforts to identify oneself as a fragile and aggrieved victim. This is why we have seen the recent explosion of concerns about microaggressions, combined with demands for trigger warnings and safe spaces, that Greg Lukianoff and I wrote about in The Coddling of the American Mind.

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I want to make the ideas in the article widely available. It's a fairly long article, so I provide below an outline of its main sections with extensive quotations from each section. My hope is that you can read the text below and get 80% of the value of the article in just 7 minutes.

In what follows, all text is copied and pasted directly from the published article, [except for comments from me, which are in brackets.] I have also bolded the lines that are most important for understanding the phenomena described in The Coddling of the American Mind.


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The key idea is that the new moral culture of victimhood fosters "moral dependence" and an atrophying of the ability to handle small interpersonal matters on one's own. At the same time that it weakens individuals, it creates a society of constant and intense moral conflict as people compete for status as victims or as defenders of victims...

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Reply #124 posted 10/28/20 6:21am

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Does it ever accomplish anything when any side goes to a political rally to make a scene?
What is ever accomplished?

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Reply #125 posted 10/28/20 11:51am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

IanRG said:

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Agreed.

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And the way address this is to stop tagging and mocking people because they come from the other side or group and, instead seek to find: The places we agree, The places we can agree to compromise or agree to disagee - and thereby limit the arguments to just the relatively few key areas where people cannot in good faith cross that line with honesty and integrity.

The thing to do is stop telling people what to talk about. And people should stop inserting themselves in places/conversation/spaces that offended them. It's that simple otherwise it is censorship and then we should make lists of acceptible discussion (at the same time ever member would need to list their nation, political affiliation and religious/non religious beliefs to determine if the list of 'acceptable / unacceptable' topics are because of the person nationality, political affiliation or religious/non religious beliefs. This is a dangerous place, because there is a reason 'religious -especially your Catholic/christian' belief is not discussed and rarely tolerated. They get flamed trolled and derailed for shut down. A woman in France was beheaded for a particular reason. But people are alowed to mock your religion and God, there are threads 20 pages deep of anti-Christian mocking. People are offended by sex, talk of sex, there were org members who felt so offended and would try to have threads shut down. Just over a year ago maybe we had a thread on suicide, omg there was one member who was so triggered that we would talk about suicide and called us all kinds of name and assualted the thread to try to get it shut down. The only people making personal attacks are the one that don't like the thread, that is not about them. gf
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FYI, on the Org we cannot tag anyone. So people consciously choose to click on a thread. That they don't like/like.

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Do you notice that after this sentence all you are doing is telling people what to talk about?

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In summary what you are saying is:

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- Don't come into a conversation that deliberately mocks people from the other side of politics for fun to express an alternate view because doing that is censorship.

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- We censor all discussions about "R" in "P&R" because others will mock this or cut your head off.

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- But be appalled that others have called for censorship of other discussions such as about sex or suicide.

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This thread is about poking fun at others by attacking others for their poliitcal beliefs and how they used to action them. Everyone who has expressed a different view has been personally attacked and criticised in this thread.

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People are tagged by slogans here and everywhere - people were tagged SJWs here by others back when this was a thing. This was to attack the person and shut them down rather than addressing what they said. I have just been tagged as rarely able to be tolerated because I am Catholic. Tagging is not a reference to the capabilities some sites have to add a tag word. It is a reference to the labels others place on people they disagree with. In the case of tagging someone as a SJW, it was a method of seeking to discredit them personally rather than addressing the issues they raised. A person is tagged as fascist if they support the goals of Antifa so the tagger does not have to address the far more real concerns about the domestic terrorism and attempted insurgencies by the far right and white supremacists, many of whom are actual neo-nazi fascists. A person is tagged as a communist or being duped by communists if they express support for BLM seeking to reduce systemic racist violence in the police and criminal justice system. The org has no tagging capability but people use tags all the time.

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Reply #126 posted 10/28/20 12:07pm

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IanRG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The thing to do is stop telling people what to talk about. And people should stop inserting themselves in places/conversation/spaces that offended them. It's that simple otherwise it is censorship and then we should make lists of acceptible discussion (at the same time ever member would need to list their nation, political affiliation and religious/non religious beliefs to determine if the list of 'acceptable / unacceptable' topics are because of the person nationality, political affiliation or religious/non religious beliefs. This is a dangerous place, because there is a reason 'religious -especially your Catholic/christian' belief is not discussed and rarely tolerated. They get flamed trolled and derailed for shut down. A woman in France was beheaded for a particular reason. But people are alowed to mock your religion and God, there are threads 20 pages deep of anti-Christian mocking. People are offended by sex, talk of sex, there were org members who felt so offended and would try to have threads shut down. Just over a year ago maybe we had a thread on suicide, omg there was one member who was so triggered that we would talk about suicide and called us all kinds of name and assualted the thread to try to get it shut down. The only people making personal attacks are the one that don't like the thread, that is not about them. gf
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FYI, on the Org we cannot tag anyone. So people consciously choose to click on a thread. That they don't like/like.

.

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Do you notice that after this sentence all you are doing is telling people what to talk about?

.

In summary what you are saying is:

.

- Don't come into a conversation that deliberately mocks people from the other side of politics for fun to express an alternate view because doing that is censorship.

.

- We censor all discussions about "R" in "P&R" because others will mock this or cut your head off.

.

- But be appalled that others have called for censorship of other discussions such as about sex or suicide.

.

This thread is about poking fun at others by attacking others for their poliitcal beliefs and how they used to action them. Everyone who has expressed a different view has been personally attacked and criticised in this thread.

.

People are tagged by slogans here and everywhere - people were tagged SJWs here by others back when this was a thing. This was to attack the person and shut them down rather than addressing what they said. I have just been tagged as rarely able to be tolerated because I am Catholic. Tagging is not a reference to the capabilities some sites have to add a tag word. It is a reference to the labels others place on people they disagree with. In the case of tagging someone as a SJW, it was a method of seeking to discredit them personally rather than addressing the issues they raised. A person is tagged as fascist if they support the goals of Antifa so the tagger does not have to address the far more real concerns about the domestic terrorism and attempted insurgencies by the far right and white supremacists, many of whom are actual neo-nazi fascists. A person is tagged as a communist or being duped by communists if they express support for BLM seeking to reduce systemic racist violence in the police and criminal justice system. The org has no tagging capability but people use tags all the time.



What? No I'm not Ian, I don't care about what people do/do not talk about. I've never tried to get a thread shut down because I didn't like/agree with it. If the ORG hasn't outlined what people can/cannot talk about why would you or anyone have a problem with topics(outside of garbage posts and spam or certain attacks on Prince or his family)

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'Tagged'? No one use that outside of FB to get someones attention.

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People are poking fun and mocking president trump and other politicians and celebrities (BY NAME) you don't say anything about that. And this thread never singled anyone out, it's not able any individual person. So there is no reason to be triggerd. I mean it's just not sensible.
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I was the one directly attacked, and I have the right to defend myself. And as far as I can see I never personally attacked anyones character. I don't know if someone is a SJW, and defined myself as one when it came down to working to get POT legalized in NY. You never addressed anyone who singled me out from the start. Nor the 'herp' that felt attacking someones spouse was appropriate which it's not, did you say anything about? And you won't. And I don't need you to. The first reply was a direct attack on me. And then a bunch of swarming trolls(one who just joined the org and never posted except to attack me as an individual) swooped in to address ME not the topic. And I have every damn right to respond to how people are reacting. Their personal attacks are clear that they have personal issues. I never replied with the same, which if I did they would need safe rubber rooms to retreat to with soft deco lights.
So it seems there is a line drawn in the sand. Well there IS a line drawn in the sand.
No one is paying my mortage, bills, feeding me, etc etc my life means nothing to them, and I don't care.

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"humanist response to be against what Freaky listed because they are seeking to follow and live the Words of God." you do know everyone isn't doing this right? you do know everyone isn't a christian or believe in god(s) right?

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If you don't like the discussion and feel you need to ascribe motive to the OP(of any thread) who is the one making it personal? It's clear you have an opinion about the subject. That's ok. But this motive shit is tired. You don't know my heart mind or intentions. I wasn't talking to you or anyone triggered as if I was. hundreds of threads on the org. No one is being 'tagged' on the org. People choose to click on a thread read it and react or not. Simple as that. Or we censor and say 'we cannot have this topic'. And I'll go back to what I said before, lets make a list of acceptable topics and what's not acceptable. My opening post is 100% exactly what I said it was about.

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Reply #127 posted 10/28/20 12:59pm

IanRG

OldFriends4Sale said:

IanRG said:

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Do you notice that after this sentence all you are doing is telling people what to talk about?

.

In summary what you are saying is:

.

- Don't come into a conversation that deliberately mocks people from the other side of politics for fun to express an alternate view because doing that is censorship.

.

- We censor all discussions about "R" in "P&R" because others will mock this or cut your head off.

.

- But be appalled that others have called for censorship of other discussions such as about sex or suicide.

.

This thread is about poking fun at others by attacking others for their poliitcal beliefs and how they used to action them. Everyone who has expressed a different view has been personally attacked and criticised in this thread.

.

People are tagged by slogans here and everywhere - people were tagged SJWs here by others back when this was a thing. This was to attack the person and shut them down rather than addressing what they said. I have just been tagged as rarely able to be tolerated because I am Catholic. Tagging is not a reference to the capabilities some sites have to add a tag word. It is a reference to the labels others place on people they disagree with. In the case of tagging someone as a SJW, it was a method of seeking to discredit them personally rather than addressing the issues they raised. A person is tagged as fascist if they support the goals of Antifa so the tagger does not have to address the far more real concerns about the domestic terrorism and attempted insurgencies by the far right and white supremacists, many of whom are actual neo-nazi fascists. A person is tagged as a communist or being duped by communists if they express support for BLM seeking to reduce systemic racist violence in the police and criminal justice system. The org has no tagging capability but people use tags all the time.



What? No I'm not Ian, I don't care about what people do/do not talk about. I've never tried to get a thread shut down because I didn't like/agree with it. If the ORG hasn't outlined what people can/cannot talk about why would you or anyone have a problem with topics(outside of garbage posts and spam or certain attacks on Prince or his family)

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'Tagged'? No one use that outside of FB to get someones attention.

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People are poking fun and mocking president trump and other politicians and celebrities (BY NAME) you don't say anything about that. And this thread never singled anyone out, it's not able any individual person. So there is no reason to be triggerd. I mean it's just not sensible.
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I was the one directly attacked, and I have the right to defend myself. And as far as I can see I never personally attacked anyones character. I don't know if someone is a SJW, and defined myself as one when it came down to working to get POT legalized in NY. You never addressed anyone who singled me out from the start. Nor the 'herp' that felt attacking someones spouse was appropriate which it's not, did you say anything about? And you won't. And I don't need you to. The first reply was a direct attack on me. And then a bunch of swarming trolls(one who just joined the org and never posted except to attack me as an individual) swooped in to address ME not the topic. And I have every damn right to respond to how people are reacting. Their personal attacks are clear that they have personal issues. I never replied with the same, which if I did they would need safe rubber rooms to retreat to with soft deco lights.
So it seems there is a line drawn in the sand. Well there IS a line drawn in the sand.
No one is paying my mortage, bills, feeding me, etc etc my life means nothing to them, and I don't care.

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"humanist response to be against what Freaky listed because they are seeking to follow and live the Words of God." you do know everyone isn't doing this right? you do know everyone isn't a christian or believe in god(s) right?

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If you don't like the discussion and feel you need to ascribe motive to the OP(of any thread) who is the one making it personal? It's clear you have an opinion about the subject. That's ok. But this motive shit is tired. You don't know my heart mind or intentions. I wasn't talking to you or anyone triggered as if I was. hundreds of threads on the org. No one is being 'tagged' on the org. People choose to click on a thread read it and react or not. Simple as that. Or we censor and say 'we cannot have this topic'. And I'll go back to what I said before, lets make a list of acceptable topics and what's not acceptable. My opening post is 100% exactly what I said it was about.

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https://impactministries....-offended/

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In regards to people taking offense and a list of topics, a much shorter reply could be "And the way address this is to stop tagging and mocking people because they come from the other side or group and, instead seek to find: The places we agree, The places we can agree to compromise or agree to disagee - and thereby limit the arguments to just the relatively few key areas where people cannot in good faith cross that line with honesty and integrity."

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This is the quote from me that triggered the last couple of diatribes. All we need is more of a focus on finding common ground.

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In regards to any offense you have taken for me responding to Freaky bringing the Christian religion in to this and the judgement you have made about what you think I said: I already addressed that not everyone does it right and not everyone is Christian. For the latter I said:

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"Many people are interested in social justice and thereby either deliberately seek to follow the Word of God through the Beatitudes or inadvertently through being a good person and are not Catholics or may not even know that these blessing for positive humanist actions are in the Bible. Against this, there are many of the worst possible acts by people in the Old Testament - seeking to emulate people in the Old Testament instead of Jesus is not something I would preach at anyone.

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There is no point in continuing this discussion."

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Reply #128 posted 10/28/20 1:12pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Antifa is a anti facist as China is a People's Republic...seems some have fallen for a marketing ploy. Whatanouism to the extreme.

And yet who keeps getting arrested for violence against police, arson, etc? An ideology? No. Right wing extremists with Trump diatribes as their mottos.

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Reply #129 posted 10/28/20 1:14pm

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IanRG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The thing to do is stop telling people what to talk about. And people should stop inserting themselves in places/conversation/spaces that offended them. It's that simple otherwise it is censorship and then we should make lists of acceptible discussion (at the same time ever member would need to list their nation, political affiliation and religious/non religious beliefs to determine if the list of 'acceptable / unacceptable' topics are because of the person nationality, political affiliation or religious/non religious beliefs. This is a dangerous place, because there is a reason 'religious -especially your Catholic/christian' belief is not discussed and rarely tolerated. They get flamed trolled and derailed for shut down. A woman in France was beheaded for a particular reason. But people are alowed to mock your religion and God, there are threads 20 pages deep of anti-Christian mocking. People are offended by sex, talk of sex, there were org members who felt so offended and would try to have threads shut down. Just over a year ago maybe we had a thread on suicide, omg there was one member who was so triggered that we would talk about suicide and called us all kinds of name and assualted the thread to try to get it shut down. The only people making personal attacks are the one that don't like the thread, that is not about them. gf
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FYI, on the Org we cannot tag anyone. So people consciously choose to click on a thread. That they don't like/like.

.

.

Do you notice that after this sentence all you are doing is telling people what to talk about?

.

In summary what you are saying is:

.

- Don't come into a conversation that deliberately mocks people from the other side of politics for fun to express an alternate view because doing that is censorship.

.

- We censor all discussions about "R" in "P&R" because others will mock this or cut your head off.

.

- But be appalled that others have called for censorship of other discussions such as about sex or suicide.

.

This thread is about poking fun at others by attacking others for their poliitcal beliefs and how they used to action them. Everyone who has expressed a different view has been personally attacked and criticised in this thread.

.

People are tagged by slogans here and everywhere - people were tagged SJWs here by others back when this was a thing. This was to attack the person and shut them down rather than addressing what they said. I have just been tagged as rarely able to be tolerated because I am Catholic. Tagging is not a reference to the capabilities some sites have to add a tag word. It is a reference to the labels others place on people they disagree with. In the case of tagging someone as a SJW, it was a method of seeking to discredit them personally rather than addressing the issues they raised. A person is tagged as fascist if they support the goals of Antifa so the tagger does not have to address the far more real concerns about the domestic terrorism and attempted insurgencies by the far right and white supremacists, many of whom are actual neo-nazi fascists. A person is tagged as a communist or being duped by communists if they express support for BLM seeking to reduce systemic racist violence in the police and criminal justice system. The org has no tagging capability but people use tags all the time.

Thank you!

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Reply #130 posted 10/28/20 3:19pm

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Well, why don't you just sit back then, and let everyone else try to change our Nation. If MLK, John Lewis, etc would have done that, the people of color wouldn't even have the right to vote. If you are going to make a difference then step up, if you are just going to sit back and complain about people who are trying to make a difference, then step OUT, and stop complaining about the ones who are trying to make difference.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Does it ever accomplish anything when any side goes to a political rally to make a scene?
What is ever accomplished?

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If I said/specified RIGHT WING/TRUMP SUPPORTER/REPUBLICAN SJW, none of this trolling would have happened...

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The Great Awokening: The Puritan Roots of the Social Justice Warrior

Springtime for Snowflakes: “Social Justice” and Its Postmodern Parentage

By Michael Rectenwald

Publisher: New English Review Press

Pages: 176

Price: $19.99

Review Author: Jason M. Morgan

Jason M. Morgan teaches history, language, and philosophy at Reitaku University in Japan.

American philosopher Peter Redpath likes to remind his students that “the formal object of the human intellect is truth.” We are made to know what is true; this is why we were given minds and souls. The end-all, be-all truth is God, and all the little truths point inexorably to Him.

As Redpath would be the first to admit, this idea is hardly his own invention. St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Augustine of Hippo, and Aristotle are just three of many thinkers who have articulated what has been generally obvious to men of every age and culture: The world is not an illusion, and our

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Reply #133 posted 10/28/20 3:37pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

If I said/specified RIGHT WING/TRUMP SUPPORTER/REPUBLICAN SJW, none of this trolling would have happened...

WTF is trolling? If you didn't want a discussion, then why start a thread about it?

If an opinion disagree's with a poster, that's considered trolling?

And why is your statement above, so light? What is that supposed to mean?

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Reply #134 posted 10/28/20 3:40pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Antifa is a anti facist as China is a People's Republic...seems some have fallen for a marketing ploy. Whatanouism to the extreme.

And yet who keeps getting arrested for violence against police, arson, etc? An ideology? No. Right wing extremists with Trump diatribes as their mottos.

dozens if not hundreds of lefties have been arrested and the locals declined charges.

If you do not defended some speech you abhor then you do NOT support free speech.
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Reply #135 posted 10/28/20 3:42pm

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

If I said/specified RIGHT WING/TRUMP SUPPORTER/REPUBLICAN SJW, none of this trolling would have happened...

WTF is trolling? If you didn't want a discussion, then why start a thread about it?

If an opinion disagree's with a poster, that's considered trolling?

And why is your statement above, so light? What is that supposed to mean?


I'm like a NAZI remember ?- I'm not having a discussion with someone who will refer to me that way

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Reply #136 posted 10/28/20 3:43pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

WTF is trolling? If you didn't want a discussion, then why start a thread about it?

If an opinion disagree's with a poster, that's considered trolling?

And why is your statement above, so light? What is that supposed to mean?


I'm like a NAZI remember ?- I'm not having a discussion with someone who will refer to me that way

Huh?

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Reply #137 posted 10/28/20 4:56pm

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And yet, here you are, offended. lol

OldFriends4Sale said:

If I said/specified RIGHT WING/TRUMP SUPPORTER/REPUBLICAN SJW, none of this trolling would have happened...

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Reply #138 posted 10/28/20 5:12pm

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"What difference does it make?....we're still a group, Right?..."

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Reply #139 posted 10/28/20 5:33pm

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From what I can tell, this forum is about people with opposing political beliefs talking (yelling) past each other. (ad nauseum)

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Reply #140 posted 10/28/20 5:44pm

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Margot said:

From what I can tell, this forum is about people with opposing political beliefs talking (yelling) past each other. (ad nauseum)

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Yes, so not that different from other opinion forums on politics and musical preferences.

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Reply #141 posted 10/28/20 6:10pm

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Margot said:

From what I can tell, this forum is about people with opposing political beliefs talking (yelling) past each other. (ad nauseum)

Lines are drawn in this forum, with some people. Others take it as it is.
ToeJam is a member that he and I are like oil and water on religion. But in PMM we are Purple Brothers. Others, if they disagree with you in this forum, you are the enemy forevermore. Nazi even.

When they don't like a topic they will try to get it shut down. It's what it is.

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Reply #142 posted 10/28/20 6:16pm

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I don't know you from Adam, but when you equate me to a nazi,

you are no longer in my space. That's not offense.

PennyPurple said:

And yet, here you are, offended. lol

OldFriends4Sale said:

If I said/specified RIGHT WING/TRUMP SUPPORTER/REPUBLICAN SJW, none of this trolling would have happened...

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Reply #143 posted 10/28/20 6:20pm

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IanRG said:

Margot said:

From what I can tell, this forum is about people with opposing political beliefs talking (yelling) past each other. (ad nauseum)

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Yes, so not that different from other opinion forums on politics and musical preferences.

The vitriol with which people communicate is what turns me off.

It's so harsh and unforgiving.

There are a few kind souls, but the majority are not.

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Reply #144 posted 10/28/20 6:22pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't know you from Adam, but when you equate me to a nazi,

you are no longer in my space. That's not offense.

PennyPurple said:

And yet, here you are, offended. lol

And yet you are the one who posted this and now is butt hurt over it.

Don't post something to get people riled up, and not expect nobody to comment on it.


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Reply #145 posted 10/28/20 6:25pm

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It wasn't directed at you, so there was no reason for you to take it personally and say I am that.

I'm not butthurt at all, that seems to be what you were since you started posting. No one was talking to YOU. So why get hurt and angry and lash out at a member for something that was not about you or anyone one the org... This is no different from when you would try to have 'book discussions' and people come in attack you or try to derail the thread. They hated Mayte, some didn't like you, so they came after it. Oh I remember all the orgnotes you sent me to help... lets just keep that on the real.
So why are you trying to communicate? Not one post by you was about the actual topic. All you did was cry and get upset at the topic(censor) so let it go. 100+ open threads of topic

A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't know you from Adam, but when you equate me to a nazi,

you are no longer in my space. That's not offense.

And yet you are the one who posted this and now is butt hurt over it.

Don't post something to get people riled up, and not expect nobody to comment on it.


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Reply #146 posted 10/28/20 6:28pm

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Margot said:

IanRG said:

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Yes, so not that different from other opinion forums on politics and musical preferences.

The vitriol with which people communicate is what turns me off.

It's so harsh and unforgiving.

There are a few kind souls, but the majority are not.

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I agree. We can do better as there is common ground in most issues and the areas of disagreement are small. However, the divide between people on the "big issues" will be no different from anywhere else - it is a SOTT and has been for a long time.

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I suggest you don't say you like rap or Hit n Run Phase 1 on PM&M.

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Reply #147 posted 10/28/20 6:35pm

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OMG. rolleyes



lol



How dare I send an orgnote to a MOD, to help keep a book thread on topic. Especially when I had to get PERMISSION to even start a book thread.


Shame on me. reading falloff



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Reply #148 posted 10/28/20 8:15pm

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The same bullying and over-reacting was going on in this thread 6 months ago...same reactions, different topics.

Personally, I think this forum should be shut down completely. It's used to form alliances and bully.

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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/social-justice-warrior

social justice warrior

[ soh-shuhl juhs-tis wawr-ee-er, wor‐ ]

noun

Disparaging. a contemptuous term for a person who advocates a progressive orthodoxy, often on the internet, especially involving the treatment of ethnic, racial, gender, or gender-identity minorities. Abbreviation: SJW

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