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Reply #60 posted 10/25/20 11:19am

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"social justice warrior" such an oxymoronic and meaningless millenial catchphrase...along with words like "toxic" and "bullying"
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Reply #61 posted 10/25/20 11:21am

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RJOrion said:

"social justice warrior" such an oxymoronic and meaningless millenial catchphrase...along with words like "toxic" and "bullying"


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Reply #62 posted 10/25/20 11:33am

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RJOrion said:


"social justice warrior" such an oxymoronic and meaningless millenial catchphrase...along with words like "toxic" and "bullying"



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๐Ÿ˜Ž Ive been banned a couple times myself
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Reply #63 posted 10/25/20 11:37am

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BCorgman said:

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๐Ÿ˜Ž Ive been banned a couple times myself


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RJOrion said:

"social justice warrior" such an oxymoronic and meaningless millenial catchphrase...along with words like "toxic" and "bullying"

Exactly

This made a lot of sense

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Reply #65 posted 10/25/20 11:59am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

herpes always comes back....

Always, and I've seen pictures, herpes is not a blessing

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It's very sad, and very telling that people see this forum and thread as a place to be angry and fight and assault people based on nothing concerning them.

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Reply #66 posted 10/25/20 12:00pm

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LOL and you just needed to take it lol someone who 'just joined the org' allegedly in September and never posted until the BAIT post?? BeTa!! Hey you brought the cooties here, not me.
Triggered lol get a sense of humor. And it's not bait, youre just offended. You did not exist to me until you posted here. You exposed yourself though fyi

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Reply #67 posted 10/25/20 12:56pm

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herpes said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

herpes always comes back....

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she?

wait how did you know?

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Reply #68 posted 10/26/20 7:30am

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Social justice comes straight from the old Testement. God is the first sjw.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #69 posted 10/26/20 8:40am

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I'm offended by the banality of this thread.

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In all seriousness though; whether someone is a SJA or a SJW is all up to one's perception. If you listen to Fox News or if you listen to CNN, you're going to arrive a different conclusions.

I would like to create a NEW moniker; PAW (Progressive Action Warrior). Because at the end of the day, every decent humanitarian advancement in our society (end of religious persecution, end of Slavery, end of Child Labor, end of Segregation, end of LGBT persecution, etc, etc) has been a result of PROGRESSIVE actions by progressive warriors.

Today we have a whole squad of khaki-wearing, tiki-torch -lighting, red-cap-wearing goons who consider progressive actions to be "evil" or "ungodly" and seem more than happy to REGRESS to a time when religious persecution, segregation, etc. is "American Again".

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As a Christian I aim to be a truth warrior. Do what the Doctors do, First, do no harm! No harm. Do not bomb innocents, help the poor, don't harm immigrants. Don't invade countries, follow international law, follow social norms. Don't weaponize Capitalism to hurt people.

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Sasha Baron Cohen, SJW gangsta rap:

https://www.youtube.com/w...yGJzMhcRSk

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #72 posted 10/26/20 10:07am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Sasha Baron Cohen, SJW gangsta rap:

https://www.youtube.com/w...yGJzMhcRSk

eek biggrin smile you better put a disclaimer on this one kiddo, that's going to offended the trolls watching

That was GOOD lol

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Reply #73 posted 10/26/20 12:28pm

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As a Christian I aim to be a truth warrior. Do what the Doctors do, First, do no harm! No harm. Do not bomb innocents, help the poor, don't harm immigrants. Don't invade countries, follow international law, follow social norms. Don't weaponize Capitalism to hurt people.

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Exactly. As Christians it is extremely important that we stand against those who support these acts even if all they can do is dredge up a 2010 term from the far right so they can mock those of us seeking to follow Christ's teaching, especially in the Beatitudes.

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Reply #74 posted 10/26/20 1:33pm

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Today we have a whole squad of khaki-wearing, tiki-torch -lighting, red-cap-wearing goons who consider progressive actions to be "evil" or "ungodly" and seem more than happy to REGRESS to a time when religious persecution, segregation, etc. is "American Again".

What do you expect from folks whose parents were brother & sister?

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2freaky4church1 said:

As a Christian I aim to be a truth warrior. Do what the Doctors do, First, do no harm! No harm. Do not bomb innocents, help the poor, don't harm immigrants. Don't invade countries, follow international law, follow social norms. Don't weaponize Capitalism to hurt people.

That is true, BUT what truth is being defended. As a 'Christian' the scriptures say "Let GOD's word be truth, and let ever MAN be a liar" Too often people make situational decisions based on 'their truth' not 'God's truth' (meaning those who are Christian) "There is a way that seems right, to man, but the end is destruction..." So Humanism and 'Christian living' are not synonymous.

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This line of thought is a good discussion though. One I don't think we could have on the Org.

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uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

Today we have a whole squad of khaki-wearing, tiki-torch -lighting, red-cap-wearing goons who consider progressive actions to be "evil" or "ungodly" and seem more than happy to REGRESS to a time when religious persecution, segregation, etc. is "American Again".

What do you expect from folks whose parents were brother & sister?

lol true, there is more of that than a lot of families want to realize
Now THAT is a discussion. Families have a lot of secrets

Not to mention most "royal" were too from Egypt to Rome to the Aztecs etc

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Reply #78 posted 10/26/20 4:15pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

As a Christian I aim to be a truth warrior. Do what the Doctors do, First, do no harm! No harm. Do not bomb innocents, help the poor, don't harm immigrants. Don't invade countries, follow international law, follow social norms. Don't weaponize Capitalism to hurt people.

That is true, BUT what truth is being defended. As a 'Christian' the scriptures say "Let GOD's word be truth, and let ever MAN be a liar" Too often people make situational decisions based on 'their truth' not 'God's truth' (meaning those who are Christian) "There is a way that seems right, to man, but the end is destruction..." So Humanism and 'Christian living' are not synonymous.

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This line of thought is a good discussion though. One I don't think we could have on the Org.

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I do not see people seeking to stop others mocking and trying to trigger them, to seek to stop bombing innocents, to seek to help the poor, to seek to do no harm to innocents, etc. as something not worth defending.

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This section of the Bible is about whether the faithfulness or otherwise of people entrusted with God's teachings and the implications on this Word should be judged by us.

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"What if some [of these people] were unfaithful? Will their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Although everyone is a liar [or may be a liar], let God be proved true, as it is written, 'So that you may be justified in your words, and prevail in your judging'. But if our injustice serves to confirm the justice of God, what should we say? That God is unjust? ... by no means".

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So even if everyone is a liar, God's word is true. When people properly judge God's word to be true in what God taught us in the Beatitudes and alike, then there is no error in a humanist response to be against what Freaky listed because they are seeking to follow and live the Words of God. When people seek to mock the methods of people seeking to follow the Words of God or at least act consistent with them, then this judgement on people acting in line with God's word is false judgement.

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IanRG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That is true, BUT what truth is being defended. As a 'Christian' the scriptures say "Let GOD's word be truth, and let ever MAN be a liar" Too often people make situational decisions based on 'their truth' not 'God's truth' (meaning those who are Christian) "There is a way that seems right, to man, but the end is destruction..." So Humanism and 'Christian living' are not synonymous.

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This line of thought is a good discussion though. One I don't think we could have on the Org.

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I do not see people seeking to stop others mocking and trying to trigger them, to seek to stop bombing innocents, to seek to help the poor, to seek to do no harm to innocents, etc. as something not worth defending.

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This section of the Bible is about whether the faithfulness or otherwise of people entrusted with God's teachings and the implications on this Word should be judged by us.

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"What if some [of these people] were unfaithful? Will their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Although everyone is a liar [or may be a liar], let God be proved true, as it is written, 'So that you may be justified in your words, and prevail in your judging'. But if our injustice serves to confirm the justice of God, what should we say? That God is unjust? ... by no means".

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So even if everyone is a liar, God's word is true. When people properly judge God's word to be true in what God taught us in the Beatitudes and alike, then there is no error in a humanist response to be against what Freaky listed because they are seeking to follow and live the Words of God. When people seek to mock the methods of people seeking to follow the Words of God or at least act consistent with them, then this judgement on people acting in line with God's word is false judgement.

How do you know it isn't happening? We don't even see each other(general idea of cyberspace interactions).

That section is about people having their own ways/ideas and morality vs God

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God still has the last word on what is or isn't

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Yeah I wish I could go there, but cannot ...

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Reply #80 posted 10/26/20 4:51pm

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IanRG said:

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I do not see people seeking to stop others mocking and trying to trigger them, to seek to stop bombing innocents, to seek to help the poor, to seek to do no harm to innocents, etc. as something not worth defending.

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This section of the Bible is about whether the faithfulness or otherwise of people entrusted with God's teachings and the implications on this Word should be judged by us.

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"What if some [of these people] were unfaithful? Will their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Although everyone is a liar [or may be a liar], let God be proved true, as it is written, 'So that you may be justified in your words, and prevail in your judging'. But if our injustice serves to confirm the justice of God, what should we say? That God is unjust? ... by no means".

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So even if everyone is a liar, God's word is true. When people properly judge God's word to be true in what God taught us in the Beatitudes and alike, then there is no error in a humanist response to be against what Freaky listed because they are seeking to follow and live the Words of God. When people seek to mock the methods of people seeking to follow the Words of God or at least act consistent with them, then this judgement on people acting in line with God's word is false judgement.

How do you know it isn't happening? We don't even see each other(general idea of cyberspace interactions)

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Yeah I wish I could go there, but cannot ...

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God still has the last word on what is or isn't

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I know people can seek to mock others and trigger others and many times those others used to be flagged as SJWs. Most of these people were just seeking to do right and when this was consistent with helping the poor in spirit, helping those who mourn, those who are meek, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, who are merciful, the pure of heart, those seeking to make peace, or seek to stop persecution and lies, then, yes, I believe God's last and judgement will take this into consideration.

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I also believe God's last word and judgement will consider those who sought to mock and cancel those seeking social justice in line with the Beatitudes.

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How has the Org fallen so far that mocking is Ok but discussion is not?

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IanRG said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

How do you know it isn't happening? We don't even see each other(general idea of cyberspace interactions)

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Yeah I wish I could go there, but cannot ...

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God still has the last word on what is or isn't

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I know people can seek to mock others and trigger others and many times those others used to be flagged as SJWs. Most of these people were just seeking to do right and when this was consistent with helping the poor in spirit, helping those who mourn, those who are meek, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, who are merciful, the pure of heart, those seeking to make peace, or seek to stop persecution and lies, then, yes, I believe God's last and judgement will take this into consideration.

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I also believe God's last word and judgement will consider those who sought to mock and cancel those seeking social justice in line with the Beatitudes.

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How has the Org fallen so far that mocking is Ok but discussion is not?

Hasn't it always been? the Org was never 'a religious center' thank GAWD lol 'fallen'? from what?
P&R from what I heard used to be a place that people didn't take so seriously, didn't draw such vitrol. A youtube post by a general person(not a Christian that I know of) can causes such anomosity and righteous indignation. Do P&R orgmember laugh, ...seems people come here to fight and disagree. Where has it gone that certain topics cannot be discussed without people trying to shut them down because of how the topic makes them 'feel'. Why not pass it over, why click on it. I've never clicked on a thread I didn't care for or disagreed with(in all of cyberworld) not time for all that. I mean anger rests in the bossom of fools. All the threads to click on and people who don't even post on the org click on the one that triggers them(something I and others have seen for a while)

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If these videos and memes are 'mocking' and wrong and sinful. So then is SNL when they make fun of Donald Trump or other political figures or celebrities? And the people(including orgmembers) who enjoy it, as they make 'mock' of 45, Orange turd etc is it wrong? Or only wrong when something triggers their feelings

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laughing at something, having a sense of humor, taking things too serious(or personal) is the issue
my brothers and my cousins 'mock' each other all the time. Been doing it since we were kids. But there is no malice to it, and we usually laugh from the time we walk into the door to the time we leave. And years later still remember those times and crack up.

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Another example. We were in our late teens/early 20s some of us living on our own, some in college etc. My dad put together a picnic. Call his nephews and nieces. And we all just had to show up, he and my mom prepared everything. So my brother and my cousin and her husband were playing SPADES. We talk MAD JUNK when we play spades. Talk about each others mothers, spouses, relationships, soul mind and body. Mind you it's usually my cousin and I on a team vs my brother and her husband(example) so when I'm talking about his(my brother)'s mother I'm talking about mine So we are slamming cards and just going at it. My other cousin wife brought her cousin along. She heard us talking and 'mocking' each other and became offended at what she heard. She literally got angry and got up and wanted someone to drive her home. My dad pulled her aside and said she doesn't understand family, that we do this with no thought or ill intent, that we've been doing that as long as we could play, that we love each other. She sat down. A few years later at my cousins house, she said after being with us she got it, and she was right at the table mocking and talking junk and laughing.

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Last one, with my dad mom and brother, watching Face Off(Travolta/Cage) a scene where the Italian guy asks the other guy "What's wrong with you, You look like you just f---ed your mutha" As SOON AS I got the picture he was painting, my funny bone was off the hook. I'm stabbing a pencil in my leg so I don't laugh. Because at the time what we watched/listened to/how we spoke with my parents was still very chaste. And what he said could have been so offensive. So I'm trying to ignore the scene, and my mom just burst out laugh and then everyone else did. We had to pause it and go back and relive the scene and just rolled at such an offensive statement lol

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I have deep relationships with people who don't take themselves to seriously. We laugh, at ourselves at each other at something that happened. I remember back in the 80s an ice storm. My brother and parents were caught in it heading home. My brother came to the door first and had a LOOK ON HIS FACE. They were all home and safe but that LOOK had my funny bone tringling. My mother and father were right behind my brother and saw it too. After we were all inside and comfy I brought up my brothers look and my parents burst out laughing and then my younger brother, and then my brother who had the LOOK. 30+ years later we can still laugh it. While I know there are people who will be offended literally. That's the thing of life.

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If your conscious is that the youtube post is 'mocking' or that the one 2Freaky posted is 'mocking', who is to judge? You did see that one right? None of those videos were personally directed at anyone on the org.
I doubt the people who made them are going to hell for it.
Being offended doesn't mean the offended is right. Your religious belief doesn't dictate my existance or others, right.
I'm being attacked and judged by some for a video, that was not about anyone (on the org) hmmmm so who has the bad intentions, the ones attacking and judging the individual. The org is no different from any other internet space. What's the saying about being offended by everything one sees on the internet or in cyberspace feeling the need to react/respond/attack/debate...
Should you all go to Youtube and demand Youtube take down or have the author of the video take it down? hmmmm I mean if people are so triggered and angered and offended ya know

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would the Free Love (movement) be a righteous movement. They did have their own SJW for it.
Madonna said the reason she moved away from her SEX/Erotica era was because people were trying to make her a 'sjw/figure' for what she was portraying. Catholic church didn't like her much.

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God's last word and judgement will be on a lot of things, if you believe that stuff. And it's most important on the things you(I) will be judged on, the intent, the heart, things no one knows etc
'Mocking' is not a sin. Mocking is a tool, why/how you use the tool is the wrong. As a gun and sword are not evil. The hearts intent is. And just because a 'work' is deamed 'righteous' by people, doesn't mean it is 'righteous' by God. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. etc

The debate of Abortion is one of those(SJW for Abortion / SJW against Abortion)
Jim Jones to started out trying to do something righteous, he didn't start out the way he ended.
if the author of a sj thing, isn't against your beliefs, let's say the person is atheist or Satanist, even if it seems like a good thing. how would god view it, and how would god through your dogma view you if you supported such sj thing.

So 'My ways are above your ways as high as the heavens from the earth' 'there is none that doeth good no not one...'
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And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

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He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord shall hold them in derision.
From His throne in heaven the Lord laughs and mocks their feeble plans.
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You know how religious conversations go. that's why we don't have them. Religious people/discussions get mocked and attacked and you know it. That's why I doubt anyone making this a religious discussion is going to affect members who don't believe in that stuff. No need to go any deeper.

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Social justice comes straight from the old Testement. God is the first sjw.

U opened a can of worms right there lol a lot of anti-God hate came come out of that one

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Reply #83 posted 10/26/20 6:37pm

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IanRG said:

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I know people can seek to mock others and trigger others and many times those others used to be flagged as SJWs. Most of these people were just seeking to do right and when this was consistent with helping the poor in spirit, helping those who mourn, those who are meek, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, who are merciful, the pure of heart, those seeking to make peace, or seek to stop persecution and lies, then, yes, I believe God's last and judgement will take this into consideration.

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I also believe God's last word and judgement will consider those who sought to mock and cancel those seeking social justice in line with the Beatitudes.

.

How has the Org fallen so far that mocking is Ok but discussion is not?

Hasn't it always been? the Org was never 'a religious center' thank GAWD lol 'fallen'? from what?
P&R from what I heard used to be a place that people didn't take so seriously, didn't draw such vitrol. A youtube post by a general person(not a Christian that I know of) can causes such anomosity and righteous indignation. Do P&R orgmember laugh, ...seems people come here to fight and disagree. Where has it gone that certain topics cannot be discussed without people trying to shut them down because of how the topic makes them 'feel'.

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If these videos and memes are 'mocking' and wrong and sinful. So then is SNL when they make fun of Donald Trump or other political figures? And the people(including orgmembers) who enjoy it, as they make 'mock' of 45, Orange turd etc is it wrong? Or only wrong when something triggers their feelings

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laughing at something, having a sense of humor, taking things too serious(or personal) is the issue
my brothers and my cousins 'mock' each other all the time. Been doing it since we were kids. But there is no malice to it, and we usually laugh from the time we walk into the door to the time we leave. And years later still remember those times and crack up.

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Another example. We were in our late teens/early 20s some of us living on our own, some in college etc. My dad put together a picnic. Call his nephews and nieces. And we all just had to show up, he and my mom prepared everything. So my brother and my cousin and her husband were playing SPADES. We talk MAD JUNK when we play spades. Talk about each others mothers, spouses, relationships, soul mind and body. Mind you it's usually my cousin and I on a team vs my brother and her husband(example) so when I'm talking about his(my brother)'s mother I'm talking about mine So we are slamming cards and just going at it. My other cousin wife brought her cousin along. She heard us talking and 'mocking' each other and became offended at what she heard. She literally got angry and got up and wanted someone to drive her home. My dad pulled her aside and said she doesn't understand family, that we do this with no thought or ill intent, that we've been doing that as long as we could play, that we love each other. She sat down. A few years later at my cousins house, she said after being with us she got it, and she was right at the table mocking and talking junk and laughing.

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If your conscious is that the youtube post is 'mocking' or that the one 2Freaky posted is 'mocking', who is to judge? You did see that one right? None of those videos were personally directed at anyone on the org.
I doubt the people who made them are going to hell for it. Being offended doesn't mean the offended is right. Your religious belief doesn't dictate my existance or others, right.
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I have deep relationships with people who don't take themselves to seriously. We laugh, at ourselves at each other at something that happened. I remember back in the 80s an ice storm. My brother and parents were caught in it heading home. My brother came to the door first and had a LOOK ON HIS FACE. They were all home and safe but that LOOK had my funny bone tringling. My mother and father were right behind my brother and saw it too. After we were all inside and comfy I brought up my brothers look and my parents burst out laughing and then my younger brother, and then my brother who had the LOOK. 30+ years later we can still laugh it. While I know there are people who will be offended literally. That's the thing of life.

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God's last word and judgement will be on a lot of things, if you believe that stuff. And it's most important on the things you(I) will be judged on, the intent, the heart, things no one knows etc
'Mocking' is not a sin. Mocking is a tool, why/how you use the tool is the wrong. As a gun and sword are not evil. The hearts intent is. And just because a 'work' is deamed 'righteous' by people, doesn't mean it is 'righteous' by God. "If a man give his life and has not charity..." etc

The debate of Abortion is one of those(SJW for Abortion / SJW against Abortion)
Jim Jones to started out trying to do something righteous, he didn't start out the way he ended.
if the author of a sj thing, isn't against your beliefs, let's say the person is atheist or Satanist, even if it seems like a good thing. how would god view it, and how would god through your dogma view you if you supported such sj thing.
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And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

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He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord shall hold them in derision.
From His throne in heaven the Lord laughs and mocks their feeble plans.
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You know how religious conversations go. that's why we don't have them. Religious people/discussions get mocked and attacked and you know it. That's why I doubt anyone making this a religious discussion is going to affect members who don't believe in that stuff. No need to go any deeper.

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Although this place was always more aggressive than Housequake, we used to have discussions on religious topics a lot when I first came here. We had people discussing their Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, JWs etc. People could post prayers and comments without the issues the site has allowed build up in P&R and PM&M etc. In Lent I used to post a daily preparation with no trouble. The Void would explain his Buddhism. JWs would explain their beliefs etc.

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Humour is not the issue. The Youtubes are not the issue. It is that the thread is a bait thread and people who have been "triggered" have been mocked here in the Org, not on SNL or in a youtube. The anti-SJW campaign is a far right cancel culture tactic to attack the person and not the issue by labelling the person seeking to make what they saw as a positive change.

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Quoting Old Testament examples of mocking is not a justification to mock people seeking to live as a Christians by following the Beatitudes and rejecting the latest political position of the conservatives by targetting the people using the internet to discuss social justice issues. Family and friend relationships are different from online communities. This needs to be taken into account in how we treat other here.

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Hasn't it always been? the Org was never 'a religious center' thank GAWD lol 'fallen'? from what?
P&R from what I heard used to be a place that people didn't take so seriously, didn't draw such vitrol. A youtube post by a general person(not a Christian that I know of) can causes such anomosity and righteous indignation. Do P&R orgmember laugh, ...seems people come here to fight and disagree. Where has it gone that certain topics cannot be discussed without people trying to shut them down because of how the topic makes them 'feel'.

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If these videos and memes are 'mocking' and wrong and sinful. So then is SNL when they make fun of Donald Trump or other political figures? And the people(including orgmembers) who enjoy it, as they make 'mock' of 45, Orange turd etc is it wrong? Or only wrong when something triggers their feelings

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laughing at something, having a sense of humor, taking things too serious(or personal) is the issue
my brothers and my cousins 'mock' each other all the time. Been doing it since we were kids. But there is no malice to it, and we usually laugh from the time we walk into the door to the time we leave. And years later still remember those times and crack up.

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Another example. We were in our late teens/early 20s some of us living on our own, some in college etc. My dad put together a picnic. Call his nephews and nieces. And we all just had to show up, he and my mom prepared everything. So my brother and my cousin and her husband were playing SPADES. We talk MAD JUNK when we play spades. Talk about each others mothers, spouses, relationships, soul mind and body. Mind you it's usually my cousin and I on a team vs my brother and her husband(example) so when I'm talking about his(my brother)'s mother I'm talking about mine So we are slamming cards and just going at it. My other cousin wife brought her cousin along. She heard us talking and 'mocking' each other and became offended at what she heard. She literally got angry and got up and wanted someone to drive her home. My dad pulled her aside and said she doesn't understand family, that we do this with no thought or ill intent, that we've been doing that as long as we could play, that we love each other. She sat down. A few years later at my cousins house, she said after being with us she got it, and she was right at the table mocking and talking junk and laughing.

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If your conscious is that the youtube post is 'mocking' or that the one 2Freaky posted is 'mocking', who is to judge? You did see that one right? None of those videos were personally directed at anyone on the org.
I doubt the people who made them are going to hell for it. Being offended doesn't mean the offended is right. Your religious belief doesn't dictate my existance or others, right.
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I have deep relationships with people who don't take themselves to seriously. We laugh, at ourselves at each other at something that happened. I remember back in the 80s an ice storm. My brother and parents were caught in it heading home. My brother came to the door first and had a LOOK ON HIS FACE. They were all home and safe but that LOOK had my funny bone tringling. My mother and father were right behind my brother and saw it too. After we were all inside and comfy I brought up my brothers look and my parents burst out laughing and then my younger brother, and then my brother who had the LOOK. 30+ years later we can still laugh it. While I know there are people who will be offended literally. That's the thing of life.

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God's last word and judgement will be on a lot of things, if you believe that stuff. And it's most important on the things you(I) will be judged on, the intent, the heart, things no one knows etc
'Mocking' is not a sin. Mocking is a tool, why/how you use the tool is the wrong. As a gun and sword are not evil. The hearts intent is. And just because a 'work' is deamed 'righteous' by people, doesn't mean it is 'righteous' by God. "If a man give his life and has not charity..." etc

The debate of Abortion is one of those(SJW for Abortion / SJW against Abortion)
Jim Jones to started out trying to do something righteous, he didn't start out the way he ended.
if the author of a sj thing, isn't against your beliefs, let's say the person is atheist or Satanist, even if it seems like a good thing. how would god view it, and how would god through your dogma view you if you supported such sj thing.
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And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

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He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord shall hold them in derision.
From His throne in heaven the Lord laughs and mocks their feeble plans.
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You know how religious conversations go. that's why we don't have them. Religious people/discussions get mocked and attacked and you know it. That's why I doubt anyone making this a religious discussion is going to affect members who don't believe in that stuff. No need to go any deeper.

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Although this place was always more aggressive than Housequake, we used to have discussions on religious topics a lot when I first came here. We had people discussing their Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, JWs etc. People could post prayers and comments without the issues the site has allowed build up in P&R and PM&M etc. In Lent I used to post a daily preparation with no trouble. The Void would explain his Buddhism. JWs would explain their beliefs etc.

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Humour is not the issue. The Youtubes are not the issue. It is that the thread is a bait thread and people who have been "triggered" have been mocked here in the Org, not on SNL or in a youtube. The anti-SJW campaign is a far right cancel culture tactic to attack the person and not the issue by labelling the person seeking to make what they saw as a positive change.

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Quoting Old Testament examples of mocking is not a justification to mock people seeking to live as a Christians by following the Beatitudes and not the latest political position of conservatives against people using the internet to discuss social justice issues. Family and friend relationships are different from online communities. This needs to be taken into account in how we treat other here.

So offense came in and people who get triggered easily because of their lifes experiences won't allow it. Think about that.

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You don't know my heart IanRG, nothing I said was to bait anyone. Yes you know I have issues with the Catholic denomination. For all I know you could be reacting to me because of that. But it doesn't matter. I don't influence your life as you don't mine.
I saw the video and was cracking up about it, I wanted to share it on the Org. I have fun in life, laugh a lot, talk junk, joke, play etc That's it. I shared it with people on FB/text too. Still cracking up about it. No, no one actually needs to worry about other peoples feelings on the Org or any FB group or any other media space. As it isn't the Orgs job to deal with drug/substance abuse, as some wanted us to after Prince died. Or every place will be held in hostage from people who are 'triggered' Think about the threads that were/are about SEX, just sex talk. We had people try to get them shut down, get offended that someone was talking about Prince in a very sexual way... don't click on it. simple.

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If me posting it is baiting, then so is the Youtuber who created it. It cannot be two seperate issues. If no one was addressed or singled out, then no one should have taken it personal. The issue is people who are sensitive and have unresolved issues. They will react to things on FB, and in other places in cyberspace. The Org is not special or unique to this. Until the last month I never paid attention to sjw or what it was hell I just found out what smh meant earlier this year. Literally. You cannot judge people you don't know, you cannot judge my heart(or anyones) you barely 'KNOW' the people you see and touch every day. I don't care what the far right does. Cancel culture is more of a far LEFT tactic. But both do it and people having nothing to do with politics do it.

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If the book says Elijah mocked, then that is a part of what you are supposed to take into account. Mocking is an express, not an intent. And you are a Catholic, I'm not, and many org members are not believers. And the org is not a Christian channel.
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If you(I) get triggerd by a youtube video not directed at you, then where lies the problem. The video is what the video is. So if I never posted it, and you saw the video on your own, would you still feel offended and mocked etc. The issue is from the person inside and how they interpret or channel what they are seeing/hearing. No one can make you(I) feel or act out if it's not in you. I champion certain social concerns. I could be assumed to be a sjw. I still didn't get offended. This is feeling icky sticky now, too much talking which goes no where.

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Simply this was not personal nor directed at anyone personally. It should not have been taken personally. Because everyone didn't take it that way. It's like someone walking into a church angry that they are talking about God. Or someone who goes into a gay bar and gets offended that they are just shoving 'it' in their face.

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Reply #85 posted 10/26/20 7:36pm

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IanRG said:

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Although this place was always more aggressive than Housequake, we used to have discussions on religious topics a lot when I first came here. We had people discussing their Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, JWs etc. People could post prayers and comments without the issues the site has allowed build up in P&R and PM&M etc. In Lent I used to post a daily preparation with no trouble. The Void would explain his Buddhism. JWs would explain their beliefs etc.

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Humour is not the issue. The Youtubes are not the issue. It is that the thread is a bait thread and people who have been "triggered" have been mocked here in the Org, not on SNL or in a youtube. The anti-SJW campaign is a far right cancel culture tactic to attack the person and not the issue by labelling the person seeking to make what they saw as a positive change.

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Quoting Old Testament examples of mocking is not a justification to mock people seeking to live as a Christians by following the Beatitudes and not the latest political position of conservatives against people using the internet to discuss social justice issues. Family and friend relationships are different from online communities. This needs to be taken into account in how we treat other here.

So offense came in and people who get triggered easily because of their lifes experiences won't allow it. Think about that.

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You don't know my heart IanRG, nothing I said was to bait anyone. I saw the video and was cracking up about it, I wanted to share it on the Org. That's it. I shared it with people on FB/text too. Still cracking up about it. No, no one actually needs to worry about other peoples feelings on the Org or any FB group or any other media space. As it isn't the Orgs job to deal with drug/substance abuse, as some wanted us to after Prince died. Or every place will be held in hostage from people who are 'triggered' Think about the threads that were/are about SEX, just sex talk. We had people try to get them shut down, get offended that someone was talking about Prince in a very sexual way... don't click on it. simple.

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If me posting it is baiting, then so is the Youtuber who created it. It cannot be two seperate issues. If no one was addressed or singled out, then no one should have taken it personal. The issue is people who are sensitive and have unresolved issues. They will react to things on FB, and in other places in cyberspace. The Org is not special or unique to this. Until the last month I never paid attention to sjw hell I just found out what smh meant earlier this year. Literally. You cannot judge people you don't know, you cannot judge my hear(or anyones) you barely 'KNOW' the people you see and touch every day. I don't care what the far right does. Cancel culture is more of a far LEFT tactic.

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If the book says Elijah mocked, then that is a part of what you are supposed to take into account. Mocking is an express, not an intent. And you are a Catholic, I'm not, and many org members are not believers. And the org is not a Christian channel.
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If you(I) get triggerd by a youtube video not directed at you, then where lies the problem. The video is what the video is. So if I never posted it, and you saw the video on your own, would you still feel offended and mocked etc. The issue is from the person inside and how they interpret or channel what they are seeing/hearing. No one can make you(I) feel or act out if it's not in you.

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Simply this was not personal nor directed at anyone personally. It should not have been taken personally. Because everyone didn't take it that way. It's like someone walking into a church angry that they are talking about God. Or someone who goes into a gay bar and gets offended that they are just shoving 'it' in their face.

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We can be better.

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The term SJW is a far right cancel culture tactic whether or not any other political group uses similar tactics.

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It follows the call from people like Glen Beck who asked people to check their church's websites and if they mention the phrase "social justice" then he said they should move to another church.

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Many people are interested in social justice and thereby either deliberately seek to follow the Word of God through the Beatitudes or inadvertently through being a good person and are not Catholics or may not even know that these blessing for positive humanist actions are in the Bible. Against this, there are many of the worst possible acts by people in the Old Testament - seeking to emulate people in the Old Testament instead of Jesus is not something I would preach at anyone.

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There is no point in continuing this discussion.

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IanRG said:

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I do not see people seeking to stop others mocking and trying to trigger them, to seek to stop bombing innocents, to seek to help the poor, to seek to do no harm to innocents, etc. as something not worth defending.

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This section of the Bible is about whether the faithfulness or otherwise of people entrusted with God's teachings and the implications on this Word should be judged by us.

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"What if some [of these people] were unfaithful? Will their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? By no means! Although everyone is a liar [or may be a liar], let God be proved true, as it is written, 'So that you may be justified in your words, and prevail in your judging'. But if our injustice serves to confirm the justice of God, what should we say? That God is unjust? ... by no means".

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So even if everyone is a liar, God's word is true. When people properly judge God's word to be true in what God taught us in the Beatitudes and alike, then there is no error in a humanist response to be against what Freaky listed because they are seeking to follow and live the Words of God. When people seek to mock the methods of people seeking to follow the Words of God or at least act consistent with them, then this judgement on people acting in line with God's word is false judgement.

How do you know it isn't happening? We don't even see each other(general idea of cyberspace interactions).

That section is about people having their own ways/ideas and morality vs God

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God still has the last word on what is or isn't

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Yeah I wish I could go there, but cannot ...


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Are You Easily Offended?

by Bruce Gore

Other people too often push our buttons, hurt our feelings and treat us disrespectfully. Sometimes it is even unintentional. How should we respond?

Is there anyone who hasn't been hurt at one time or another by the words of others? The offending party may have been insensitive or angry and was probably in the wrong, but is that the end of the story? Do unkind words have to lead to a broken relationship?

We can't control others, so what can we do if they don't recognize their offense? What if they don't think it was a big deal and don't see a need to apologize? When several people tell us we are too easily offended, we may need to ask ourselves, is it true? Could we be overly sensitive to what others say to or about us?

Marriages and family relationships are often harmed because of minor disrespectful comments and actions that escalate into angry arguments or icy silences. Offense can pile on top of offense until the original attack is forgotten.

If we are offended, is there anything we can do to save the relationship?

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to the herp, no I'm not one.

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New Yorkers, you can thank me in part because I too, am a SJW(maybe activist is better) when it comes to working to legalize pot. This is a fact.


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Why I'm Not A Social Justice Warrior

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Nov 18, 2019ยท7 min read




I remember when I first read Audre Lorde's seminal essay, The Master's Tools Will Never Dismantle the Master's House as a sophomore in college. I felt like I was hearing something so familiar, yet revolutionary. In it, Audre Lorde criticizes the white organizers of the conference where she's speaking for their inability to see the intersections of racial, sexual and gender hierarchies in their activism and in their own practices. She admonished white feminism's hypocrisy in trying to disrupt patriarchy, while perpetuating practices of marginalizing the voices of women of color specifically/especially as she herself was being tokenized at that moment. Specifically, she voiced the frustrations of being treated as a token conference speaker and I, as the only Black woman in class, knew that practically every time I spoke, my white colleagues were hearing one of the few, if not only, progressive Black voices in their lives up to that point.

I was somewhere on the distant left, basking in the easy authenticity of being a young Black woman with a recently grown afro and working-class ethics. So when I did talk, I had to really challenge the fundamentals of the content and direction of many of the discussions we had in class. For me, speaking up meant speaking to many puzzled white people. Folks who felt challenged just by my presence. They felt I took everything too literally, too aggressively, or too abstractly. Whatever microaggression you can think of, Feel free to insert the microaggression of your choice here; I heard it. While I couldn't quite grasp the fullness and complexity of the world then and I definitely still can't now,

I feel like those of us who are concerned with social justice are still living in the world of Lorde's 1979 essay. That even with all of our wokeness, we still are missing something fundamental when we recognize someone's discriminatory practices. The problem starts with a particular brand of social justice warriors (or SJWs) and call-out culture.
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A social justice warrior describes a person who is willfully trying to make a difference, but they are going about it in the worst possible way. Warriors for social justice typically are students of some humanities degree, who, after being traumatized by American history in college, speak of "tearing down the system" without doing enough thinking, which results in gratuitous amounts of Tweeting hashtags and outrage without actually doing any work or research into solving the problem at hand. SJWs are symbolic, there is no action behind the outrage. virtue signaling and an abnormal Twitter habit. They are slightly naive, but not wrong. They're not actually/often wrong in the outrage, they are misdirected. Someone who is misdirected in their self-righteousness typically sees any resistance to their call-out as legitimate resistance to societal change. For example, if I get into verbal fisticuffs with someone over his use of the word "cunt", I will most likely mistake this person's anger and resentment and mansplaining as "toxic masculinity" and "unchecked privilege". In reality, the entire conversation is misplaced. Patriarchy will still be a thing even if men en masse stopped calling women "cunts". Arguing over words is only ever going to make a person not say the word anymore; that is until they log on to 8chan and complain about the whole interaction to their adoring audience of online trolls.

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SJWs, therefore, make it so easy to criticize leftist politics and tear down otherwise meaningful movements and conversations, as we see happen every day with Trump acolytes dismissing legitimate causes as SJW "whining and crying." Just watch Fox News any time. But even I, a Black woman who read The Communist Manifesto in eighth grade, find it difficult to understand their endless individual outrage. The call-out culture that we see emerging on Twitter when a celebrity or company says or does something that offends us (or a marginalized group) isn't enough to produce transformative change. It allows for too much virtue signaling and victim-making to actually keep track of what the actual issues are. Think back to the H&M hoodie controversy. When the image of 5-year-old, Black child named Liam in a hoodie that read, "Coolest Monkey in the Jungle" went viral. The internet didn't stop to think that the outcome of its outrage might mean that Liam would never get work as a model again. It also didn't think twice about attacking Liam's mother as an "Uncle Tom". Eventually, as the conspiracy theories started to roll in, the family had to seek protection...

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