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Reply #30 posted 10/29/20 9:06am

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OldFriends4Sale said: France is not an islamic country, we have the right to mock every religion, every beliefs, it's a part of our DNA. If some communities can't accept that they can always leave.


Have you ever felt, that if you said or did something that your life could be in danger?



I was in Bataclan some weeks before the 2015 attack. Danger is anywhere any time now in France, there have been an horrific islamist attack in a cathedral in Nice this morning. Just one thing: I'm tired of reading bullshit about Charlie Hebdo's people ( Cabu, Wolinski, Charb and their friends) who have been killed, in US/ English media: they hated racism, they hated the right-wing politics, National Front - and National Front hates them too - they have spent their life attacking French Nationalism, army, Catholic Church and the Pope.


Here in Holland too I sometimes see comments like: they shouldn't be so provocative etc etc... I'm not French, so I can't onderstand all their jokes, but we need people like that, they're the modern court jesters.
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Reply #31 posted 10/29/20 3:17pm

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The former Malaysian Premier Mahathir tweeted that Muslims have a right to kill the French - Twitter has removed this post.

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Kind of puts all the angst, anger, innuendo, spin and accusations in some election coming up soon in perspective.

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France Knife Attack: Woman Beheaded, 2 Others Killed In A Suspected Terrorist Attack

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A knifeman shouting "Allahu Akbar" beheaded one woman and left two others dead while several more were injured. The suspect struck inside a church in Nice, France, the city's landmark Basilica of Notre-Dame de Nice, in what the local mayor described as a "terrorist" incident. The attacker was shot by police while being detained. He is in custody and he is alive, according to the mayor.

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One woman decapitated, at least two others killed during suspected terror attack in France
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Teen Shot Dead in Muslim-Majority Russian Region After 'Terrorism Attempt'

One woman decapitated, at least two others killed during suspected terror attack in France

A sacristan preparing for daily mass at a church in Southern France on Thursday was killed by a knife-wielding attacker shouting "Allahu Akbar," who also decapitated an elderly woman and then fatally stabbed another, according to officials.



© Alexis Gilli French policemen stand next to Notre Dame church after a knife attack, in Nice, France, Thursday, Oct. 29, 2020. French anti-terrorism prosecutors are investigating a knife attack at a church in the Mediterranean city of Nice that killed two people and injured several others. (AP Photo/Alexis Gilli)Local politician Eric Ciotti identified one the victims as 55-year-old Vincent Loques, a "devoted employee" at the Basilica of Notre-Dame in the city of Nice, where the attack unfolded around 9 a.m., local time.
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French prosecutors said the attacker was a Tunisian man, either 20 or 21 years old, who entered France from Italy. They said he was carrying a Quran and three knives when he was seriously injured and captured by police. He was treated at a nearby hospital.

In wake of the deadly stabbing, which authorities believe to be terror-related, French President Emmanuel Macron announced he would deploy thousands of soldiers to protect important sites, like houses of worship and schools, according to Reuters. He said the nation was being attacked "over our values, for our taste, for freedom, for the ability to have freedom of belief."

"And I say it with lots of clarity again today: We will not give any ground," he concluded

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Macron Declares 'France Is Under Attack' after Islamist Terrorist Kills Three Churchgoers
Mairead McArdle 19 hrs ago

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French President Emmanuel Macron declared Thursday that France is "under attack," hours after an Islamic terrorist wielding a knife decapitated a woman and killed two other people at a church in southern France.


© Eric Gaillard/Reuters French President Emmanuel Macron speaks to the media during the visit to the scene of a knife attack at Notre Dame basilica in Nice, France, October 29, 2020.
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The attack occurred near the Basilica of Notre-Dame in Nice, a city on France's southern coast. Two women and a man were killed. At least two of the three victims, including the woman who was reportedly decapitated, were inside the church.

"It's very clear that it is France that is under attack," Macron said during an address outside the basilica where the attack occurred, calling the incident an "Islamist terrorist attack."

"France will not give up on our values," the French president said.

Shortly after the attack, Macron boosted security around the country, increasing the number of soldiers at schools and places of worship from 3,000 to 7,000 troops.

The French president also participated in a crisis meeting at the Interior Ministry on Thursday before traveling to Nice in the wake of the attack, which put France on its highest level of alert.

Mayor Christian Estrosi said that the suspected knife attacker was shot by police while being detained and was taken to the hospital alive.

The "terrorist" shouted "Allahu akbar," which is Arabic for "God is great," as police arrested him, the mayor said, adding that, "the meaning of his gesture left no doubt."

The incident was one of three attacks against France on Thursday. A Saudi man was arrested after he attacked a guard with a sharp tool at the French consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, according to Saudi state media. The guard was hospitalized and suffered minor injuries. Meanwhile, an individual in the French city of Avignon wielded a knife and threatened people passing by while shouting "Allahu akbar" until police fatally shot the suspect.

Earlier this month, Samuel Paty, a 47-year-old history teacher, was beheaded in a Paris suburb by an 18-year-old Moscow-born Chechen immigrant who was angered by Paty showing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad to his class.

After Paty was killed, Macron vowed to crack down on Islamic extremism in France, promising that "the fear is now going to change sides," and that "the Islamists cannot be allowed to sleep peacefully in our country."

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Brazilian national named as victim of Nice church attack

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Simone Barreto Silva, a 44-year-old Brazilian national living in France, is named as one of the victims of Thursday's attack in Nice. Video credit: Simone Barreto Silva




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Reply #36 posted 10/30/20 8:09am

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Macron Declares 'France Is Under Attack' after Islamist Terrorist Kills Three Churchgoers
Mairead McArdle 19 hrs ago

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French President Emmanuel Macron declared Thursday that France is "under attack," hours after an Islamic terrorist wielding a knife decapitated a woman and killed two other people at a church in southern France.


© Eric Gaillard/Reuters French President Emmanuel Macron speaks to the media during the visit to the scene of a knife attack at Notre Dame basilica in Nice, France, October 29, 2020.
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The attack occurred near the Basilica of Notre-Dame in Nice, a city on France's southern coast. Two women and a man were killed. At least two of the three victims, including the woman who was reportedly decapitated, were inside the church.

"It's very clear that it is France that is under attack," Macron said during an address outside the basilica where the attack occurred, calling the incident an "Islamist terrorist attack."

"France will not give up on our values," the French president said.

Shortly after the attack, Macron boosted security around the country, increasing the number of soldiers at schools and places of worship from 3,000 to 7,000 troops.

The French president also participated in a crisis meeting at the Interior Ministry on Thursday before traveling to Nice in the wake of the attack, which put France on its highest level of alert.

Mayor Christian Estrosi said that the suspected knife attacker was shot by police while being detained and was taken to the hospital alive.

The "terrorist" shouted "Allahu akbar," which is Arabic for "God is great," as police arrested him, the mayor said, adding that, "the meaning of his gesture left no doubt."

The incident was one of three attacks against France on Thursday. A Saudi man was arrested after he attacked a guard with a sharp tool at the French consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, according to Saudi state media. The guard was hospitalized and suffered minor injuries. Meanwhile, an individual in the French city of Avignon wielded a knife and threatened people passing by while shouting "Allahu akbar" until police fatally shot the suspect.

Earlier this month, Samuel Paty, a 47-year-old history teacher, was beheaded in a Paris suburb by an 18-year-old Moscow-born Chechen immigrant who was angered by Paty showing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad to his class.

After Paty was killed, Macron vowed to crack down on Islamic extremism in France, promising that "the fear is now going to change sides," and that "the Islamists cannot be allowed to sleep peacefully in our country."

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It appears that Macron does have some balls. Let's see what he does next. Simone Barreto Silva RIP.

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France terror attack reignites a national debate on the right to offend
Analysis by Luke McGee, CNN 1 hr ago

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For the second time in as many weeks, France is reeling from the devastation of a brutal knife attack that authorities are ascribing to an Islamist terrorist.


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Killings in France trigger Bangladesh protests against Macron
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SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Muslims protested in Bangladesh on Friday after killings by a Tunisian migrant in a French church prompted a vow by President Emmanuel Macron to hold his ground against attacks on his country's values and freedom of belief.

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Muslims protest across Asia against France as Nice mourns church attack dead
By Tangi Salaün and Caroline Pailliez 6 hrs ago

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Muslims protest across Asia against France as Nice mourns church attack dead

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PARIS/NICE, France (Reuters) - France stepped up security nationwide on Friday to guard against new Islamist attacks following the fatal stabbings at a church in Nice, while Muslims in other countries protested in the streets over perceived French slights to the Prophet Mohammad.




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Reply #38 posted 10/30/20 2:12pm

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This is horrible, I can't understand what's going on in those extremists damaged heads

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French pupils remember slain teacher as anti-Macron protests persist overseas
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PARIS (Reuters) - Schools across France held a minute's silence on Monday in memory of Samuel Paty, the teacher beheaded by a Chechen teenager who wanted to avenge his use of cartoons mocking the Prophet Mohammad during a class on freedom of expression.

© Reuters/BENOIT TESSIER Woman holds her child by the hand on their way to the school in the area around the Bois d'Aulne college in the Paris suburb of Conflans-Sainte-Honorine With France at its highest security level following further attacks since Paty's killing on Oct. 16, some 12 million pupils returned to school for the first time since the 47-year-old was slain in broad daylight on the eve of a two-week school holiday.

President Emmanuel Macron cast the killing as an attack on French values and the Republic itself. But his insistence that France will not compromise on basic freedoms of belief and expression has provoked outcry among Muslims worldwide.

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"The idea of terrorism is to create hatred," Macron wrote in a message to schoolchildren on social media. "We will pull through this together."

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© Reuters/MOHAMMAD PONIR HOSSAIN FILE PHOTO: Muslims take part in a protest in Dhaka Macron has enraged Muslims around the globe by describing Islam as "a religion in crisis all over the world" and defending free speech that some deem blasphemous or inflammatory.

On Monday, thousands protested outside the French embassy in Jakarta carrying banners calling Macron the "real terrorist".

In Bangladesh, supporters of the Islamic group Hefazat-e-Islam (Protectors of Islam) used their shoes to beat up a poster bearing Macron's photograph as thousands marched on the embassy in Dhaka.

"We will boycott French goods," said Muslim devotee Rakibul Islam.

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Reply #40 posted 11/02/20 11:40am

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Let Bangladesh and Jakarta have their protests, worry about the Muslim community in your own country, they need to work together and work out why anyone would want to become a terrorist. What's going wrong there? Don't allow simplistic narratives be the answer to complex questions.

Hefazat-e-Islam sound like a bunch of lunatics.

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Reply #41 posted 11/02/20 12:20pm

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Free speech goes both ways. This is like saying all Hispanics are rapists.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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France can defend both freedom of speech and freedom of religion for Muslims

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Washington Examiner logoFrance can defend both freedom of speech and freedom of religion for Muslims

President Emmanuel Macron is rightly doubling down on his defense of free speech and France's secular national identity. But as Macron does so, he should reconsider laws which are incongruous with those values.

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Specifically, Macron should eliminate the headscarf ban which prevents most Muslim women from wearing veils in public places. While the ban only affects more conservative of Sunni Islamic Muslims who believe full veils are required by Islamic teaching, it serves a legal barrier to freedom. It thus also represents an obstruction of free speech on a matter of immense value to some French Muslims.

This bears noting amid the ongoing Charlie Hebdo Prophet Mohammed cartoon saga.

Since the recent murder of a schoolteacher, Samuel Paty, who was decapitated for showing his class the magazine's cartoon, Macron has advanced a message of resolution in face of terrorist intimidation. Rightly pointing out that the ability of a person or publication to speak their mind is an instrumental to France's identity, Macron has pledged to give no quarter in face of those who would corral French freedom. Even and especially as Salafi-Jihadist groups such as al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb now threaten his life, Macron is right to adopt this hardline. It would be inexcusable for any political leader to allow terrorists or sectarians to restructure what constitutes acceptable speech involving Islam. More broadly, France's reckoning with separatist Islamic activity is long overdue.

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Reply #43 posted 11/02/20 7:29pm

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Muslims are marginalized in France and there is underlying anger. In Paris, they are often relegated to living in the banileus-(Public housing) on the outskirts of the city.

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Horrified by deadly attacks, French Muslims protect church
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PARIS (AP) — As a French-born Muslim, Elyazid Benferhat's stomach turned when he heard about a deadly Islamic extremist attack on a church in Nice. Then he decided to act

A self-described man of peace and pragmatism, Benferhat and a friend gathered a group of young Muslim men to stand guard outside their town's cathedral for the All Saints' holiday weekend, to symbolically protect it and show solidarity with Catholic churchgoers.

Parishioners at the 13th-century church in the southern town of Lodeve were deeply touched. The parish priest said their gesture gave him hope in a time of turmoil.

Benferhat, speaking with a distinctive southern French accent, identified himself as "more French than anything." While his mother was born in Algeria, he was born in France and grew up speaking only French. "But I am also Muslim ... and we have seen Islamophobia in this country, and terrorism," he told The Associated Press.

"In recent years, I've had a pit in my stomach," because every time Islamic extremist violence strikes France, he said, French Muslims face new stigmatization, even though "we had nothing to do with it."

He called the beheading of a teacher near Paris last month — targeted because he showed his class caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad for a debate on free expression — an act of "unbelievable, unprecedented cruelty."

Then when three people were killed last Thursday in the Notre Dame Basilica in Nice, Benferhat said he was so sickened that he wanted to do something "so that everyone wakes up."

Benferhat, who works for French oil company Total and coaches at a local football club, talked to a Muslim friend who was in Nice that day, "and we had this idea. We needed to do something beyond paying homage to the victims. We said, we will protect churches ourselves."

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Reply #45 posted 11/12/20 9:21am

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Our family lived in Paris for a year and the kindest people (to us), were the Algerians, who are Muslim.

Our apt had an electrical fire and a Muslim women insisted we move in with her.

We only stayed 2 nights but never forgot her kindness and generosity.

Another Algerian young man who worked @ the local grocery was also extremely kind and helpful.

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