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France demonstrations pay tribute to beheaded teacher

This is very sad and continually disturbing

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France demonstrations pay tribute to beheaded teacher

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PARIS (AP) — Demonstrators in France on Sunday took part in gatherings in support of freedom of speech and in tribute to a history teacher who was beheaded near Paris after discussing caricatures of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad with his class.

Samuel Paty was beheaded on Friday by a 18-year-old Moscow-born Chechen refugee who was shot dead by police.

Political leaders, associations and unions demonstrated Sunday on the Place de la Republique in Paris holding placards reading “I am Samuel,” that echoed the “I am Charlie” rallying cry after the 2015 attack on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, which published caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

Demonstrators also gathered in major cities including Lyon, Toulouse, Strasbourg, Nantes, Marseille, Lille and Bordeaux.

French authorities, meanwhile, say they have detained an 11th person following the killing.

Anti-terrorism prosecutor Jean-Francois Ricard said an investigation for murder with a suspected terrorist motive was opened. At least four of those detained are family members of the attacker, who had been granted 10-year residency in France as a refugee in March, was armed with a knife and an airsoft gun, which fires plastic pellets.

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BB1a8zdH.img?h=533&w=799&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=2931&y=659© Provided by Associated Press Girls light candles outside the school where a slain history teacher was working, Saturday, Oct. 17, 2020 in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, northwest of Paris. French President Emmanuel Macron denounced what he called an "Islamist terrorist attack" against a history teacher decapitated in a Paris suburb Friday, urging the nation to stand united against extremism. The teacher had discussed caricatures of Islam's Prophet Muhammad with his class, authorities said. The suspected attacker was shot to death by police after Friday's beheading. (AP Photo/Michel Euler)

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Reply #1 posted 10/18/20 10:24am

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Horrible. What I have read is that the teacher even allowed muslims students to leave the classroom when he showed the cartoons, but for some, even that isn't good enough. We should never give in to the wishes of extreme religious groups.
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Reply #2 posted 10/19/20 6:28am

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Absolutely horrendous. Evil.

"I think people ought to know that we're anti-fascist, we're anti-violence, we're anti-racist and we're pro-creative. We're against ignorance."
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Reply #3 posted 10/19/20 6:44am

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I'm going to throw up
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Reply #4 posted 10/19/20 7:43am

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An awful story but why stir up Islamophobia? This was lone nut. Quit with showing pictures of the profit. Forget free speech, think.

By the way, France has awful laws against free speech. They are also the home of post modernism.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #5 posted 10/19/20 7:46am

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2freaky4church1 said:

An awful story but why stir up Islamophobia? This was lone nut. Quit with showing pictures of the profit. Forget free speech, think.



By the way, France has awful laws against free speech. They are also the home of post modernism.



Let's stay focused with underpants please when discussion of world laws.
Doesn't the entire world have to wear clothes in public?
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Reply #6 posted 10/19/20 7:50am

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I don't .

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Reply #7 posted 10/19/20 8:07am

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2freaky4church1 said:

An awful story but why stir up Islamophobia? This was lone nut. Quit with showing pictures of the profit. Forget free speech, think.

By the way, France has awful laws against free speech. They are also the home of post modernism.

While I fully expect that to happen in this thread, no one has done that so far?

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Reply #8 posted 10/19/20 12:56pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

An awful story but why stir up Islamophobia? This was lone nut. Quit with showing pictures of the profit. Forget free speech, think.



By the way, France has awful laws against free speech. They are also the home of post modernism.


Talk about denying the right to free speech… Fascist alert
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Reply #9 posted 10/19/20 3:33pm

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Reply #10 posted 10/19/20 5:16pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

An awful story but why stir up Islamophobia? This was lone nut. Quit with showing pictures of the profit. Forget free speech, think.

By the way, France has awful laws against free speech. They are also the home of post modernism.

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It is not about Islamaphobia, it is anti-Islamist: The Islamists kill more Muslims than anyone else.

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He may not have been a lone nut: The OP mentions 11 people have been detained - these may have been involved or are just part of the investigation.

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Every country has controls on free speech: Avoiding throwing stones because we live in glass houses is deflecting from addressing a deplorable and horrific event.

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Yes, people should consider the impacts of being deliberately and unnessarily provocative and sacrilegious both out of respect for other people's beliefs and for personal safety - However, this does not excuse the true crime here.

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Reply #11 posted 10/19/20 5:50pm

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always infuriating hearing about this shit happening in this day and age

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IanRG said:



2freaky4church1 said:


An awful story but why stir up Islamophobia? This was lone nut. Quit with showing pictures of the profit. Forget free speech, think.



By the way, France has awful laws against free speech. They are also the home of post modernism.



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It is not about Islamaphobia, it is anti-Islamist: The Islamists kill more Muslims than anyone else.


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He may not have been a lone nut: The OP mentions 11 people have been detained - these may have been involved or are just part of the investigation.


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Every country has controls on free speech: Avoiding throwing stones because we live in glass houses is deflecting from addressing a deplorable and horrific event.


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Yes, people should consider the impacts of being deliberately and unnessarily provocative and sacrilegious both out of respect for other people's beliefs and for personal safety - However, this does not excuse the true crime here.


The teacher wasn't being provocative. He showed the cartoons as part of a lesson on free speech and like I said before, muslim children could leave if they wanted to. What worries me the most is that the killer was not a lone nut, he was surrounded by people who supported him and who even pointed the teacher out to him. Apparently, there are muslims who are more concerned about a cartoon showing the prophet than about the murders being commited in the name of the prophet. That's why I said that we should never give in to the wishes of extreme religious groups. And showing children that there are different beliefs, different ways of thinking, even if they are provocative, is the only way to stop them from growing up into religious radicals.
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Reply #13 posted 10/20/20 5:19am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

IanRG said:

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It is not about Islamaphobia, it is anti-Islamist: The Islamists kill more Muslims than anyone else.

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He may not have been a lone nut: The OP mentions 11 people have been detained - these may have been involved or are just part of the investigation.

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Every country has controls on free speech: Avoiding throwing stones because we live in glass houses is deflecting from addressing a deplorable and horrific event.

.

Yes, people should consider the impacts of being deliberately and unnessarily provocative and sacrilegious both out of respect for other people's beliefs and for personal safety - However, this does not excuse the true crime here.

The teacher wasn't being provocative. He showed the cartoons as part of a lesson on free speech and like I said before, muslim children could leave if they wanted to. What worries me the most is that the killer was not a lone nut, he was surrounded by people who supported him and who even pointed the teacher out to him. Apparently, there are muslims who are more concerned about a cartoon showing the prophet than about the murders being commited in the name of the prophet. That's why I said that we should never give in to the wishes of extreme religious groups. And showing children that there are different beliefs, different ways of thinking, even if they are provocative, is the only way to stop them from growing up into religious radicals. [Edited 10/20/20 1:13am] [Edited 10/20/20 1:14am]

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I know - you are miss reading what I said and what I was specifically replying to.

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Cable news avoiding this story, rightly

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #15 posted 10/20/20 3:19pm

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It's time to stop these criminals, this guy shoud get exactly the same punishment for what he did.

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slyjackson said:

It's time to stop these criminals, this guy shoud get exactly the same punishment for what he did.


He was shot dead by the police.
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Reply #17 posted 10/21/20 3:52am

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The Muslim community is who all have to denounce this. That's the only people I want to hear from. From the top of their lungs they need to call this shit out so the crazies in this religion don't keep doing this crap

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The Beheading of a Teacher in France Exposes a Cultural Schism That Threatens President Macron's Future
Vivienne Walt / Paris 1 hr ago

Even in a country that has suffered devastating terrorist attacks in the past five years, the macabre beheading of a schoolteacher Oct. 16 has stunned France, as politicians and regular citizens grapple with religious extremism in their midst—igniting a political battle that could threaten the prospects of President Emmanuel Macron.



© Bertrand Guay / AFP via Getty Images President of French Ile-de-France region Valerie Pecresse (1st L), mayor of Conflans Sainte-Honorine Laurent Brosse (C) and mayor of Eragny-sur-Oise Thibault Humbert (2nd R) attend the 'Marche Blanche' in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, northwest of Paris, on October 20, 2020, in solidarity after a teacher was beheaded for showing pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed


Samuel Paty, a middle-school history and civics teacher, was on his way home from work Friday afternoon in a quiet suburban town north-west of Paris when an attacker cornered him on the street, and stabbed him repeatedly, before decapitating him. Witnesses say the killer, later identified as an 18-year-old of Chechen origin who came to France as a refugee, shouted "Alluha Akhbar." "I have executed one of the dogs from hell who dared to put Muhammad down," he wrote in a message briefly posted on Twitter, with a photo showing Paty's severed head. Within minutes, the police tracked down the killer and shot him dead.

The gruesome murder—in retribution for Paty showing his students cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed —has cracked open a deep schism, that is rarely far from the surface in France. At issue is how the country's 5.7 million Muslims—the largest Muslim population in the European Union—assimilate, or not, in a country whose constitution is based on an unyielding principle of secularism and which has seen multiple terrorist attacks by jihadists since 2015. Muslim leaders fear it will precipitate a crackdown that will deepen the divide between moderate and radical worshippers. "I fear that this attack will be the last drop that makes the water spill," Hassen Chalghoumi, France's best-known moderate Muslim cleric, tells TIME.

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France bans Islamist group after killing of teacher: government spokesman1 hr ago

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PARIS (Reuters) - France will ban an Islamist group named after the late Sheikh Yassin as part of a crackdown on militants following the murder of a French schoolteacher last week, government spokesman Gabriel Attal said on Wednesday.

Samuel Paty was beheaded on Oct. 16 by an 18-year-old of Chechen origin seeking to avenge his victim's use of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression. Police shot the attacker dead.

"This is a battle over security, culture and education," Attal said.

The banned group is named after Sheikh Yassin, a Palestinian Muslim leader and co-founder of the Hamas movement, who was assassinated in 2004. Hamas has denied any links with the French group.

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Two students were paid to identify slain French teacher, authorities say
Celine Castronuovo 24 mins ago

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French prosecutors on Wednesday argued that the person who beheaded a French teacher last week had paid two students in exchange for helping the attacker identify the teacher.

Prosecutors claimed that 18-year-old Abdullakh Anzorov, whom police shot and killed after he attacked 47-year-old history teacher Samuel Paty in broad daylight, had paid two teenage students approximately €300, about $355, to point out Paty, according to BBC News.

Prosecutor Jean-François Ricard said at a press conference Wednesday that Anzorov had told students he wanted to "film the teacher [and] make him apologize for the cartoon of the Prophet [Muhammad]."

Paty had received intense criticism from parents after he had reportedly shown his students cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in a civics class on freedom of expression.

Ricard added that the students, aged 14 and 15, allegedly described Paty to Anzorov and stayed with him for more than two hours outside the school until the teacher appeared.

The students, who were not named due to legal restrictions, are two of seven people whom French authorities are aiming to bring charges against over the beheading, according to the BBC.

On Tuesday, The Associated Press reported that French police were holding 16 people for questioning in connection with the attack in Pantin, located northeast of Paris...

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SantanaMaitreya said:

slyjackson said:

It's time to stop these criminals, this guy shoud get exactly the same punishment for what he did.

He was shot dead by the police.

What a shame, that's not enough.

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slyjackson said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

slyjackson said: He was shot dead by the police.

What a shame, that's not enough.

I sadly agree. That is way too kind.

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In my school days, we were taught to 'respect' others, not to 'disrespect' them.

This world really has changed.

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Pakistan summons French envoy over Macron's Islamist remarks
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Pakistan summoned France's ambassador Monday to complain about a "systematic Islamophobic campaign" in the European nation after French President Emmanuel Macron criticised Islamists and defended the publication of religious cartoons.



© Abdul MAJEED Traders shout slogans as they hold a banner and a poster of French Prime Minister Jean Castex, with a footprint over his face, during a protest following French President Emmanuel Macron criticised Islamists, in Peshawar, PakistanThe move came as small, scattered protests were held in cities across Pakistan and a day after Prime Minister Imran Khan accused Macron of "attacking Islam".


Foreign affairs ministry spokesman Zahid Hafeez Chaudhri told AFP the French ambassador had been summoned "to convey Pakistan's concerns over (the) systematic Islamophobic campaign under the garb of freedom of expression".

The French embassy in Islamabad did not immediately comment.

Macron spoke out last week after a Chechen extremist beheaded a French teacher near Paris after he had shown cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed during a class he was leading on free speech.

Macron said the teacher "was killed because Islamists want our future".

That comment compounded earlier controversy after the French premier this month said "Islam is a religion that is in crisis all over the world".

The teacher became the target of an online hate campaign over his choice of lesson material -- the same images that sparked a bloody assault by Islamist gunmen on the offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, the original publisher, in January 2015.

Caricatures of Mohammed are forbidden by Islam and blasphemy is an explosive issue in ultra-conservative Pakistan, where anyone deemed to have insulted Islam or Islamic figures can face the death penalty.

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