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Reply #30 posted 10/10/20 12:59pm

mbdtyler

looby said:

I do my part, and wear the mask when I go out to the stores, whatever, and I wash my hands, and social distance, but notice how no one is telling us when this whole mask wearing will be over! How long do they expect us to be walking around wearing masks, until the end of time perhaps? However, I'm sure that if it's up to the Democrats, who insist on the mask wearing, that it depends upon if their side wins or not, and the mask wearing will come off if they do! rolleyes I don't want to go through the rest of my life wearing a irratating, uncomfortable, annoying mask on my face, that is not living in my opinion, and I am not going to live in fear of covid for the rest of life, too afraid to live life, because that's not living at all, and just existing, miserably at that!

We're still wearing masks because covid cases are still spiking across the US and we've hit over 200,000 deaths. Why is that happening? Because the Republican party currently holding the White House and Senate have done everything in their power to obfuscate the public and downplay the seriousness of this pandemic. They've put their own self-interest above helping the public that they're supposed to be serving, when they could have nipped this shit in the bud back in February/March and we'd probably all be okay and maskless (or close to it) by now.

Seriously, the idea that Democrats are making us wear masks for some nefarious purpose is fucking laughable and I can't comprehend how people aren't placing the blame on Trump and his Republican cronies when they've been so transparently responsible for this entire mess. Right-wing media has really done a number on this country. I'm glad to see a few other reasonable people in this thread.

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Reply #31 posted 10/10/20 1:26pm

looby

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herb4 said:


Yeah, sure, do all that too but otherwise let me say "Fuck This Selfish Attitude".

It's not "the media" warning us. It's fucking DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS, ok? If any "media" is clouding the message, it's crap like FOX News. Is it overblown? Perhaps. I'll be sure to mention that to my former coworker who's laid up with it with his wife and who hasn't texted me back in 3 days while I worry about my 9 year old son attending school.

The point of the masks is to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not just your own selfish asses who view being asked to make this very minor, slightly inconvenient concession as silly, a violation of your very freedom, a threat to your masculinity or some sort of Big Government Breach into your god given constitutional rights to be complete assholes. You abject morons. I'm gonna go ahead and listen to the CDC, Dr. Fauci and the vast majority of other experts around the globe who say wearing masks helps stop the spread of Covid 19 over prince.org forums posters, DJ Thunderfunk and TraSoul82, if nobody minds.

God damn this is so frustrating. Is it THAT hard to slide a fucking mask on your face when you go into a public space? I mean, at a bare minimum, can it fucking HURT? Does it put you out that much to the point that your ability to smile smugly at a checkout line sans any sort of facial shield makes you feel Just That Good? And you have the nerve to talk about "logic"? Logic says wear the damned thing and get over yourselves.

Just put on the fuckin mask. Please. My god. Or are we down to worrying about "looking cool", defining people as weak or hysterical or making some weird political statement with this? It's like listening to idiots 45 years ago bitching about seatbelt laws being introduced all over again. You smug, self centered arrogant children. If it's not too much trouble, for everyone's sake, please fasten your seatbelts when you drive and, if it's not too much trouble, cover your fucking mouth with a mask when you're within 6 feet of me and my epileptic son when you're indoors. I'd REALLY appreciate it.

On topic, I wouldn't care if Prince wore one or not and wouldn't look to him for medical guidance either way given the misguided role he played in handling Mayte's pregnancy, not to mention the way he died, even though I find the question interesting.

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Oh please, one of those "fucking DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS" himself, Dr. Anthony Fauci, was caught NOT wearing the very same masks that his hypocritical ass calls for, while sitting at a baseball game, enjoying himself with others, and whom I may add, were NOT social distancing either! GMAFB! It's not FOX NEWS that is lying to you and spreading crap messaging, it's probably the liars that you put your trust in CNN, who don't tell idiots like you the truth! Tell the hypocrite Democrats who preach to others about wearing masks, but have been caught on camera themselves NOT wearing the same masks they crow about, such as Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Maxine Watters, Dr. Fauci, and others! So you can save that bull**** you're spouting, and another thing, just because you are using obsenities, doesn't mean you are going to bully anyone into doing what you command them to!

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Reply #32 posted 10/10/20 1:38pm

Margot

looby said:

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BlueShakooo said:

herb4 said: yeahthat

Oh please, one of those "fucking DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS" himself, Dr. Anthony Fauci, was caught NOT wearing the very same masks that his hypocritical ass calls for, while sitting at a baseball game, enjoying himself with others, and whom I may add, were NOT social distancing either! GMAFB! It's not FOX NEWS that is lying to you and spreading crap messaging, it's probably the liars that you put your trust in CNN, who don't tell idiots like you the truth! Tell the hypocrite Democrats who preach to others about wearing masks, but have been caught on camera themselves NOT wearing the same masks they crow about, such as Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Maxine Watters, Dr. Fauci, and others! So you can save that bull**** you're spouting, and another thing, just because you are using obsenities, doesn't mean you are going to bully anyone into doing what you command them to!

Covid has been politicized by both parties. Tiresome.

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Reply #33 posted 10/10/20 1:38pm

looby

Margot said:

looby said:

e

Oh please, one of those "fucking DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS" himself, Dr. Anthony Fauci, was caught NOT wearing the very same masks that his hypocritical ass calls for, while sitting at a baseball game, enjoying himself with others, and whom I may add, were NOT social distancing either! GMAFB! It's not FOX NEWS that is lying to you and spreading crap messaging, it's probably the liars that you put your trust in CNN, who don't tell idiots like you the truth! Tell the hypocrite Democrats who preach to others about wearing masks, but have been caught on camera themselves NOT wearing the same masks they crow about, such as Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Maxine Watters, Dr. Fauci, and others! So you can save that bull**** you're spouting, and another thing, just because you are using obsenities, doesn't mean you are going to bully anyone into doing what you command them to!

Covid has been politicized by both parties. Tiresome.

That, I definitely agree.

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Reply #34 posted 10/10/20 1:42pm

mbdtyler

Margot said:

looby said:

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Oh please, one of those "fucking DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS" himself, Dr. Anthony Fauci, was caught NOT wearing the very same masks that his hypocritical ass calls for, while sitting at a baseball game, enjoying himself with others, and whom I may add, were NOT social distancing either! GMAFB! It's not FOX NEWS that is lying to you and spreading crap messaging, it's probably the liars that you put your trust in CNN, who don't tell idiots like you the truth! Tell the hypocrite Democrats who preach to others about wearing masks, but have been caught on camera themselves NOT wearing the same masks they crow about, such as Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Maxine Watters, Dr. Fauci, and others! So you can save that bull**** you're spouting, and another thing, just because you are using obsenities, doesn't mean you are going to bully anyone into doing what you command them to!

Covid has been politicized by both parties. Tiresome.

And yet one party's politicization has led to over 200,000 deaths because of carelessness. Seems like that might be a bit more egregious than asking people to wear a mask, but keep both-sidesing everything, because that has definitely helped us in the last 4 years.

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Reply #35 posted 10/10/20 1:46pm

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This thread needs to be moved to P&R. It ain't about Prince at this point. Just sayin'... wink

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Reply #36 posted 10/10/20 2:10pm

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djThunderfunk said:

This thread needs to be moved to P&R. It ain't about Prince at this point. Just sayin'... wink

Exactly what I was gonna say. rolleyes

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Reply #37 posted 10/10/20 2:11pm

looby

mbdtyler said:

Margot said:

Covid has been politicized by both parties. Tiresome.

And yet one party's politicization has led to over 200,000 deaths because of carelessness. Seems like that might be a bit more egregious than asking people to wear a mask, but keep both-sidesing everything, because that has definitely helped us in the last 4 years.

No, you're wrong about that one. China unleashing a virus upon the world "has led to over 200,000 deaths because of carelessness....or like others who blame our President, have you forgotten that, "because of one party's politicization?"

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Reply #38 posted 10/10/20 2:29pm

Margot

looby said:

mbdtyler said:

And yet one party's politicization has led to over 200,000 deaths because of carelessness. Seems like that might be a bit more egregious than asking people to wear a mask, but keep both-sidesing everything, because that has definitely helped us in the last 4 years.

No, you're wrong about that one. China unleashing a virus upon the world "has led to over 200,000 deaths because of carelessness....or like others who blame our President, have you forgotten that, "because of one party's politicization?"

I'm not republican, but the Dems have way over-played this. (I am a nurse).

If anyone should be 'blamed' it's Cuomo. He did not heed the warnings and NYC got hammered.

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Reply #39 posted 10/10/20 2:42pm

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Reply #40 posted 10/10/20 3:08pm

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A mask isn't too much to ask.



PS: Welcome to P&R lol

[Edited 10/10/20 15:22pm]

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Reply #41 posted 10/10/20 3:11pm

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looby said:

I do my part, and wear the mask when I go out to the stores, whatever, and I wash my hands, and social distance, but notice how no one is telling us when this whole mask wearing will be over! How long do they expect us to be walking around wearing masks, until the end of time perhaps? However, I'm sure that if it's up to the Democrats, who insist on the mask wearing, that it depends upon if their side wins or not, and the mask wearing will come off if they do! rolleyes I don't want to go through the rest of my life wearing a irratating, uncomfortable, annoying mask on my face, that is not living in my opinion, and I am not going to live in fear of covid for the rest of life, too afraid to live life, because that's not living at all, and just existing, miserably at that!

Life isn't worth living if you have to wear a mask? rolleyes

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Reply #42 posted 10/10/20 3:37pm

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^^^Apparently it is^^^

Who knew?


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That actually says a lot. Good job, GOP and Republican weirdos, once again. Fucking idiots. I fail to see how democrats politicized this really incredibley far out, totally insane suggestion that perhaps, maybe, we could do this one tiny little thing to protect OTHER PEOPLE from getting sick that the vast majority of doctors and scientists say is a good idea but here we are.

Plus we know that the GOP and republicans DON'T CARE about other people and are so far gone that they've had to invent their own media and safe spaces, leading to many of them going entirely off the reservation into Qanon and Pizzagate land.


This shouldn't be political. Please wear the mask and help do what you can to stop the spread of this.

Or not and just be a smug beligerent dick for literally no reason at all other than you have some weird point you're trying to make.

You assholes know if I, my son, or his mom test positive, that's a game changer right? Someone has to miss work, quarantine, home school him and not get paid.

Oh please, one of those "fucking DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS" himself, Dr. Anthony Fauci, was caught NOT wearing the very same masks that his hypocritical ass calls for, while sitting at a baseball game, enjoying himself with others, and whom I may add, were NOT social distancing either! GMAFB! It's not FOX NEWS that is lying to you and spreading crap messaging, it's probably the liars that you put your trust in CNN, who don't tell idiots like you the truth! Tell the hypocrite Democrats who preach to others about wearing masks, but have been caught on camera themselves NOT wearing the same masks they crow about, such as Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Maxine Watters, Dr. Fauci, and others! So you can save that bull**** you're spouting, and another thing, just because you are using obsenities, doesn't mean you are going to bully anyone into doing what you command them to!


Oh no...not...not.......OBSCENITIES!

*clutches pearls*

I don't watch CNN. And I'm a registered independent. I'm also an adult that recognizes a global pandemic that has killed 214,000 americans and over a million globally. How many 9/11's is that? If SOME of us weren't deciding to not be children about this, the death toll would likely be double that.

Yeah...but "FUCK wearin' a mask I aint no sheep. Can't BULLY me and tell ME what to doooo! 'MERICA!"

No one's commanding anything or bullying anyone you big fucking weirdo and the fact that you view it like that is quite telling. You honestly have the "manners" to censor the word "bullshit" and then post that horse shit you wrote? You covered all the buzzwords too and even worked in a "Pelosi"

Have you noticed that the recent spread, hot spot and outbreak lately has been confined to Republicans who speak like you?

Since you and every other poor persecuted person like you seem to need a safe space and demand the proper respect, let me try this:


So...*ahem*...

Excuse me...pretty please. With sugar on top. If it's not too much trouble, kind sir or madam, would you please be polite and kindly wear a mask when you are around me or my son while maintaining distance? I am currently without health insurance and he has had 2 epileptic seizures by the age of 9. A hospital visit for either of us would not only put a great financial burden on my family, but would also expose us further and cause us inconvenice FAR GREATER than sliding a mask on my face.

I know it's REALLY hard to do and you're a little bit fussy about it for some reason but I would greatly appreciate it and call you a true amercian patriotic hero! I will laud your sacrifice. Perhaps I am being hysterical and am brainwashed by the left wing liberal media but, just to be on the safe side, I'd like to again ask you nicely for this ONE small favor.

Again, I know it's very hard.

*SALUTES*

*USA! USA! USA! CHANT* "Something about guns and jesus and bibles..."

I dunno. Whatever it takes. Thanks in advance.

I get why some of you are angry and hostile because this country is turning to shit, but, at your core, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with some of you people?


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Reply #43 posted 10/10/20 3:53pm

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mbdtyler said:

looby said:

I do my part, and wear the mask when I go out to the stores, whatever, and I wash my hands, and social distance, but notice how no one is telling us when this whole mask wearing will be over! How long do they expect us to be walking around wearing masks, until the end of time perhaps? However, I'm sure that if it's up to the Democrats, who insist on the mask wearing, that it depends upon if their side wins or not, and the mask wearing will come off if they do! rolleyes I don't want to go through the rest of my life wearing a irratating, uncomfortable, annoying mask on my face, that is not living in my opinion, and I am not going to live in fear of covid for the rest of life, too afraid to live life, because that's not living at all, and just existing, miserably at that!

We're still wearing masks because covid cases are still spiking across the US and we've hit over 200,000 deaths. Why is that happening? Because the Republican party currently holding the White House and Senate have done everything in their power to obfuscate the public and downplay the seriousness of this pandemic. They've put their own self-interest above helping the public that they're supposed to be serving, when they could have nipped this shit in the bud back in February/March and we'd probably all be okay and maskless (or close to it) by now.

Well, it's actually quite simple.

We have to die on the sword of capitlism because "freedom". Or something. These angry "fuck this shit!" people are so very strange to me and I find myself unable to relate to them at all anymore. EVERYTHING is a god damned fake news conspiracy, a secret coupe, some bizarre shadowy SOROS driven agenda or a plot to take away everyone's stupid guns or some shit so Hillary can finally take over AMerica and we can have SHaria Law.

If anyone has politicized this, it's the fucking republicans. Full stop. Or maybe I'm imagining all those TRUMP, AMERICAN FLAG, EAGLE and THIN BLUE LINE face masks I see on the faces of the few of these stubborn pricks that will even bother making even this tiniest of concessions to something ever so slightly and remotely related to an issue outside the realm of themselves.

The fuck kind of political points or gains do democrats have to gain by asking people to wear a stupid face mask? Some of you people are acting like you were asked to submit a DNA sample or agree to have a microchip implanted in your arm. God damn. And you're often the same ones who think that cops should be able to act outside the law and do whatver they want.

We're currerntly at 1/2 the U.S. casulties we suffered during WW2. Read this and see what people like my grandparents did back then and how some of you petulant children would respond NOW if you were asked to do even half of it

https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/history/info-2020/world-war-ii-rationing.html

For as tough as some of you like to pretend to come off, you sound like a bunch of selfish pussies.

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Reply #44 posted 10/10/20 3:57pm

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herb4 said:

mbdtyler said:

We're still wearing masks because covid cases are still spiking across the US and we've hit over 200,000 deaths. Why is that happening? Because the Republican party currently holding the White House and Senate have done everything in their power to obfuscate the public and downplay the seriousness of this pandemic. They've put their own self-interest above helping the public that they're supposed to be serving, when they could have nipped this shit in the bud back in February/March and we'd probably all be okay and maskless (or close to it) by now.

Well, it's actually quite simple.

We have to die on the sword of capitlism because "freedom". Or something. These angry "fuck this shit!" people are so very strange to me and I find myself unable to relate to them at all anymore. EVERYTHING is a god damned fake news conspiracy, a secret coupe, some bizarre shadowy SOROS driven agenda or a plot to take away everyone's stupid guns or some shit so Hillary can finally take over AMerica and we can have SHaria Law. You guys Do know you control the WH, the senate and the supreme court, right? Yet somehow these nefarious shady democrats are doing...uh...something...?

If anyone has politicized this, it's the fucking republicans. Full stop. Or maybe I'm imagining all those TRUMP, AMERICAN FLAG, EAGLE and THIN BLUE LINE face masks I see on the faces of the few of these stubborn pricks that will even bother making even this tiniest of concessions to something ever so slightly and remotely related to an issue outside the realm of themselves.

The fuck kind of political points or gains do democrats have to gain by asking people to wear a stupid face mask? Some of you people are acting like you were asked to submit a DNA sample or agree to have a microchip implanted in your arm. God damn. And you're often the same ones who think that cops should be able to act outside the law and do whatver they want.

We're currerntly at 1/2 the U.S. casulties we suffered during WW2. Read this and see what people like my grandparents did back then and how some of you petulant children would respond NOW if you were asked to do even half of it

https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/history/info-2020/world-war-ii-rationing.html

For as tough as some of you like to pretend to come off, you sound like a bunch of selfish pussies.

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Reply #45 posted 10/10/20 4:06pm

Strive

Sorry buddy, I don't need a million words to point out that masks is all poltical theater. The majority of people either don't have the correct mask or don't follow proper mask wearing etiquette to make them effective. They aren't a magical relic.

People were willing to try to do what they could to prevent the spread until it became known that it really meant that you were expected to be in this "new normal" forever and lose your livelihood while the people in charge got to do whatever they wanted (rules for thee, not for me) and large masses of people rioted in the street with the approval from the establishment.

Aboo boo, evil republicans do everything wrong.

You are the one that needs to grow up and calm the hell down.

"When you deny people the option to not pick a side, you may not like the side they'll pick."
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Reply #46 posted 10/10/20 4:41pm

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^That's because the establishment is THE problem.

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Reply #47 posted 10/10/20 4:58pm

Strive

PennyPurple said:

^That's because the establishment is THE problem.

Well, I'll give you a hint. It isn't the Trump Administration endorsing Antifa. It's the DNC and all of our corporate overlords.

"When you deny people the option to not pick a side, you may not like the side they'll pick."
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Reply #48 posted 10/10/20 5:03pm

IanRG

Strive said:

PennyPurple said:

^That's because the establishment is THE problem.

Well, I'll give you a hint. It isn't the Trump Administration endorsing Antifa. It's the DNC and all of our corporate overlords.

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And you will, of course, be able to show where the DNC endorsed antifa - Hint, they have not.

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Also where organisations like the FBI and DHS have said antifa is the real issue - Hint they have identified several times that domestic terrorism by white supremacists is the real issue by a very wide margin.

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Reply #49 posted 10/10/20 5:24pm

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In 2018, then deputy chair of the DNC, Keith Ellison, endorsed antifa.

https://www.newsweek.com/...oup-770958


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Reply #50 posted 10/10/20 5:35pm

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Strive said:

PennyPurple said:

^That's because the establishment is THE problem.

Well, I'll give you a hint. It isn't the Trump Administration endorsing Antifa. It's the DNC and all of our corporate overlords.

But we aren't talking about Antifa, we are talking about wearing a mask. And this establishment is THE problem, hence why COVID cases are rising every.single.day here in the US.

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Reply #51 posted 10/10/20 5:36pm

IanRG

djThunderfunk said:

In 2018, then deputy chair of the DNC, Keith Ellison, endorsed antifa.

https://www.newsweek.com/...oup-770958


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Your article states "Newsweek was unable to reach Ellison for comment about his tweet, but it is unclear whether or not he "endorsed" the book, or whether he was simply making a joke."

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He made no statement for the DNC to endorse antifa - he only said "I just found the book that strike fear in the heart of @realDonaldTrump," as the comment to the picture Ellison tweated in a thread linked to trump's Twitter account."

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You have regularly shown that word "antifa" does, in fact, strike fear into the hearts of trump and the trumpclones.

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So no, no one can show the DNC endorsing antifa - an endorsement by a political party, if made will be demonstratable with documentary evidence, not joke tweats to thread linked to trump's twitter account.

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Reply #52 posted 10/10/20 5:45pm

IanRG

PennyPurple said:

Strive said:

Well, I'll give you a hint. It isn't the Trump Administration endorsing Antifa. It's the DNC and all of our corporate overlords.

But we aren't talking about Antifa, we are talking about wearing a mask. And this establishment is THE problem, hence why COVID cases are rising every.single.day here in the US.

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Deny, defend, deflect, never address.

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And the USA daily average new cases keep climbing - you have to go back to mid August to find a sustained period of cases falling. trump's total covid19 deaths will be over 220,000 in days.

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I see no reason to belive that Prince would not wear a mask.

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Reply #53 posted 10/10/20 5:58pm

mbdtyler

Conservatives are completely unhinged nowadays, there's no point in even trying to argue with a group who is untethered from reality and basic human decency.

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Reply #54 posted 10/10/20 6:21pm

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IanRG said:

PennyPurple said:

But we aren't talking about Antifa, we are talking about wearing a mask. And this establishment is THE problem, hence why COVID cases are rising every.single.day here in the US.

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Deny, defend, deflect, never address.

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And the USA daily average new cases keep climbing - you have to go back to mid August to find a sustained period of cases falling. trump's total covid19 deaths will be over 220,000 in days.

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I see no reason to belive that Prince would not wear a mask.

I'm just not understanding what the big deal is about wearing a mask?

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Reply #55 posted 10/10/20 6:36pm

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I was reading through this thread and saw a comment about the flu.

I've been working with elderly and disabled clients since 2010 as a medical social worker. In all that time, I have never once lost a client to the flu. I have had some hospitalized, but no one ever died. With Covid, I have lost several in the last few months. In fact, our agency has seen an increase in deaths among our clientele since Covid hit.

Someone mentioned "50,000" deaths from the flu. That isn't actually accurate. The CDC uses a model to determine "flu deaths" and does not go by an actual account of who has died from the flu. The numbers reflected are what they "propose" of people who may have gotten the flu and died from the flu based upon mathematical calculations. The numbers reported by the CDC of Covid related deaths are actual numbers that have to be reported. In fact, when you look at actual number of flu deaths each year, you may get 15,000 to 20,000 deaths (20,000 is a high guess). The CDC webpage FAQ section actually states that the flu is not a reportable illness, nor do they actually know the number of people who truly get sick with flu, because they look at "flu-like illnesses" not actual lab verified numbers.

CDC uses mathematical modeling in combination with data from traditional flu surveillance systems to estimate the numbers of flu illnesses in the United States.

Regarding hospitalizations:

CDC conducts surveillance for flu-related hospitalizations through the Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Network (FluSurv-NET), a collaboration between CDC, the Emerging Infections Program, and additional Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Project (IHSP) states in 13 geographically distributed areas in the United States. The network includes hospitals that serve roughly 9 percent of the U.S. population. The data collected through FluSurv-NET allows CDC to calculate an overall hospitalization rate, as well as by age group, but this system does not provide the total number of flu hospitalizations that actually occur in the United States.

Regarding flu deaths:

CDC does not know exactly how many people die from seasonal flu each year. There are several reasons for this. First, states are not required to report individual flu illnesses or deaths among people older than 18 years of age to CDC. Second, influenza is infrequently listed on death certificates of people who die from flu-related complications. Third, many flu-related deaths occur one or two weeks after a person’s initial infection, either because the person may develop a secondary bacterial co-infection (such as bacterial pneumonia) or because influenza can aggravate an existing chronic illness (such as congestive heart failure or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease). Also, most people who die from flu-related complications are not tested for flu, or they seek medical care later in their illness when influenza can no longer be detected from respiratory samples. Sensitive influenza tests are only likely to detect influenza if performed within a week after onset of illness. In addition, some commonly used tests to diagnose influenza in clinical settings are not highly sensitive and can provide false negative results (i.e. they misdiagnose flu illness as not being flu.) For these reasons, many flu-related deaths may not be recorded on death certificates. These are some of the reasons that CDC and other public health agencies in the United States and other countries use statistical and mathematical models to estimate the annual number of flu-related deaths.

The difference between the way they "monitor" the flu and Covid are two different things. Hospitals, doctors, etc., are required to report actual case numbers of positives and deaths. However, they also look at much more information.


CDC COVID Data Tracker users can track the following data daily:

  • U.S. cases and deaths of COVID-19 and the impacts of COVID-19.
  • Trends in U.S. COVID-19 cases by jurisdiction, including case information over time and by age group and sex.
  • Laboratory tests performed by U.S. commercial, hospital, public health, and CDC laboratories and the percentage of positive test results.
  • School closures in the United States due to COVID-19, including information on planned dates of reopening, the percentage of school districts to remain closed over time, and projections for how long schools may remain closed (7 days, 14 days, 21 days, and 1 month)
  • Impact of COVID-19 events, which includes news reports related to social impact events resulting from the COVID-19 outbreak in the United States, such as school closures, localized outbreaks, and state of emergency declarations.
  • Mobility data from local areas including information on mobility data in the workplace, retail and recreation, transit station, and people staying at home.

CDC COVID Data Tracker displays these data using visual dashboards that include interactive maps and graphics. The data and information provided by COVID Data Tracker will be expanded over time.

The flu and Covid are two different beasts. Yes, the flu has an impact every year and yes people die from the flu. But the numbers you get about how many die from the flu are not actual numbers, but rather a complicated mathematical model they use based off of 9% of the US population. Whereas, with Covid, hospitals, medical facilities, doctor offices, are REQUIRED to report actual numbers to their local health depts., which are then required to report those numbers (used to be to the CDC until Trump wanted it changed to a central databse to the Dept. of Health and Human Services). Now, why would Trump want Covid numbers reported there, instead of the CDC? Hmm, there are many news articles out there talking about numbers being retroactively adjusted because they said "the CDC reports inflated the risk" and they "slowed down a CDC report on hydroxychloroquine".

It is absolutely idiotic to compare flu to Covid. These are two completely different illnesses and are in no way comparable.

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Reply #56 posted 10/10/20 10:37pm

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Massive Co-Sign! nod

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Not only would Prince wear a mask, but he would have made damn sure it was custom made. cool

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TonyVanDam said:

Not only would Prince wear a mask, but he would have made damn sure it was custom made. cool



It would have been stitched together from the underpants of 7 virgins.
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