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Reply #30 posted 10/15/20 9:10am

Margot

jaawwnn said:

Forgive my ignorance here, but what does your personal story (which sounds awful, sorry to hear it) have to do with media manipulation?

I used it to explain my first-hand experience with the way in which a belief-system can manipulate.

It took me many years living in that environment to finally clearly see what they were doing.

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Reply #31 posted 10/15/20 9:39am

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I was a liberal/centrist but it is my opinion the Democratic party is something I no longer recognize and I am concerned. I am mainly concerned that other moderate Americans are not awake enough to ask what is going on.

Our schools are sub-standard compared to other countries, there is a lack of critical thinking, a complacency etc. These last 2 traits are contributing to our downfall.

Why aren't we challenging the the influence and control of Facebook, Amazon, Google? I think it's largely a result of our dependence on them.

IMO, these entities along with media zillionarires are controlling us. Of course, why should we bother???

We are comfortably asleep in our big homes with perfect HVAC systems, big TV's, big cars...zzzzz

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I think this applies to media outlet's, especially today

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One thing I wanted to say is, don't be fooled by the internet. It's cool to get on the computer, but don't let the computer get on you.... It's cool to use the computer, don't let the computer use you. Y'all saw The Matrix. There's a war going on. The battlefield's in the mind. And the prize is the soul. So just be careful. Be very careful. Thank you


Margot said:

I used to live in Berkeley, CA. All I can say is the experience was often disturbing.

My daughter was high-achieving and wanted to enroll in the International Baccalaureate program @ the High School.

Instead, she was placed in one of the special (actually remedial) programs with a fancy name as the vice principal told her

she the ability to "advocate" for herself and that she was "privileged" and needed to help others. (she was 14)

In this program, she would not have had access to the classes she needed to go to a decent college.

They were basing their assessment of privilege based on my sister's zip code. (We had used my sister's address as our high school was plagued with gang violence)

We stayed there all day fighting with them and they finally relented.

There was so much strangeness in that town. At one time, one of the Berk. intelligentsia wanted

to limit the profit a person could take from a home-sale. (It was discovered this person was supported by a trust fund)This idea was shelved quickly as there was an outcry from blacks as home ownership was their main source of wealth.

At the high school, labs for physics, chemistry and biology were cancelled as they were considered

programs for the "privileged."

The school forbade the International Bac final test as "it was too stressful" for "kids"

I understand that many of the liberal tenets started with care and goodwill, but something darker is going on now. I have mentioned before I have seen the creep into NPR's content, the NYTimes and now into the WSJ (newsroom).

I could go on, but what I am trying to communicate is that any type of dogma is harmful, including liberal dogma. We, as Americans, tend to be under-educated and complacent and as such are easily swayed.

What is going on with media manipulation is of grave concern to me.

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[Edited 10/15/20 9:03am]

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Reply #33 posted 10/15/20 9:44am

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Margot said:

jaawwnn said:

Forgive my ignorance here, but what does your personal story (which sounds awful, sorry to hear it) have to do with media manipulation?

I used it to explain my first-hand experience with the way in which a belief-system can manipulate.

It took me many years living in that environment to finally clearly see what they were doing.

Margot said:

I was a liberal/centrist but it is my opinion the Democratic party is something I no longer recognize and I am concerned. I am mainly concerned that other moderate Americans are not awake enough to ask what is going on.

Our schools are sub-standard compared to other countries, there is a lack of critical thinking, a complacency etc. These last 2 traits are contributing to our downfall.

Why aren't we challenging the the influence and control of Facebook, Amazon, Google? I think it's largely a result of our dependence on them.

IMO, these entities along with media zillionarires are controlling us. Of course, why should we bother???

We are comfortably asleep in our big homes with perfect HVAC systems, big TV's, big cars...zzzzz

[Edited 10/15/20 9:40am]

Ok, gotcha. Yeah, I mean I mostly agree, well, I can't speak for the US school system but it's not the only system suffering from increased financialization, we have that issue over here as well. Probably not to the same extent though.

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Margot said:

I was a liberal/centrist but it is my opinion the Democratic party is something I no longer recognize and I am concerned. I am mainly concerned that other moderate Americans are not awake enough to ask what is going on.

Our schools are sub-standard compared to other countries, there is a lack of critical thinking, a complacency etc. These last 2 traits are contributing to our downfall.

Why aren't we challenging the the influence and control of Facebook, Amazon, Google? I think it's largely a result of our dependence on them.

IMO, these entities along with media zillionarires are controlling us. Of course, why should we bother???

We are comfortably asleep in our big homes with perfect HVAC systems, big TV's, big cars...zzzzz

[Edited 10/15/20 9:40am]

I think the more extreme progessive people in the Democratic party more aggressively are changing what the party once was.

The Democratic party has far too many diverse causes and issues on their plate. And it has more infighting in that party than any others. The Presidential running party has distanced itself in the campaign. blm leader Patrice has not 'endorsed' Biden, but has connected with the Working Family Party - Reps. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley

I've heard from people and read how colleges are just indoctrinating they youth with more far left ideals. Which that age range is very gullible.

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jaawwnn said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

that is the problem, and that is what I'm addressing

as we have been bringing up here

Do you have a favourite publication you would recommend from the right, from the left, and from the centre/ something you think doesn't fall into any of those brackets?

I'm not one to usually 'react' without waiting and looking for further information. But I was dumbstruck at how easily I fell in the GF narrative, not even having seen any video, I sorta went a long with it to the point of speaking against what i 'heard' happen. I was embarrassed, when I saw the whole video... I thought I was beyond that.

At this point I don't have a favorite publication. I watch read listen and talk to people. But it angers me how media has turned up the manipulated narratives this year especially. And watching throngs of people just go along with things. I think today I understand how easily cult leaders, pimps, tellamarketers trick people. I'm going to watch a doc on Jim Jones and Charles Manson later today.

Group think is a dangerous thing.

So I saw this online the other day. I'm going to check it out. Look it over, tell me what you think.

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Reply #36 posted 10/15/20 11:02am

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Margot said:

I was a liberal/centrist but it is my opinion the Democratic party is something I no longer recognize and I am concerned. I am mainly concerned that other moderate Americans are not awake enough to ask what is going on.

Our schools are sub-standard compared to other countries, there is a lack of critical thinking, a complacency etc. These last 2 traits are contributing to our downfall.

Why aren't we challenging the the influence and control of Facebook, Amazon, Google? I think it's largely a result of our dependence on them.

IMO, these entities along with media zillionarires are controlling us. Of course, why should we bother???

We are comfortably asleep in our big homes with perfect HVAC systems, big TV's, big cars...zzzzz

[Edited 10/15/20 9:40am]

I think the more extreme progessive people in the Democratic party more aggressively are changing what the party once was.

The Democratic party has far too many diverse causes and issues on their plate. And it has more infighting in that party than any others. The Presidential running party has distanced itself in the campaign. blm leader Patrice has not 'endorsed' Biden, but has connected with the Working Family Party - Reps. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley

I've heard from people and read how colleges are just indoctrinating they youth with more far left ideals. Which that age range is very gullible.

My concern is that Kamala will actually be running the show. She is competent but she is not

who won.

Black Llives Matter, IMO, is largely funded by the several wealthy donors. My concern is the movement is geared more towards garnering the black vote than making any appreciable change in the black circumstance.

If there was genuine care, these 'philanthropists' would be rolling up their sleeves and going into the neigbhorhoods and building quality schools, rebuilding homes etc. I would be 100% in favor of that endeavor. Even the president of the NAACP has seen little in the way of substantive improvements from the BLM movement.

Men with megolomanical tendencies who wish to dominate are nothing new., (current crop)= Bezos, Soros, Brin, Zuckerberg, Trump, Bloomberg etc. We need to remember what happened in the past with unscrupulous, powerful men, ie., Vanderbilt, Rockefellar,Carnegie etc.

(It's interesting to me that after they' rape and pillage', they metamorphose into "philanthropists")

[Edited 10/15/20 11:04am]

[Edited 10/15/20 11:05am]

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Reply #37 posted 10/16/20 2:20am

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Margot said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think the more extreme progessive people in the Democratic party more aggressively are changing what the party once was.

The Democratic party has far too many diverse causes and issues on their plate. And it has more infighting in that party than any others. The Presidential running party has distanced itself in the campaign. blm leader Patrice has not 'endorsed' Biden, but has connected with the Working Family Party - Reps. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley

I've heard from people and read how colleges are just indoctrinating they youth with more far left ideals. Which that age range is very gullible.

My concern is that Kamala will actually be running the show. She is competent but she is not

who won.

Black Llives Matter, IMO, is largely funded by the several wealthy donors. My concern is the movement is geared more towards garnering the black vote than making any appreciable change in the black circumstance.

If there was genuine care, these 'philanthropists' would be rolling up their sleeves and going into the neigbhorhoods and building quality schools, rebuilding homes etc. I would be 100% in favor of that endeavor. Even the president of the NAACP has seen little in the way of substantive improvements from the BLM movement.

Men with megolomanical tendencies who wish to dominate are nothing new., (current crop)= Bezos, Soros, Brin, Zuckerberg, Trump, Bloomberg etc. We need to remember what happened in the past with unscrupulous, powerful men, ie., Vanderbilt, Rockefellar,Carnegie etc.

(It's interesting to me that after they' rape and pillage', they metamorphose into "philanthropists")

In all honesty i'd be inclined to say that her record speaks for itself when it comes to the black community.





OldFriends4Sale said:

I've heard from people and read how colleges are just indoctrinating they youth with more far left ideals. Which that age range is very gullible.

Tell me some more about these "far left ideals" people are being indoctrinated with?





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Reply #38 posted 10/16/20 3:09am

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I'm not one to usually 'react' without waiting and looking for further information. But I was dumbstruck at how easily I fell in the GF narrative, not even having seen any video, I sorta went a long with it to the point of speaking against what i 'heard' happen. I was embarrassed, when I saw the whole video... I thought I was beyond that.

At this point I don't have a favorite publication. I watch read listen and talk to people. But it angers me how media has turned up the manipulated narratives this year especially. And watching throngs of people just go along with things. I think today I understand how easily cult leaders, pimps, tellamarketers trick people. I'm going to watch a doc on Jim Jones and Charles Manson later today.

Group think is a dangerous thing.

So I saw this online the other day. I'm going to check it out. Look it over, tell me what you think.

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Never heard of it, could be of some use for sure. I'm not a huge fan of these kinds of websites personally, I like to know the angle i'm getting from the news and I don't really trust people who claim to be impartial. (That's one of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of the NyTimes, who pretend to be impartial but are not, which is one thing for your opinion pages but quite another for your news. They have a massive budget though so it's not like they never have any good stories.)

I don't mind reading a right-leaning publication if it's honest about that. e.g. There's a good journal, https://americanaffairsjournal.org/, which obviously is not a news website but it has what I consider to be some of the best consevative commentary right now. I don't agree with their politics in general but they ask some seriously hard questions on it and feature very sharp critique.



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Reply #39 posted 10/16/20 8:25am

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Though I feel the WSJ newsroom is very liberal, I have to say I get a kick out of reading the comments to many of the articles, especially those written by obviously young, zealous, though naive,

journalists. Combining the comments ( from mature, well-educated, though more conservative readers) with the article gives a sense of the "truth" and it is very entertaining as well.

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I don't know why the page isn't allowing me to post underneath
But here are a few varying links about the topic.

I sometimes wonder if our(USA) media being more left leaning is connecting
like media including FB and Twitter not covering and censoring the recent Hunter Biden 'situation' even Biden continually not being asked about it during the presidential debates.

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https://www.washingtonexa...g-academia

Liberalism is rampant on campus and ruining academia

by Lauren Cooley, |

| September 06, 2018 01:42 PM

Many Americans believe that colleges and universities are doing a disservice to students. In fact, 61 percent of Americans, both Democrats and Republicans, have a negative view of higher education. It's even higher for Republicans, as 73 percent say colleges and universities are going in the wrong direction.
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https://www.nas.org/blogs...nvestigate

Why Are Most College Professors Liberal? New Studies Investigate

Ashley Thorne
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Why is the professoriate predominantly liberal? A. Because "There is an intrinsic link between liberalism and intelligence such that the more liberal views of those with advanced degrees reflect liberals' greater academic potential." [The liberals-are-smarter theory] B. "Because cognitive development occurs with additional years of schooling, leading the intelligentsia to find fault with what they see as simplistic conservative ideologies." [The more-learning-makes-profs-liberal theory] C. Because the professoriate seeks a way to differentiate itself "from both the middle class and business elites." [The profs-turn-liberal-because-they-resent-the-middle-classtheory] D. Because the entrenched liberals who dominate "knowledge work fields...refuse to hire colleagues with dissenting opinions." [The liberals-are-biased-against-conservativestheory] E. Because "The professoriate acquired a reputation as a liberal occupation" and liberals today "acting on the basis of this reputation and seeking careers that accord with their political identities, are more likely than conservatives to aspire to become academics." [The self-selection theory] F. Because conservatives are dogmatic and turn away from disciplines that require open-mindedness. [The liberals-are-more-open-minded theory] G. Because professors tend more than most Americans to reside in cities and have fewer children, which favors their embracing liberal political views. [The lifestyle-liberalismtheory] H. Because professors are, on average, less religious than other Americans, which corresponds with their being more liberal. [The grad-school-appeals-to-seculariststheory] I. Because conservatives are more materialistic and are drawn to private-sector jobs; while liberals, concerned more with their "sense of meaning," are more likely to be drawn to academic work. [The conservatives-prefer-money-to-learning theory] This catalog of explanations is to be found in the first 11 pages of a new working paper by Ethan Fosse, Jeremy Freese, and Neil Gross, released yesterday. Their answer is an emphatic E. "Self-selection" in their view is the only answer for which they can find robust empirical support. If they are right, this should change one of the longest-running and often most bitter debates in contemporary higher education.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/t...cna1042051

Campus conservatives aren't under siege — but there's more to the story

If academics truly believe in education through diversity, they should want to ensure that students are exposed to a broad range of political views...



jaawwnn said:

Margot said:

In all honesty i'd be inclined to say that her record speaks for itself when it comes to the black community.





OldFriends4Sale said:

I've heard from people and read how colleges are just indoctrinating they youth with more far left ideals. Which that age range is very gullible.

Tell me some more about these "far left ideals" people are being indoctrinated with?





[Edited 10/16/20 2:36am]

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Reply #41 posted 10/16/20 9:42am

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Well there is an argument i've heard quite a bit - and while I don't buy it 100% I certainly buy it to some degree - that Universities and the newspaper media (i.e. culture) are largely liberal and to the "left" while businesses who own all the money (i.e. economy) are very much to the right.

Personally i'd be more than happy to give up what happens in universities for what happens in business, I want the economy on the left, not the wishy washy academy no one pays any attention to except to stoke the fires of the culture wars.


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George Soros 2016 Ukrain Hunter Biden billions of dollars pumped into the Democratic campaign 2020(by George Soros) Biden not questioned during the 'debate' about the emails Hunter Biden scandel censored by Twitter and Facebook Censoring of Political Speach etc

Backlash to Facebook and Twitter clampdown on NY Post story
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/backlash-to-facebook-and-twitter-clampdown-on-ny-post-story/ar-BB1a6BV0?ocid=msedgntp

Sohrab Ahmari on Hunter Biden emails:

Why did social media never block anti-Trump stories?

New York Post op-ed editor weighs in after Facebook and Twitter limit spread of Hunter Biden reports.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sohrab-ahmari-on-hunter-biden-emails-why-did-social-media-never-block-anti-trump-stories/vi-BB1a6sKC?ocid=msedgntp

If these emails are authenticated, Joe Biden needs to step out of race:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/if-these-emails-are-authenticated-joe-biden-needs-to-step-out-of-race-bongino/vi-BB1a5V3W?ocid=msedgntp

Twitter backtracks, allows users to post previously blocked NY Post article


The REAL Reason Liberal Megadonor George Soros Is Spending BIG
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1859122354226836

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George Soros 2016 Ukrain Hunter Biden billions of dollars pumped into the Democratic campaign 2020(by George Soros) Biden not questioned during the 'debate' about the emails Hunter Biden scandel censored by Twitter and Facebook Censoring of Political Speach etc

Backlash to Facebook and Twitter clampdown on NY Post story
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/backlash-to-facebook-and-twitter-clampdown-on-ny-post-story/ar-BB1a6BV0?ocid=msedgntp

Sohrab Ahmari on Hunter Biden emails:

Why did social media never block anti-Trump stories?

Duration: 04:43 4 hrs ago
New York Post op-ed editor weighs in after Facebook and Twitter limit spread of Hunter Biden reports.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sohrab-ahmari-on-hunter-biden-emails-why-did-social-media-never-block-anti-trump-stories/vi-BB1a6sKC?ocid=msedgntp

If these emails are authenticated, Joe Biden needs to step out of race:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/if-these-emails-are-authenticated-joe-biden-needs-to-step-out-of-race-bongino/vi-BB1a5V3W?ocid=msedgntp

Twitter backtracks, allows users to post previously blocked NY Post article


The REAL Reason Liberal Megadonor George Soros Is Spending BIG
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1859122354226836

Nothing but conspiracy theories, I thought you were better than this, pathetic.

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jaawwnn said:

Well there is an argument i've heard quite a bit - and while I don't buy it 100% I certainly buy it to some degree - that Universities and the newspaper media (i.e. culture) are largely liberal and to the "left" while businesses who own all the money (i.e. economy) are very much to the right.

Personally i'd be more than happy to give up what happens in universities for what happens in business, I want the economy on the left, not the wishy washy academy no one pays any attention to except to stoke the fires of the culture wars.


Curious about your take on this:

What is the motivation of Bezos/Soros contributing to leftist organizations?

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Margot

slyjackson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:


George Soros 2016 Ukrain Hunter Biden billions of dollars pumped into the Democratic campaign 2020(by George Soros) Biden not questioned during the 'debate' about the emails Hunter Biden scandel censored by Twitter and Facebook Censoring of Political Speach etc

Backlash to Facebook and Twitter clampdown on NY Post story
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/backlash-to-facebook-and-twitter-clampdown-on-ny-post-story/ar-BB1a6BV0?ocid=msedgntp

Sohrab Ahmari on Hunter Biden emails:

Why did social media never block anti-Trump stories?

New York Post op-ed editor weighs in after Facebook and Twitter limit spread of Hunter Biden reports.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sohrab-ahmari-on-hunter-biden-emails-why-did-social-media-never-block-anti-trump-stories/vi-BB1a6sKC?ocid=msedgntp

If these emails are authenticated, Joe Biden needs to step out of race:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/if-these-emails-are-authenticated-joe-biden-needs-to-step-out-of-race-bongino/vi-BB1a5V3W?ocid=msedgntp

Twitter backtracks, allows users to post previously blocked NY Post article


The REAL Reason Liberal Megadonor George Soros Is Spending BIG
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1859122354226836

Nothing but conspiracy theories, I thought you were better than this, pathetic.

Please don't stop at attacking (that's easy)-give your reasoning as to why you feel as you do.

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George Soros 2016 Ukrain Hunter Biden billions of dollars pumped into the Democratic campaign 2020(by George Soros) Biden not questioned during the 'debate' about the emails Hunter Biden scandel censored by Twitter and Facebook Censoring of Political Speach etc

Backlash to Facebook and Twitter clampdown on NY Post story
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/backlash-to-facebook-and-twitter-clampdown-on-ny-post-story/ar-BB1a6BV0?ocid=msedgntp

Sohrab Ahmari on Hunter Biden emails:

Why did social media never block anti-Trump stories?

Duration: 04:43 4 hrs ago
New York Post op-ed editor weighs in after Facebook and Twitter limit spread of Hunter Biden reports.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sohrab-ahmari-on-hunter-biden-emails-why-did-social-media-never-block-anti-trump-stories/vi-BB1a6sKC?ocid=msedgntp

If these emails are authenticated, Joe Biden needs to step out of race:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/if-these-emails-are-authenticated-joe-biden-needs-to-step-out-of-race-bongino/vi-BB1a5V3W?ocid=msedgntp

Twitter backtracks, allows users to post previously blocked NY Post article


The REAL Reason Liberal Megadonor George Soros Is Spending BIG
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1859122354226836

Nothing but conspiracy theories, I thought you were better than this, pathetic.

bored This is not conspiracy, this is what actually happened... you really don't deserve me addressing you right now

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Much of the best reporting about the riots comes from "citizen journalists"
on the ground using little more than cell phone cameras.
Increasingly, they're out-competing "old" media:

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Tim Pool (New Media) comes straight from the source on the ground

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2719010081757372


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check this video out. This is a piece of what's happening on college campuses

and these kids turning adults... the crying, the hugs, pillows and vulgar communication.
I mean this is sad. It's very dangerous.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3222490731164870


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In all honesty i'd be inclined to say that her record speaks for itself when it comes to the black community.





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I've heard from people and read how colleges are just indoctrinating they youth with more far left ideals. Which that age range is very gullible.

Tell me some more about these "far left ideals" people are being indoctrinated with?





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Nothing but conspiracy theories, I thought you were better than this, pathetic.

bored This is not conspiracy, this is what actually happened... you really don't deserve me addressing you right now


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Well there is an argument i've heard quite a bit - and while I don't buy it 100% I certainly buy it to some degree - that Universities and the newspaper media (i.e. culture) are largely liberal and to the "left" while businesses who own all the money (i.e. economy) are very much to the right.

Personally i'd be more than happy to give up what happens in universities for what happens in business, I want the economy on the left, not the wishy washy academy no one pays any attention to except to stoke the fires of the culture wars.


Curious about your take on this:

What is the motivation of Bezos/Soros contributing to leftist organizations?

Well i'd say that neither fund "leftist" organizations as such.

Soros has spent years funding what you might call progressive organizations, pro-choice, pro-gay rights, that kind of thing, but he's not exactly funding anything that will tax him out of being a billionaire.

Bezos is notoriously anti-union and spends a lot of money crushing any attempt to unionise under him. He could never be described as "leftist".

I suppose Amazon are a good example of where most tech companies stand, they will support the progressive causes that don't affect their bottom line, it's just good business. It's not controversial for the majority of people under 40 in the west to be pro-gay rights or anti-racism, and they are the current and future spenders, tech companies follow that money.

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Curious about your take on this:

What is the motivation of Bezos/Soros contributing to leftist organizations?

Well i'd say that neither fund "leftist" organizations as such.

Soros has spent years funding what you might call progressive organizations, pro-choice, pro-gay rights, that kind of thing, but he's not exactly funding anything that will tax him out of being a billionaire.

Bezos is notoriously anti-union and spends a lot of money crushing any attempt to unionise under him. He could never be described as "leftist".

I suppose Amazon are a good example of where most tech companies stand, they will support the progressive causes that don't affect their bottom line, it's just good business. It's not controversial for the majority of people under 40 in the west to be pro-gay rights or anti-racism, and they are the current and future spenders, tech companies follow that money.

They love conspiracy theories, please don't take that away from them.

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Well i'd say that neither fund "leftist" organizations as such.

Soros has spent years funding what you might call progressive organizations, pro-choice, pro-gay rights, that kind of thing, but he's not exactly funding anything that will tax him out of being a billionaire.

Bezos is notoriously anti-union and spends a lot of money crushing any attempt to unionise under him. He could never be described as "leftist".

I suppose Amazon are a good example of where most tech companies stand, they will support the progressive causes that don't affect their bottom line, it's just good business. It's not controversial for the majority of people under 40 in the west to be pro-gay rights or anti-racism, and they are the current and future spenders, tech companies follow that money.

They love conspiracy theories, please don't take that away from them.

Margot seems genuine, if it's all a troll and i'm wasting my time then so be it, a lot of the time on here i'm just testing out my own ability to write about an issue coherently.

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They love conspiracy theories, please don't take that away from them.

Margot seems genuine, if it's all a troll and i'm wasting my time then so be it, a lot of the time on here i'm just testing out my own ability to write about an issue coherently.

Thanks for your analysis. It rings true.

I was trying to figure out why Amazon would suppress Shelby Steele's documentary. Perhaps, it was a business move, only...to show solidarity with the young, more liberal clientele.

BTW, I am the furthest from a troll, just thirsting for sane, intelligent conversation.

(This is just an aside, but someone said you were from Ireland. My father emigrated from Ireland at 29 and often bemoaned our 'poor' education; and, we attended 'good' schools. He did quite a bit of supplementation.)

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Margot seems genuine, if it's all a troll and i'm wasting my time then so be it, a lot of the time on here i'm just testing out my own ability to write about an issue coherently.

Thanks for your analysis. It rings true.

I was trying to figure out why Amazon would suppress Shelby Steele's documentary. Perhaps, it was a business move, only...to show solidarity with the young, more liberal clientele.

BTW, I am the furthest from a troll, just thirsting for sane, intelligent conversation.

(This is just an aside, but someone said you were from Ireland. My father emigrated from Ireland at 29 and often bemoaned our 'poor' education; and, we attended 'good' schools. He did quite a bit of supplementation.)

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Any idea where from? I don't really know enough about the US education system to comment, but i'm sure I could moan about the Irish one for a while lol

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Senate Judiciary approves subpoenas for Twitter, Facebook CEOs over bias chargesBy Cristiano Lima 3 hrs ago

Pelosi shuts down reporter asking question on Joe Biden's 'corruption'

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Senate Judiciary approves subpoenas for Twitter, Facebook CEOs over bias charges

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday voted to subpoena Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to testify about allegations of anti-conservative bias, ratcheting up GOP pressure on the social media companies' content policies before the November elections.



How the vote went down: The Judiciary Committee voted 12-0 to authorize the subpoenas, with all Judiciary Republicans voting in favor. Democrats boycotted the session over a separate vote on Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett. Facebook and Twitter have faced mounting criticism from President Donald Trump and his Republican allies for limiting the spread of disputed New York Post reports about Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and his son.

Chair Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Thursday that he hoped the move would give the committee "some leverage to secure their testimony." A Judiciary spokesperson had said late Wednesday that the committee is still negotiating with the companies for the CEOs to possibly appear voluntarily, instead of by subpoena.

The panel has not set a date for the hearing, but Judiciary Republican leaders have expressed desire to haul in the CEOs ahead of the November elections to face questions on charges their platforms stifle conservative viewpoints. "One way or another, either voluntarily or pursuant to subpoena, they will testify and they will testify before the election," Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said Monday.

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), an outspoken tech critic, told Fox News on Thursday he hopes the committee will "subpoena them to come next week."

Spokespeople for Twitter and Facebook declined to comment Thursday. The companies deny the bias charges....

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp
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Twitter Accused of 'Throttling Online Donations' to Republican Fundraising Platform by 'Censoring' LinksJason Murdock 6 hrs ago

Pelosi shuts down reporter asking question on Joe Biden's 'corruption'

Billboard Latin Music Awards: Luis Fonsi, Paulina Rubio, and more on the...

Twitter Accused of 'Throttling Online Donations' to Republican Fundraising Platform by 'Censoring' Links

Twitter has been accused of "throttling online donations" to Republicans after "censoring" links to a political fundraising website.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp

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jaawwnn said:

Margot said:

Thanks for your analysis. It rings true.

I was trying to figure out why Amazon would suppress Shelby Steele's documentary. Perhaps, it was a business move, only...to show solidarity with the young, more liberal clientele.

BTW, I am the furthest from a troll, just thirsting for sane, intelligent conversation.

(This is just an aside, but someone said you were from Ireland. My father emigrated from Ireland at 29 and often bemoaned our 'poor' education; and, we attended 'good' schools. He did quite a bit of supplementation.)

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Any idea where from? I don't really know enough about the US education system to comment, but i'm sure I could moan about the Irish one for a while lol

He was raised in Co. Limerick on a dairy farm. The mailing address was Knockcarron, Knocklong.

He returned in his later years and lived in Cork.

What I found interesting was that each of the 5 siblings were given a pre-determined role- Nun, teacher, doctor, nurse; the eldest son inherited the farm.

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Any idea where from? I don't really know enough about the US education system to comment, but i'm sure I could moan about the Irish one for a while lol

He was raised in Co. Limerick on a dairy farm. The mailing address was Knockcarron, Knocklong.

He returned in his later years and lived in Cork.

What I found interesting was that each of the 5 siblings were given a pre-determined role- Nun, teacher, doctor, nurse; the eldest son inherited the farm.

Ah Limerick, i've never been to Knockcarron but my grandparents on one side are from what looks like (using google maps) a very similar inland area in Kerry.

My Kerry grandfather used to have a great story about when he was very young and his family were asked to start using money lol .

For many, the only way out of the farm for those who couldn't afford education was, a) emigrate, b) join the Police or c) become a Psychiatric Nurse (that i'm fairly sure in those days was mostly very similar to being a prison guard).

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He was raised in Co. Limerick on a dairy farm. The mailing address was Knockcarron, Knocklong.

He returned in his later years and lived in Cork.

What I found interesting was that each of the 5 siblings were given a pre-determined role- Nun, teacher, doctor, nurse; the eldest son inherited the farm.

Ah Limerick, i've never been to Knockcarron but my grandparents on one side are from what looks like (using google maps) a very similar inland area in Kerry.

My Kerry grandfather used to have a great story about when he was very young and his family were asked to start using money lol .

For many, the only way out of the farm for those who couldn't afford education was, a) emigrate, b) join the Police or c) become a Psychiatric Nurse (that i'm fairly sure in those days was mostly very similar to being a prison guard).

biggrin ' Psychiatric nurse.'

Love the Irish. My daughter and I visited recently and were in a pub drinking beer...the bartender noticed her mug had more beer and he playfully admonished her, "you should be ashamed of yourself your mother is out-drinking ya".

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