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Reply #240 posted 10/17/20 4:20pm

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Trump = flipped off

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Reply #241 posted 10/17/20 4:24pm

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I don't think any of us here are surprised that the right wingers who have ran here breathlessly to defend Trump, while claiming they don't like him, voted for Trump.

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It's been obvious who they supported, while pretending they didn't like the boy they had a crush on lol

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Reply #242 posted 10/17/20 4:36pm

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I'm for ending the drug war, completely legalizing marijua/hemp across the board and decriminalizing all drugs.

I'm anti-war and want to bring troops home rather than police the world.

I'm against the prison-industrial complex, the corporate-industrial complex, the military-industrial complex and the pharmaceutical-industrial complex.

I'm pro RIGHTS. Gay rights, women's rights, people of color's rights, EVERYONE's rights... For the rights of EVERYONE to be protected with equality.

I believe the key to making our society better is to lift up the lowest parts with increased opportunities, better education, community support, and meeting the immediate needs of those that are unable to provide for themselves.

I'm against hate. I believe racial supremacists are all either evil or stupid. I believe racial differences such as skin color are as insignificant to us as the HUMAN race as our eye color or hair color.

I am against facists, and ANYONE who uses authoritarian methods to achieve their goals.

Which part of that is right wing?

Oh I know, it's because I defend the Constitution, the Bill Of Rights and especially the 1st and 2nd Amendments, isn't it?

Compared to the Democrats, that IS "right wing". lol






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Reply #243 posted 10/17/20 5:16pm

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djThunderfunk said:

I'm for ending the drug war, completely legalizing marijua/hemp across the board and decriminalizing all drugs.

I'm anti-war and want to bring troops home rather than police the world.

I'm against the prison-industrial complex, the corporate-industrial complex, the military-industrial complex and the pharmaceutical-industrial complex.

I'm pro RIGHTS. Gay rights, women's rights, people of color's rights, EVERYONE's rights... For the rights of EVERYONE to be protected with equality.

I believe the key to making our society better is to lift up the lowest parts with increased opportunities, better education, community support, and meeting the immediate needs of those that are unable to provide for themselves.

I'm against hate. I believe racial supremacists are all either evil or stupid. I believe racial differences such as skin color are as insignificant to us as the HUMAN race as our eye color or hair color.

I am against facists, and ANYONE who uses authoritarian methods to achieve their goals.

Which part of that is right wing?

Oh I know, it's because I defend the Constitution, the Bill Of Rights and especially the 1st and 2nd Amendments, isn't it?

Compared to the Democrats, that IS "right wing". lol

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The topic is this year's election not you. What you have defended trump doing and how many times you have said this time you are voting for trump is the important issue, not your opinion on off topic issues.

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Reply #244 posted 10/17/20 5:22pm

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IanRG said:

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The topic is this year's election not you. What you have defended trump doing and how many times you have said this time you are voting for trump is the important issue, not your opinion on off topic issues.

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Hint and a half for ya, genius...

If you and/or others can take the time to post false claims ABOUT me then you just made it on topic for me to defend and debunk your nonsense.

Now stop wasting everyone's time trying to bait me into personal bickering bullshit and ignore my posts if they bother you so much, but don't try to wannabe-mod me. I ain't havin' it.

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Reply #245 posted 10/17/20 5:34pm

IanRG

djThunderfunk said:

IanRG said:

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The topic is this year's election not you. What you have defended trump doing and how many times you have said this time you are voting for trump is the important issue, not your opinion on off topic issues.

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Hint and a half for ya, genius...

If you and/or others can take the time to post false claims ABOUT me then you just made it on topic for me to defend and debunk your nonsense.

Now stop wasting everyone's time trying to bait me into personal bickering bullshit and ignore my posts if they bother you so much, but don't try to wannabe-mod me. I ain't havin' it.

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When you have defended trump at every issue and you have stated that this time you are voting to support trump since 2016, pointing this out is not a false claim, it is a fact.

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Seeking to end your attempts to get the thread locked because it is not going so well for your guy is not anyone being a wannabe mod. It is seeking to bring the topic back to the topic so you don't get another thread locked.

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Reply #246 posted 10/17/20 6:15pm

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Stay on topic.

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Reply #247 posted 10/17/20 6:36pm

IanRG

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Stay on topic.

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Sure, a key issue with the election outcome will be all the "shy republicans" that pretend to not be republicans on social media and voted for trump. The "I am an not a supporter of trump but ..." mob.

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My view is that whilst these, together with those turned off by Hillary, gave trump his first term, it is much less likely to give him a second term. trump has moved from an unknown outside of the beltway bubble, to being the swamp. His successes are few, partisan and are generally undone or overshadowed by his failures. Outside of his cult base, he is increasingly looking desparate with moves like it is suburban women and big tech's fault.

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Reply #248 posted 10/17/20 8:28pm

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falloff

What could possibly be gained from "pretending to not be Republican" and then openly saying I voted for him as the lesser of 2 evils?!?

If I was trying to fool you, to what end? And why? Of what benefit might it be for me to attempt to decieve you about my past voting when being open about my current voting. What makes you so special that you would be worth such an effort?

I don't care if other Americans don't like how I vote, so I sure don't give a shit what you think. lol



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Reply #249 posted 10/17/20 8:39pm

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I would vote for the Devil himself if it meant getting Trump out of office.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #250 posted 10/17/20 9:16pm

IanRG

djThunderfunk said:

falloff

What could possibly be gained from "pretending to not be Republican" and then openly saying I voted for him as the lesser of 2 evils?!?

If I was trying to fool you, to what end? And why? Of what benefit might it be for me to attempt to decieve you about my past voting when being open about my current voting. What makes you so special that you would be worth such an effort?

I don't care if other Americans don't like how I vote, so I sure don't give a shit what you think. lol



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It is not about you and I agree, your posts fool no one, have no legitimate end or point: Why on earth are you doing this? I already pointed out that what you did last century is totally irrelevant but you can't let it go.

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Back to the topic: The existence of the shy republican is real and it affected the polls in 2016. That there are people that say "I am not a trump supporter but I like ..., or I voted for him because ..." is real and they are almost always just a form of shy republican. We see the same effect in Australia where it is "I am not a One Nation supporter but ...". It is a real issue in the conservative parties as they shift further and further to the far right and see their primary vote fall as a result. They then seek to rely on voter suppression, chicanery with things like October surprises, scare tactics on law and order and accusations of socialism together with working in cahoots with people like Murdoch and the far right extremist websites like Breitbart, Alex Jones and Q Anon related conspiracy theory sites.

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If you don't care don't reply.

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Reply #251 posted 10/18/20 4:55am

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djThunderfunk said:

falloff

What could possibly be gained from "pretending to not be Republican" and then openly saying I voted for him as the lesser of 2 evils?!?

If I was trying to fool you, to what end? And why? Of what benefit might it be for me to attempt to decieve you about my past voting when being open about my current voting. What makes you so special that you would be worth such an effort?

I don't care if other Americans don't like how I vote, so I sure don't give a shit what you think. lol



You tell us. And no one said Republican. You have alwasys claimed to be a libertarian who pretended not to like Trump

lol

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Reply #252 posted 10/18/20 6:35am

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v10letblues said:

djThunderfunk said:

falloff

What could possibly be gained from "pretending to not be Republican" and then openly saying I voted for him as the lesser of 2 evils?!?

If I was trying to fool you, to what end? And why? Of what benefit might it be for me to attempt to decieve you about my past voting when being open about my current voting. What makes you so special that you would be worth such an effort?

I don't care if other Americans don't like how I vote, so I sure don't give a shit what you think. lol



You tell us. And no one said Republican. You have alwasys claimed to be a libertarian who pretended not to like Trump

lol


You're the one that claimed I'm a "right-winger", how are the values I listed above right wing?

They're not. They're liberal.

What's the matter? Can't get your head around the reality that tradional liberals would actually find Trump the lesser of 2 evils compared to what the democrats are offering?

I would like nothing more than for the Democrats to reject the extreme left and offer some moderate candidates so I can get back to voting my conscience and stick with Independent nominees.

Many people feel this way. Get over it. Or blame the Democrats for capitulating to the far left. It's not our fault that Trump is the moderate choice this year. It's the Dems embracing those that use racism to fight racism and facism to fight facism.

Seems like you really want to believe that every one that votes for Trump is some far right nazi so it'll be easier for you to "other" them, to hate them, to go out in the streets and punch them (or support someone else who does from your couch). Sorry. You are wrong. You have been misled and your hatred is misplaced.


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Reply #253 posted 10/18/20 7:27am

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it is funny and scary to see some go so far to justify a biden vote. It is like 2016 all over they can only see the fault in trump much of which is less justified... in both cases trump's opponent is known to have broken laws... and those are ignored. in both cases both of his opponents are on video committing or admitting (Boasting even) how they broke laws for their personal gain...

It is easy to say "yeah joe abuses him power to get his son out of trouble... and to et hom that job in thr first palce... and sure he had to admit he had a history of harassment of woman... and sure he is on video feeling on children... (and if he does that in the open what does he do in private?)...but trump is worst..." and at least i could say "well you're honest."

as for me: i can not support either...(which is easy as if he need my vote to win my state he is not going to win anyway)

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Reply #254 posted 10/18/20 7:39am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

it is funny and scary to see some go so far to justify a biden vote. It is like 2016 all over they can only see the fault in trump much of which is less justified... in both cases trump's opponent is known to have broken laws... and those are ignored. in both cases both of his opponents are on video committing or admitting (Boasting even) how they broke laws for their personal gain...

It is easy to say "yeah joe abuses him power to get his son out of trouble... and to et hom that job in thr first palce... and sure he had to admit he had a history of harassment of woman... and sure he is on video feeling on children... (and if he does that in the open what does he do in private?)...but trump is worst..." and at least i could say "well you're honest."

as for me: i can not support either...(which is easy as if he need my vote to win my state he is not going to win anyway)

We don't have to justify a vote for Biden, just like they don't have to justify a vote for Trump. But don't come on here and lie for the past 4 years that you don't support trump..yet defend him at every turn.

My vote will cancel his vote, and you simply didn't vote for President...so don't be complaining that your guy didn't get in.

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Reply #255 posted 10/18/20 8:07am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

it is funny and scary to see some go so far to justify a biden vote. It is like 2016 all over they can only see the fault in trump much of which is less justified... in both cases trump's opponent is known to have broken laws... and those are ignored. in both cases both of his opponents are on video committing or admitting (Boasting even) how they broke laws for their personal gain...

It is easy to say "yeah joe abuses him power to get his son out of trouble... and to et hom that job in thr first palce... and sure he had to admit he had a history of harassment of woman... and sure he is on video feeling on children... (and if he does that in the open what does he do in private?)...but trump is worst..." and at least i could say "well you're honest."

as for me: i can not support either...(which is easy as if he need my vote to win my state he is not going to win anyway)

it's even funnier the the lenghts you people go to defend and justify Trump.

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Enough said.

*mike drop. walks away laughing

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Reply #256 posted 10/18/20 8:10am

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Trump *joked that he would flee the US if he lost to Biden.

...and that it would be losing to the worst candidate ever

........admitting, acknowloging you are losing to the *worst candidate ever, explicitly means you are EVEN WORSE!

lol

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Reply #257 posted 10/18/20 10:16am

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it is funny and scary to see some go so far to justify a biden vote. It is like 2016 all over they can only see the fault in trump much of which is less justified... in both cases trump's opponent is known to have broken laws... and those are ignored. in both cases both of his opponents are on video committing or admitting (Boasting even) how they broke laws for their personal gain...

It is easy to say "yeah joe abuses him power to get his son out of trouble... and to et hom that job in thr first palce... and sure he had to admit he had a history of harassment of woman... and sure he is on video feeling on children... (and if he does that in the open what does he do in private?)...but trump is worst..." and at least i could say "well you're honest."

as for me: i can not support either...(which is easy as if he need my vote to win my state he is not going to win anyway)

We don't have to justify a vote for Biden, just like they don't have to justify a vote for Trump. But don't come on here and lie for the past 4 years that you don't support trump..yet defend him at every turn.

My vote will cancel his vote, and you simply didn't vote for President...so don't be complaining that your guy didn't get in.

amazing every word you just said was wrong.

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Reply #258 posted 10/18/20 10:24am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

We don't have to justify a vote for Biden, just like they don't have to justify a vote for Trump. But don't come on here and lie for the past 4 years that you don't support trump..yet defend him at every turn.

My vote will cancel his vote, and you simply didn't vote for President...so don't be complaining that your guy didn't get in.

amazing every word you just said was wrong.

You did not vote for President.

Those are your words.

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Reply #259 posted 10/18/20 10:24am

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v10letblues said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it is funny and scary to see some go so far to justify a biden vote. It is like 2016 all over they can only see the fault in trump much of which is less justified... in both cases trump's opponent is known to have broken laws... and those are ignored. in both cases both of his opponents are on video committing or admitting (Boasting even) how they broke laws for their personal gain...

It is easy to say "yeah joe abuses him power to get his son out of trouble... and to et hom that job in thr first palce... and sure he had to admit he had a history of harassment of woman... and sure he is on video feeling on children... (and if he does that in the open what does he do in private?)...but trump is worst..." and at least i could say "well you're honest."

as for me: i can not support either...(which is easy as if he need my vote to win my state he is not going to win anyway)

it's even funnier the the lenghts you people go to defend and justify Trump.

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Enough said.

*mike drop. walks away laughing

except not: see I know trump has yuge issues. I have not deafened him at every turn. I have corrected falsehoods.

Can you admit that joe has said racist things?

can you admit JOE has violated woman and little girls--Touching and Sniffing and the like?

Can you admit he was out of line with the billion dollar Ukraine thing to fire the person investigating the company his son worked for?

Do you agree with hunter that the only reason he got that job was of who his daddy was?

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Reply #260 posted 10/18/20 10:27am

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

amazing every word you just said was wrong.

You did not vote for President.

Those are your words.

yeah I could have voted for a 3rd party.... I chose not to. but I did sumit a ballot. So YES I can compain or have a voice. if that is the standard why are you not telling active partipants in this topic who will also not vote but like you hate trump.

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Reply #261 posted 10/18/20 11:16am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

We don't have to justify a vote for Biden, just like they don't have to justify a vote for Trump. But don't come on here and lie for the past 4 years that you don't support trump..yet defend him at every turn.

My vote will cancel his vote, and you simply didn't vote for President...so don't be complaining that your guy didn't get in.

amazing every word you just said was wrong.


Right?

Like something could be gained from lying about political motivations or opinions on a Prince fansite. lol

I only like and strongly support one politician at the moment, and that's Rand Paul.

Of course they hate him too. They all cheered on his attacker and ignored his Justice For Breonna bill to end no-knock raids.



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Reply #262 posted 10/18/20 2:02pm

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4 years in and still no sign of the "third world dictator" bullshit they've been fearmongering about. lol

What a fool, more than fool actually. So what is all that he has been trying to do over and over again, what is him saying over and over again that there will be a fraud is he doesn't win with no solid proof to back it up his speech?

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Reply #263 posted 10/18/20 2:04pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

slyjackson said:

That doesn't prove a shit, of course it's weird and doesn't look any good, but that0s as far as it goes, again you area big hypocrite and liar just as the shit you so vehemently defend but deny it.

so you at least admit you know what I am talking about and that it is a the very least questionable! And for me it is a deal breaker. Just like the bus tape was a deal breaker! just like him saying illegals are criminals. Just like several other things were deal breakers...

other deal breakers for peJoe: his qui pro quo to get the person investigating his son fired was a deal breaker...

his racist comments... deal breakers

his clear declining mental capacity.


But I LOVE being attacked for not supporting such a person... if not supporting the election of a sexual predator makes me a coward. cool.


You're just worse much worse than a coward. You've go not deal breaker with Trump you're a supporter, you don't fool anyone.

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Reply #264 posted 10/18/20 2:05pm

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Nice narrative. Bullshit, but whatevs.

The far left, and every democrat that supports them, incites hate towards fellow Americans.
The Democrats have indicated they will not accept election results if Trump wins. indeed, they still haven't accepted 2016.
EVERYBODY pardons convicted cronies. Republicans AND Democrats.
Pelosi AND Biden have attacked the free press THIS VERY WEEK.

Fail.

The only bullshit here is you, once again despicable.

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Reply #265 posted 10/18/20 2:07pm

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djThunderfunk said:

As a registered Independent voter I happily reject the Republican and Democrat parties every 4 years, usally voting Libertarian and sometimes Green parties. When both parties are at least trying to appear moderate, it's easy to follow my conscience and avoid that lesser of 2 evils false two party paradigm.

But when the Democrats swing far left, embracing their extreme idealogies, I no longer have that luxury.

It's messed up when a clown like Donald Trump is the only moderate choice but that's where we are so I did what everybody else does, what everybody insists I do to not "throw away" my vote, and voted for the lesser of 2 evils.

Maybe in 2024 the Democrats will get back to the center and reject extremists so I can get back to voting my conscience and vote for an Independent party again like I have since Perot. But that does NOT seem to be the trajectory.

So in the meantime I'll vote for whomever is more likely to defend the 1st and 2nd amendments and against anyone that thinks there should be more limits place on them.


Don't ever try to tell us again that your not a Trumpster.

It's been clear for a long time, these Trump supporters deniers are tof the worse kind, they all are despicable people.

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Reply #266 posted 10/18/20 2:10pm

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IanRG said:

You already said in too many previous elections that you normally vote independent and even said of the majors you normally vote Democrat but (yet again) this time you will vote republican because Obama wants to ..., Hillary exists, the Democrats want a trump bill to be better and not just a third world dictator pay off for his cronies etc etc etc.


Never voted for a Republican for President before in my life. Until today that is.

Democrats in 1988 then Independent or Libertarian or Green parties ever since. Until today.


Lies, a liar just as the one piece of shit you so much adore and idolize.

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Reply #267 posted 10/18/20 2:14pm

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I would vote for the Devil himself if it meant getting Trump out of office.

Thank you for your vote.

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Reply #268 posted 10/18/20 2:18pm

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v10letblues said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

it is funny and scary to see some go so far to justify a biden vote. It is like 2016 all over they can only see the fault in trump much of which is less justified... in both cases trump's opponent is known to have broken laws... and those are ignored. in both cases both of his opponents are on video committing or admitting (Boasting even) how they broke laws for their personal gain...

It is easy to say "yeah joe abuses him power to get his son out of trouble... and to et hom that job in thr first palce... and sure he had to admit he had a history of harassment of woman... and sure he is on video feeling on children... (and if he does that in the open what does he do in private?)...but trump is worst..." and at least i could say "well you're honest."

as for me: i can not support either...(which is easy as if he need my vote to win my state he is not going to win anyway)

it's even funnier the the lenghts you people go to defend and justify Trump.

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Enough said.

*mike drop. walks away laughing

He's much worse than Biden couuld ever be, and yes they go over extremes to defend him like that pathetic only here and worse the AMERICAN1ST which is worse than only but I suspect they are one and the same.

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Reply #269 posted 10/18/20 2:25pm

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slyjackson said:

djThunderfunk said:


Never voted for a Republican for President before in my life. Until today that is.

Democrats in 1988 then Independent or Libertarian or Green parties ever since. Until today.


Lies, a liar just as the one piece of shit you so much adore and idolize.


falloff Right. I don't care that you know I voted for Trump this year or why, but for some reason I don't want you to know who I really voted for the last 8 times. Sure. That makes sense. That'll show you. lol lol


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