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Reply #150 posted 10/01/20 6:11pm

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expect mutiple investigations into tax fraud and money laundering into trump after the election.

And with trump out of office and his rats looking to save their own necks, loose lips will further sink his ship.

its going to be nasty.

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Reply #151 posted 10/01/20 6:16pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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v10letblues said:

expect mutiple investigations into tax fraud and money laundering into trump after the election.

And with trump out of office and his rats looking to save their own necks, loose lips will further sink his ship.

its going to be nasty.

not

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Reply #152 posted 10/01/20 7:04pm

JoeyC

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Astasheiks said:

benni said:

Trump looks pretty resigned here:


https://www.facebook.com/...0cTeNLhSV1

He looks like a defeated dog! smile razz

i usually don't say stuff like this(stank comment), but fuck trump. Dude looks like he stinks. if he was poor or middle class and wearing jeans and a tee shirt, and acting like he does, people would avoid him like the plague. He'd be like one of them incel people or a male cat lady. wink eek cool



Fuck $750! flag


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Reply #153 posted 10/01/20 7:19pm

IanRG

OnlyNDaUsa said:

v10letblues said:

expect mutiple investigations into tax fraud and money laundering into trump after the election.

And with trump out of office and his rats looking to save their own necks, loose lips will further sink his ship.

its going to be nasty.

not

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Even if it does not, we can expect yet another round trump businesses going backrupt and the rest going through dubious refinancing arrangements due to his high debt and miss-management.

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Reply #154 posted 10/02/20 10:04am

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Oh, Ivanka! lol

https://www.cnn.com/2020/...gfooterold


"Mr. Trump reduced his taxable income by treating a family member as a consultant, and then deducting the fee as a cost of doing business.


"The 'consultants' are not identified in the tax records. But evidence of this arrangement was gleaned by comparing the confidential tax records to the financial disclosures Ivanka Trump filed when she joined the White House staff in 2017. Ms. Trump reported receiving payments from a consulting company she co-owned, totaling $747,622, that exactly matched consulting fees claimed as tax deductions by the Trump Organization for hotel projects in Vancouver and Hawaii.

"Ms. Trump had been an executive officer of the Trump companies that received profits from and paid the consulting fees for both projects — meaning she appears to have been treated as a consultant on the same hotel deals that she helped manage as part of her job at her father's business."
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Reply #155 posted 10/03/20 1:10am

SoulAlive

the lovely and very talented Stormy Daniels (Trump's former mistress)

Image may contain: 1 person, meme, text that says 'I GOT MORE MONEY OUT OF DONALD TRUMP AM WARD igfip THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOT IN 10 YEARS.'

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Reply #156 posted 10/03/20 7:17am

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You cannot say you used the system but say you are against that same system. Bernie Sanders is at least consistant.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #157 posted 10/03/20 11:33am

v10letblues

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2freaky4church1 said:

You cannot say you used the system but say you are against that same system. Bernie Sanders is at least consistant.

Say what you want about Bernies political views, but he seems like a decent human being compared to most everyone else in politics.

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Reply #158 posted 10/03/20 4:50pm

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v10letblues said:

2freaky4church1 said:

You cannot say you used the system but say you are against that same system. Bernie Sanders is at least consistant.

Say what you want about Bernies political views, but he seems like a decent human being compared to most everyone else in politics.

nod

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Reply #159 posted 10/04/20 6:34pm

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tax experts are saying it is all legit and nothing that looks like it could be a crime. the IRS may ask for some support but everything they see in what was illegally published is well within the law and in fact he seems to have been on the safe side.

a few points: paying his wife a consulting fee is legal and that all the taxes would be paid on that in fact it was likely a net tax increase.

the $750 was likley not a tax bill...

all the taxes and loses and depreciation will all get taxed someday...

the losses are roll overs which even normal people do....

point by point there was nothing at all criminal

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Reply #160 posted 10/04/20 7:05pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

tax experts are saying it is all legit and nothing that looks like it could be a crime. the IRS may ask for some support but everything they see in what was illegally published is well within the law and in fact he seems to have been on the safe side.

a few points: paying his wife a consulting fee is legal and that all the taxes would be paid on that in fact it was likely a net tax increase.

the $750 was likley not a tax bill...

all the taxes and loses and depreciation will all get taxed someday...

the losses are roll overs which even normal people do....

point by point there was nothing at all criminal

Tax experts say otherwise.

The IRS is full of tax experts (wild hunch). They have yet to clear him of tax fraud.

Tax experts expect trump to be charged with fraud and possibly face prison after the election when is not protected by the office for prosecution.

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Reply #161 posted 10/04/20 7:08pm

IanRG

OnlyNDaUsa said:

tax experts are saying it is all legit and nothing that looks like it could be a crime. the IRS may ask for some support but everything they see in what was illegally published is well within the law and in fact he seems to have been on the safe side.

a few points: paying his wife a consulting fee is legal and that all the taxes would be paid on that in fact it was likely a net tax increase.

the $750 was likley not a tax bill...

all the taxes and loses and depreciation will all get taxed someday...

the losses are roll overs which even normal people do....

point by point there was nothing at all criminal

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Unless it is proven that he commited tax evasion and fraud by overstating deductions, adjustments and credits or understating income - The very things you said were not crimes.

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And this from a long retired H&R Block temp with a self-confessed inability to do their own taxes without regular basic corrections by the IRS.

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Reply #162 posted 10/09/20 11:09am

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Tax records expose more than $21 million in highly unusual payments from the Las Vegas hotel Donald Trump owns with Phil Ruffin, routed through other Trump companies and paid out in cash.

Donald J. Trump needed money.

His “self-funded” presidential campaign was short on funds, and he was struggling to win over leery Republican donors. His golf courses and the hotel he would soon open in the Old Post Office in Washington were eating away at what cash he had left on hand, his tax records show.

And in early 2016, Deutsche Bank, the last big lender still doing business with him, unexpectedly turned down his request for a loan. The funds, Mr. Trump had told his bankers, would help shore up his Turnberry golf resort in Scotland. Some bankers feared the money would instead be diverted to his campaign.

That January, Mr. Trump sold a lot of stock — $11.1 million worth. He sold another $11.8 million worth in February, and $7.5 million in March. In April, he sold $8.1 million more.

And the president’s long-hidden tax records, ...ork Times, also reveal this: how he engineered a sudden financial windfall — more than $21 million in what experts describe as highly unusual one-off payments from the Las Vegas hotel he owns with his friend the casino mogul Phil Ruffin.

In previous articles on the tax records, The Times has reported that, in all but a few years since 2000, chronic business losses and aggressive accounting strategies have allowed Mr. Trump to largely avoid paying federal income taxes. And while the hundreds of millions of dollars earned from “The Apprentice” and his attendant celebrity rescued his business career, those riches, together with the marketing power of the Trump brand, were ebbing when he announced his 2016 presidential run.

The new findings, part of The Times’s continuing investigation, cast light on Mr. Trump’s financial maneuverings in that time of fiscal turmoil and unlikely political victory. Indeed, they may offer a hint to one of the enduring mysteries of his campaign: In its waning days, as his own giving had slowed to a trickle, Mr. Trump contributed $10 million, leaving many people wondering where the burst of cash had come from.

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Reply #163 posted 10/12/20 8:54am

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I think it was in this thread that someone was laughing in my face at the idea that radical centrism could exist, here's the much missed David Graeber briefly discussing the idea eloquently.

"I think people ought to know that we're anti-fascist, we're anti-violence, we're anti-racist and we're pro-creative. We're against ignorance."
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Reply #164 posted 10/12/20 8:21pm

SoulAlive

in any case,Trump should be scared.The chickens are coming home to roost.
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Reply #165 posted 10/12/20 9:06pm

SoulAlive

v10letblues said:

expect mutiple investigations into tax fraud and money laundering into trump after the election.


And with trump out of office and his rats looking to save their own necks, loose lips will further sink his ship.


its going to be nasty.



Yeah,this could get ugly for him.
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Reply #166 posted 10/13/20 10:36am

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SoulAlive said:

v10letblues said:

expect mutiple investigations into tax fraud and money laundering into trump after the election.


And with trump out of office and his rats looking to save their own necks, loose lips will further sink his ship.


its going to be nasty.



Yeah,this could get ugly for him.

His orange jumpsuit patiently waiting for him.
Always smile in the face of adversity. smile
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#PRESIDENT-ELECT JOE BIDEN & VICE PRESIDENT-ELECT KAMALA HARRIS!! 2021
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Reply #167 posted 10/13/20 12:00pm

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jaawwnn said:

I think it was in this thread that someone was laughing in my face at the idea that radical centrism could exist, here's the much missed David Graeber briefly discussing the idea eloquently.

Thanks for the link, he was a great man. The video below it by George Monbiot below it was an interesting watch too.

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Reply #168 posted 10/13/20 1:08pm

SoulAlive

JoeyC said:

Astasheiks said:

He looks like a defeated dog! smile razz

i usually don't say stuff like this(stank comment), but fuck trump. Dude looks like he stinks. if he was poor or middle class and wearing jeans and a tee shirt, and acting like he does, people would avoid him like the plague. He'd be like one of them incel people or a male cat lady. wink eek cool



Fuck $750! flag


lol

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Reply #169 posted 10/13/20 2:21pm

SoulAlive

2elijah said:

SoulAlive said:
Yeah,this could get ugly for him.
His orange jumpsuit patiently waiting for him.

lol

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Reply #170 posted 10/19/20 12:54pm

TruthBomb

Yep Good thing Joe Biden looks good in orange

SoulAlive said:



2elijah said:


SoulAlive said:
Yeah,this could get ugly for him.

His orange jumpsuit patiently waiting for him.


lol

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Reply #171 posted 10/29/20 5:45pm

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TruthBomb said:

Yep Good thing Joe Biden looks good in orange SoulAlive said:

Only in your dreams.

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Reply #172 posted 10/30/20 4:16am

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again there is nothing that seems illegal in any of this (Other than it was stolen and then published). Keep in mind the data stolen and illegaly published was all subject to audit and seems to have not lead to any charges.

Also: unlike many other laws having advice that a given deduction or adjustment (etc) is legal IS a defence.

Also: there is a different standard of proff to jump from avoidance *legal, moral, and within tax policy* (unless you do not take any deduction or adjustments for which you are eligible and thus AVOID paying MORE tax than required you must agree) to evasion, illegal, is wide. The Tax Law is complex and the ambiguity goes to the filer.

Also contrary to wishful thinking: paying another person big bucks and claiming that against profits is not illegal or a violation of tax code. Also as it seems the loses are paper losses where he deprecated real assets and rolls those losses over is not a crime or violation of tax code.


People make up in their minds that because the numbers are big (they get jealous) and because they only have a very small, likey cherry picked set of data, that these amounts tell the whole story: Like I said and as Trump said weeks later it was just a fee. People without also fail to grasp that what taxes are left unpaid today will come due at some point--and will get paid someday by someone.

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Reply #173 posted 10/30/20 4:21am

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But but but Biden's son made big money he didn't DESERVE! FOX NEWS ALERT!

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FOX NEWS ALERT!

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Let's focus on someone elses shady money now THAT"S NEWS!

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Reply #174 posted 10/30/20 4:26am

OnlyNDaUsa

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PennyPurple said:

TruthBomb said:

Yep Good thing Joe Biden looks good in orange SoulAlive said:

Only in your dreams.

Joe admitted publicly that he held federal aide to get someone fired as to stop an investigation that would have likely implicated his son (who would later agree that the reason he got the job was as a favor to his dad)... and then they impeached trump for just asking for that investigation to be re-opened.

oh I forgot they would have to prove trump lied to NOT pay taxes he owed to get him on evasion. even if he overstated the IRS would have convince a judge he did and then that TRUMP did it outside of tax advice and with the intent to not pay taxes due. So far at worst he just moved paying forwards in time: (Ex: say he deprecates a building to create a loss. When that building is sold he has to pay much more in capital gains. when he pays his wife big bucks to consult him again that acutaly creates MORE taxes paid as now she has to pay taxes that money as income and it is taxed 3 times on the federal level too which is more that the corporate rate he would have otherwise paid.)

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