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2freaky4church
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Conservatism is the problem, not just Trumpers.

Guess who wrote this:

"There are 500,000 people on relief in New York today… what do they contribute materially to New York? It costs a minimum of $700 to furnish public school education for a child in New York. It costs about $500 per year per person for those on relief; and that much again for public housing. What is the residual benefit to New Yorkers of the sacrifices they endure in order to attract to this city men, women, and children who, in this city—as distinguished from elsewhere—are unemployable, and become structural welfarists?… [H]aving got their vote, the politicians let them institutionalize themselves as social derelicts, at liberty to breed children who, suffering from inherited disadvantages, alternatively seek surcease in hyperstimulation—in crime and narcotics—and in indolence—as school dropouts or as poolhall conscientious objectors to work…"

Not the Nazi official, but our friend William F. Buckley Jr. The good conservative. He sounds a lot like the worst of the right wing swamp but this guy was heralded as the bastion of good taste, manners, and honorable debate. The cess pool of their ideology is the issue. Trump is an easy target. Zombies can have a pedagree as well.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 09/12/20 3:35pm

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Fascism is a far left ideology...the true spectrum is


Extreme oppressive government in the hands of a VERY few (the left) to a state of nature (the right)


both suck... but yeah fascism is way to the left and anarchy is far right... (and no one wants anarchy)


Anarchy will always dissolve into oppression.

And under all examples of socialism the 99.9% at the bottom are off far worst than the typical person in a more free market society. The wealth gap is so vast most people never see it and they all share the same suffering.

If you can read this you are amoung the Privlaged!

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Reply #2 posted 09/12/20 5:29pm

IanRG

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Fascism is a far left ideology...the true spectrum is


Extreme oppressive government in the hands of a VERY few (the left) to a state of nature (the right)


both suck... but yeah fascism is way to the left and anarchy is far right... (and no one wants anarchy)


Anarchy will always dissolve into oppression.

And under all examples of socialism the 99.9% at the bottom are off far worst than the typical person in a more free market society. The wealth gap is so vast most people never see it and they all share the same suffering.

If you can read this you are amoung the Privlaged!

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You are semantically, factually and historically wrong. Repeating the same thing over and over and over does allow you to make things up or require people to believe you.

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When you constantly make this error, you are mixing two separate things: Left vs right is not and never has been the same as authoritarianism vs anarchism. Politics is more than 1 dimensional. It is more than 2 dimensional but even if you look at it in two dimensions you get:

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Far Right Authoritarianism = Nazi style Fascist

Far Left Authoritarianism = Soviet style Communist

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Anarchism is also not exclusive to the far right - that is plainly stupid. You can be a far right libertarian or a far left anarchist.

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You really need to stop following Fox and co and the campaigns from the far Right websites that are not openly Neo Nazi that try to make up that the fascists were communists. Ponder that - the Nazi authoritarian far right nut jobs are less confused than you in that they know their Fascism is far right.

[Edited 9/13/20 4:03am]

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Reply #3 posted 09/13/20 6:09am

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A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

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Do U understand what I'm saying?

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Reply #4 posted 09/15/20 7:54am

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The people are the ideas. lol

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Reply #5 posted 09/15/20 3:48pm

AMERICA1ST

TRUMP2020

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Reply #6 posted 09/17/20 2:01pm

SoulAlive

dump Trump 2020....let's REALLY make America great again!

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Reply #7 posted 09/18/20 7:22am

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SoulAlive said:

dump Trump 2020....let's REALLY make America great again!



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Reply #8 posted 09/18/20 7:49am

AMERICA1ST

OldFriends4Sale said:

A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

It is a good rule - one that liberals just ignore. That is how we got cancel culture. That is how destroying businesses of innocent people has been justified. THat is how some people like David DOrn were murdered.

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Reply #9 posted 09/18/20 9:59am

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AMERICA1ST said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

It is a good rule - one that liberals just ignore. That is how we got cancel culture. That is how destroying businesses of innocent people has been justified. THat is how some people like David DOrn were murdered.


No it's not.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix
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Reply #10 posted 09/18/20 4:48pm

slyjackson

OldFriends4Sale said:

A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

Wrong ideas and people are never seperated we need to criticize both, because they are one and the same.

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