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Reply #60 posted 08/31/20 6:52am

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Well of course its his opinion, that of a Black man.

And there are many many others who have that same opinion.

Shut down and disagree with Black thoughts that don't encourage a certain narrative? You cannot say his thoughts are the minority. And even if it's a little less doesn't mean it's wrong.

"majority isn't always right" right? Or is the 80+ % of black Americans who don't want the police defunded right?

Or the opnion that we should legalize drugs, a minority opinion, wrong?

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Reply #61 posted 08/31/20 9:54am

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The absent father myth again. Society hates black mothers. omg.

Watch the po po jack this dude some day.

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Reply #62 posted 08/31/20 10:32am

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Well of course its his opinion, that of a Black man.



And there are many many others who have that same opinion.

Shut down and disagree with Black thoughts that don't encourage a certain narrative? You cannot say his thoughts are the minority. And even if it's a little less doesn't mean it's wrong.



"majority isn't always right" right? Or is the 80+ % of black Americans who don't want the police defunded right?



Or the opnion that we should legalize drugs, a minority opinion, wrong?



Who’s trying to “shut down Black thought “? I said that he had every right to that opinion. But studies and polls will show that this is not an opinion shared by the majority of Black Americans. What you might have come across on Twitter or Facebook or wherever does not cover the views of the majority of Black people in America.

I’m sure if I looked hard enough, I could find a Jewish person who said the Nazis weren’t that bad. But would that reflect what the overwhelming majority of Jewish people believe? I don’t think so.... even if it IS the opinion of a “Jewish man”

And “defunding the police “ is not only a simplistic statement, but almost like a Rorschach Test, is something everyone seems to have their own ideas of what it really “means “.... I suspect that most Black Americans want quality police who treat all people fairly and equally, and also funding for social services that in some cases are better suited to handle certain situations than LE is
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Reply #63 posted 08/31/20 10:42am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The absent father myth again. Society hates black mothers. omg.



Watch the po po jack this dude some day.



Studies show that even though many so-called “absent Black fathers” are not living in the same home as their children and the mothers, they are often still very active and present in the lives of their children. But the persistent stereotypes are that these Black men don’t give a shit about their kids. It feed into the image that Black people have less emotional ties than other groups.

Also, I can guarantee that every one of those boys will get their “N***er Wake Up Call” sooner or later, either from police or store security, or just the general public. It happens to all Black people in America, especially men
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Reply #64 posted 08/31/20 11:42am

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And where is the wife?

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2freaky4church1 said:

The absent father myth again. Society hates black mothers. omg.

Watch the po po jack this dude some day.

somewhere out there, when love will see us through...

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activist Tamika Mallory

We exist within a patriarchal society

where we uphold our men

the man

as being the center

I don't disagree with that, I think that we should make sure

we respect our men

My father is the head of our families household
he is the man...

Men have to deal with patriarchy

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Who else do you beat up

Because you can't beat up the cop, you can't beat up your boss at work
So now you come home and there is a vulnerable black woman there
whose willing to take it all, we're gonna take it, we're like give it to me

I hold it, so you can go back out into the world and be productive

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Reply #66 posted 08/31/20 3:33pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Well of course its his opinion, that of a Black man.

And there are many many others who have that same opinion.

Shut down and disagree with Black thoughts that don't encourage a certain narrative? You cannot say his thoughts are the minority. And even if it's a little less doesn't mean it's wrong.

"majority isn't always right" right? Or is the 80+ % of black Americans who don't want the police defunded right?

Or the opnion that we should legalize drugs, a minority opinion, wrong?

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Exactly. And Hampton should not use his position in politics and media to shut down and cancel the opinions of Black thoughts that don't encourage the narrative he wants to present.

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I agree: Lebron's thoughts are not the minority and even if aspects of what ever Lebron said to get Hampton to write this cancel culture article are in the minority, this does not make what Lebron said wrong. We should address the points Lebron made, not cancel them with far-right politically correct spin about there being no real problem - other than what the Black man brings on themselves and their children if they are not as good as me. That the vast majority of Black people are not being killed by police is no reason for Hampton to dismiss the facts by denying the systemic racism in police violence and the criminal justice system on the opinion that this does not exist, it is all the bad dad's fault.

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Ultimately everyone's opinions are mix of minority and majority held beliefs and every one talks for themselves. Whether a belief is in the minority or the majority of world, country, state, ideology, culture, your group of friends at the pub, club or school does not matter. It is what you do with these beliefs that make them right or wrong. If you seek to make society better and more equitable so police can be safely partly defunded by better prevention methods, better training, better mental health support, better education, pulling back from the myth that all people in the USA have the same opportunities and are only poor etc because they are not as good as me, then, by all means defund the police. If you ask should we just defund and shutdown all police now, then you will get 80+% of all people saying no. If use this poll to justify no change in policing today, you are doing a great wrong (in my opinion).

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Reply #67 posted 08/31/20 4:37pm

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Houston council members call for overhaul of police oversight board, other HPD reforms

By Dylan McGuinness, Staff writer 1 hr ago

Houston Chronicle logoHouston council members call for overhaul of police oversight board, other HPD reforms

Five city council members on Monday sent a letter to Mayor Sylvester Turner outlining police reforms they said Houston can implement immediately, including a “complete overhaul” of the Independent Police Oversight Board, a cite-and-release ordinance and incentive pay for officers who live within city limits.

a group of people sitting at desks in a room: City Council meets May 2020 at City Hall.© Jon Shapley, Staff Photographer / Staff Photographer

City Council meets May 2020 at City Hall.

In the letter, Councilmembers Edward Pollard, Tiffany Thomas, Jerry Davis, Martha Castex-Tatum, and Carolyn Evans-Shabazz detail a slew of more than 25 reforms. Chief among them: a sweeping reboot of the oversight board, which reviews probes by the Houston Police Department’s Internal Affairs Division.

They recommended the board have complete autonomy and investigative authority, with full access to all unclassified information from HPD.

“We are convinced there must be a complete overhaul of the Independent Police Oversight Board (IPOB),” the letter says. “We have no confidence in the current format. We must create a structure of guidelines that governs the function of the new board to restore public trust with public input.”

The letter comes as the mayor’s Task Force on Policing Re...p its work. The group’s report and recommendations are expected some time in September.

Mayor Sylvester Turner, who has defended the police department and said the city needs more officers, said he welcomed the council members’ input and has forwarded their recommendations to the task force.

At a press conference Monday, he declined to stake out a position on any of their proposals, citing the task force’s ongoing work.

“I don’t want to get out in front of the 45 people who are working on that as we speak,” Turner said.

He did say, however, that a cite-and-release policy is in the works apart from the task force, though he did not offer further details. Such policies generally let some people charged with low-level crimes off with a citation instead of an arrest.

The council members’ letter also said the city could implement an online, independently-maintained dashboard showing complaints of police misconduct, HPD policies, guidelines, “and other relevant information.”

“This platform will be an innovative measure to not only hold officers accountable for misconduct, but will increase police community relations by being transparent in a data driven fashion,” the letter said.

The letter outlines 25 items they asked be included in the next contract between the...s’ Union.

Those include offering incentive pay and hiring priority to officers who live within city limits; recruiting officers from historically Black colleges and universities; having a citizen and citizen attorney present for walk-throughs at all police shootings; publishing HPD’s General Orders online; ending the “48 Hour” and “180 Hour” rules, which give officers accused of misconduct time to prepare their defense, and including a council member in contract negotiations with the Houston Police Officers Union.

One measure notably absent in the letter is the city’s budget, which drew criticism for ...for police by roughly $19 million amid calls to “defund” the police, or reallocate some of their funds to other city services. The letter makes no recommendation on that matter.

Police Chief Art Acevedo said he appreciated the input.

HPOU President Joe Gamaldi did not respond to a request for comment.

The letter received a cool reception among advocates and activists who have been pushing for more aggressive reforms.

Jaison Oliver, who has appeared before the council and lobbied for it to redirect police funds, said the letter falls short for that reason. He said the sole mention of the budget alluded to giving more money for Houston-based officers, a prospect that could further increase the budget.

“Your whole thinking is focused on, ‘How do we make a stronger police department, and how do we invest more resources in policing,’” said Oliver. “And that’s not going to make us safer. That’s not going to make us healthier.”

Sarah Labowitz, policy and advocacy director for the ACLU of Texas said it was encouraging that council members are feeling a sense of urgency.

“The community has called for a bunch of these things,” she said, citing the oversight board reform, cite-and-release policy and disciplinary windows. “And, yet, there are some major things where we still need action. And in all of this, council could act now. If they had the ordinance in front of them, they could act now on body camera release, on cite-and-release, and on (banning) no-knock warrants. That’s what we really want to see — real action now.”

Ashton Woods, a founder and leader of Black Lives Matter Houston, reacted with skepticism. He pointed out that it did not address the budget, asked that the oversight board get access to only unclassified materials and would maintain the disciplinary boards formed by the police department and union.

“Thing is, this feels like a sham that was APPROVED by Mayor Turner,” Woods said on Twitter. “This whole thing feels like a farce… I’d appreciate (Acevedo’s) resignation… how bout that.”

Woods also noted council members absent from the letter: Abbie Kamin, who chairs the public safety committee; and Letitia Plummer, who won plaudits from activists — and consternation from her colleagues — for her bid to redirect some police funds during the budget debate.

Kamin said she has been advocating for the cite-and-release ordinance that Turner mentioned Monday. She also forwarded a report of recommendations from an eight-hour committee hearing in June, Turner said.

In a statement, Plummer said she had been waiting for the task force to submit its recommendations.

“I applaud my colleagues for bringing concrete solutions to the table. Some of these are actionable items; however, this is not the first letter that has been sent to the Mayor,” Plummer said. “Councilmembers were empowered and elected to create policy. It is time to exercise our full legislative powers. I was waiting for the Task Force to release its recommendations, but since my colleagues are ready take these steps, now it’s time to legislate.”

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Patrisse Cullors @osopepatrisse with Melina Abdullah @docmellymel. June 13, 2020.

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LAPD budget

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old proposal for jails

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yes when we say Defund we literally mean Abolish

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Reply #69 posted 09/02/20 9:32am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The absent father myth again. Society hates black mothers. omg.

Watch the po po jack this dude some day.

Studies show that even though many so-called “absent Black fathers” are not living in the same home as their children and the mothers, they are often still very active and present in the lives of their children. But the persistent stereotypes are that these Black men don’t give a shit about their kids. It feed into the image that Black people have less emotional ties than other groups. Also, I can guarantee that every one of those boys will get their “N***er Wake Up Call” sooner or later, either from police or store security, or just the general public. It happens to all Black people in America, especially men

Yep..doesn't matter how conservative/liberal you are, or what your educational/financial status is...I wonder what Hampton would say then?

Off-duty black cops get shit too....ask my relatives who were on the job.

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Al Sharpton: Defund the Police Is Just Something ‘Latte Liberals’ Support

Justin Baragona 1 hr ago




Scarborough then turned to Sharpton, asking the National Action Network founder if he feels the city is starting to “fray at the edges.”

Pointing out that this is a “tale of two cities” and that he comes from the side that is “blacker and poorer,” Sharpton brought up a mass shooting in Brooklyn over the Labor Day weekend.

“So I would say statistically we’re not much higher than we were,” he added. “But on the ground it is certainly feeling more violent, feeling more unsafe, in unsafe communities, if you know what I mean. I’m talking about communities where we were somewhat having to deal with more crime, it feels more, in many ways, dangerous.”

At the same time, Sharpton claimed that he doesn’t think hyperbolic headlines over the violence “are exactly right,” saying media outlets “embellish it.” He also stated that the pandemic has contributed to this “worse feeling” in the city.

Scarborough then brought up the calls for defunding the police by progressives and activists, wondering aloud if the slashing of the New Y...ice budget by one billion dollars has disproportionately impacted people of color.

“I’ve said, and you and I have discussed this, we need to reimagine how we do policing,” Sharpton replied. “We are in the areas where—that is inundated with guns, that has this serious problems of our—of people being given guns that can’t even get a summer program.”

“To take all policing off is something I think a latte liberal may go for as they sit around the Hamptons discussing this as some academic problem,” he concluded. “But people living on the ground need proper policing. Yes, we need more resources in different areas like mental health. But we do not need our grandmothers [to be] prey to those that are being the users of products of the big gun manufacturers in this country.”

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Detroit police chief on lawmakers' call for investigation into city's protest response

Detroit Police Chief on violent protests

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Speaking as a social worker, our services are underutilized. We have trained professionals who know how to deal with mental health issues, homelessness, substance abuse issues, domestic violence, child abuse, and the list goes on and on. We engage in community planning/building, advocacy, even lobbying for rights for our clients. I am required to get 40 hours of CEUs every 2 years to maintain my social work license. I am required to follow the NASW Code of Ethics. We know how to go in and de-escalate a situation, to speak to individuals that are actively hallucinating or delusional. Social workers specialize in many different specialties, fields of interest. There are so many different ways that a social worker could be utilized to decrease the number of calls that go to the police, that should really be directed to someone who is better trained in handling that situation anyway, but we aren't. And this is what "defund the police" is really about. It's about utilizing other resources outside of police to handle calls that really should not involve the police to begin with. If anything, the police could act as a back up if the social worker needs it.

When CPS goes into a home to remove a child from an abusive situation, it is the CPS worker that calls the shots. If they feel they could be entering a dangerous situation, they will have a squad car go with them to act as backup, and the police only get involved if the CPS worker directs them to.

"Defund the police" merely means redirecting the funds, to pay for other services that could be beneficial to the community, the citizenry, and the police themselves.

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Reply #73 posted 09/09/20 8:40pm

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Speaking as a social worker, our services are underutilized. We have trained professionals who know how to deal with mental health issues, homelessness, substance abuse issues, domestic violence, child abuse, and the list goes on and on. We engage in community planning/building, advocacy, even lobbying for rights for our clients. I am required to get 40 hours of CEUs every 2 years to maintain my social work license. I am required to follow the NASW Code of Ethics. We know how to go in and de-escalate a situation, to speak to individuals that are actively hallucinating or delusional. Social workers specialize in many different specialties, fields of interest. There are so many different ways that a social worker could be utilized to decrease the number of calls that go to the police, that should really be directed to someone who is better trained in handling that situation anyway, but we aren't. And this is what "defund the police" is really about. It's about utilizing other resources outside of police to handle calls that really should not involve the police to begin with. If anything, the police could act as a back up if the social worker needs it.

When CPS goes into a home to remove a child from an abusive situation, it is the CPS worker that calls the shots. If they feel they could be entering a dangerous situation, they will have a squad car go with them to act as backup, and the police only get involved if the CPS worker directs them to.

"Defund the police" merely means redirecting the funds, to pay for other services that could be beneficial to the community, the citizenry, and the police themselves.

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And that is all it means to the vast majority of people other than protestors not thinking it through and people seeking to use a simplistic slogan against people seeking an end to systemic racist violence by the police and criminal justice system.

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Gaols should not be alternatives to mental health services and facilities. They should not be businesses where Presidents and Govenors of both colours and neither allow for deals to be signed to guarantee sufficent prisoners as a source of fees and cheap labour for the private facilities by things like mandatory sentencing legislation (This includes President Clinton).

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Police should not be para-military forces seeking to engage the enemy - they are to protect and serve the community of which they are members. If they think they need military style vehicles and weapons to enter parts of their community, they have already failed. Defunding the police means not requiring these tactics and equipment because they have worked with the community to not need this equipment anymore. How many police would appreciate knowing that not only is the community safer and their family is safer, but in all but the rare extremes, they are also safer. Justine Damond would be alive as would so many other and Mohamed Noor would not be in prison never having to learn that the only way to do his job is shoot first even when there is no discernable threat.

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Defund the police does not mean allow criminals to take over. It is not a threat - it is an opportunity to make things safer and better for all

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Defund or abolish? US debate about police reform continues

Creede Newton 2 days ago
Al Jazeera logoDefund or abolish? US debate about police reform continues

Court proceedings are set to begin Friday for four former Minneapolis police officers charged in the death of George Floyd, which sparked a nationwide movement against police brutality and anti-Black racism.


Floyd died in Minneapolis police custody in May - and video footage of his death showed the 46-year-old saying he could not breathe before going silent as former officer Derek Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's back for nearly nine minutes.

Floyd's death also reignited a debate across the United States about the future of policing, with many community members and activists calling for cities to defund police to invest in community programmes instead - or abolish their police forces altogether.

These demands have faced a backlash from pundits, politicians and some police officers themselves, who say the police keeps the US safe and serves as a "thin blue line" that stops society from descending into chaos.

Case for abolition

But many do not feel that way, said Mekdes Sisay, a member of the DC chapter of Black Youth Project 100 (BYP100), a national Black youth organisation that works on social justice issues, including those involving policing.

Police "don't keep us safe. That's not their role ... they protect property," Sisay told Al Jazeera in an interview.

Sisay pointed to the fact that in many cases, early policing in the US was in the form of volunteer slave patrols that attempted to return escaping slaves, then viewed as property, to their "owners", especially in Southern states.

Protesters march during a demonstration against police brutality and racism on August 24, 2020, in Minneapolis, Minnesota [Kerem Yucel/AFP]

BYP100 is an "abolitionist organisation", Sisay said.

"So, we are fighting for a future ... without police, a future without prisons, because we believe that these institutions actively work to oppress Black communities."

Although Black people account for roughly 13 percent of the US population, they make up as much as 40 percent of people held in federal and state prisons, according to US census data. US government statistics also showed that federal and state prisons held about 475,900 Black inmates in 2017.

Practically speaking, Sisay said BYP100 is working in conjunction with other groups in Washington, DC to decriminalise sex work as part of a broader strategy to reduce the need for police in society, among other efforts.

Decriminalisation has worked in other instances, notably in Portugal, which ended drug criminalisation in 2001. The country adopted a public health approach to its drug problem and has seen an increase in people seeking treatment and plummeting overdose and HIV transmission numbers among drug users.

But abolition is not without its detractors. Right-wing pundits like Fox News' Tucker Carlson argue that abolitionists want a "woke militia of armed social workers, psychologists, and ethnic studies majors" - and want people to be afraid to call the police.

While many people in the US may not entirely agree with Carlson's characterisation, Sisay acknowledged that the national consensus in the US is not yet in favour of police abolition.

"I don't think that as many people have made the jump to abolishing the police totally," Sisay said. "There's still some pushback against that. But I definitely think that the protests over the summer and the momentum that's been built has pushed a lot of people towards that."

Defunding police

As protests and calls for defunding or abolishing police spread this year, some observers have pointed to the city of Camden, New Jersey, as a model for how policing can be transformed - in a more moderate way.

Camden, colloquially known as the most dangerous city in the US, decided to disband its police force in 2012 amid criticism of its inability to tackle years of record-high crime rates.

A countywide police department took over the following year, which increased the number of officers on patrol for less total spending, thanks in part to lowered salaries resulting from the Camden City police union's dissolution.

Violent crime has dropped significantly as the force instituted "community policing", or building ties with the community, and some Camden residents support the changes.

Others, like Ayinde Merrill, still think more needs to be done.

Merrill is a lifelong resident of Camden and activist with grassroots group Camden Arts for Change, which has presented the Camden Coun...Department with demands for increased accountability and for more officers from the city of Camden who "know the community" to be hired, among others.

Merrill told Al Jazeera that while he personally is in favour of police abolition, defunding the police is the quickest way to attain progress that will benefit his community.

Merrill said he would like to see the money that would have gone to police be redistributed to fund arts, job and education programmes. Progressive legislators like US Representatives Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have made similar calls.

A 2017 joint report by Law for Black Lives, the Center for Popular Democracy and BYP100 examined budgets relative to policing in 12 large metropolitan areas in the US and found that money allocated for incarceration and policing comes at the expense of other programmes.

In Oakland, 41 percent of the city's budget, or $242.5m, went to "police spending", the report found.

Other cities, such as Detroit, Houston and Chicago, allocated similarly high figures, with between 30 and 38 percent of their budgets to police spending in 2017, the 2017 report found.

Expectations for police

Betsy Smith is a retired police sergeant with 29 years' experience in the Naperville, Illinois, police department and a spokesperson for the National Police Association, a pro-police nonprofit that says it works to educate people who want to help police departments "achieve their goals".

She said defunding police will not end the way activists expect; community policing programmes will be the first to be cut if budgets shrink, Smith said, as will training courses that go beyond state requirements, such as those on de-escalation.

"The bare minimum budget has to include police to answer calls ... We're going to be left with just basically trained police officers in patrol cars. I don't think that's what people want," said Smith, citing unrest in Portland, Kenosha, Minneapolis and elsewhere.

However, Smith said police have been given greater societal responsibilities, including dealing with mental health and domestic disturbance calls which they do not enjoy - so discussions around the type of policing people want are necessary.

Mental health advocacy groups have also said police should not be responding to these sensitive calls because their interventions can lead to deadly results. In March, Daniel Prude, a Black man in a mental health crisis, died of suffocation after police put a hood over his head and held him down during an arrest.

Community organisers like Merrill insist that with police budgets already so inflated, it is time to reconsider how much money goes into policing and "defund to invest".

"We truly believe that if you have access to fair housing, education and jobs", he said, then things will "turn around" for communities.

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If we defund the police who you gonna call when the next Kyle Rittenhouse shows up? I do not think Ray Parker Jr or Bill Murry are going to come help!

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If we defund the police who you gonna call when the next Kyle Rittenhouse shows up? I do not think Ray Parker Jr or Bill Murry are going to come help!

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What we mean is the militarized parts.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #78 posted 09/14/20 9:15am

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2freaky4church1 said:

What we mean is the militarized parts.



We?

But same issue... Someone has an AR shouldn't cops have the tools to counter that? wasn't there a case where cops were way out gunned and a gun store came to the rescue and lent them arms to match? (And yes we know you want to ban guns)
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Reply #79 posted 09/14/20 9:48am

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We.

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Reply #80 posted 09/14/20 5:25pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

We.

the thing about removing "the militarized parts" is that how many times were the so called "the militarized parts" the problem? Do you mean no knock warrants?


Breonna Taylor? But the issue with that is at close range a 10mm is just as deadly as an AR.

But yeah what would the cops do if someone had an AR/AK and was shooting up a crowd?

send in a social worker with a trapper keeper notebook and a pen with 6 colors?

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Reply #81 posted 09/14/20 9:36pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

We.

the thing about removing "the militarized parts" is that how many times were the so called "the militarized parts" the problem? Do you mean no knock warrants?


Breonna Taylor? But the issue with that is at close range a 10mm is just as deadly as an AR.

But yeah what would the cops do if someone had an AR/AK and was shooting up a crowd?

send in a social worker with a trapper keeper notebook and a pen with 6 colors?

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The militarised parts of the police force. Guns don't police people, people police people.

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There really is no point talking to you if you will joke about sending in social worker against a person actively killing people.

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Reply #82 posted 09/15/20 7:53am

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Law and Order crap comes straight from the Jim Crow south.

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