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Aunt Jemima’s Great-Grandson Is Furious That Her Legacy Is Being Erased

After Quaker Foods announced its rebranding, the great-grandson of the real Aunt Jemima expressed his fury that cancel culture is erasing her legacy.

Published on Jun 18, 2020 at 1:11 PM

Yesterday, we reported that Quaker Foods caved to calls to “cancel” Aunt Jemima, and that the brand will be renamed. Now, the great-grandson of the real Aunt Jemima, Anna Short Harrington, is speaking out to express his anger and disappointment that her legacy is being erased.

Great-Grandson Of “Aunt Jemima” Anna Short Harrington Speaks Out

“This is an injustice for me and my family. This is part of my history, sir,” Larnell Evans Sr. told Patch. “The racism they talk about, using images from slavery, that comes from the other side — white people. This company profits off images of our slavery. And their answer is to erase my great-grandmother’s history. A black female. … It hurts.”





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Reply #1 posted 06/19/20 10:48am

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the energy of cancel culture generations, are mostly going by their feelings and not factual concepts of history.

All the African-Americans that collect images from those times better watch out...



Just like "Gone with the wind" They canceled the first Black person/woman (Hattie McDaniel) to win an Academy award. She was a trail blazer. Yes the story on what people went threw is hard but they went threw it all to break barriers. and now they try to cancel them!

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"How many white people were raised looking at characters like Aunt Jemima at breakfast every morning?" he said. "How many white corporations made all them profits, and didn't give us a dime? I think they should have to look at it. They can't just wipe it out while we still suffer."

"After making all that money —and now's the time when black people are saying we want restitution for slavery — they're just going to erase history like it didn't happen?" Evans added. "They're not going to give us nothing? What gives them the right?"

But, Quaker Foods has announced that Aunt Jemima imagery and branding will be removed from all products by the end of the year.

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R.I.P Aunt Jemima. I bet Buckwheat is up next.

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Reply #3 posted 06/19/20 12:56pm

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Aunt Jemima does not have a grandson. Aunt Jemima is a fictional character from the minstrel shows in the 1800's that was a white man dressed in black face as a mammy slave. A drawing of that character was used to sell pancake mix and was eventually sold to the entity that owns it now. There were several black models that were used through the years for the photo of Aunt Jemima on the box depicting a black slave mammy serving pancakes to her slave owners. Nancy Green, a former slave, is the most well known model. Contrary to popular belief she was never a millionaire.

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Blows my mind that a man has to get tortured for 8 minutes and 46 seconds before society realizes how offensive Aunt Jemima is and blow my mind even more that some people still don't get it.

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Aunt Jemima brand is changing its name and removing the namesake Black character
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“Nancy Green, a Civil War-era slave from Mount Sterling, was the inspiration for the first Aunt Jemima, the Black woman who has served as the face of the brand for more than 100 years. Quaker announced Wednesday that it would remove her image, which was later based on other models in the decades after Green’s appearance, from its pancake mix boxes and changing the brand name in an acknowledgment that the image is “based on a racial stereotype.”

"We will continue the conversation by gathering diverse perspectives from both our organization and the Black community to further evolve the brand," Kristin Kroepfl, vice president and chief marketing officer of Quaker Foods North America, said in a statement sent to the USA TODAY Network.

Born a slave in Kentucky in 1834, Green lived in Mount Sterling throughout the Civil War and relocated to Chicago when the conflict ended. There, she became a cook for Judge Charles Walker, who recommended she represent R.T. Davis Milling Company’s pancake mix, according to Marilyn Kern-Foxworth’s book, "Blacks in Advertising, Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow." Her fame grew after appearing at Chicago’s World’s Fair in 1893 before she died in 1923.“

The first Aunt Jemima image was based on Green when the brand was formed in 1889. She was shown with a wide smile and wearing a bandana in her hair, an image that faced criticism for years as it was accused of encouraging racist stereotypes. In 1989, the image was revamped, with the new model wearing pearl earrings with curly hair.

A lawsuit filed in 2014 by the descendants of Anna Harrington, who was used as a model for Aunt Jemima after Green, claimed Quaker Oats and parent company PepsiCo "made false promises to Nancy Green" and Harrington, and exploited the pair, who they said were critical in creating the pancake mix recipe. The $2 million lawsuit was thrown out in 2015.

Aunt Jemima will no longer appear on packaging at the grocery store in the fourth quarter of 2021, and a new name for Quaker’s products will be announced soon after.“
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donnyenglish said:

Aunt Jemima does not have a grandson. Aunt Jemima is a fictional character from the minstrel shows in the 1800's that was a white man dressed in black face as a mammy slave. A drawing of that character was used to sell pancake mix and was eventually sold to the entity that owns it now. There were several black models that were used through the years for the photo of Aunt Jemima on the box depicting a black slave mammy serving pancakes to her slave owners. Nancy Green, a former slave, is the most well known model. Contrary to popular belief she was never a millionaire.


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Blows my mind that a man has to get tortured for 8 minutes and 46 seconds before society realizes how offensive Aunt Jemima is and blow my mind even more that some people still don't get it.


I hear you 100%. Someone had to die for these changes to be made and what’s astonishing, is what took many so long to see the racism in this country?

Anyway, apparently a judge dismissed the lawsuit from Harrington’s family, because they failed to prove they were her descendants. It’s also a shame that both women - Green and Harrington were exploited, and not compensated fsirly. Doesn’t surprise me.
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https://www.legacy.com/ne...ncy-green/

Be cool if she gets the headstone she deserves (fundraiser started in May before this became a hot topic) and if they rename the pancakes Nancy Green's pancakes.

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https://www.legacy.com/ne...ncy-green/

Be cool if she gets the headstone she deserves (fundraiser started in May before this became a hot topic) and if they rename the pancakes Nancy Green's pancakes.


Also, Anna Short Harrington was the 2nd woman to portray the logo. So
it will be interesting to see if they give credit to both on the name change, since they exploited both women to sell their product.
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Let me know if this is racist enough.

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Let me know if this is racist enough.


Oh it’s racist enough alright.

Reminds that as late in the 90s, I saw people selling ‘mammy caricatures’ similar t some of those images, along the highway, and at Flea markets in Tallahassee, Florida. I was shocked when I saw them. Haven’t been back there for years, so not sure if those items are still being sold there.
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2elijah said:

donnyenglish said:











Let me know if this is racist enough.


Oh it’s racist enough alright.

Reminds that as late in the 90s, I saw people selling ‘mammy caricatures’ similar t some of those images, along the highway, and at Flea markets in Tallahassee, Florida. I was shocked when I saw them. Haven’t been back there for years, so not sure if those items are still being sold there.
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Don’t you dare complain about that, or voice your disapproval.,. Or else you might be considered part of a “mob”...
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When the Mob wins and is given in to they get embodend and keep going and going. I have been saying that someday they will go after things you think are okay..

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So your answer to:

.

1 Efforts to stop police violence based on the race of the victim,

.

2 The removal of symbols of enemies of the State put up to stick it to the very people these racist enemies want to continue to enslave, and

.

3 The removal of racist stereotypes in advertising

.

is for all three that you believe we cannot allow these improvements because a different mob from Only's mob will be seen as winning. So you think we should reject these improvements because what if these racist mobs go back to winning and they come for something people think is good?

.

The answer is simple - reducing unequal and unnecessay racially based police violence is a commonsense good, removing extreme and unequal honour for racists who waged war on the USA put up as a counter to the civil rights movement is commonsense good, removing racist stereotypes from advertising is a commonsense good. Seeking to deny these good changes because some imagined bad change may be made sometime in the future is neither commonsense nor good.

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IanRG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

When the Mob wins and is given in to they get embodend and keep going and going. I have been saying that someday they will go after things you think are okay..

.

So your answer to:

.

1 Efforts to stop police violence based on the race of the victim,

.

2 The removal of symbols of enemies of the State put up to stick it to the very people these racist enemies want to continue to enslave, and

.

3 The removal of racist stereotypes in advertising

.

is for all three that you believe we cannot allow these improvements because a different mob from Only's mob will be seen as winning. So you think we should reject these improvements because what if these racist mobs go back to winning and they come for something people think is good?

.

The answer is simple - reducing unequal and unnecessay racially based police violence is a commonsense good, removing extreme and unequal honour for racists who waged war on the USA put up as a counter to the civil rights movement is commonsense good, removing racist stereotypes from advertising is a commonsense good. Seeking to deny these good changes because some imagined bad change may be made sometime in the future is neither commonsense nor good.

would you say that to Larnell Evans Sr.?


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2elijah said:


Oh it’s racist enough alright.

Reminds that as late in the 90s, I saw people selling ‘mammy caricatures’ similar t some of those images, along the highway, and at Flea markets in Tallahassee, Florida. I was shocked when I saw them. Haven’t been back there for years, so not sure if those items are still being sold there.
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Don’t you dare complain about that, or voice your disapproval.,. Or else you might be considered part of a “mob”...
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Can you imagine if ‘voices’ were silent about racial injustices/prejudice? That would make racists too happy.
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donnyenglish said:

Aunt Jemima does not have a grandson. Aunt Jemima is a fictional character from the minstrel shows in the 1800's that was a white man dressed in black face as a mammy slave. A drawing of that character was used to sell pancake mix and was eventually sold to the entity that owns it now. There were several black models that were used through the years for the photo of Aunt Jemima on the box depicting a black slave mammy serving pancakes to her slave owners. Nancy Green, a former slave, is the most well known model. Contrary to popular belief she was never a millionaire.

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Blows my mind that a man has to get tortured for 8 minutes and 46 seconds before society realizes how offensive Aunt Jemima is and blow my mind even more that some people still don't get it.


For once I wholeheartedly agree with you.

The Nancy Green story etc is nothing but white washing white supremacy by the massas so it's widely accepted by the masses.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

.

So your answer to:

.

1 Efforts to stop police violence based on the race of the victim,

.

2 The removal of symbols of enemies of the State put up to stick it to the very people these racist enemies want to continue to enslave, and

.

3 The removal of racist stereotypes in advertising

.

is for all three that you believe we cannot allow these improvements because a different mob from Only's mob will be seen as winning. So you think we should reject these improvements because what if these racist mobs go back to winning and they come for something people think is good?

.

The answer is simple - reducing unequal and unnecessay racially based police violence is a commonsense good, removing extreme and unequal honour for racists who waged war on the USA put up as a counter to the civil rights movement is commonsense good, removing racist stereotypes from advertising is a commonsense good. Seeking to deny these good changes because some imagined bad change may be made sometime in the future is neither commonsense nor good.

would you say that to Larnell Evans Sr.?


.

Does Larnell Evans Sr care that much about your racist defenses against removing racism from the police, statues in places of honour or from stereotyping in advertising?

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In regards to a business choosing belatedly to remove racist stereotyping in advertising, yes, I would say it. The history of racist advertising is full of imagery that has already been removed because it was wrong and damaging. Brand names change all the time once a brand becomes damaging to the image of the company. Larnell Even's relation was not Aunt Jemima, she only played a part. She was not even the first person to play Aunt Gemima. She was Anna Short Harrington selected as a model for an updated image in 1935. She ceased to play Aunt Gemina in 1955. Her role had already been consigned to history.

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Legacy? To what community? I'm not a black or white American, so I'm curious. Truly.
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Unbelievable...smh


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Colgate is still selling 'Black Person Toothpaste' in China. Now that's under review

By Sherisse Pham, CNN Business
Updated 6:49 AM ET, Fri June 19, 2020


Hong Kong (CNN Business)”Colgate has announced a review of its toothpaste brand Darlie, which once featured a smiling White man in blackface, as companies around the world reconsider their use of racist stereotypes following the killing of George Floyd.

The popular brand, which is sold in China, the Philippines, Thailand and other Asian countries, has long been criticized for using racist imagery. The brand is marketed in Chinese as "Black Person Toothpaste" and was sold using the racial epithet Darkie until its name was changed in 1989.

Darlie is the top brand by market share in China, according to Colgate-Palmolive (CL). The brand — whose logo is still of a man in a top hat and tuxedo, though he is meant to be racially ambiguous — is under review.


"For more than 35 years, we have been working together to evolve the brand, including substantial changes to the name, logo and packaging. We are currently working with our partner to review and further evolve all aspects of the brand, including the brand name," the company said in a statement to Reuters.
The company did not respond to a request for comment outside of regular office hours. It linked to the Reuters report from its official Twitter account.“
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Interesting the fight of a fictitious character on a box.
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Interesting the fight of a fictitious character on a box.

It’s about stereotyped, and insulting images. If you’re aware of the history behind many of those degrading images, and whom it’s meant to target, then you get it. If not, then you don’t.
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2elijah said:

onlyforaminute said:

Interesting the fight of a fictitious character on a box.

It’s about stereotyped, and insulting images. If you’re aware of the history behind many of those degrading images, and whom it’s meant to target, then you get it. If not, then you don’t.



Oh I know, I looking at it from another angle. It should be simple but somebody needs to hold on to it with both fist thereby creating a fight. Interesting the depth of what's ingrained. Just observing.

To complete the thought since I always assume it's quite obvious. It's a fight because it's not just an image on a box, it's about a way of thinking, so we all know how one side feels, the question is why it's a fight from the otherside, how does that picture affect the product, why is that image needed to identify that product. On some level it means something. It took lots of time, sweat, blood and tears to remove it. Whatever it is it runs very deep.
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2elijah said:

donnyenglish said:

Let me know if this is racist enough.

Oh it’s racist enough alright. Reminds that as late in the 90s, I saw people selling ‘mammy caricatures’ similar t some of those images, along the highway, and at Flea markets in Tallahassee, Florida. I was shocked when I saw them. Haven’t been back there for years, so not sure if those items are still being sold there. [Edited 6/19/20 15:45pm]

I used to collect antique ceramic salt and pepper shakers and those little "house slave" figurines, sometimes salt and pepper shakers, can be super valuable at the flea markets. Valuable because, I believe, many were created during the Jim Crow era, and (hopefully) they are no longer made so they are highly collectible artifacts of "Americana". Ceramic figurines can depict any and everything from a particular era even if it is blantantly racist. Same with depictions of Mexicans. neutral



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onlyforaminute said:

2elijah said:


It’s about stereotyped, and insulting images. If you’re aware of the history behind many of those degrading images, and whom it’s meant to target, then you get it. If not, then you don’t.



Oh I know, I looking at it from another angle. It should be simple but somebody needs to hold on to it with both fist thereby creating a fight. Interesting the depth of what's ingrained. Just observing.

To complete the thought since I always assume it's quite obvious. It's a fight because it's not just an image on a box, it's about a way of thinking, so we all know how one side feels, the question is why it's a fight from the otherside, how does that picture affect the product, why is that image needed to identify that product. On some level it means something. It took lots of time, sweat, blood and tears to remove it. Whatever it is it runs very deep.
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It doesn’t take much to take the image off though.
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2elijah said:


donnyenglish said:



Let me know if this is racist enough.



Oh it’s racist enough alright. Reminds that as late in the 90s, I saw people selling ‘mammy caricatures’ similar t some of those images, along the highway, and at Flea markets in Tallahassee, Florida. I was shocked when I saw them. Haven’t been back there for years, so not sure if those items are still being sold there. [Edited 6/19/20 15:45pm]


I used to collect antique ceramic salt and pepper shakers and those little "house slave" figurines, sometimes salt and pepper shakers, can be super valuable at the flea markets. Valuable because, I believe, many were created during the Jim Crow era, and (hopefully) they are no longer made so they are highly collectible artifacts of "Americana". Ceramic figurines can depict any and everything from a particular era even if it is blantantly racist. Same with depictions of Mexicans. neutral



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I saw them all over Florida st that time. Saw many riding around with their confederate flags on their trucks, in n hats, shirts.. you name it.
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IanRG said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


When the Mob wins and is given in to they get embodend and keep going and going. I have been saying that someday they will go after things you think are okay..




.


So your answer to:


.


1 Efforts to stop police violence based on the race of the victim,


.


2 The removal of symbols of enemies of the State put up to stick it to the very people these racist enemies want to continue to enslave, and


.


3 The removal of racist stereotypes in advertising


.


is for all three that you believe we cannot allow these improvements because a different mob from Only's mob will be seen as winning. So you think we should reject these improvements because what if these racist mobs go back to winning and they come for something people think is good?


.


The answer is simple - reducing unequal and unnecessay racially based police violence is a commonsense good, removing extreme and unequal honour for racists who waged war on the USA put up as a counter to the civil rights movement is commonsense good, removing racist stereotypes from advertising is a commonsense good. Seeking to deny these good changes because some imagined bad change may be made sometime in the future is neither commonsense nor good.



As he ever demonstrated common sense?

And I have have had things taken away from me my whole life... I’m used to that. It’s nothing ny
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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



Don’t you dare complain about that, or voice your disapproval.,. Or else you might be considered part of a “mob”...
eek

Can you imagine if ‘voices’ were silent about racial injustices/prejudice? That would make racists too happy.


Exactly! They just want us to sit and be quiet, or buck dance and grin
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donnyenglish said:

Aunt Jemima does not have a grandson. Aunt Jemima is a fictional character from the minstrel shows in the 1800's that was a white man dressed in black face as a mammy slave. A drawing of that character was used to sell pancake mix and was eventually sold to the entity that owns it now. There were several black models that were used through the years for the photo of Aunt Jemima on the box depicting a black slave mammy serving pancakes to her slave owners. Nancy Green, a former slave, is the most well known model. Contrary to popular belief she was never a millionaire.

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Blows my mind that a man has to get tortured for 8 minutes and 46 seconds before society realizes how offensive Aunt Jemima is and blow my mind even more that some people still don't get it.


Amen to that. Even though I'm in my 50's, I'm still amazed at how clueless some people seem to be. Along with the Racism, some people seriously lack common sense, common courtesy and respect. It's wild to think that some people feel so entitled, that they see no problems with the offensive things that they and others do. Even after all these years(and all the problems), some people still aren't willing to educate themselves. And, be more inclusive.


Anyways, we live in pretty amazing times. If we don't kill ourselves off via another Civil War, we might start to see some substantial changes taking place.

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