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Many New Yorkers — like those above in Williamsburg, Brooklyn — are already acting as if the pandemic were over, with the mantra “We can’t stay inside forever.”



States like Florida, Texas and Arizona
are seeing spikes in new coronavirus infections, but state and local officials have been left to their own judgment about containment.

The White House is sending mixed messages and Washington’s top public health experts have been sidelined. The current pace of coronavirus-related deaths suggests a grim tally of more than 200,000 lost lives by the end of September.

But New York City, once the epicenter of the coronavirus in the U.S., is edging back to normal as deaths have dropped into the teens, from a high of 799 in April. Mayor Bill de Blasio said the city would enter Phase 2 of the long reopening process on Monday, allowing outdoor dining, in-store shopping and offices to reopen, with limits.

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I know Trump wants to pretend it's gone away - but it hasn't sad

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I know Trump wants to pretend it's gone away - but it hasn't sad

And he is holding his first campaign rally "the likes of which you have never seen" rolleyes tomorrow in Tulsa Oklahoma




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News interviewed a (maskless) middle-aged woman sitting in a lawn chair already lined up to go into the event scheduled for Satruday. She said sure she is afraid of getting sick, but she feels it is worth it to see trump speak because she supports him 100%.
They are like lemmings. neutral

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Reply #38 posted 06/19/20 8:24am

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maplenpg said:

https://twitter.com/natal...8082711552


I know Trump wants to pretend it's gone away - but it hasn't sad

And he is holding his first campaign rally "the likes of which you have never seen" rolleyes tomorrow in Tulsa Oklahoma

I saw that. Has social distancing gone in the US? xx

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DiminutiveRocker said:

And he is holding his first campaign rally "the likes of which you have never seen" rolleyes tomorrow in Tulsa Oklahoma

I saw that. Has social distancing gone in the US? xx

Soial distancing is not gone, but in certain states not everyone complies (see Orange County, CA vs LA County CA) and so there is a spike of infections. disbelief


It's like some governors are trying to apply the herd mentality to their constituents who are ignorant of how that ends... and now it's become political - as if wearing a mask is a statement rather than a collective preventative action taken to slow the spread of the virus.













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Reply #40 posted 06/19/20 8:37am

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EmmaMcG said:

I don't know. Perhaps another president would have acted quicker rather than dismiss it as a hoax? There's a reason why a huge number of countries are reporting less and less new cases and new deaths and yet America is still really high on both counts. Trump has completely mishandled the situation and even though Covid 19 is a worldwide pandemic, he will always be linked with it when discussing the outbreak in America. That's unavoidable now. It's just one in a long line of failures for Trump. Imagine four more years of that kind of "leadership".


nod hence the "thanks, trump" accents on many posts.

Also, I think Biden would have had no problem evoking the DPA (defense production act) to help mitigate the shortage of PPE and hospital equipment.


Accents aside, Truth is, we've have never had a clean Covid-19 thread here yet with the Wuhan titles etc. Fine. Now we have two - UK and Thanks Trump! US. For a WORLDWIDE ongoing pandemic.

I've posted MANY times on how Trump fucked up the pandemic response. Making it only about Trump is hyperbolic. He is not responsible for EVERY death, and it's an exaggeration to say he was.

We are not doing justice to the PANDEMIC if it's all couched in Trump's response bubble - without including the rest of the world. We don't know where the next hot spot is.

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Reply #41 posted 06/19/20 8:38am

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it'll be OK in OK. thanks to trump



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/06/19/oklahoma-coronavirus-covid-19-cases-rise-ahead-trump-tulsa-rally/3220736001/





Oklahoma coronavirus cases surge, hospitalizations rise ahead of Trump's Tulsa rally

Chris Casteel
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OKLAHOMA CITY — Oklahoma cases of COVID-19 rose by 450 on Thursday, blowing past the record 259 daily cases reported on Wednesday, as the surge of infections continued ahead of a massive rally for President Donald Trump and demonstrations set for this weekend in Tulsa.

The Oklahoma State Health Department’s daily update showed Oklahoma City added 80 cases and Tulsa added 82, as the state’s total rose to 9,354. There were two additional deaths, raising the total to 366.

The figures were released not long after Gov. Kevin Stitt participated at a roundtable at the White House and told Trump that Oklahoma was “one of the first states that has safely and measurably reopened.”

“Oklahoma is ready for your visit,” the governor said. “It’s going to be safe and everyone’s really really excited.”

Trump's Tulsa rally:Health experts fear campaign rally could turn into a coronavirus 'super spreader' event

Health issues? 'Don't come!':Oklahoma GOP senator says people with health issues shouldn't attend Tulsa Trump rally

The surge in COVID-19 cases in Oklahoma is being driven largely by increases among younger people, according to state Health Department figures that show 54% of the new cases in the past two weeks were people 35 and younger.

The age group most vulnerable to serious illness and death, those 65 and older, had the smallest percentage increase in cases from June 3 to 17, according to the Health Department data.

Meanwhile, hospitalizations topped 200 for the first time since May 20, rising to 211, according to information released Thursday evening.

Though Stitt has spoken frequently about the state flattening the curve of new cases, the reopening of state businesses since late April has led to the highest daily case numbers seen in Oklahoma since the pandemic began.

New records of case numbers have been set on several recent days.

An analysis of reports from June 3 through June 17 shows 2,099 new cases in that period, with 909 of them, or 43%, in the age group of 18 to 35. Overall, cases in that age group jumped by one-third over the previous total.

There were 190 new cases in the age group 5 to 17, accounting for 9% of the increase in the past two weeks. That was a 41% jump overall from that age group’s case total prior to June 3.

Among children younger than 5, there were 47 new cases, which was an increase of 32% in that age group since June 3.

The increase for people 65 and older was 200 cases from June 3-17, which was 11% above the overall total before June 3. People 65 and over account for 80% of the COVID-19 related deaths in Oklahoma.

At a news conference on Wednesday, Stitt cited the age groups in discussing the surge in cases.

“In the last two weeks, more than half of the cases have been people under 35 ... because people are getting back out,” he said.

“Since this pandemic started, we’ve had 3,171 (cases) in that age group, with just six deaths.”

Oklahoma City Mayor David Holt said Thursday on Twitter that “the recent spike in cases has not been matched with a spike in hospitalizations & deaths because the new cases were disproportionately driven by people under the age of 35. That was and is a new twist in our city’s pandemic story.”

Holt tweeted, “Case numbers matter but it also matters who is accounting for those cases and how the virus is affecting them.”



Health Department officials have said in the past week that they expected COVID-19 cases to rise as the state reopened in phases over the past several weeks. No specific outbreaks at a business or long term care facility have been cited in the recent surge; protests that followed the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer have also not been cited.

State Health Commissioner Lance Frye said Wednesday, “Once you reopen, we are expecting an increase in numbers quite frankly because as people get out and they move around more. As businesses open up, you're going to have more increased contact and you’re going to have an increase in numbers.”

The surge in cases comes as tens of thousands of people plan to gather in Tulsa this weekend for Juneteenth activities, Trump’s re-election rally and demonstrations connected to the rally.

Public health officials have cautioned that participants risk infection or spreading the disease. The Trump campaign announced that it would take temperatures at the door and distribute masks and hand sanitizer, though people won’t have to wear the masks.

The management company for the BOK Center released a statement saying it will "encourage all attendees to remain masked throughout the duration of the event until they exit the building. Signage reminding attendees of precautions will be placed throughout the building."

Frye also suggested that people be tested before and after the events this weekend.

Stitt was tested for the first time on Thursday before entering the White House for a roundtable discussion on small businesses. His test results were negative.

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Reply #42 posted 06/19/20 8:40am

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"Choose your battles". As fucked up as it is, Trump rallies are legal, just like spontaneous protesting is supposed to be.

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Reply #43 posted 06/19/20 8:45am

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Choose our battles. As fucked up as it it, Trump rallies are legal, just like spontaneous protesting is supposed to be.

Who said the trump rallies were illegal? It is irresponsible because he is having it in an enclosed arena and masks are suggested but not required. The protests were all outside and pose a lower risk of infection, especially if masks were worn.











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Reply #44 posted 06/19/20 8:51am

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Choose our battles. As fucked up as it it, Trump rallies are legal, just like spontaneous protesting is supposed to be.

Who said the trump rallies were illegal? It is irresponsible because he is having it in an enclosed arena and masks are suggested but not required. The protests were all outside and pose a lower risk of infection, especially if masks were worn.

Whatever. There's no tit-for-tat here - It's ALL risky. That's the problem with politicizing Covid-19 in the first place. It's worldwide.

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Reply #45 posted 06/19/20 8:51am

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maplenpg said:

I saw that. Has social distancing gone in the US? xx

Soial distancing is not gone, but in certain states not everyone complies (see Orange County, CA vs LA County CA) and so there is a spike of infections. disbelief


It's like some governors are trying to apply the herd mentality to their constituents who are ignorant of how that ends... and now it's become political - as if wearing a mask is a statement rather than a collective preventative action taken to slow the spread of the virus.













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It's so annoying when a country gets divided between those that want to go for herd immunity, and those who want suppression. We have a lot of that over here - at least Sweden were more open about what they were doing, in the UK we just seem to get lie after lie. Masks are a huge bone of contention here too, although they are only required on public transport. It's not so much a political choice over here whether to wear a mask or not, more a vanity choice sadly. But Boris, like Trump, doesn't believe in masks so it'll never be enforced properly.

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Reply #46 posted 06/19/20 10:04am

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maplenpg said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Soial distancing is not gone, but in certain states not everyone complies (see Orange County, CA vs LA County CA) and so there is a spike of infections. disbelief


It's like some governors are trying to apply the herd mentality to their constituents who are ignorant of how that ends... and now it's become political - as if wearing a mask is a statement rather than a collective preventative action taken to slow the spread of the virus.













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It's so annoying when a country gets divided between those that want to go for herd immunity, and those who want suppression. We have a lot of that over here - at least Sweden were more open about what they were doing, in the UK we just seem to get lie after lie. Masks are a huge bone of contention here too, although they are only required on public transport. It's not so much a political choice over here whether to wear a mask or not, more a vanity choice sadly. But Boris, like Trump, doesn't believe in masks so it'll never be enforced properly.


Wearing a mask takes such small effort but can yield great results. They are not 100%, but even at 80% effective, IF everyone is wearing them it can mitigate the spread greatly. While I understand herd immunity concept, I think I am more inclined to favor the slower but less-lives-lost method of containing the spread and alleviating the pressure on healthcare workers while science works on a super effective treatment or vaccine. There is still so much scientist are learning about this virus and really the whole world is responding on the fly.

I hate that the choice to wear a mask or not has become political or even vain for that matter. And world leaders are exhibiting such irresponsible behavior by not wearing them - and Johnson who actually had it should not want to wish it on anyone but I guess he figures it's survival of the fittest? It's funny, I almost feel as if masks have become the new accessory. If this lasts into the holidays or better yet, "award season," I predict designer masks to go with formal wear. And I propose that all film award shows be at outdoor arenas (i.e. Hollywood Bowl) - that is, if people can ever get back in theaters to watch movies sigh








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DiminutiveRocker said:

maplenpg said:

It's so annoying when a country gets divided between those that want to go for herd immunity, and those who want suppression. We have a lot of that over here - at least Sweden were more open about what they were doing, in the UK we just seem to get lie after lie. Masks are a huge bone of contention here too, although they are only required on public transport. It's not so much a political choice over here whether to wear a mask or not, more a vanity choice sadly. But Boris, like Trump, doesn't believe in masks so it'll never be enforced properly.


Wearing a mask takes such small effort but can yield great results. They are not 100%, but even at 80% effective, IF everyone is wearing them it can mitigate the spread greatly. While I understand herd immunity concept, I think I am more inclined to favor the slower but less-lives-lost method of containing the spread and alleviating the pressure on healthcare workers while science works on a super effective treatment or vaccine. There is still so much scientist are learning about this virus and really the whole world is responding on the fly.

I hate that the choice to wear a mask or not has become political or even vain for that matter. And world leaders are exhibiting such irresponsible behavior by not wearing them - and Jphns who had it should not want to wish it on anyone but I guess he figures it's survival of the fittest? It's funny, I almost feel as if masks have become the new accessory. If this lasts into the holidays or better yet, "award season," I predict designer masks to go with formal wear. And I propose that all film award shows be at outdoor arenas (i.e. Hollywood Bowl) - that is, if people can ever get back in theaters to watch movies sigh








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They think wearing masks makes them look weak... Part of the who's got the bigger dick club... rolleyes

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DiminutiveRocker said:


Wearing a mask takes such small effort but can yield great results. They are not 100%, but even at 80% effective, IF everyone is wearing them it can mitigate the spread greatly. While I understand herd immunity concept, I think I am more inclined to favor the slower but less-lives-lost method of containing the spread and alleviating the pressure on healthcare workers while science works on a super effective treatment or vaccine. There is still so much scientist are learning about this virus and really the whole world is responding on the fly.

I hate that the choice to wear a mask or not has become political or even vain for that matter. And world leaders are exhibiting such irresponsible behavior by not wearing them - and Jphns who had it should not want to wish it on anyone but I guess he figures it's survival of the fittest? It's funny, I almost feel as if masks have become the new accessory. If this lasts into the holidays or better yet, "award season," I predict designer masks to go with formal wear. And I propose that all film award shows be at outdoor arenas (i.e. Hollywood Bowl) - that is, if people can ever get back in theaters to watch movies sigh








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They think wearing masks makes them look weak... Part of the who's got the bigger dick club... rolleyes



The bigger the mask, the bigger the dick - where does that leave trump and johnson? lol

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purplethunder3121 said:

They think wearing masks makes them look weak... Part of the who's got the bigger dick club... rolleyes



The bigger the mask, the bigger the dick - where does that leave trump and johnson? lol

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trump's miss-management continues: At the rally he called for testing to be slowed down because it is finding too many infected people.

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Once more his handlers have had to cover for him with the claim that this was said in jest.

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trump's miss-management continues: At the rally he called for testing to be slowed down because it is finding too many infected people.

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Once more his handlers have had to cover for him with the claim that this was said in jest.


He did not bother to mention, much less offier any condolence or sympathy for the families of 122k people who have died from the virus, instead he "jokes" about the testing? I don't believe he was joking, I am sure the thinks that less tests mean less infections. Idiot.


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But it's just the Kung Flu, right?

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Miami is halting phase 3 opening because covid is spiking, people and establishments are not complying with restrictions, masks, social distancing. disbelief


WHAT AREN'T PEOPLE GETTING?

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IanRG said:

trump's miss-management continues: At the rally he called for testing to be slowed down because it is finding too many infected people.

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Once more his handlers have had to cover for him with the claim that this was said in jest.


He did not bother to mention, much less offier any condolence or sympathy for the families of 122k people who have died from the virus, instead he "jokes" about the testing? I don't believe he was joking, I am sure the thinks that less tests mean less infections. Idiot.


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Exactly - It is like his handlers fooled two people here that trump never meant taking Chloroquine unless you were hospitalised by Covid 19 and under emergency treatment by a doctor. Yes, trump is that uncaring and stupid and his handlers main job is cleaning up each day's mess.

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DiminutiveRocker said:


He did not bother to mention, much less offier any condolence or sympathy for the families of 122k people who have died from the virus, instead he "jokes" about the testing? I don't believe he was joking, I am sure the thinks that less tests mean less infections. Idiot.


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Exactly - It is like his handlers fooled two people here that trump never meant taking Chloroquine unless you were hospitalised by Covid 19 and under emergency treatment by a doctor. Yes, trump is that uncaring and stupid and his handlers main job is cleaning up each day's mess.


nod Yes, yes.

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Young people are getting and spreading covid-19.... I do not understand why staying home as muich as possile, wearing a mask and social distancing is so hard if it means not transmitting it to a loved one who may not survive. neutral



https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html

Young people in the US South and West are increasingly getting coronavirus


The focus on young coronavirus-positive patients comes as nearly half of states are reporting a rise in new positive cases and some continue to break records in their daily reported cases. Florida on Monday surpassed 100,000 total coronavirus cases, according to data released by the Florida Department of Health.
The increases highlight America's systemic failure to control the pandemic, a sharp contrast to its trajectory in Europe and Asia. There, coronavirus cases sharply increased in early 2020, were met with fierce efforts to stop its spread and have since rapidly declined.
In the US, the first wave of coronaviru...isn't over. In fact, cases took just a small dip and are now increasing months after the pandemic hit American shores.
"I don't think we have the luxury of talking about a second wave right now because we have not gotten out of the first wave," CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta said. "And it's not clear that we will get out of the first wave. Instead of actually having a true ebb and flow, it may just be micro and macro peaks for the foreseeable future."

The pandemic shows no signs of weakening in the US, said Michael Osterholm, head of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.
"I think this is more like a forest fire. I don't think that this is going to slow down," Osterholm told NBC's Chuck Todd during an appearance on "Meet the Press" on Sunday.

"I think that wherever there's wood to burn, this fire's going to burn -- and right now we have a lot of susceptible people," Osterholm said. "Right now, I don't see this slowing down through the summer or into the fall. I don't think we're going to see one, two and three waves. I think we're going to just see one very, very difficult forest fire of cases."

Masks and social distancing

Across the US, experts are highlighting the need for social distancing and face covers. But parts of the country remain divided on wearing face masks in public, and more officials have had to consider making face covers in public a requirement.
"Masking has become controversial. It shouldn't be," Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration, said on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday. "It's a simple intervention. It's a collective action we can all take to help protect our fellow citizens and also protect ourselves and try to reopen the economy safely."

As those discussions take place, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says it will soon make an updated recommendation on the public health benefits on masks, a senior agency official told CNN.
The CDC has so far been conducting a scientific review on the topic, and a senior official with knowledge of the review says researchers are studying whether masks are not only "good for source control -- and keeping you from giving it to others -- but we're also seeing if masks are going to protect you from getting (Covid-19) yourself."

Dr. Zeke Emanuel, who was a health care adviser to President Barack Obama and is a current adviser to Joe Biden's presidential campaign, said the initial resistance to widespread mask usage was wrong.
"Closing down businesses -- it's clear what the cost is. Wearing a mask -- there's no cost. And I think we got it wrong," he said.




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The EU is managing it - why can't we?

"His wretched incompetence and imbecility have weakened the country, delighted our adversaries and terrified our friends. Never in the annals of American history has a bigger failure and joke risen as high as the @realDonaldTrump" - S. Schmidt
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