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Reply #330 posted 06/16/20 3:48pm

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BREAKING:

911 dispatch recording of Floyd is released. Even the dispatcher (I guess she could see what was happening via the police cams? Unclear about that) reported that several officers were sitting on the suspect and she had never seen that before - usually they call in a "take down"

Evidence.

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Reply #331 posted 06/16/20 5:01pm

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Yes we know, but it's a still stupid message. The right is running with it. They will campaign and use it agaisnt democrats..as they are doing now.

If people need to explain it, the message is a failure. Not only that, some take the message at face value.

2elijah said:

v10letblues said:

The defunding matra is moronic.

What could have been easier than to just phrase it better than to confuse or have be amunition for the right. Unless it's by design to sabotage a movement.

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And some just go with it and others double down with the stupidity instead taking a quick moment and just thinking how it may affect the national election.

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Good to see the party took notice of stupid this is

Top congressional Democrats steer clear of 'defund the police' rhetoric

By Manu Raju and Ali Zaslav, CNN

Updated 7:11 PM ET, Mon June 8, 2020

CNN)Top congressional Democrats are steering clear of the growing calls by activists to "defund the police," saying they sympathize with the intent behind the movement but are concerned that the rhetoric could underc...nationwide.

"I think it can be used as a distraction -- and that's my concern," said Rep. Karen Bass, chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, and a lead sponsor of the Democrats' new bill t... standards. "Because what I said is what I believe is the real intent, which is to address the root causes of crime."
The sentiment was echoed by top Democrats on Monday after calls to cut funding for local law enforcement picked up steam at protests across the country sparked by the death of George Floyd after a police officer in Minneapolis knelt on his neck.
The city council there announ...department, though the city's mayor, Jacob Frey, later said he wouldn't seek "to abolish the police."

Lmao, comfort Once again, it’s a matter of explaining that ‘it’s not about getting rid of police departments’. I realize you don’t like the term, but it sure has some police dept heads already making changes, even to the point NY Gov Cuomo threatened that if police depts in NY state, don’t make agency changes, they will lose state funding. I doubt the term will lose support for Biden. [Edited 6/16/20 6:03am]

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Reply #332 posted 06/16/20 5:15pm

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v10letblues said:

Yes we know, but it's a still stupid message. The right is running with it. They will campaign and use it agaisnt democrats..as they are doing now.


If people need to explain it, the message is a failure. Not only that, some take the message at face value.





2elijah said:


v10letblues said:

The defunding matra is moronic.


What could have been easier than to just phrase it better than to confuse or have be amunition for the right. Unless it's by design to sabotage a movement.



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And some just go with it and others double down with the stupidity instead taking a quick moment and just thinking how it may affect the national election.



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Good to see the party took notice of stupid this is


Top congressional Democrats steer clear of 'defund the police' rhetoric




By Manu Raju and Ali Zaslav, CNN



Updated 7:11 PM ET, Mon June 8, 2020





CNN)Top congressional Democrats are steering clear of the growing calls by activists to "defund the police," saying they sympathize with the intent behind the movement but are concerned that the rhetoric could underc...nationwide.



"I think it can be used as a distraction -- and that's my concern," said Rep. Karen Bass, chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, and a lead sponsor of the Democrats' new bill t... standards. "Because what I said is what I believe is the real intent, which is to address the root causes of crime."

The sentiment was echoed by top Democrats on Monday after calls to cut funding for local law enforcement picked up steam at protests across the country sparked by the death of George Floyd after a police officer in Minneapolis knelt on his neck.

The city council there announ...department, though the city's mayor, Jacob Frey, later said he wouldn't seek "to abolish the police."



Lmao, comfort Once again, it’s a matter of explaining that ‘it’s not about getting rid of police departments’. I realize you don’t like the term, but it sure has some police dept heads already making changes, even to the point NY Gov Cuomo threatened that if police depts in NY state, don’t make agency changes, they will lose state funding. I doubt the term will lose support for Biden. [Edited 6/16/20 6:03am]

[Edited 6/16/20 17:02pm]


You’re entitled to your opinion on it. It doesn’t change who I’m voting for, so with that being said I’m pretty much done with discussing it.
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Reply #333 posted 06/16/20 5:16pm

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BREAKING:

911 dispatch recording of Floyd is released. Even the dispatcher (I guess she could see what was happening via the police cams? Unclear about that) reported that several officers were sitting on the suspect and she had never seen that before - usually they call in a "take down"

Evidence.




Wow, evidence for sure.
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Reply #334 posted 06/16/20 5:19pm

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poppys said:




2elijah said:


poppys said:
Lol.

Had a very long interesting conversation with an African American man a few months ago when we were both waiting to get tires. We got on the subject of cops and he told me he's married to a white woman 20 years, 5 kids, and his brother-in-law is a (white) cop in a smaller Louisiana town. His brother-in law told him that it is in the training to target black/brown people. Blatantly and specifically in the training - no ifs ands or buts about it.



eek disbelief


I believe it.



I believe it too. I remember when Guiliani was mayor of NYC, and he sic’d the cops on the Black and Brown communities, by any means necessary.
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Reply #335 posted 06/16/20 5:22pm

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

eek disbelief


I believe it.

I believe it too. I remember when Guiliani was mayor of NYC, and he sic’d the cops on the Black and Brown communities, by any means necessary.


Guiliani's been a fuckhead for a very long time. neutral

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Reply #336 posted 06/16/20 6:46pm

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2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:


eek disbelief


I believe it.



I believe it too. I remember when Guiliani was mayor of NYC, and he sic’d the cops on the Black and Brown communities, by any means necessary.


Guiliani's been a fuckhead for a very long time. neutral


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Reply #337 posted 06/16/20 6:49pm

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

eek disbelief

I believe it.


I believe it too. I remember when Guiliani was mayor of NYC, and he sic’d the cops on the Black and Brown communities, by any means necessary.

Yes, Completely believeable solid guy who just happened to have a brother-in-law on the force who levelled with him. He was dead serious telling me this. We had been talking for quite awhile and already discussed Trump and politics etc before the police part. He said it a few times - "It's in the training".

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Reply #338 posted 06/16/20 7:11pm

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Rashad Brooks case is maybe not looking good for murder. A sticking point is the taser and if it's a deadly weapon. The Atlanta cops were charged in that car incident during the protests - when they dragged those kids out and tased them. Still hoping. And there are lesser charges they can do.

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Rashad Brooks case is maybe not looking good for murder. A sticking point is the taser and if it's a deadly weapon. The Atlanta cops were charged in that car incident during the protests - when they dragged those kids out and tased them. Still hoping. And there are lesser charges they can do.


They shot him in the back, and will get away with it. Shame.
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Reply #341 posted 06/17/20 3:21am

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2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:


eek disbelief

I believe it.




I believe it too. I remember when Guiliani was mayor of NYC, and he sic’d the cops on the Black and Brown communities, by any means necessary.


Yes, Completely believeable solid guy who just happened to have a brother-in-law on the force who levelled with him. He was dead serious telling me this. We had been talking for quite awhile and already discussed Trump and politics etc before the police part. He said it a few times - "It's in the training".


I don’t doubt it. Rogue/racist cops hunt Blacks as their prey. They use Black Americans to fill the cities’ pockets. You’d think this country didn’t do enough evil and damage to the ancestors of Black Americans? Seems for some it’s nver enough. Oh the blood that has shed and is embedded in the soil of America. Shame, shame.
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Reply #342 posted 06/17/20 3:47am

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And what are the percentages of crime in white neighborhoods vs. black neighborhoods? Fact is there are more police on duty in black neighborhoods because that is where most crime happens. Ever been to West Baltimore? And Chicago has already passed last year's murder rate and it is only June. So the chances for a cop to run into a criminal who resists arrest are higher in those neighborhoods. Therefore the chance that they will get shot is higher. Simple facts. Does not make it right obviously. Either way, glad to see some real changes coming out of all of this, like I called for a while back in this thread part one (federal changes) like no chokeholds. Hopefully more will come soon.

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This article right here, well, they’ll never get their lives back. Police reform now.


RIP rose

https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html

These are the ordinary things they were doing when they were killed by police

By AJ Willingham, CNN
Updated 9:38 PM ET, Tue June 16, 2020

(CNN)Sleeping. Driving. Standing outside of an apartment building. These are some of the last things some black Americans were doing before they were approached by police for one reason or another. For all of them, the encounter ended in death.

Standing outside his apartment building

Amadou Diallo (1999)
Diallo, 22, was approached and shot by plainclothes police officers in New York City who claimed to have mistaken him for a rape suspect.
Standing behind the door in his home

Kenneth Chamberlain (2011)
Chamberlain, 68, was shot after police in White Plains, New York, broke down his door. Chamberlain wore a medical alert button for a heart condition, and it had accidentally gone off

*****+
Seeking help after a car crash

Jonathan Ferrell (2013)
Ferrell, 24, was seeking assistance after crashing his car in Charlotte, North Carolina. He knocked on the door of a nearby house. The home owner called police. When they arrived, they said they saw Ferrell running toward them, and one of the officers shot him.


*****+

Standing outside of a store

Eric Garner
Garner, 43, was choked by a New York Police officer who was trying to arrest him on suspicion of selling individual cigarettes.

****¥¥¥
Playing with a fake gun

Tamir Rice (2014)
Tamir, 12, was playing with a pellet gun in a park in Cleveland, Ohio. Police who arrived on the scene shot the boy within two second of exiting their car.

*****

Holding a BB gun for sale

John Crawford III (2014)
Crawford, 22, was at a Walmart holding a pellet gun he picked up off a store shelf. A 911 call reported a man walking around with a rifle and "waving it." Crawford was on his cell phone while holding the pellet gun as police responded and he was shot in seconds.

*****
Driving

Philando Castile (Garner, 43, was choked by a New York Police officer who was trying to arrest him on suspicion of selling individual cigarettes.
Playing with a fake gun

*****++

Selling DVDs outside a gas station

Alton Sterling (2016)
Sterling, 37, was packing up DVDs outside of a convenience store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, when police arrived to respond to a call about a man waving a gun at the establishment. They shot Sterling within 90 seconds of arriving.

*****
Riding in the passenger's seat of a car

Jordan Edwards (2017)
Jordan, 15, was leaving a private party with his two brothers and two friends when police responded to gunshots in the area. One officer tried to stop the vehicle, and when the driver didn't stop, he fired, hitting Edwards.

*****++
Holding a cell phone

Stephon Clark (2018)
Clark, 22, was standing in his grandmother's backyard in Sacramento when he was approached by police responding to a 911 call that a man wearing a black hoodie was breaking car windows. Police fired, and later said they believed Clark was pointing an "object" at them. The only object later found at the scene was a cell phone.

*****+

Sitting in his apartment

Botham Jean (2018)

Jean, 26, was shot and killed by an off-duty police officer in his apartment in Dallas, which the officer had mistaken for her own.

*****
Playing video games

Atatiana Jefferson (2019)

Jefferson, 28, was playing video games with her nephew when officers approached her home in Fort Worth, Texas. A neighbor had called police, worried about an open door at the home. Hearing a sound in the backyard, Jefferson reportedly pulled a gun out of her purse and pointed it out the window. One of the responding officers saw her and fired through the window, killing her.

*****

Sleeping in her home

Breonna Taylor (2020)
Taylor, 26, was asleep in her Louisville, Kentucky home when police forced their way in while serving a no-knock warrant. She was shot and killed.


*****

Sitting in a car

George Floyd (2020)
Floyd, 46, was approached by Minneapolis police officers as he sat in a car. They were responding to a call about a counterfeit bill being used to buy cigarettes. As the conflict escalated, Floyd was pulled from the SUV, cuffed, and died after an officer knelt on his neck on the pavement for nearly nine minutes.
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Reply #344 posted 06/17/20 6:03am

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2elijah said:

#SAYTHEIRNAMES This article right here, well, they’ll never get their lives back. Police reform now. RIP rose https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html These are the ordinary things they were doing when they were killed by police By AJ Willingham, CNN Updated 9:38 PM ET, Tue June 16, 2020 (CNN)Sleeping. Driving. Standing outside of an apartment building. These are some of the last things some black Americans were doing before they were approached by police for one reason or another. For all of them, the encounter ended in death. Standing outside his apartment building Amadou Diallo (1999) Diallo, 22, was approached and shot by plainclothes police officers in New York City who claimed to have mistaken him for a rape suspect. Standing behind the door in his home Kenneth Chamberlain (2011) Chamberlain, 68, was shot after police in White Plains, New York, broke down his door. Chamberlain wore a medical alert button for a heart condition, and it had accidentally gone off *******+ Seeking help after a car crash Jonathan Ferrell (2013) Ferrell, 24, was seeking assistance after crashing his car in Charlotte, North Carolina. He knocked on the door of a nearby house. The home owner called police. When they arrived, they said they saw Ferrell running toward them, and one of the officers shot him. *****+ Standing outside of a store Eric Garner Garner, 43, was choked by a New York Police officer who was trying to arrest him on suspicion of selling individual cigarettes. ****¥¥¥ Playing with a fake gun Tamir Rice (2014) Tamir, 12, was playing with a pellet gun in a park in Cleveland, Ohio. Police who arrived on the scene shot the boy within two second of exiting their car. ******* Holding a BB gun for sale John Crawford III (2014) Crawford, 22, was at a Walmart holding a pellet gun he picked up off a store shelf. A 911 call reported a man walking around with a rifle and "waving it." Crawford was on his cell phone while holding the pellet gun as police responded and he was shot in seconds. ******** Driving Philando Castile (Garner, 43, was choked by a New York Police officer who was trying to arrest him on suspicion of selling individual cigarettes. Playing with a fake gun ******++ Selling DVDs outside a gas station Alton Sterling (2016) Sterling, 37, was packing up DVDs outside of a convenience store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, when police arrived to respond to a call about a man waving a gun at the establishment. They shot Sterling within 90 seconds of arriving. *********** Riding in the passenger's seat of a car Jordan Edwards (2017) Jordan, 15, was leaving a private party with his two brothers and two friends when police responded to gunshots in the area. One officer tried to stop the vehicle, and when the driver didn't stop, he fired, hitting Edwards. ********++ Holding a cell phone Stephon Clark (2018) Clark, 22, was standing in his grandmother's backyard in Sacramento when he was approached by police responding to a 911 call that a man wearing a black hoodie was breaking car windows. Police fired, and later said they believed Clark was pointing an "object" at them. The only object later found at the scene was a cell phone. ******+ Sitting in his apartment Botham Jean (2018) Jean, 26, was shot and killed by an off-duty police officer in his apartment in Dallas, which the officer had mistaken for her own. ********** Playing video games Atatiana Jefferson (2019) Jefferson, 28, was playing video games with her nephew when officers approached her home in Fort Worth, Texas. A neighbor had called police, worried about an open door at the home. Hearing a sound in the backyard, Jefferson reportedly pulled a gun out of her purse and pointed it out the window. One of the responding officers saw her and fired through the window, killing her. ********** Sleeping in her home Breonna Taylor (2020) Taylor, 26, was asleep in her Louisville, Kentucky home when police forced their way in while serving a no-knock warrant. She was shot and killed. ************ Sitting in a car George Floyd (2020) Floyd, 46, was approached by Minneapolis police officers as he sat in a car. They were responding to a call about a counterfeit bill being used to buy cigarettes. As the conflict escalated, [b]Floyd was pulled from the SUV, cuffed, and died after an officer knelt on his neck on the pavement for nearly nine minutes.


This list is so long - and it's just a fraction. When the Attorney General would not bring charges against the cops who murdered Alton Sterling, it was a terrible time here. People went about their business visibly and understandably upset and angry. That tired old trope that white people are "ignorant" really means "mentally ill". Can you imagine the reverse and that list was all people of white ethnicity?

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2elijah said:


#SAYTHEIRNAMES This article right here, well, they’ll never get their lives back. Police reform now. RIP rose https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html These are the ordinary things they were doing when they were killed by police By AJ Willingham, CNN Updated 9:38 PM ET, Tue June 16, 2020 (CNN)Sleeping. Driving. Standing outside of an apartment building. These are some of the last things some black Americans were doing before they were approached by police for one reason or another. For all of them, the encounter ended in death. Standing outside his apartment building Amadou Diallo (1999) Diallo, 22, was approached and shot by plainclothes police officers in New York City who claimed to have mistaken him for a rape suspect. Standing behind the door in his home Kenneth Chamberlain (2011) Chamberlain, 68, was shot after police in White Plains, New York, broke down his door. Chamberlain wore a medical alert button for a heart condition, and it had accidentally gone off *****+ Seeking help after a car crash Jonathan Ferrell (2013) Ferrell, 24, was seeking assistance after crashing his car in Charlotte, North Carolina. He knocked on the door of a nearby house. The home owner called police. When they arrived, they said they saw Ferrell running toward them, and one of the officers shot him. *****+ Standing outside of a store Eric Garner Garner, 43, was choked by a New York Police officer who was trying to arrest him on suspicion of selling individual cigarettes. ****¥¥¥ Playing with a fake gun Tamir Rice (2014) Tamir, 12, was playing with a pellet gun in a park in Cleveland, Ohio. Police who arrived on the scene shot the boy within two second of exiting their car. ***** Holding a BB gun for sale John Crawford III (2014) Crawford, 22, was at a Walmart holding a pellet gun he picked up off a store shelf. A 911 call reported a man walking around with a rifle and "waving it." Crawford was on his cell phone while holding the pellet gun as police responded and he was shot in seconds. ***** Driving Philando Castile (Garner, 43, was choked by a New York Police officer who was trying to arrest him on suspicion of selling individual cigarettes. Playing with a fake gun *****++ Selling DVDs outside a gas station Alton Sterling (2016) Sterling, 37, was packing up DVDs outside of a convenience store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, when police arrived to respond to a call about a man waving a gun at the establishment. They shot Sterling within 90 seconds of arriving. ***** Riding in the passenger's seat of a car Jordan Edwards (2017) Jordan, 15, was leaving a private party with his two brothers and two friends when police responded to gunshots in the area. One officer tried to stop the vehicle, and when the driver didn't stop, he fired, hitting Edwards. *****++ Holding a cell phone Stephon Clark (2018) Clark, 22, was standing in his grandmother's backyard in Sacramento when he was approached by police responding to a 911 call that a man wearing a black hoodie was breaking car windows. Police fired, and later said they believed Clark was pointing an "object" at them. The only object later found at the scene was a cell phone. *****+ Sitting in his apartment Botham Jean (2018) Jean, 26, was shot and killed by an off-duty police officer in his apartment in Dallas, which the officer had mistaken for her own. ***** Playing video games Atatiana Jefferson (2019) Jefferson, 28, was playing video games with her nephew when officers approached her home in Fort Worth, Texas. A neighbor had called police, worried about an open door at the home. Hearing a sound in the backyard, Jefferson reportedly pulled a gun out of her purse and pointed it out the window. One of the responding officers saw her and fired through the window, killing her. ***** Sleeping in her home Breonna Taylor (2020) Taylor, 26, was asleep in her Louisville, Kentucky home when police forced their way in while serving a no-knock warrant. She was shot and killed. ***** Sitting in a car George Floyd (2020) Floyd, 46, was approached by Minneapolis police officers as he sat in a car. They were responding to a call about a counterfeit bill being used to buy cigarettes. As the conflict escalated, Floyd was pulled from the SUV, cuffed, and died after an officer knelt on his neck on the pavement for nearly nine minutes.



This list is so long - and it's just a fraction. When the Attorney General would not bring charges against the cops who murdered Alton Sterling, it was a terrible time here. People went about their business visibly and understandably upset and angry. That tired old trope that white people are "ignorant" really means "mentally ill". [b]Can you imagine the reverse and that list was all people of white ethnicity?




Oh I certainly can.
I’ll tell you one thing though, I hope any of those cops who got away/get away with the murder of those victims on that list in that article, will feel the wrath of God.
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And what are the percentages of crime in white neighborhoods vs. black neighborhoods? Fact is there are more police on duty in black neighborhoods because that is where most crime happens. Ever been to West Baltimore? And Chicago has already passed last year's murder rate and it is only June. So the chances for a cop to run into a criminal who resists arrest are higher in those neighborhoods. Therefore the chance that they will get shot is higher. Simple facts. Does not make it right obviously. Either way, glad to see some real changes coming out of all of this, like I called for a while back in this thread part one (federal changes) like no chokeholds. Hopefully more will come soon.

so basically, your argument is black people commit more crimes?
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And what are the percentages of crime in white neighborhoods vs. black neighborhoods? Fact is there are more police on duty in black neighborhoods because that is where most crime happens. Ever been to West Baltimore? And Chicago has already passed last year's murder rate and it is only June. So the chances for a cop to run into a criminal who resists arrest are higher in those neighborhoods. Therefore the chance that they will get shot is higher. Simple facts. Does not make it right obviously. Either way, glad to see some real changes coming out of all of this, like I called for a while back in this thread part one (federal changes) like no chokeholds. Hopefully more will come soon.


so basically, your argument is black people commit more crimes?
.

Reading this, he would be scared to death in my neighborhood and I love it! A lot of white people are not around black/people of color, and have no clue of what it's actually like to live in a mixed neighborhood. They are afraid of all black people.

There already ARE chokehold laws - didn't help Eric Garner. And if dude is talking about the Trump fake no-chokehold photo-op yesterday, with NO mention of African Americans or WHY they had to do this, this is not real change.

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poppys said:


This list is so long - and it's just a fraction. When the Attorney General would not bring charges against the cops who murdered Alton Sterling, it was a terrible time here. People went about their business visibly and understandably upset and angry. That tired old trope that white people are "ignorant" really means "mentally ill". [b]Can you imagine the reverse and that list was all people of white ethnicity?


Oh I certainly can. I’ll tell you one thing though, I hope any of those cops who got away/get away with the murder of those victims on that list in that article, will feel the wrath of God.


Oh, I hope so everyday. Seeing people in physical and mental pain cause by systemic racism makes me ill. The oppressors still think they can "solve" this their way. It is literally the definition of insanity. I have argued about this with other white people. WHY do you want to be hated? WHY?

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2elijah said:


poppys said:



This list is so long - and it's just a fraction. When the Attorney General would not bring charges against the cops who murdered Alton Sterling, it was a terrible time here. People went about their business visibly and understandably upset and angry. That tired old trope that white people are "ignorant" really means "mentally ill". Can you imagine the reverse and that list was all people of white ethnicity?




Oh I certainly can. I’ll tell you one thing though, I hope any of those cops who got away/get away with the murder of those victims on that list in that article, will feel the wrath of God.



Oh, I hope so everyday. Seeing people in physical and mental pain cause by systemic racism makes me ill. [b]The oppressors still think they can "solve" this their way. It is literally the definition of insanity.
I have argued about this with other white people. WHY do you want to be hated? WHY?


@ bolded part - unfortunately ‘their way’ has done nothing but cause destruction. Reminds me of the police officers that took that racist Dylan Roof for some lunch, knowing he had just assassinated, nine innocent Black Americans, who welcomed him into their church. I guess some folks are just so infected with racial prejudice they comfort racist murderers. Talk about insanity.. there it is.
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Oh, I hope so everyday. Seeing people in physical and mental pain cause by systemic racism makes me ill. The oppressors still think they can "solve" this their way. It is literally the definition of insanity. I have argued about this with other white people. WHY do you want to be hated? WHY?

@ bolded part - unfortunately ‘their way’ has done nothing but cause destruction. Reminds me of the police officers that took that racist Dylan Roof for some lunch, knowing he had just assassinated, nine innocent Black Americans, who welcomed him into their church. I guess some folks are just so infected with racial prejudice they comfort racist murderers. Talk about insanity.. there it is.

i mean... look at all the racism and the coddling of racists on this site alone

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Reply #351 posted 06/17/20 7:49am

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2elijah said:

poppys said:

Oh, I hope so everyday. Seeing people in physical and mental pain cause by systemic racism makes me ill. The oppressors still think they can "solve" this their way. It is literally the definition of insanity. I have argued about this with other white people. WHY do you want to be hated? WHY?


@ bolded part - unfortunately ‘their way’ has done nothing but cause destruction. Reminds me of the police officers that took that racist Dylan Roof for some lunch, knowing he had just assassinated, nine innocent Black Americans, who welcomed him into their church. I guess some folks are just so infected with racial prejudice they comfort racist murderers. Talk about insanity.. there it is.

You are so right. Dylan Roof being offered! Burger King after murdering people at a CHURCH SERVICE should NEVER be forgotten. Then the cops act like they're his parents and he stole the car for a joyride, sickening.

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2elijah said:


poppys said:


Oh, I hope so everyday. Seeing people in physical and mental pain cause by systemic racism makes me ill. The oppressors still think they can "solve" this their way. It is literally the definition of insanity. I have argued about this with other white people. WHY do you want to be hated? WHY?




@ bolded part - unfortunately ‘their way’ has done nothing but cause destruction. Reminds me of the police officers that took that racist Dylan Roof for some lunch, knowing he had just assassinated, nine innocent Black Americans, who welcomed him into their church. I guess some folks are just so infected with racial prejudice they comfort racist murderers. Talk about insanity.. there it is.


You are so right. Dylan Roof being offered! Burger King after murdering people at a CHURCH SERVICE should NEVER be forgotten. Then the cops act like they're his parents and he stole the car for a joyride, sickening.


I’m surprised they didn’t take him home for dinner. They didn’t give a sh*t about the people he assassinated. Special privileges. There’s a place in hell for him.
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2elijah said:


poppys said:



Oh, I hope so everyday. Seeing people in physical and mental pain cause by systemic racism makes me ill. The oppressors still think they can "solve" this their way. It is literally the definition of insanity. I have argued about this with other white people. WHY do you want to be hated? WHY?



@ bolded part - unfortunately ‘their way’ has done nothing but cause destruction. Reminds me of the police officers that took that racist Dylan Roof for some lunch, knowing he had just assassinated, nine innocent Black Americans, who welcomed him into their church. I guess some folks are just so infected with racial prejudice they comfort racist murderers. Talk about insanity.. there it is.

i mean... look at all the racism and the coddling of racists on this site alone




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2elijah said:

cborgman said:

i mean... look at all the racism and the coddling of racists on this site alone

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Denial will do that.


nod the person who said in reality, mostly people are not racist and that the protests have died down. rolleyes Not sure where he is getting his info but it sure is fake.

People refuse to grasp the concept of white privilege and until they do racism will continue to permeate this society and the police unions who sweep it uder the rug.

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2elijah said:

cborgman said: Denial will do that.


nod the person who said in reality, mostly people are not racist and that the protests have died down. rolleyes Not sure where he is getting his info but it sure is fake.

People refuse to grasp the concept of white privilege and until they do racism will continue to permeate this society and the police unions who sweep it uder the rug.

2elijah, as usual, is right. its denial.

i think a lot of right wingers are stuck in denial or anger. a slight handful are in the bargaining phase.

some of the youngers ones have made it into acceptance. my quasi nephews ive known since they were 3 and 4 are now 23 and 22, and while right wingers, they are all about BLM and other minority rights. it gives me a lot of hope and makes me very proud of them.

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DiminutiveRocker said:


nod the person who said in reality, mostly people are not racist and that the protests have died down. rolleyes Not sure where he is getting his info but it sure is fake.

People refuse to grasp the concept of white privilege and until they do racism will continue to permeate this society and the police unions who sweep it uder the rug.

2elijah, as usual, is right. its denial.

i think a lot of right wingers are stuck in denial or anger. a slight handful are in the bargaining phase.

some of the youngers ones have made it into acceptance. my quasi nephews ive known since they were 3 and 4 are now 23 and 22, and while right wingers, they are all about BLM and other minority rights. it gives me a lot of hope and makes me very proud of them.

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smile I love that! And the protests are ripe with young, strong, loud voices - that gives me hope as well. My youngest niece is adopted, she is black. Her mom is white and her dad is Mexican-American. I remember when she was younger she did not understand what BLM meant, thought it was some kind of segregation movement. Despite having pretty liberal parents, she'd been home schooled and didn't really experience what it is like to be a black woman in society until she got a job. The older she got, the more she surrounded herself with black friends and boyfriends and now she is schooling her mother on her white privilege. It's amazing to watch them grow touched heart

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Revealed: officer who killed Rayshard Brooks accused of covering up 2015 shooting

Justin Miller in New York and Justin Glawe in Atlanta


Garrett Rolfe was fired by the Atlanta police department following what officials called the “unjustified” killing of Brooks on Friday. Rolfe shot Brooks twice in the back as Brooks ran away after a scuffle with officers when they attempted to arrest him. It was among a recent spate of killings of black men by white police officers, which have ignited a national uprising against police brutality and racism.


In August 2015, Rolfe and two other officers opened fire on Jackie Jermaine Harris, who they chased after he was caught driving a stolen truck, the Guardian can reveal after reviewing court documents on the incident.


However, the shooting was not reported by the police involved. Harris, like Brooks, is African American.

Harris rammed a police vehicle and officers shot at him several times inside the truck, striking
Harris once and collapsing his lung. Harris survived and later pleaded guilty to charges including theft, property damage, fleeing arrest and damaging a police vehicle.


Judge Doris L Downs, during a 2016 court hearing, called the case a “disaster” and said “it’s the wildest case I’ve seen in my 34 years here.”


Downs said she was so troubled by officers failing to report the shooting that she wanted the matter investigated.


“None of the police put in the report that they shot the man – none of them. And they sent him to Grady [Memorial Hospital] with collapsed lungs and everything, and the report doesn’t mention it,” Downs said. “I am ethically going to be required to turn all of them in.”


Downs even suggested state and federal authorities get involved.


She said: “What the police did was wrong, and they will have to answer for what they did.”


It is unclear if any action was taken. Downs could not be reached for comment.


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Reply #358 posted 06/17/20 12:22pm

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^^ Why does this not surprise me? I hope something comes of this prior act as well.

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Revealed: officer who killed Rayshard Brooks accused of covering up 2015 shooting







Justin Miller in New York and Justin Glawe in Atlanta









Garrett Rolfe was fired by the Atlanta police department following what officials called the “unjustified” killing of Brooks on Friday. Rolfe shot Brooks twice in the back as Brooks ran away after a scuffle with officers when they attempted to arrest him. It was among a recent spate of killings of black men by white police officers, which have ignited a national uprising against police brutality and racism.



In August 2015, Rolfe and two other officers opened fire on Jackie Jermaine Harris, who they chased after he was caught driving a stolen truck, the Guardian can reveal after reviewing court documents on the incident.



However, the shooting was not reported by the police involved. Harris, like Brooks, is African American.


Harris rammed a police vehicle and officers shot at him several times inside the truck, striking
Harris once and collapsing his lung. Harris survived and later pleaded guilty to charges including theft, property damage, fleeing arrest and damaging a police vehicle.



Judge Doris L Downs, during a 2016 court hearing, called the case a “disaster” and said “it’s the wildest case I’ve seen in my 34 years here.”



Downs said she was so troubled by officers failing to report the shooting that she wanted the matter investigated.



“None of the police put in the report that they shot the man – none of them. And they sent him to Grady [Memorial Hospital] with collapsed lungs and everything, and the report doesn’t mention it,” Downs said. “I am ethically going to be required to turn all of them in.”



Downs even suggested state and federal authorities get involved.



She said: “What the police did was wrong, and they will have to answer for what they did.”



It is unclear if any action was taken. Downs could not be reached for comment.


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