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Reply #30 posted 06/03/20 7:08am

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2elijah said:

On another note, Steve King lost the primary to another republican last night. JJ will be happy to hear that.

YES!

This pathetic jackass right-winger had been in office being thetypical right wing racist sleaze for over 20 years!

It was about time.

One sleazy racist is gone. A whole lot more to go.

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Reply #31 posted 06/03/20 7:26am

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2elijah said:

On another note, Steve King lost the primary to another republican last night. JJ will be happy to hear that.


woot!
A good sign. Let's hope people stop voting for the racist in the WH come November.

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Reply #32 posted 06/04/20 5:11am

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2elijah said:

Welcome back Tony, but until we get a 3rd party candidate who is very strong and can attract the interests of voters, then most will vote Repub or Democrat.

Sad but true.

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Reply #33 posted 06/04/20 5:17am

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v10letblues said:

Of course at this point everyone should rally around Biden, and in times like this we need a voice that can speak for us, but with Biden, I still worry about what comes out of his mouth.

And you wonder why I'm still hoping that Jesse Ventura will finally run? lol At least we both agree that Joe Biden is definitely a reckless speaker.

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Reply #34 posted 06/04/20 5:21am

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2elijah said:

On another note, Steve King lost the primary to another republican last night. JJ will be happy to hear that.


I knew Steve KIng was a no good SOB since 2005 when he was taking greasy about the late Michael Jackson. If Steve has no problem treating Michael like "guilty untill proven innocent", then it too obvious how Steve would think of most regular black folks.

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Reply #35 posted 06/04/20 6:24am

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2elijah said:

On another note, Steve King lost the primary to another republican last night. JJ will be happy to hear that.

That is thrilling!!! However we still need a Dem to win there or it's business as usual.

cnn.com The real reason Steve King lost

So, what changed? In early 2019, following his questioning of when "white nationalist" and "white supremacist" became "offensive," King was stripped of all committee assignments by Republican leaders who recognized that his presence had become a giant anchor around their necks, politically speaking...

..."Whatever you think of Steve King, it's clear he's no longer effective," said longtime Iowa social conservative leader Bob Vander Plaats in a Feenstra ad. "He can't deliver for President Trump and he can't advance our conservative values."


[Edited 6/4/20 6:30am]

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Reply #36 posted 06/04/20 6:28am

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TonyVanDam said:

v10letblues said:

Of course at this point everyone should rally around Biden, and in times like this we need a voice that can speak for us, but with Biden, I still worry about what comes out of his mouth.

And you wonder why I'm still hoping that Jesse Ventura will finally run? lol At least we both agree that Joe Biden is definitely a reckless speaker.


I'll take a reckless speaker who corrects himself immediately any day over the bloviating racist demagogue sitting the Oval office.

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Reply #37 posted 06/04/20 7:02am

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TonyVanDam said:

v10letblues said:

Of course at this point everyone should rally around Biden, and in times like this we need a voice that can speak for us, but with Biden, I still worry about what comes out of his mouth.

And you wonder why I'm still hoping that Jesse Ventura will finally run? lol At least we both agree that Joe Biden is definitely a reckless speaker.

so is ventura.


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Reply #38 posted 06/04/20 7:59am

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poppys said:

2elijah said:

On another note, Steve King lost the primary to another republican last night. JJ will be happy to hear that.

That is thrilling!!! However we still need a Dem to win there or it's business as usual.

cnn.com The real reason Steve King lost

So, what changed? In early 2019, following his questioning of when "white nationalist" and "white supremacist" became "offensive," King was stripped of all committee assignments by Republican leaders who recognized that his presence had become a giant anchor around their necks, politically speaking...

..."Whatever you think of Steve King, it's clear he's no longer effective," said longtime Iowa social conservative leader Bob Vander Plaats in a Feenstra ad. "He can't deliver for President Trump and he can't advance our conservative values."


[Edited 6/4/20 6:30am]


Here's the question, Bob Vander Plaats: Exactly what are your "conservative values" when Trump is allowed (by their silence) to carry on with his racist vitriol and demagoguery? Voter supression? Economic inequality? Women's rights stripped?

I am glad King was defeated but, F them.

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Reply #39 posted 06/04/20 8:19am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said:

That is thrilling!!! However we still need a Dem to win there or it's business as usual.

cnn.com The real reason Steve King lost

So, what changed? In early 2019, following his questioning of when "white nationalist" and "white supremacist" became "offensive," King was stripped of all committee assignments by Republican leaders who recognized that his presence had become a giant anchor around their necks, politically speaking...

..."Whatever you think of Steve King, it's clear he's no longer effective," said longtime Iowa social conservative leader Bob Vander Plaats in a Feenstra ad. "He can't deliver for President Trump and he can't advance our conservative values."




Here's the question, Bob Vander Plaats: Exactly what are your "conservative values" when Trump is allowed (by their silence) to carry on with his racist vitriol and demagoguery? Voter supression? Economic inequality? Women's rights stripped?

I am glad King was defeated but, F them.


nod That's how he got defeated, his racism had nothing to do with the primary, or the last 17 years he was voted in before. He was rendered inneffectual for the Repubs agenda, so he lost.

Anyway, baby steps. All support needs to get thrown behind the Dem. Still, it's Iowa.

[Edited 6/4/20 12:32pm]

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Reply #40 posted 06/04/20 12:25pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

TonyVanDam said:

And you wonder why I'm still hoping that Jesse Ventura will finally run? lol At least we both agree that Joe Biden is definitely a reckless speaker.


I'll take a reckless speaker who corrects himself immediately any day over the bloviating racist demagogue sitting the Oval office.

yeah it's a crazy false comparisons. It's the difference of perhaps a little too much salt or pepper for my tastes, to eating shit.

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Reply #41 posted 06/05/20 12:26pm

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cborgman said:

TonyVanDam said:

And you wonder why I'm still hoping that Jesse Ventura will finally run? lol At least we both agree that Joe Biden is definitely a reckless speaker.

so is ventura.


No, Jesse is NOT a reckless speaker. You take that back! chair

And seriously, Jesse has evolved and gotten more left-wing progressive than before.

[Edited 6/5/20 12:26pm]

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Reply #42 posted 06/05/20 2:54pm

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TonyVanDam said:

cborgman said:

so is ventura.


No, Jesse is NOT a reckless speaker. You take that back! chair

And seriously, Jesse has evolved and gotten more left-wing progressive than before.

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“I’m off the grid. I move about with my TV show so that the drones can’t find me and you won’t know exactly where I am"

“I’m solving problems. … I’m a job creator,” the former governor said later in the interview. “And I’m not only creating jobs, putting Mexicans to work, I’m stopping them from running across the border now and taking our jobs, because my whole staff said that if I wasn’t down here, and I didn’t have them, they’d be coming up to America, looking for jobs.”

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Reply #43 posted 06/05/20 3:08pm

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Was listening to Trump on the news a little while ago, and every word out of his mouth is always so used car salesman cringy.

There are certain people that ALWAYS fall for the used car salesman shtick. If you couple that with also being a racist, ...you have the Trump voter.

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Reply #44 posted 06/05/20 4:05pm

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v10letblues said:

Was listening to Trump on the news a little while ago, and every word out of his mouth is always so used car salesman cringy.

There are certain people that ALWAYS fall for the used car salesman shtick. If you couple that with also being a racist, ...you have the Trump voter.


"It's a great day for George Floyd"....Um... George is dead. Murdered.


ABC News poll of trump's response to George Floyd's death:

32% Approve

66% Disapprove


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Reply #45 posted 06/05/20 4:10pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

v10letblues said:

Was listening to Trump on the news a little while ago, and every word out of his mouth is always so used car salesman cringy.

There are certain people that ALWAYS fall for the used car salesman shtick. If you couple that with also being a racist, ...you have the Trump voter.


"It's a great day for George Floyd"....Um... George is dead. Murdered.


ABC News poll of trump's response to George Floyd's death:

32% Approve

66% Disapprove


god, those numbers should be much higher in the disapprove. 32% is still way too high. this country is seriously full of racist fucks.

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Reply #46 posted 06/05/20 4:16pm

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cborgman said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


"It's a great day for George Floyd"....Um... George is dead. Murdered.


ABC News poll of trump's response to George Floyd's death:

32% Approve

66% Disapprove


god, those numbers should be much higher in the disapprove. 32% is still way too high. this country is seriously full of racist fucks.

32% racist is about right. This is why BLM is a movement. It's always been much larger than we ever thought, and trump has brought them crawling up to the surface from under the baseboards, like roaches.


Before trump held the bible upsidedown and had the army clear peaceful protesters from the park with rubber bullets and smoke cannisters, he was down 15 pts among evangelicals, his number is now at 62%. I'll be curious to see if it falls further on the next poll.



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Reply #47 posted 06/05/20 4:25pm

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Jesus Christ. It's like some sort of bad dream. Donald Trump is your president and some people want Jesse The Body Ventura to run against him. Instead of electing celebrities you should give actual politicians another try. Sure, they're as crooked as a dog's hind legs but at least the bullshit they come out with is nowhere near as harmful as Trump's bullshit.

Besides, if a wrestler is going to run, it might as well be someone everyone can get behind. Someone like Stone Cold Steve Austin. He'd tear Trump apart in the debates.

In fact, he already did. Check out the below link and skip to 2.30 to see Donald Trump get verbally wrecked to his face.

https://m.youtube.com/wat...2FiWUsNrEQ
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Reply #48 posted 06/05/20 6:56pm

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We are going to need all the help we can get in November biggrin

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Reply #49 posted 06/06/20 7:55am

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IanRG said:

TonyVanDam said:

How do you know that for sure if you never gave an independent or a 3rd party candidate your vote? Then again, the corporate news media needs to let ALL candidates take part of all debates and stop using the so-called "must have 10% of general election votes OR else" [?!?] that President Clinton & Sen. Bob Dole convince the corporate news media to use since 1996.

Don't blame the independent voters for Bush & Trump. Blame the 2 major parties for trying so hard to screw every voters out of options.

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Welcome back

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I understand what you are saying and, generally I support anyone who equally rejects both the major parties voting for a 3rd party. And you have a long history of making this stand.

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It is, however a long play: One day there may be sufficient ground swell of people just about as equally disgusted with both parties or the structures that enforce political duopoly. It can work - the UK has had periods of three major parties where the Government can come from any of the three. In Australia in 1950 arond 96% of people voted for just the two majors - today nearly a third vote for someone else - With our structure those someone else's can get elected and hold the balance of power.

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But for the Presidency, in the US there is only one vote, no preferential system, no run off election and in 2020, a person who the world needs removed from office. To use an Australian term - you currently need anyone else, even a "drover's dog".

Ouch. lol Now that's one point that I never heard before. Thanks.

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Reply #50 posted 06/06/20 8:00am

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cborgman said:

TonyVanDam said:

No, Jesse is NOT a reckless speaker. You take that back! chair

And seriously, Jesse has evolved and gotten more left-wing progressive than before.

[Edited 6/5/20 12:26pm]

“I’m off the grid. I move about with my TV show so that the drones can’t find me and you won’t know exactly where I am"

“I’m solving problems. … I’m a job creator,” the former governor said later in the interview. “And I’m not only creating jobs, putting Mexicans to work, I’m stopping them from running across the border now and taking our jobs, because my whole staff said that if I wasn’t down here, and I didn’t have them, they’d be coming up to America, looking for jobs.”

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[Edited 6/5/20 14:57pm]

But Jesse likes open borders. He doesn't want USA or Mexico to be divided with a wall like how Berlin, Germany used to be during the Cold War.

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Reply #51 posted 06/06/20 8:04am

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TonyVanDam said:

cborgman said:

“I’m off the grid. I move about with my TV show so that the drones can’t find me and you won’t know exactly where I am"

“I’m solving problems. … I’m a job creator,” the former governor said later in the interview. “And I’m not only creating jobs, putting Mexicans to work, I’m stopping them from running across the border now and taking our jobs, because my whole staff said that if I wasn’t down here, and I didn’t have them, they’d be coming up to America, looking for jobs.”

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[Edited 6/5/20 14:57pm]

But Jesse likes open borders. He doesn't want USA or Mexico to be divided with a wall like how Berlin, Germany used to be during the Cold War.

mmmkay, still a reckless speaker though.

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Reply #52 posted 06/06/20 8:49am

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TonyVanDam said:

cborgman said:

“I’m off the grid. I move about with my TV show so that the drones can’t find me and you won’t know exactly where I am"

“I’m solving problems. … I’m a job creator,” the former governor said later in the interview. “And I’m not only creating jobs, putting Mexicans to work, I’m stopping them from running across the border now and taking our jobs, because my whole staff said that if I wasn’t down here, and I didn’t have them, they’d be coming up to America, looking for jobs.”

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[Edited 6/5/20 14:57pm]

But Jesse likes open borders. He doesn't want USA or Mexico to be divided with a wall like how Berlin, Germany used to be during the Cold War.

anyone that compares the berlin wall to a border wall has no knowledge of that the berlin wall was. It is more like a prison wall to keep people IN... a border wall is no different that the walls and doors that make up your home... you want no walls? remove all locks from all your doors... if you are not willing to let me move in and help myself to anything you have then you must be for a secure and controlled border.

[Edited 6/6/20 8:52am]

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Reply #53 posted 06/06/20 9:05am

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The official purpose of this Berlin Wall was to keep Western “fascists” from entering East Germany and undermining the socialist state, but it primarily served the objective of stemming mass defections from East to West.

https://www.history.com/t...to%20West.

Hmm, kind of reminds me of a border wall on the southern border of the United States, to keep "Mexicans" from entering the United States and "undermining our way of life".

Trump: "It was hard to get it aroused and it is hard to get it aroused but we got it aroused."
[narrator voice] He's talking about the "American way."
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Reply #54 posted 06/06/20 10:22am

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luv4u said:

Kamala Harris, Condeliza(sp) Rice

I like the idea of Kamala Harris, also.

I think you meant to refer to Susan Rice:

Susan Elizabeth Rice is an American former public official who served as the 24th U.S. National Security Advisor to President Barack Obama from 2013 to 2017 and as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations from 2009 to 2013. The U.S. Senate confirmed her as Ambassador by unanimous consent on January 22, 2009. [Wikipedia]

Am I right?

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Reply #55 posted 06/06/20 11:16am

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benni said:

The official purpose of this Berlin Wall was to keep Western “fascists” from entering East Germany and undermining the socialist state, but it primarily served the objective of stemming mass defections from East to West.

https://www.history.com/t...to%20West.

Hmm, kind of reminds me of a border wall on the southern border of the United States, to keep "Mexicans" from entering the United States and "undermining our way of life".


West Berlin was a western island inside a communist block and West Berlin was surrounded by walls built by that communist regime. And it was supposed to stop refugees from that communist regime from fleeing to the west. As soon as the Berlin wall fell, people from East Germany were moving westwards in their Trabbis. Nobody thought they were going to undermine our way of life, on the contrary, everybody was happy that the communist block and the Berlin Wall were falling. In short, it's a totally different situation than what's going on in America today, so your comparison makes no sense.
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Reply #56 posted 06/06/20 11:26am

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v10letblues said:

Was listening to Trump on the news a little while ago, and every word out of his mouth is always so used car salesman cringy.

There are certain people that ALWAYS fall for the used car salesman shtick. If you couple that with also being a racist, ...you have the Trump voter.

It is so fucking depressing that there are so many uneducated, racist assholes in this country.

"hey if you found out someone gave you a fake $20 would you be mad?"
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Reply #57 posted 06/06/20 11:54am

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13cjk13 said:

v10letblues said:

Was listening to Trump on the news a little while ago, and every word out of his mouth is always so used car salesman cringy.

There are certain people that ALWAYS fall for the used car salesman shtick. If you couple that with also being a racist, ...you have the Trump voter.


It is so fucking depressing that there are so many uneducated, racist assholes in this country.


It isn't the uneducated as much as the racist and sexist. We have to stop thinking racists and sexists are primarily stupid people. People like Tucker Carlson are highly educated millionaires with good jobs and media mouthpieces.

brookings.edu

...Trump did not do especially well with non-college-educated whites, compared to other Republicans. He did especially well with white people who express sexist views about women and who deny racism exists.

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Reply #58 posted 06/06/20 12:02pm

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benni said:

The official purpose of this Berlin Wall was to keep Western “fascists” from entering East Germany and undermining the socialist state, but it primarily served the objective of stemming mass defections from East to West.

https://www.history.com/t...to%20West.

Hmm, kind of reminds me of a border wall on the southern border of the United States, to keep "Mexicans" from entering the United States and "undermining our way of life".

LOL excpt they kept people IN... like a prison.

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Reply #59 posted 06/06/20 12:22pm

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Protests crowd in DC is growing.
Always smile in the face of adversity. smile
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