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Reply #390 posted 05/11/20 10:49pm

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Yikes! Imagine the nightmarish mess Biden will inherit if he does win... eek


Kind of like what Obama inherited... neutral

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Reply #391 posted 05/11/20 11:48pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

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Only reminds me of the people in the church through which I was abused. I was abused through the Anglican Church. Those obsessed with the defending this church would attack the Catholic Church for the abuse they allowed. In the meantime they attacked the people who tried to stop the abuse within. They stoned the houses of the Bishop and the police officer investigating the abuses. At the Royal Commission into the Institutional Responce to Childhood Sexual Abuse the Commissioner advised the Bishop (a person also sexually abused through the Anglican Church) to have different council to the local Church because they were people like Only - hell bent on defending their side and not on preventing abuse.

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P.S. The Bishop had to move on after the Royal Commission.

I am not sure what this word salad is suposed to mean but I have never defended any child abuse.

Nevermind.

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Reply #392 posted 05/15/20 4:54am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



benni said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:




i have seen videos of him touching little girls in a sexual manner... that is all i need to know.

Edit: but it is clear many on the left defend, deny, and deflect "trump did it tooooo!" If you vote for joe you are voting for a man with a history of fondling children.


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You HAVE NEVER seen videos of him touching little girls in a sexual manner. EVER. I have seen the videos of him being affectionate, and that is NOT a sexual touch. If you want to know what a sexual manner is with a child, I can tell you. I can give you a graphic description of what it is to be a little girl and to be touched in a sexual manner. Kissing them on the cheek, touching their hair, etc., is NOT touching them in a sexual manner. How dare you, Only. How dare you.




I do not agree. It is okay that we do not. I firmly believe that he has touched little girls in a sexual manner... are there videos of him touching, sniffing, and nuzzling the little boys too? or is it just little girls?


Provide the link. If you firmly believe it, then provide the link, because you are making some strong accusations about Biden, so provide the link to back up those accusations.If you have no evidence of it, then you’re lying either because you’re angry of the actual, sexual accusations that have been made
against trump or you’re saying it for trolling purposes.
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Reply #393 posted 05/21/20 10:09pm

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As Tara Reade’s Expert Witness Credentials Are Questioned, So Are Verdicts


Defense lawyers in California are reviewing criminal cases in which Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, served as an expert witness on domestic violence, concerned that she misrepresented her educational credentials in court.

Then known as Alexandra McCabe, Ms. Reade testified as a government witness in Monterey County courts for nearly a decade, describing herself as an expert in the dynamics of domestic violence who had counseled hundreds of victims.

But lawyers who had faced off against her in court began raising questions about the legitimacy of her testimony, and the verdicts that followed, after news reports this week that Antioch University had disputed her claim of receiving a bachelor’s degree from its Seattle campus.

The public defender’s office in Monterey County has begun scrutinizing cases involving Ms. Reade and compiling a list of clients who may have been affected by her testimony, according to Jeremy Dzubay, an assistant public defender in the office.

Roland Soltesz, a criminal defense lawyer, says he believes Ms. Reade’s testimony made a significant difference in the outcome of the 2018 trial of his client Victoria Ramirez. Both Ms. Ramirez and her co-defendant, Jennifer Vasquez, received life sentences for attempted murder, arson and armed robbery.

“People have been convicted based upon this, and that’s wrong,” said Mr. Soltesz, adding that he “could care less about the politics of this whole thing.”

Ms. Reade has accused Mr. Biden of assaulting her in the Senate complex in 1993, placing his hand under her dress and penetrating her with his fingers. Mr. Biden flatly denies her accusation.

Questions about Ms. Reade’s education background were first reported by CNN.
Ms. Reade told The New York Times that she had obtained her degree through a “protected program” for victims of spousal abuse, which, court records show, she suffered at the hands of her ex-husband in the mid-1990s. That history, she said, caused her to change her name, leading to confusion about her status at the school. She later received a law degree from Seattle University.

But an Antioch spokeswoman, Karen Hamilton, told The Times that while Ms. Reade had attended classes, she was certain Ms. Reade had not received a degree...


Ms. Reade maintains that she has an undergraduate degree, saying the school has no record of her graduating because of special arrangements put in place to protect her from her ex-husband. She sent The Times a screenshot of a transcript showing her with 35 course credits, her department as “BA Completion” and nothing listed under “date conferred” or “degree conferred.” According to the photo, she entered school on Oct. 2, 2000.

Credits from her earlier studies at Pasadena City College were linked to her old social security number and name — the same one she now uses — making her worried that her ex-husband could find her and her daughter, she says. To protect her identity as a survivor of domestic abuse, Ms. Reade says she received her degree through the private assistance of the school’s then-president, Tullisse Murdock. She says she never received a diploma or requested one since she was “fast-tracked” to law school.

“The president took it from the registrar and did it herself for complete confidentiality,” she said in an interview.

But Ms. Hamilton, the Antioch spokeswoman, told The Times that it had spoken with Ms. Murdock, and that there was no such special arrangement with Ms. Reade. It takes 180 credits to graduate, and students earn up to a maximum of 45 for life experience or prior studies, according to the school’s website.


https://www.nytimes.com/2...e=Homepage


I don't know what to say about this. The victims of the crimes that she testified in will have to go through all of it all over again, if they decide to reopen those cases because Reade lied about her degree and testified as a government witness. And if she did not receive her undergrad degree, I'm sure her law degree will be pulled too, because they don't bestow a law degree on someone without that undergrad degree.






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Reply #394 posted 05/22/20 7:08am

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As Tara Reade’s Expert Witness Credentials Are Questioned, So Are Verdicts


Defense lawyers in California are reviewing criminal cases in which Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, served as an expert witness on domestic violence, concerned that she misrepresented her educational credentials in court.

Then known as Alexandra McCabe, Ms. Reade testified as a government witness in Monterey County courts for nearly a decade, describing herself as an expert in the dynamics of domestic violence who had counseled hundreds of victims.

But lawyers who had faced off against her in court began raising questions about the legitimacy of her testimony, and the verdicts that followed, after news reports this week that Antioch University had disputed her claim of receiving a bachelor’s degree from its Seattle campus.

The public defender’s office in Monterey County has begun scrutinizing cases involving Ms. Reade and compiling a list of clients who may have been affected by her testimony, according to Jeremy Dzubay, an assistant public defender in the office.

Roland Soltesz, a criminal defense lawyer, says he believes Ms. Reade’s testimony made a significant difference in the outcome of the 2018 trial of his client Victoria Ramirez. Both Ms. Ramirez and her co-defendant, Jennifer Vasquez, received life sentences for attempted murder, arson and armed robbery.

“People have been convicted based upon this, and that’s wrong,” said Mr. Soltesz, adding that he “could care less about the politics of this whole thing.”

Ms. Reade has accused Mr. Biden of assaulting her in the Senate complex in 1993, placing his hand under her dress and penetrating her with his fingers. Mr. Biden flatly denies her accusation.

Questions about Ms. Reade’s education background were first reported by CNN.
Ms. Reade told The New York Times that she had obtained her degree through a “protected program” for victims of spousal abuse, which, court records show, she suffered at the hands of her ex-husband in the mid-1990s. That history, she said, caused her to change her name, leading to confusion about her status at the school. She later received a law degree from Seattle University.

But an Antioch spokeswoman, Karen Hamilton, told The Times that while Ms. Reade had attended classes, she was certain Ms. Reade had not received a degree...


Ms. Reade maintains that she has an undergraduate degree, saying the school has no record of her graduating because of special arrangements put in place to protect her from her ex-husband. She sent The Times a screenshot of a transcript showing her with 35 course credits, her department as “BA Completion” and nothing listed under “date conferred” or “degree conferred.” According to the photo, she entered school on Oct. 2, 2000.

Credits from her earlier studies at Pasadena City College were linked to her old social security number and name — the same one she now uses — making her worried that her ex-husband could find her and her daughter, she says. To protect her identity as a survivor of domestic abuse, Ms. Reade says she received her degree through the private assistance of the school’s then-president, Tullisse Murdock. She says she never received a diploma or requested one since she was “fast-tracked” to law school.

“The president took it from the registrar and did it herself for complete confidentiality,” she said in an interview.

But Ms. Hamilton, the Antioch spokeswoman, told The Times that it had spoken with Ms. Murdock, and that there was no such special arrangement with Ms. Reade. It takes 180 credits to graduate, and students earn up to a maximum of 45 for life experience or prior studies, according to the school’s website.


https://www.nytimes.com/2...e=Homepage


I don't know what to say about this. The victims of the crimes that she testified in will have to go through all of it all over again, if they decide to reopen those cases because Reade lied about her degree and testified as a government witness. And if she did not receive her undergrad degree, I'm sure her law degree will be pulled too, because they don't bestow a law degree on someone without that undergrad degree.


Oh wow, those are some stories, benni. Sounding more and more like an episode of Law & Order SVU. She never realized they were going to check her out when she made these serious allegations? If the above is true...

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Reply #395 posted 05/22/20 11:20am

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BREAKING NEWS

Tara Reade Is Dropped as Client by a Leading #MeToo Lawyer

Tara Reade has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault. The departure of her lawyer, who says he believes her allegation, comes as questions are being raised about her credibility as an expert witness.
Tara Reade has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault. The departure of her lawyer, who says he believes her allegation, comes as questions are being raised about her credibility as an expert witness.Credit...Max Whittaker for The New York Times
  • Published May 21, 2020Updated May 22, 2020, 2:01 p.m. ET

The lawyer for Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, said Friday that he was no longer representing her, just two weeks after taking her on as a client.

The lawyer, Douglas H. Wigdor, has been a leading plaintiff’s attorney of the #MeToo era. His firm is best known for bringing discrimination cases against Fox News — and its former star host Bill O’Reilly — and Harvey Weinstein, and his presence at Ms. Reade’s side gave her claims added legal heft.

His announced departure came a day after defense lawyers in California said they were reviewing criminal cases in which Ms. Reade served as an expert witness on domestic violence, concerned that she had misrepresented her educational credentials in court.

While not providing a reason for leaving, Mr. Wigdor said his decision was “by no means a reflection on whether then-Senator Biden sexually assaulted Ms. Reade,” adding that he was among the 55 percent of Americans who believe her, according to a Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll.

Mr. Wigdor, a conservative Republican whose support for President Trump in 2016 did not preclude him from suing prominent Trump allies, had a parting shot for the news media, which he accused of applying a “double standard” to its coverage of accusations against the presumed Democratic nominee.

“Much of what has been written about Ms. Reade is not probative of whether then-Senator Biden sexually assaulted her, but rather is intended to victim-shame and attack her credibility on unrelated and irrelevant matters,” he said. “We have and will continue to represent survivors regardless of their alleged predator’s status or politics.”

Ms. Reade declined to comment on her lawyer’s departure.

He is leaving as her credibility is coming under harsh scrutiny. On Thursday in California, lawyers who had faced off against her in court began raising questions about the legitimacy of her testimony, and the verdicts that followed, after news reports that Antioch University had disputed her claim of receiving a bachelor’s degree from its Seattle campus.

Then known as Alexandra McCabe, Ms. Reade testified as a government witness in Monterey County courts for nearly a decade, describing herself as an expert in the dynamics of domestic violence who had counseled hundreds of victims.

The public defender’s office in Monterey County has begun scrutinizing cases involving Ms. Reade and compiling a list of clients who may have been affected by her testimony, according to Jeremy Dzubay, an assistant public defender in the office.

Roland Soltesz, a criminal defense lawyer, says he believes Ms. Reade’s testimony made a significant difference in the outcome of the 2018 trial of his client Victoria Ramirez. Both Ms. Ramirez and her co-defendant, Jennifer Vasquez, received life sentences for attempted murder, arson and armed robbery.

“People have been convicted based upon this, and that’s wrong,” said Mr. Soltesz, adding that he “could care less about the politics of this whole thing.”

ImageMr. Biden, pictured in 1994 discussing the Violence Against Women Act. He has flatly denied the sexual assault allegation.
Mr. Biden, pictured in 1994 discussing the Violence Against Women Act. He has flatly denied the sexual assault allegation.Credit...John Duricka/Associated Press

Ms. Reade has accused Mr. Biden of assaulting her in the Senate complex in 1993, placing his hand under her dress and penetrating her with his fingers. Mr. Biden flatly denies her accusation.

Questions about Ms. Reade’s education background were first reported by CNN.

Ms. Reade told The New York Times that she had obtained her degree through a “protected program” for victims of spousal abuse, which, court records show, she suffered at the hands of her ex-husband in the mid-1990s. That history, she said, caused her to change her name, leading to confusion about her status at the school. She later received a law degree from Seattle University.

But an Antioch spokeswoman, Karen Hamilton, told The Times that while Ms. Reade had attended classes, she was certain Ms. Reade had not received a degree.

In her testimony in the 2018 trial, Ms. Reade was questioned about her degree by Mr. Soltesz. She testified that she received a liberal arts degree, as was stated on her résumé provided by the district attorney’s office. “The focus was political science,” she said, according to a trial transcript.

Ms. Reade also told the court that she was currently a substitute teacher but had worked in domestic violence prevention for more than two decades and testified in more than 20 cases. Her career began, she said, in Mr. Biden’s office.

“I was a legislative assistant,” she said, according to the testimony. “He worked on the Violence Against Women Act, the federal act.”

Staff lists published in 1993 show Ms. Reade listed as a staff assistant, a different position from the legislative assistant job she cited in her testimony. Both titles are common in congressional offices, with legislative assistant indicating a slightly more senior post that involves working on policy. In multiple interviews, Ms. Reade described her duties as managing the interns, never mentioning any direct work on the Violence Against Women Act.

In an interview, Mr. Soltesz described Ms. Reade as “well spoken” and “a good witness on the stand,” and said he was impressed by her experience with Mr. Biden.

But both Mr. Soltesz and Scott Erdbacher, the lawyer for Ms. Vasquez, raised objections to Ms. Reade’s testimony, according to the transcript, saying they were skeptical that her work experience qualified her as an expert. The judge overruled them.

Now, Mr. Soltesz says he is exploring whether he can reopen his case. On Wednesday evening, he emailed a network of more than 100 public defenders, alerting them to questions about Ms. Reade’s background and credibility.

Monique S. Hill, a lawyer in another domestic violence case in which Ms. Reade served as an expert witness, said she also saw grounds to challenge the conviction.

“Had I had the information that I have now, this case, in my mind, would have gone differently,” said Ms. Hill, who served as a public defender.

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Ms. Reade earned credits from Pasadena City College before studying at Antioch University. Antioch disputes Ms. Reade’s account that she received a degree from the university.Credit...Emily Berl for The New York Times

The Monterey County chief assistant district attorney, Berkley Brannon, said that if Ms. Reade had misrepresented her academic credentials, the office would alert all defense lawyers involved in cases that featured her as an expert.

“That would absolutely be of concern to us, and it’s something that the defense attorneys would need to know about,” he said. “We don’t want people that we call lying about anything.”

He said the office would not make any move to contact defense lawyers until it was satisfied that she indeed had not obtained her bachelor’s degree. And, speaking hypothetically, he said that the extent to which a false academic claim would affect the cases she participated in would depend on how material her testimony was to the outcome.

The Sixth District Appellate Program, a state-funded public interest law firm that represents low-income clients in the region, is also reviewing all the cases involving Ms. Reade.

Ms. Reade maintains that she has an undergraduate degree, saying the school has no record of her graduating because of special arrangements put in place to protect her from her ex-husband. She sent The Times a screenshot of a transcript showing her with 35 course credits, her department as “BA Completion” and nothing listed under “date conferred” or “degree conferred.” According to the photo, she entered school on Oct. 2, 2000.

Credits from her earlier studies at Pasadena City College were linked to her old social security number and name — the same one she now uses — making her worried that her ex-husband could find her and her daughter, she says. To protect her identity as a survivor of domestic abuse, Ms. Reade says she received her degree through the private assistance of the school’s then-president, Tullisse Murdock. She says she never received a diploma or requested one since she was “fast-tracked” to law school.

“The president took it from the registrar and did it herself for complete confidentiality,” she said in an interview.

But Ms. Hamilton, the Antioch spokeswoman, told The Times that it had spoken with Ms. Murdock, and that there was no such special arrangement with Ms. Reade. It takes 180 credits to graduate, and students earn up to a maximum of 45 for life experience or prior studies, according to the school’s website.

Seattle University School of Law confirmed that Ms. Reade graduated with a J.D. degree in 2004. The school only considers accepting students with bachelor’s degrees, according to its website. But it would not share what degree Ms. Reade presented with her initial application, citing federal privacy standards.

Lying in court is generally considered to be a crime, though one that can be hard to prosecute. To be considered perjury, usually the false statement has to be a knowing lie.

Even if Ms. Reade was not found to have perjured herself, exaggerating qualifications as an expert witness could be grounds for reversal of a verdict.

“An expert can only testify in certain circumstances,” said Mark J. Reichel, a criminal defense lawyer based in Sacramento who formerly worked as a federal public defender. “One of them is that they have expertise above the regular person. The jury is entitled to hear your qualifications.”

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Reply #396 posted 05/22/20 1:53pm

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Does anyone else find it a little strange that this so-called "Me Too" lawyer is also a Trump supporter? A man who has been accused of sexual assault and harassment by about 20 women ...

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Reply #397 posted 05/22/20 4:20pm

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BREAKING NEWS

Tara Reade has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault. The departure of her lawyer, who says he believes her allegation, comes as questions are being raised about her credibility as an expert witness.

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Reply #398 posted 05/22/20 4:41pm

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Does anyone else find it a little strange that this so-called "Me Too" lawyer is also a Trump supporter? A man who has been accused of sexual assault and harassment by about 20 women ...

The entire situation is strange, and not just a little. biggrin

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Reply #399 posted 05/22/20 4:44pm

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13cjk13 said:

BREAKING NEWS

Tara Reade has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault. The departure of her lawyer, who says he believes her allegation, comes as questions are being raised about her credibility as an expert witness.

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We're now at the point where trump would just say, "look at her, she's not my type" and everyone would move on......

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Reply #400 posted 05/22/20 4:57pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

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We're now at the point where trump would just say, "look at her, she's not my type" and everyone would move on......

She sure as hell ain't my type... razz lol

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Reply #401 posted 05/22/20 5:02pm

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Does anyone else find it a little strange that this so-called "Me Too" lawyer is also a Trump supporter? A man who has been accused of sexual assault and harassment by about 20 women ...

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Yes, it is strange.

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However, he is correct when he says “Much of what has been written about Ms. Reade is not probative of whether then-Senator Biden sexually assaulted her, but rather is intended to victim-shame and attack her credibility on unrelated and irrelevant matters.”

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What is stranger is what was the reason for him dropping her. Obviously there are restrictions on what is allowed and appropriate to be disclosed when legal representation changes, but it looks bad for Reade right when her integrity is being investigated, not just written about by the media.

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Reply #402 posted 05/23/20 8:48am

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Does anyone else find it a little strange that this so-called "Me Too" lawyer is also a Trump supporter? A man who has been accused of sexual assault and harassment by about 20 women ...


Good point - hmm Fox fighting Republican litigator? He looks like Stephan Miller's older brother, yech.

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