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Reply #210 posted 05/06/20 8:33am

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I don't think anyone can get through to Trump voters by now, all we can hope to get is all those that regret that they votes for him.

Sane people all know that Trump needs to go,but you can't fight one toxic with another and hope it will all work out. Let's remember that Warren has never even stated how she would pay for her overhaul, and how tearing down Obamacare for something completely new from scratch could even pass or be enacted in a voters lifetime.

It's not about Trump VS democrats, it's toxic vs toxic. Biden needs someone like Amy Klobuchar who hasn't drank the kool aid and can united the country not contine the circus that will sure to open up again if Warrren gets the nomination.


Bullshit. You are the one in this discussion who introduced the phrase "toxic progressives" - and now you are doubling down on it like it's a thing. It isn't - just another extension of the false equivalency tactic that is all the rage now. EVERYthing is not the same - for instance - Pence is NOT acting Presidential no matter how many times you post it.

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Reply #211 posted 05/06/20 8:40am

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Speaking of toxic, someone is out of xanax.

again.

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Reply #212 posted 05/06/20 9:29am

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v10letblues said:

I don't think anyone can get through to Trump voters by now, all we can hope to get is all those that regret that they votes for him.

Sane people all know that Trump needs to go,but you can't fight one toxic with another and hope it will all work out. Let's remember that Warren has never even stated how she would pay for her overhaul, and how tearing down Obamacare for something completely new from scratch could even pass or be enacted in a voters lifetime.

It's not about Trump VS democrats, it's toxic vs toxic. Biden needs someone like Amy Klobuchar who hasn't drank the kool aid and can united the country not contine the circus that will sure to open up again if Warrren gets the nomination.

2elijah said:

v10letblues said:


Except she did: https://www.npr.org/2019/...re-for-all


https://www.vox.com/polic...lic-option

And I'm not overly impressed with Klobuchar.

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Reply #213 posted 05/06/20 9:31am

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I stand corrected thank you Benni

benni said:

v10letblues said:

I don't think anyone can get through to Trump voters by now, all we can hope to get is all those that regret that they votes for him.

Sane people all know that Trump needs to go,but you can't fight one toxic with another and hope it will all work out. Let's remember that Warren has never even stated how she would pay for her overhaul, and how tearing down Obamacare for something completely new from scratch could even pass or be enacted in a voters lifetime.

It's not about Trump VS democrats, it's toxic vs toxic. Biden needs someone like Amy Klobuchar who hasn't drank the kool aid and can united the country not contine the circus that will sure to open up again if Warrren gets the nomination.


Except she did: https://www.npr.org/2019/...re-for-all


https://www.vox.com/polic...lic-option

And I'm not overly impressed with Klobuchar.

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Reply #214 posted 05/06/20 9:32am

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And I don't think Klobuchar could get the black vote:


In January 2020, an Associated Press investigation revealed new evidence and various inconsistencies in Klobuchar's handling of the case of Myon Burrell, an African-American teenager who was sentenced to life in prison over the murder of 11-year-old Tyesha Edwards in 2002. Upon this revelation, civil and racial rights groups including the Minneapolis NAACP, Black Lives Matter Twin Cities and other groups and affiliated and unaffiliated activists have called on Klobuchar to suspend her presidential campaign. Klobuchar faced sustained scrutiny about this issue, facing these lingering questions at the subsequent New Hampshire and Nevada debates.

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Reply #215 posted 05/06/20 9:46am

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Speaking of toxic, someone is out of xanax.


again.


Is that because you can’t take others thinking differently from you? Just try not to lump all Dems in the same boat. If anyone whether Democrat or Republican isn’t aware of trump’s tactics, then they’re living in a bubble. Come on now, do you really think many repubs aren’t aware of trump’s toxicity, but support him for the benefit of the repub party anyway, regardless of his lies, crazy suggestions, racist comments, etc., etc.?
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Reply #216 posted 05/06/20 9:48am

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And I don't think Klobuchar could get the black vote:


In January 2020, an Associated Press investigation revealed new evidence and various inconsistencies in Klobuchar's handling of the case of Myon Burrell, an African-American teenager who was sentenced to life in prison over the murder of 11-year-old Tyesha Edwards in 2002. Upon this revelation, civil and racial rights groups including the Minneapolis NAACP, Black Lives Matter Twin Cities and other groups and affiliated and unaffiliated activists have called on Klobuchar to suspend her presidential campaign. Klobuchar faced sustained scrutiny about this issue, facing these lingering questions at the subsequent New Hampshire and Nevada debates.

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I like Klobuchar, but I agree - the running mate needs to be a no bullshit, very dynamic woman.

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Reply #217 posted 05/06/20 9:48am

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2elijah said:

v10letblues said:

Speaking of toxic, someone is out of xanax.

again.

Is that because you can’t take others thinking differently from you? Just try not to lump all Dems in the same boat. If anyone whether Democrat or Republican isn’t aware of trump’s tactics, then they’re living in a bubble. Come on now, do you really think many repubs aren’t aware of trump’s toxicity, but support him for the benefit of the repub party anyway, regardless of his lies, crazy suggestions, racist comments, etc., etc.?

No its becasue she cant make a comment without being toxic.

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Reply #218 posted 05/06/20 9:51am

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Iv'e come back around to my own states Harris as the VP choice. I lost interest in her after her performance during the debates, but if it's between her and Warren, i think Harris is the better choice,. Warren would kick up a right wing circus that would be too distracting and in my opinion a losing combination.

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Reply #219 posted 05/06/20 9:55am

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Speaking of toxic, someone is out of xanax.

again.


I'm sorry, this is a political discussion forum, not your living room. People can actually read what you write and comment on it, regardless of how random it seems to be.

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Reply #220 posted 05/06/20 9:55am

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v10letblues said:

I don't think anyone can get through to Trump voters by now, all we can hope to get is all those that regret that they votes for him.


Sane people all know that Trump needs to go,but you can't fight one toxic with another and hope it will all work out. Let's remember that Warren has never even stated how she would pay for her overhaul, and how tearing down Obamacare for something completely new from scratch could even pass or be enacted in a voters lifetime.


It's not about Trump VS democrats, it's toxic vs toxic. Biden needs someone like Amy Klobuchar who hasn't drank the kool aid and can united the country not contine the circus that will sure to open up again if Warrren gets the nomination.



2elijah said:


v10letblues said:
It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber. [Edited 5/5/20 12:59pm]

You basically summed up the democrats as one and the same, by suggesting democrats can’t let themselves believe there are others that don’t think differently. Why would you believe they don’t think others think differently? Of course they see it. Who could miss that many of trumps’ supporters don’t see trump as toxic? That’s the problem right there. Lets go back during that last election year. You have to remember all the shit tat was going on during that election period. Many of trump’s voters didn’t know much about him, especially the ones who were mesmerized by his outlandish, reality tv show personalit, and thought his rudeness was hilarious. Then there’s the cult (white nationalists/ nazi types/and many in rural communities)where trump spoke their language of racial division, hatred and ignorance). He already knew he had those toes in his pocket. The there were some in the middle, who were surprised and brainwashed by his concerns and interests for the white community only, and his boldness of saying in public, what many of them say in the dark and at their dinner tables. That’s what won him those types of voters. What caused Hillary to lose votes at the last minute, was trump’s constant talk of Hillary’s emails, which had many Bernie supporters in limbo, and were already angry that Bernie lost to Hillary. Then not to mention Bernie’s, public angst towards the Democratic Party after losing, to Hillary and suggesting in public, that some Democrat officials intentionally didn’t want him to be the winner. That made many Beenie supporters angry, so they either voted for trump or didn’t vote at all. Then the bombshell from Comey just a few days before the election about Hillary’s emails, really left a lot of Democratic voters unsure about Hillary. Yes, Trump played the game well against her, because of course, he’s always been good at conning people. but if the Comey thing didn’t happen, I believe Hillary would have won. Many of us have always said trump knows the supporters he wants to attract, and what to say to draw them in, no matter how low he has to go to do it, and who will fall for anything he says. It’s not difficult to figure that out. [Edited 5/6/20 5:07am]


I don’t have a particular favorite as to who should be considered Biden’s VP yet. Plus I don’t know much about Klobuchar, to say she can unite the country, when most haven’t heard of her before the presidential campaign. It’s not like her name was as familiar as Warren, and I’m not saying Warren should be the VP pick either. I’m still undecided about the VP pick for now.

As far as a circus atmosphere, well trump does that all by himself,
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Reply #221 posted 05/06/20 10:04am

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Iv'e come back around to my own states Harris as the VP choice. I lost interest in her after her performance during the debates, but if it's between her and Warren, i think Harris is the better choice,. Warren would kick up a right wing circus that would be too distracting and in my opinion a losing combination.


I doubt Harris could carry the Black vote though. I think she had some controversy about a case in the past that I read about some time ago. I have to look for it again. May need some new names thrown in. I have nothing bad to say about Warren, but I don’t think she really wanted to support Biden. Seems more like she was hoping to back Bernie, and she took a while to give her support to Biden. So I’m just not sure who would be a good Female VP pick right now. Maybe some other choices need to be considered.
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Reply #222 posted 05/06/20 10:11am

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I don’t have a particular favorite as to who should be considered Biden’s VP yet. Plus I don’t know much about Klobuchar, to say she can unite the country, when most haven’t heard of her before the presidential campaign. It’s not like her name was as familiar as Warren, and I’m not saying Warren should be the VP pick either. I’m still undecided about the VP pick for now. As far as a circus atmosphere, well trump does that all by himself.

I'm the same 2e, don't have a particular favorite either. In a way, I found it strange that Biden did announce ahead of time that it's going to be a woman, I mean does HE know who yet? Anyway, he's gotta do better on the VP level than Kaine, lol - watching paint dry.

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Reply #223 posted 05/06/20 10:15am

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2elijah said:

v10letblues said:

Iv'e come back around to my own states Harris as the VP choice. I lost interest in her after her performance during the debates, but if it's between her and Warren, i think Harris is the better choice,. Warren would kick up a right wing circus that would be too distracting and in my opinion a losing combination.

I doubt Harris could carry the Black vote though. I think she had some controversy about a case in the past that I read about some time ago. I have to look for it again. May need some new names thrown in. I have nothing bad to say about Warren, but I don’t think she really wanted to support Biden. Seems more like she was hoping to back Bernie, and she took a while to give her support to Biden. So I’m just not sure who would be a good Female VP pick right now. Maybe some other choices need to be considered.


Yeah, agree - Harris is a no for me too. Is Stacy Abrams still in the pool of candidates?

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Reply #224 posted 05/06/20 10:31am

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2elijah said:

I doubt Harris could carry the Black vote though. I think she had some controversy about a case in the past that I read about some time ago. I have to look for it again. May need some new names thrown in. I have nothing bad to say about Warren, but I don’t think she really wanted to support Biden. Seems more like she was hoping to back Bernie, and she took a while to give her support to Biden. So I’m just not sure who would be a good Female VP pick right now. Maybe some other choices need to be considered.


Yeah, agree - Harris is a no for me too. Is Stacy Abrams still in the pool of candidates?

It was something about law enforcement & incarceration, I think. Bet 2freaky could tell us. Miss that little anarchist "lefty" gnat.

Stacy Abrams was in the news last week sayng she wanted it, keeping her name in there. She would be great, I think. But whoever it is...

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Reply #225 posted 05/06/20 12:58pm

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poppys said:



2elijah said:



I don’t have a particular favorite as to who should be considered Biden’s VP yet. Plus I don’t know much about Klobuchar, to say she can unite the country, when most haven’t heard of her before the presidential campaign. It’s not like her name was as familiar as Warren, and I’m not saying Warren should be the VP pick either. I’m still undecided about the VP pick for now. As far as a circus atmosphere, well trump does that all by himself.


I'm the same 2e, don't have a particular favorite either. In a way, I found it strange that Biden did announce ahead of time that it's going to be a woman, I mean does HE know who yet? Anyway, he's gotta do better on the VP level than Kaine, lol - watching paint dry.


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Reply #226 posted 05/06/20 1:05pm

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poppys said:



DiminutiveRocker said:




2elijah said:


I doubt Harris could carry the Black vote though. I think she had some controversy about a case in the past that I read about some time ago. I have to look for it again. May need some new names thrown in. I have nothing bad to say about Warren, but I don’t think she really wanted to support Biden. Seems more like she was hoping to back Bernie, and she took a while to give her support to Biden. So I’m just not sure who would be a good Female VP pick right now. Maybe some other choices need to be considered.


Yeah, agree - Harris is a no for me too. Is Stacy Abrams still in the pool of candidates?



It was something about law enforcement & incarceration, I think. Bet 2freaky could tell us. Miss that little anarchist "lefty" gnat.

Stacy Abrams was in the news last week sayng she wanted it, keeping her name in there. She would be great, I think. But whoever it is...


Both to you and Dimi—I’m not sure about Abrams, as I don’t know much about her either. I think Biden should have waited to say if it would be a woman or not, because who knows if it will end up being a male choice instead. Whomever it is, has to be a strong candidate, that can’t hurt Biden’s chance of winning. Can’t think of anyone outside of the names already mentioned so far though.
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Reply #227 posted 05/06/20 2:27pm

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2elijah said:

poppys said:

It was something about law enforcement & incarceration, I think. Bet 2freaky could tell us. Miss that little anarchist "lefty" gnat.

Stacy Abrams was in the news last week sayng she wanted it, keeping her name in there. She would be great, I think. But whoever it is...

Both to you and Dimi—I’m not sure about Abrams, as I don’t know much about her either. I think Biden should have waited to say if it would be a woman or not, because who knows if it will end up being a male choice instead. Whomever it is, has to be a strong candidate, that can’t hurt Biden’s chance of winning. Can’t think of anyone outside of the names already mentioned so far though.

Sally Yates? Susan Rice?

Would we be surprised if trump chose somenone other than Pence in 2020?








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Reply #228 posted 05/06/20 5:37pm

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Here are Democrat women currently in Congress:

AZU.S. Sen.Kyrsten Sinema
CAU.S. Sen.Dianne Feinstein
CAU.S. Sen.Kamala Harris
HIU.S. Sen.Mazie Hirono
ILU.S. Sen.L. Tammy Duckworth
MAU.S. Sen.Elizabeth Warren
MIU.S. Sen.Debbie Stabenow
MNU.S. Sen.Amy Klobuchar
MNU.S. Sen.Tina Smith
NHU.S. Sen.Maggie Hassan
NHU.S. Sen.Jeanne Shaheen
NVU.S. Sen.Catherine Cortez Masto
NVU.S. Sen.Jacklyn Rosen
NYU.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
WAU.S. Sen.Maria Cantwell
WAU.S. Sen.Patty Murray
WIU.S. Sen.Tammy Baldwin

AL U.S. Rep. Terri Sewell
AZ U.S. Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick
CA U.S. Rep. Doris Matsui
CA U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi
CA U.S. Rep. Barbara Lee
CAU.S. Rep. Doris Matsui
CA U.S. Rep. Jackie Speier
CA U.S. Rep. Anna Eshoo
CA U.S. Rep. Zoe Lofgren
CA U.S. Rep. Julia Brownley

CA U.S. Rep. Judy Chu
CA U.S. Rep. Grace Napolitano
CA U.S. Rep. Norma Torres
CA U.S. Rep. Karen Bass
CA U.S. Rep. Linda Sanchez
CA U.S. Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard
CA U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters
CA U.S. Rep. Nanette Barragan
CA U.S. Rep. Katherine Porter
CA U.S. Rep. Susan Davis
COU.S. Rep.Diana DeGette
CTU.S. Rep. Rosa DeLauro
CT U.S. Rep. Jahana Hayes
DCU.S. Del.Eleanor Holmes Norton
DEU.S. Rep.ALLisa Blunt Rochester
FLU.S. Rep.Stephanie Murphy
FL U.S. Rep. Val Demings
FL U.S. Rep. Kathy Castor
FL U.S. Rep. Lois Frankel
FL U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz
FL U.S. Rep. Frederica Wilson
FL U.S. Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell
FL U.S. Rep. Donna Shalala
GAU.S. Rep. Lucy McBath
HI U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard
IA U.S. Rep. Abby Finkenauer
IA U.S. Rep. Cindy Axne
ILU.S. Rep.Robin L. Kelly
IL U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky
IL U.S. Rep. Lauren Underwood
IL U.S. Rep. Cheri Bustos
KSU.S. Rep.Sharice Davids
MEU.S. Rep. Chellie Pingree
MAU.S. Rep.Lori Trahan
MA U.S. Rep. Katherine Clark
MA U.S. Rep. Ayanna Pressley
MI U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin
MI U.S. Rep. Haley Stevens
MI U.S. Rep. Debbie Dingell
MI U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib
MI U.S. Rep. Brenda Lawrence
MNU.S. Rep.Angela Craig
MN U.S. Rep. Betty McCollum
MN U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar
NCU.S. Rep.Alma Adams
NHU.S. Rep.Ann McLane Kuster
NJU.S. Rep.Mikie Sherrill
NJ U.S. Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman
NMU.S. Rep.Debra Haaland
NM U.S. Rep. Xochitl Torres Small
NVU.S. Rep.Dina Titus
NV U.S. Rep. Susie Lee
NYU.S. Rep.Kathleen Rice
NY U.S. Rep. Grace Meng
NY U.S. Rep. Nydia Velazquez
NY U.S. Rep. Yvette Clarke
NY U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney
NY U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
NY U.S. Rep. Nita Lowey
OHU.S. Rep.Joyce Beatty
OH U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur
OH U.S. Rep. Marcia Fudge
OKU.S. Rep.Kendra Horn
ORU.S. Rep. Suzanne Bonamici
PAU.S. Rep.Madeleine Dean
PA U.S. Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon
PA U.S. Rep. Chrissy Houlahan
PA U.S. Rep. Susan Wild
TXU.S. Rep.Elizabeth Pannill Fletcher
TX U.S. Rep. Veronica Escobar
TX U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee
TX U.S. Rep. Sylvia Garcia
TX U.S. Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson
VAU.S. Rep.Elaine Luria
VA U.S. Rep. Abigail Spanberger
VA U.S. Rep. Jennifer Wexton
VIU.S. Del.Stacey Plaskett
WAU.S. Rep. Suzan DelBene
WA U.S. Rep. Pramila Jayapal
WA U.S. Rep. Kim Schrier
WIU.S. Rep.Gwen Moore

Biden has quite a few that he could choose from just within Congress. (I never realized how many females in Congress were Democrats.) He could go with an unknown, but I don't think he will. I think he will want to choose someone with name recognition.

Btw, there only 9 Female Republican Senators vs. 17 Female Democratic Senators, this is out of 100 Senators. And there are only 14 Female Republican Representatives vs. 91 Female Democrat Representatives, this is out of 435 Representatives total.

Ladies, are you feeling well represented?

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Reply #229 posted 05/06/20 6:02pm

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^

Also how many of those congresswomen actually want that job? Some may be happy right where they are. That's not a job everyone wants.

And also timing. Even if it's a job someone wants, it may not be the right time for them to commit to such a position.

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Reply #230 posted 05/06/20 7:10pm

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v10letblues said:

Speaking of toxic, someone is out of xanax.

again.

Yeah, Trump was tweeting at 1 am, he must be out of his meds.

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Reply #231 posted 05/07/20 5:59am

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v10letblues said:

It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber.


You really do have to remember that Hillary got 3 MILLION MORE VOTES than Trump. The cult did not win him the election. The outdated electoral college did.
And Russian interference. And gerrymandering. He actually got 10 million less votes when you combine the others that received votes as well. His cult will be powerless if people would just get off their asses and VOTE. Blue, No Matter Who. And I'm all for alienating that 30 percent of the voting public that are actually brain dead. There is no reasoning with them, as we've seen these past 3 years. Their racist, gun worshipping, selfish asses need to be silenced and we can only do that by VOTING. VOTING. VOTING.


77,000 votes in 3 states won that election. Where's Rodeo to elaborate? lol

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Reply #232 posted 05/07/20 6:04am

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v10letblues said:

Speaking of toxic, someone is out of xanax.

again.


Yeah, Trump was tweeting at 1 am, he must be out of his meds.


Classic Trump move there anyway. If you can't explain your debate position, just attack other people personally.

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poppys said:

13cjk13 said:


You really do have to remember that Hillary got 3 MILLION MORE VOTES than Trump. The cult did not win him the election. The outdated electoral college did.
And Russian interference. And gerrymandering. He actually got 10 million less votes when you combine the others that received votes as well. His cult will be powerless if people would just get off their asses and VOTE. Blue, No Matter Who. And I'm all for alienating that 30 percent of the voting public that are actually brain dead. There is no reasoning with them, as we've seen these past 3 years. Their racist, gun worshipping, selfish asses need to be silenced and we can only do that by VOTING. VOTING. VOTING.


77,000 votes in 3 states won that election. Where's Rodeo to elaborate? lol



lol I was thinking that too!

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Justice Dept under Barr has dropped the case against Flynn, stating they do not believe they can prove the case against Flynn. This ignores the fact that Flynn admitted to everything, struck a plea deal even. I have a feeling that this was done in an attempt to help Trump's re-election, because his base believes that Russia was "nothing but a Democratic hoax". By doing this, Barr is throwing his base a bone, because he knows Trump won't be re-elected on the economy or jobs numbers now, or on his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic. This way they can say, "See? Trump is getting rid of the Deep State, one by one."

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benni said:

Justice Dept under Barr has dropped the case against Flynn, stating they do not believe they can prove the case against Flynn. This ignores the fact that Flynn admitted to everything, struck a plea deal even. I have a feeling that this was done in an attempt to help Trump's re-election, because his base believes that Russia was "nothing but a Democratic hoax". By doing this, Barr is throwing his base a bone, because he knows Trump won't be re-elected on the economy or jobs numbers now, or on his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic. This way they can say, "See? Trump is getting rid of the Deep State, one by one."


Oh, sure. Barr is his bitch and does his bidding. Flynn plead guilty. Makes no sense. Doesn't a jFed udge have to agree to/rule on this?

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Reply #236 posted 05/07/20 4:37pm

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benni said:

Justice Dept under Barr has dropped the case against Flynn, stating they do not believe they can prove the case against Flynn. This ignores the fact that Flynn admitted to everything, struck a plea deal even. I have a feeling that this was done in an attempt to help Trump's re-election, because his base believes that Russia was "nothing but a Democratic hoax". By doing this, Barr is throwing his base a bone, because he knows Trump won't be re-elected on the economy or jobs numbers now, or on his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic. This way they can say, "See? Trump is getting rid of the Deep State, one by one."

Just wait til trump loses, and what he will do to our Nation thru Nov-Jan. We are gonna be so screwed.

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Reply #237 posted 05/07/20 4:40pm

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PennyPurple said:

benni said:

Justice Dept under Barr has dropped the case against Flynn, stating they do not believe they can prove the case against Flynn. This ignores the fact that Flynn admitted to everything, struck a plea deal even. I have a feeling that this was done in an attempt to help Trump's re-election, because his base believes that Russia was "nothing but a Democratic hoax". By doing this, Barr is throwing his base a bone, because he knows Trump won't be re-elected on the economy or jobs numbers now, or on his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic. This way they can say, "See? Trump is getting rid of the Deep State, one by one."

Just wait til trump loses, and what he will do to our Nation thru Nov-Jan. We are gonna be so screwed.

i honestly think bill maher is right and hes gonna refuse to leave. argue there were voting inconsistancies and whatever else he can do to pretend he didnt lose

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Reply #238 posted 05/07/20 5:06pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

benni said:

Justice Dept under Barr has dropped the case against Flynn, stating they do not believe they can prove the case against Flynn. This ignores the fact that Flynn admitted to everything, struck a plea deal even. I have a feeling that this was done in an attempt to help Trump's re-election, because his base believes that Russia was "nothing but a Democratic hoax". By doing this, Barr is throwing his base a bone, because he knows Trump won't be re-elected on the economy or jobs numbers now, or on his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic. This way they can say, "See? Trump is getting rid of the Deep State, one by one."


Oh, sure. Barr is his bitch and does his bidding. Flynn plead guilty. Makes no sense. Doesn't a jFed udge have to agree to/rule on this?


I honestly don't know if the Fed Judge has to rule on it. But one of the prosecutors on the case has withdrawn:

Brandon Van Grack, a former member of special counsel Robert Mueller's team, moved to withdraw from the Justice Department's prosecution of former national security adviser Michael Flynn on Thursday. He did not provide a reason for his withdrawal.

Why it matters: Van Grack leads a team that has been accused by Flynn's attorneys of prosecutorial misconduct. New FBI documents stemming from Flynn's move to withdraw his 2017 guilty plea have amplified conservative claims that prosecutors sought to entrap the former top Trump aide into lying about his conversations with the former Russian ambassador.

Forgot to put the link: https://www.axios.com/mic...5834f.html


But I still think this was a political move, not a judicial one.

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Reply #239 posted 05/07/20 5:46pm

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cborgman said:

PennyPurple said:

Just wait til trump loses, and what he will do to our Nation thru Nov-Jan. We are gonna be so screwed.

i honestly think bill maher is right and hes gonna refuse to leave. argue there were voting inconsistancies and whatever else he can do to pretend he didnt lose

Well, I guess that means we'll just have to take to the streets and run that mother fucking pile of shit right out of town and behind bars where he belongs.

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