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Reply #180 posted 04/30/20 5:20pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

I hear the Orangeman is on melt-down mode - threatening to fire his campaign manager because the ealry polls are shoing Biden ahead in the swing states.

lol

such a sad widdle snowfwake.

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Reply #181 posted 04/30/20 5:25pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

I hear the Orangeman is on melt-down mode - threatening to fire his campaign manager because the ealry polls are shoing Biden ahead in the swing states.

lol

Brad Parscale, his campaign manager, is particularly vile.

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Reply #182 posted 05/03/20 8:13pm

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He also threatened to sue his campaign manager. lol

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Reply #183 posted 05/03/20 9:15pm

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PennyPurple said:

He also threatened to sue his campaign manager. lol



lol ridiculous!

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Reply #184 posted 05/05/20 9:29am

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If Biden picks Warren, you can be assured Trump will get a second term.

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Reply #185 posted 05/05/20 10:14am

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v10letblues said:

If Biden picks Warren, you can be assured Trump will get a second term.

Why?

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Reply #186 posted 05/05/20 10:14am

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v10letblues said:

If Biden picks Warren, you can be assured Trump will get a second term.


Not necessarily:

The presumptive Democratic nominee said he'll name a woman to join him as vice president on the ticket, and 71% of registered Democrats and Democratic leaners say he should consider Warren, according to a CBS News/YouGov poll released Sunday.

Fifty-nine percent say he should consider Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., 50% say the same for former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams and 49% for Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.

Asked whom Biden should pick for the ticket if he had to choose today, Warren leads the group with 36%, followed by Harris at 19%, Abrams at 14% and Klobuchar at 13%. Others on the list, such as Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, struggle with name recognition among about half or voters.

https://www.usatoday.com/...076547001/


https://www.motherjones.c...bidens-vp/

https://www.statesman.com...ident-pick

All of them essentially say the same thing, and they are from within the past day or two.

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Reply #187 posted 05/05/20 10:21am

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13cjk13 said:

v10letblues said:

If Biden picks Warren, you can be assured Trump will get a second term.


Why?


Yes, why?

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Reply #188 posted 05/05/20 10:36am

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poppys said:

13cjk13 said:


Why?


Yes, why?

I can only tell you what some people have said to me. Many believe Warren is as bat-shit crazy as Trump! Biden needs to choose someone that is not as over the top as Warren.

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Reply #189 posted 05/05/20 10:52am

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poppys said:


Yes, why?

I can only tell you what some people have said to me. Many believe Warren is as bat-shit crazy as Trump! Biden needs to choose someone that is not as over the top as Warren.

In what way is she bat-shit crazy? Over the top? Are thexe Bernie bots telling you this? I'm curious.

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Reply #190 posted 05/05/20 11:32am

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Empress said:

poppys said:


Yes, why?

I can only tell you what some people have said to me. Many believe Warren is as bat-shit crazy as Trump! Biden needs to choose someone that is not as over the top as Warren.


Polls are showing, however, that the majority of democrats want Warren on the ticket. She is leading, even over Kamala Harris, who I also like. Apparently, not many believe she is "bat-shit crazy" in general, when 71% of Democrats and Democrat leaners think he should pick Warren.

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Reply #191 posted 05/05/20 11:33am

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Why? Because these "progressives are toxic. There are just as much a cult as the right wingers. Like a religion. And as someone who has come accross so many of the youtube channels from the likes of The Hill to Jimmy Dore, i don't think the general population can stomach these folks either.

Right wingers will highlight how toxic they are.

I like Biden, i just think he is way past his prime. But most of all I like that he represents a more balanced and pragmatic non cult part of the democratic party. JUst as Obama was, Let's remember how Obama was able to get the affordable care act passed. It was pragmatism. And Biden has promised to build on that,

Besides, Warren herself is way past her prime too. Biden needs to nominate young blood. The party desperately needs to start grooming a new generation. They have become an old party for old people just as much as the republican party and have left an opening for the cultish element of the party to fester and grow like a cancer without new blood being groomed.

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Reply #192 posted 05/05/20 12:15pm

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Why? Because these "progressives are toxic. There are just as much a cult as the right wingers. Like a religion. And as someone who has come accross so many of the youtube channels from the likes of The Hill to Jimmy Dore, i don't think the general population can stomach these folks either.

Right wingers will highlight how toxic they are.

I like Biden, i just think he is way past his prime. But most of all I like that he represents a more balanced and pragmatic non cult part of the democratic party. JUst as Obama was, Let's remember how Obama was able to get the affordable care act passed. It was pragmatism. And Biden has promised to build on that,

Besides, Warren herself is way past her prime too. Biden needs to nominate young blood. The party desperately needs to start grooming a new generation. They have become an old party for old people just as much as the republican party and have left an opening for the cultish element of the party to fester and grow like a cancer without new blood being groomed.

There is absolutely NOTHING as toxic as Trump and the current administration and the current republican party for that matter. Nothing or nobody. The caging of children, the rolling back of environmental protections, the racism, the filling of the courts with absolutely vile right wing assholes, the Trump rallies for god's sake. Really, the general public can't stomach equal rights, a president and cabinet that isn't filled with toxic, disgusting racist mysogynistic homophobes? Damn, it's sad that the public can't stomach the thought of a green new deal, or equal pay for women, or programs to help the less fortunate, or a less bloated military budget, or sensible gun laws. Toxic stuff. Seriously, if the public thinks the current batch of progressives are toxic, then the public isn't paying attention, and the public are far more selfish and racist than I had ever imagined. This left wing "cult", I think, is just the response to the actual, real cult that Donald John Trump is currently operating. I just think they're fighting fire with fire out of desperation considering the unprecedented criminal enterprise currently being run in the white house. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

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Reply #193 posted 05/05/20 12:36pm

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13cjk13 said:

v10letblues said:

If Biden picks Warren, you can be assured Trump will get a second term.


Why?


v10letblues said:

Why? Because these "progressives are toxic. There are just as much a cult as the right wingers. Like a religion. And as someone who has come accross so many of the youtube channels from the likes of The Hill to Jimmy Dore, i don't think the general population can stomach these folks either.

Right wingers will highlight how toxic they are.

I like Biden, i just think he is way past his prime. But most of all I like that he represents a more balanced and pragmatic non cult part of the democratic party. JUst as Obama was, Let's remember how Obama was able to get the affordable care act passed. It was pragmatism. And Biden has promised to build on that,

Besides, Warren herself is way past her prime too. Biden needs to nominate young blood. The party desperately needs to start grooming a new generation. They have become an old party for old people just as much as the republican party and have left an opening for the cultish element of the party to fester and grow like a cancer without new blood being groomed.


Trump will be assured a second term if Biden chooses Warren "because these progressives are toxic"? LOL

I'm still waiting for what you think Biden is supposed to apologize for too.

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Reply #194 posted 05/05/20 12:52pm

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v10letblues said:

Why? Because these "progressives are toxic. There are just as much a cult as the right wingers. Like a religion. And as someone who has come accross so many of the youtube channels from the likes of The Hill to Jimmy Dore, i don't think the general population can stomach these folks either.


Right wingers will highlight how toxic they are.



I like Biden, i just think he is way past his prime. But most of all I like that he represents a more balanced and pragmatic non cult part of the democratic party. JUst as Obama was, Let's remember how Obama was able to get the affordable care act passed. It was pragmatism. And Biden has promised to build on that,


Besides, Warren herself is way past her prime too. Biden needs to nominate young blood. The party desperately needs to start grooming a new generation. They have become an old party for old people just as much as the republican party and have left an opening for the cultish element of the party to fester and grow like a cancer without new blood being groomed.


I honestly didn’t see anyone stopping younger candidates from running for president. Bernie is an older man, yet drew a young following, so it’s seems more about the candidates’ political beliefs, ideology, like-minded interests/concerns, etc., that draws voters to them, not their age.
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Reply #195 posted 05/05/20 12:55pm

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13cjk13 said:



Empress said:




poppys said:




Yes, why?



I can only tell you what some people have said to me. Many believe Warren is as bat-shit crazy as Trump! Biden needs to choose someone that is not as over the top as Warren.



In what way is she bat-shit crazy? Over the top? Are thexe Bernie bots telling you this? I'm curious.

I had no idea that’s what many thought of Warren either, and I would also like to know why some think Warren is bat-shit crazy.
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Reply #196 posted 05/05/20 12:57pm

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It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case.
Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber.
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Reply #197 posted 05/05/20 1:08pm

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And yet, everyone is ignoring the poll that showed 71% of Democrats and Democrat leaning individuals favor Warren as the running mate to Biden.

I honestly think it is only a subset group of people that disapprove of Warren or view her in a negative light. I've not seen anyone speak out against Warren except for some Bernie folks who have said, "Why would people vote for Warren when they could have voted for Bernie?" Warren appeals to even more centrist Democrats, as well as even some independents who lean right, over Trump and his party.

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Reply #198 posted 05/05/20 1:16pm

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v10letblues said:

It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber. [Edited 5/5/20 12:59pm]

You really do have to remember that Hillary got 3 MILLION MORE VOTES than Trump. The cult did not win him the election. The outdated electoral college did. And Russian interference. And gerrymandering. He actually got 10 million less votes when you combine the others that received votes as well. His cult will be powerless if people would just get off their asses and VOTE. Blue, No Matter Who. And I'm all for alienating that 30 percent of the voting public that are actually brain dead. There is no reasoning with them, as we've seen these past 3 years. Their racist, gun worshipping, selfish asses need to be silenced and we can only do that by VOTING. VOTING. VOTING.

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Reply #199 posted 05/05/20 1:23pm

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13cjk13 said:

v10letblues said:

It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber. [Edited 5/5/20 12:59pm]

You really do have to remember that Hillary got 3 MILLION MORE VOTES than Trump. The cult did not win him the election. The outdated electoral college did. And Russian interference. And gerrymandering. He actually got 10 million less votes when you combine the others that received votes as well. His cult will be powerless if people would just get off their asses and VOTE. Blue, No Matter Who. And I'm all for alienating that 30 percent of the voting public that are actually brain dead. There is no reasoning with them, as we've seen these past 3 years. Their racist, gun worshipping, selfish asses need to be silenced and we can only do that by VOTING. VOTING. VOTING.


The problem is that Trump has always looked for ways in the system to cheat it. Trump and his team found that by going after the electorate. I cannot imagine the electorate voting for Trump again. I think there will be more of the electorate who will choose to be faithless electors.

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Reply #200 posted 05/05/20 1:34pm

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It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber.

In the first place there is no .org bubble of "us", who all think the same. So, no need for reminders.

There are collective values used when voting. Most Democrats are moderates and not in a progressive cult anyway. As far as the bolded part of your post goes, I have no idea what you are getting at.

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Reply #201 posted 05/05/20 1:53pm

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benni said:

13cjk13 said:

You really do have to remember that Hillary got 3 MILLION MORE VOTES than Trump. The cult did not win him the election. The outdated electoral college did. And Russian interference. And gerrymandering. He actually got 10 million less votes when you combine the others that received votes as well. His cult will be powerless if people would just get off their asses and VOTE. Blue, No Matter Who. And I'm all for alienating that 30 percent of the voting public that are actually brain dead. There is no reasoning with them, as we've seen these past 3 years. Their racist, gun worshipping, selfish asses need to be silenced and we can only do that by VOTING. VOTING. VOTING.


The problem is that Trump has always looked for ways in the system to cheat it. Trump and his team found that by going after the electorate. I cannot imagine the electorate voting for Trump again. I think there will be more of the electorate who will choose to be faithless electors.

God willing ^


IMO, Trump will have to literally cheat or claim voter fraud in order to win again. Nothing should worry him more than alarge voter turn out. In 2016 voter turn out was low, and no one saw a Trump win. But now that we are nearly 3/12 years into this horror show, staying home is no longer an optiion. The result, as we have learned, can lead to severe damage to this country.

The turn out was great in 2018.

In 2020 it needs to be even greater.

2008 numbers or higher.

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Reply #202 posted 05/05/20 1:55pm

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poppys said:

v10letblues said:

It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber.

In the first place there is no .org bubble of "us", who all think the same. So, no need for reminders.

There are collective values used when voting. Most Democrats are moderates and not in a progressive cult anyway. As far as the bolded part of your post goes, I have no idea what you are getting at.

relax

And you all are preaching to the choir when you respond. I know where you guys are coming from but it really DOES seem you need reminding.

Absooutely require reminding especially the likes of you. Too wound up to respond to. I should know better. Won't do it again.

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13cjk13 said:

v10letblues said:

It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber. [Edited 5/5/20 12:59pm]

You really do have to remember that Hillary got 3 MILLION MORE VOTES than Trump. The cult did not win him the election. The outdated electoral college did. And Russian interference. And gerrymandering. He actually got 10 million less votes when you combine the others that received votes as well. His cult will be powerless if people would just get off their asses and VOTE. Blue, No Matter Who. And I'm all for alienating that 30 percent of the voting public that are actually brain dead. There is no reasoning with them, as we've seen these past 3 years. Their racist, gun worshipping, selfish asses need to be silenced and we can only do that by VOTING. VOTING. VOTING.

Absolutely . I agree with all that.

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Reply #204 posted 05/05/20 2:12pm

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poppys said:

In the first place there is no .org bubble of "us", who all think the same. So, no need for reminders.

There are collective values used when voting. Most Democrats are moderates and not in a progressive cult anyway. As far as the bolded part of your post goes, I have no idea what you are getting at.


relax

And you all are preaching to the choir when you respond. I know where you guys are coming from but it really DOES seem you need reminding.

Absooutely require reminding especially the likes of you. Too wound up to respond to. I should know better. Won't do it again.


Likes of me? What is that? Bless your heart telling me to relax chere. Interesting you called "us" the "usual suspects" in a post recently, still absorbing that.

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Reply #205 posted 05/06/20 4:57am

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v10letblues said:

It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case.
Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber.
[Edited 5/5/20 12:59pm]

You basically summed up the democrats as one and the same, by suggesting democrats can’t let themselves believe there are others that don’t think differently. Why would you believe they don’t think others think differently? Of course they see it. Who could miss that many of trumps’ supporters don’t see trump as toxic? That’s the problem right there.

Lets go back during that last election year. You have to remember all the shit tat was going on during that election period. Many of trump’s voters didn’t know much about him, especially the ones who were mesmerized by his outlandish, reality tv show personalit, and thought his rudeness was hilarious. Then there’s the cult (white nationalists/ nazi types/and many in rural communities)where trump spoke their language of racial division, hatred and ignorance). He already knew he had those toes in his pocket.

The there were some in the middle, who were surprised and brainwashed by his concerns and interests for the white community only, and his boldness of saying in public, what many of them say in the dark and at their dinner tables. That’s what won him those types of voters. What caused Hillary to lose votes at the last minute, was trump’s constant talk of Hillary’s emails, which had many Bernie supporters in limbo, and were already angry that Bernie lost to Hillary. Then not to mention Bernie’s, public angst towards the Democratic Party after losing, to Hillary and suggesting in public, that some Democrat officials intentionally didn’t want him to be the winner. That made many Beenie supporters angry, so they either voted for trump or didn’t vote at all. Then the bombshell from Comey just a few days before the election about Hillary’s emails, really left a lot of Democratic voters unsure about Hillary.

Yes, Trump played the game well against her, because of course, he’s always been good at conning people. but if the Comey thing didn’t happen, I believe Hillary would have won. Many of us have always said trump knows the supporters he wants to attract, and what to say to draw them in, no matter how low he has to go to do it, and who will fall for anything he says. It’s not difficult to figure that out.
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Reply #206 posted 05/06/20 5:08am

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If Biden can't win against Trump, then this country will never be the country that I grew up believing in.

Ladies and Gentlemen, our President:


WASHINGTON — President Trump said Monday that “everybody” enjoyed his White House coronavirus briefings — including himself — and vowed they will be back, just not daily.

In an Oval Office interview with The Post during which he predicted a strong economic rebound from the coronavirus crisis by the end of the year, and offered his opinions on presumptive Democratic challenger Joe Biden’s best pick for a running mate and the sex assault allegations facing the former vice president, Trump said the briefings were must-see TV.

And he credited his frequent clashes with reporters for making engaging content.

“We set every record with those press conferences. Six million people all the time. You know we had tremendous numbers, literally, it was in [Fox News host] Bret Baier’s slot, and we did like 30 in a row,” Trump said.

“I heard, is this true? It was the highest-rated hour in cable television history. That’s what I heard. I don’t know if that’s true.”

Trump, who ended the daily briefings last week, said there would continue to be one or two a week as he pivots from crisis management to reopening the economy. He said his new White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, would be holding court at some of those sessions.

The president mused about the difference between his coronavirus briefings and his formerly packed rallies, made impossible by the spread of the virus, which has sickened more than 1 million Americans, killed nearly 70,000, and left 30 million unemployed.

A lack of re-election rallies before November would be “a big disadvantage,” he said.

“I hope we’re going to be able to get the rallies back before the election,” Trump said. “I actually think it’s very important. I think that would be a big — a big disadvantage to me if we didn’t, if we couldn’t have the rallies back.

“People are wanting the rallies. They want to have them so badly. They were informative but they were fun.”

Trump asked reporters from The Post whether rallies or his coronavirus briefings at the White House were more important, connecting the two forums as ways to “get around the fake news.”

“So, which is more important, the rally or the press conferences?” Trump inquired.

Asked for his own preference, the president said: “I think they both work. You know, they are very different, though, I suspect.”

Trump said he enjoys sparring with reporters in the White House briefing room and that he believes “everybody” likes watching it, even senior citizens who his advisers began to believe were being turned off by hostile exchanges.

“I was told that some people didn’t like the combative attitude so much. And I can a little bit understand that. But I would say from the standpoint of watching it and wanting to watch, that would be more interesting than having boring questions asked.

“And you know, at the same time, they shouldn’t be asking the same question every press conference just trying to get a rise, you know."...

“Yeah, I do, I, I’m OK with it. I’d rather have a normal, you know, normal — a more normal situation, but I do. And they like it. Some people don’t like it. I have a feeling everybody likes it because, you know, it’s more exciting than sitting there falling asleep.”


More here: https://nypost.com/2020/0...-cbs-news/

He goes on to opine about how two of the female reporters were not "Donna Reed".

I honestly thought I was reading an Onion article. This country will take years to recover from the mess Trump created.

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Reply #207 posted 05/06/20 5:45am

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^^ OMG - sounds like a parody - but nope. Funny how the game show host got his biggest ratings when the "audience" was fearing death, huh??
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Reply #208 posted 05/06/20 8:01am

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I don't think anyone can get through to Trump voters by now, all we can hope to get is all those that regret that they votes for him.

Sane people all know that Trump needs to go,but you can't fight one toxic with another and hope it will all work out. Let's remember that Warren has never even stated how she would pay for her overhaul, and how tearing down Obamacare for something completely new from scratch could even pass or be enacted in a voters lifetime.

It's not about Trump VS democrats, it's toxic vs toxic. Biden needs someone like Amy Klobuchar who hasn't drank the kool aid and can united the country not contine the circus that will sure to open up again if Warrren gets the nomination.

2elijah said:

v10letblues said:
It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber. [Edited 5/5/20 12:59pm]
You basically summed up the democrats as one and the same, by suggesting democrats can’t let themselves believe there are others that don’t think differently. Why would you believe they don’t think others think differently? Of course they see it. Who could miss that many of trumps’ supporters don’t see trump as toxic? That’s the problem right there. Lets go back during that last election year. You have to remember all the shit tat was going on during that election period. Many of trump’s voters didn’t know much about him, especially the ones who were mesmerized by his outlandish, reality tv show personalit, and thought his rudeness was hilarious. Then there’s the cult (white nationalists/ nazi types/and many in rural communities)where trump spoke their language of racial division, hatred and ignorance). He already knew he had those toes in his pocket. The there were some in the middle, who were surprised and brainwashed by his concerns and interests for the white community only, and his boldness of saying in public, what many of them say in the dark and at their dinner tables. That’s what won him those types of voters. What caused Hillary to lose votes at the last minute, was trump’s constant talk of Hillary’s emails, which had many Bernie supporters in limbo, and were already angry that Bernie lost to Hillary. Then not to mention Bernie’s, public angst towards the Democratic Party after losing, to Hillary and suggesting in public, that some Democrat officials intentionally didn’t want him to be the winner. That made many Beenie supporters angry, so they either voted for trump or didn’t vote at all. Then the bombshell from Comey just a few days before the election about Hillary’s emails, really left a lot of Democratic voters unsure about Hillary. Yes, Trump played the game well against her, because of course, he’s always been good at conning people. but if the Comey thing didn’t happen, I believe Hillary would have won. Many of us have always said trump knows the supporters he wants to attract, and what to say to draw them in, no matter how low he has to go to do it, and who will fall for anything he says. It’s not difficult to figure that out. [Edited 5/6/20 5:07am]

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2elijah said:

v10letblues said:
It would be nice if we lived in a bubble where EVERYONE thought the same as us. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. Trump won the last election. Let’s remember that. There is a cult that doesn’t think Trump is toxic. That cult won him the election. The Democrats can’t let themselves believe that there are not people that think differently. They can’t alienate ANY of the voting public and think that the progressive cult is more palatable to those that are not part of the left leaning echo-chamber. [Edited 5/5/20 12:59pm]

You basically summed up the democrats as one and the same, by suggesting democrats can’t let themselves believe there are others that don’t think differently. Why would you believe they don’t think others think differently? Of course they see it. Who could miss that many of trumps’ supporters don’t see trump as toxic? That’s the problem right there. Lets go back during that last election year. You have to remember all the shit tat was going on during that election period. Many of trump’s voters didn’t know much about him, especially the ones who were mesmerized by his outlandish, reality tv show personalit, and thought his rudeness was hilarious. Then there’s the cult (white nationalists/ nazi types/and many in rural communities)where trump spoke their language of racial division, hatred and ignorance). He already knew he had those toes in his pocket. The there were some in the middle, who were surprised and brainwashed by his concerns and interests for the white community only, and his boldness of saying in public, what many of them say in the dark and at their dinner tables. That’s what won him those types of voters. What caused Hillary to lose votes at the last minute, was trump’s constant talk of Hillary’s emails, which had many Bernie supporters in limbo, and were already angry that Bernie lost to Hillary. Then not to mention Bernie’s, public angst towards the Democratic Party after losing, to Hillary and suggesting in public, that some Democrat officials intentionally didn’t want him to be the winner. That made many Beenie supporters angry, so they either voted for trump or didn’t vote at all. Then the bombshell from Comey just a few days before the election about Hillary’s emails, really left a lot of Democratic voters unsure about Hillary. Yes, Trump played the game well against her, because of course, he’s always been good at conning people. but if the Comey thing didn’t happen, I believe Hillary would have won. Many of us have always said trump knows the supporters he wants to attract, and what to say to draw them in, no matter how low he has to go to do it, and who will fall for anything he says. It’s not difficult to figure that out.


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