2020 Presidential election

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jjhunsecker said:

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The ONLY thing that matters in the Election

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Reply #122 posted 04/14/20 11:07am

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Someone on social in response to Democrats endorsing Biden posted the sarcastic hashtag #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoRapesYou

Democrats are not better than republicans.
And they now have no credibility.

It’s no surprise that these sexual predators also support policies that have no respect for anyone else.
Sexual predation, war crimes and the inherent exploitative nature of capitalism are not not contradictions, but actually all come from the same mindset and rationale.

Biden is even worse than Hillary Clinton.

It makes absolutely no difference now who wins.

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Reply #123 posted 04/14/20 11:09am

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hausofmoi7 said:
Someone on social in response to Democrats endorsing Biden posted the sarcastic hashtag #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoRapesYou Democrats are not better than republicans. And they now have no credibility. It’s no surprise that these sexual predators also support policies that have no respect for anyone else. Sexual predation, war crimes and the inherent exploitative nature of capitalism are not not contradictions but all come from the same mindset and rationale. Biden is even worse than Hillary Clinton. It makes absolutely no difference now who wins.

Those wacky russian bots and their crazy hashtags. But they obviously work with some folks! Meanwhile there is an ACTUAL rapist in the White House. True story.

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Reply #124 posted 04/14/20 11:12am

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13cjk13 said:

hausofmoi7 said:
Someone on social in response to Democrats endorsing Biden posted the sarcastic hashtag #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoRapesYou Democrats are not better than republicans. And they now have no credibility. It’s no surprise that these sexual predators also support policies that have no respect for anyone else. Sexual predation, war crimes and the inherent exploitative nature of capitalism are not not contradictions but all come from the same mindset and rationale. Biden is even worse than Hillary Clinton. It makes absolutely no difference now who wins.

Those wacky russian bots and their crazy hashtags. But they obviously work with some folks! Meanwhile there is an ACTUAL rapist in the White House. True story.

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when was trump convicted? it is fine to call him a rapist i called bill clinton a rapist and his 'wife' an rape apologist... but I just want to have it on record that you can not get all mad if i call biden one too.

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Reply #125 posted 04/14/20 11:17am

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poppys said:

jjhunsecker said:

heart heart heart

Yes, can’t wait until that idiot is finally out of office.

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Reply #126 posted 04/14/20 11:17am

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13cjk13 said:

hausofmoi7 said:

Someone on social in response to Democrats endorsing Biden posted the sarcastic hashtag #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoRapesYou Democrats are not better than republicans. And they now have no credibility. It’s no surprise that these sexual predators also support policies that have no respect for anyone else. Sexual predation, war crimes and the inherent exploitative nature of capitalism are not not contradictions but all come from the same mindset and rationale. Biden is even worse than Hillary Clinton. It makes absolutely no difference now who wins.

Those wacky russian bots and their crazy hashtags. But they obviously work with some folks! Meanwhile there is an ACTUAL rapist in the White House. True story.

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Those wacky corporate Democrat bots.
It’s been proven that they are covering for Biden and are paid to cover for him.
No-one is defending Trump.

Your constant retort to every issue being Russia’s fault is odd.
Yes everything is Russia’s fault.
Russia made America racist, Russia made Biden a rapist.
I’m not even defending Russia, I’ve pointed out their involvement with the u.s , China, most of Europe and even Australia when discussing the global arms trade and how these nations arms manufacturers are fueling global conflicts.

”by February she learned from a new conversation with Time’s Up, which also involved Director Sharyn Tejani, that no assistance could be provided because the person she was accusing, Biden, was a candidate for federal office, and assisting a case against him could jeopardize the organisations non profit status.”
https://theintercept.com/...5MrTm7KjLQ

You will not address the facts above as there is a virtual gag order on addressing Biden’s rape allegations.
Just like there is a virtual gag order for addressing war crimes, foreign policy and institutional racism.

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Reply #127 posted 04/14/20 11:30am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

2elijah said:

Good to hear. https://www.nytimes.com/2...ement.html Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden for President ”The Vermont senator added the weight of his left-wing support to Mr. Biden’s candidacy in a step toward Democratic uniting the Democratic party against President Trump. Senator Bernie Sanders endorsed Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the Democratic nominee for president on Monday, adding the weight of his left-wing support to Mr. Biden’s candidacy and taking a major step toward bringing unity to the party’s effort to unseat President Trump in November. In throwing his weight behind his former rival, Mr. Sanders is sending an unmistakable signal that his supporters — who are known for their intense loyalty — should do so as well, at a moment when Mr. Biden still faces deep skepticism from many younger progressives. The two men appeared via live stream on split screens — each on each other’s live streams — talking to each other. “We need you in the White House,” Mr. Sanders said to Mr. Biden. “And I will do all that I can to make that happen.” Mr. Biden said: “I’m going to need you. Not just to win the campaign, but to govern.” Mr. Sanders, who dropped out of the presidential race last week, hinted his intentions in a Twitter post shortly before the appearance. Mr. Biden provided his own clue, saying he would be “joined by a special guest" for his scheduled live stream at 2 p.m.

Do I smell a possible bernie cabinet appointment if Biden should win? wink

How about that? That would be a big threat to trump.

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Reply #128 posted 04/14/20 1:20pm

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2elijah said:
DiminutiveRocker said:

Do I smell a possible bernie cabinet appointment if Biden should win?

How about that? That would be a big threat to trump.

If the staunch Bernie followers go along with it wink

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Reply #129 posted 04/14/20 1:23pm

poppys	DiminutiveRocker said: 2elijah said: How about that? That would be a big threat to trump. If the staunch Bernie followers go along with it I'm 4 that! "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all"
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Reply #130 posted 04/14/20 1:37pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Do I smell a possible bernie cabinet appointment if Biden should win?

How about that? That would be a big threat to trump.

If the staunch Bernie followers go along with it wink

Many Bernie Supporters were already compromising.
This is now going too far.
Many who were supporting Bernie tend to think for themselves so that’s going to be big problem because unlike hardcore democrats or republicans they are not partisan or brainwashed.
And again, they were already compromising with their support for Bernie.

If Democrat voters would now all vote third party then Trump could be defeated.
If Democrats all voted third party they would actually be supporting what they claim to be about.
But I don’t think they believe what they say and it’s all an act to be the perpetual “lesser of two evils” and telling people to wait until next time.

As James Baldwin said “How long do you want me to wait for your “progress”

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Reply #131 posted 04/14/20 1:43pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

You're right. We should all feel sorry that we don't live in Venezuela so we can all vote for Nicolas Maduro. rolleyes

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Reply #132 posted 04/14/20 1:52pm

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SantanaMaitreya said:

hausofmoi7 said:

You're right. We should all feel sorry that we don't live in Venezuela so we can all vote for Nicolas Maduro. rolleyes

Yes they voted for him because they support the bolivarian revolution.
And you are killing them with sanctions because they voted for him.
And Trump just sent u.s military to the coast of Venezuela.

Like you said they voted for him and that’s their right.
Not yours to decide.

I would vote for Maduro over Biden and Trump any day.

Maduro and Bernie Sanders were quite similar in their domestic policies.
Maduro’s foreign policy was more progressive than Bernie though.
But Bernie endorsing Biden doesn’t make any sense, now people will wonder if Bernie really believed anything he ever said or if he was just sheepdogging.
He could join a third party if he wanted to, Democrat is just a label.
Who cares what party it is as long as it one that upholds your beliefs.

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Reply #133 posted 04/14/20 2:03pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

You're right. We should all feel sorry that we don't live in Venezuela so we can all vote for Nicolas Maduro. rolleyes

Well, in that case, move to Venezuela, get naturalized as a citizen there and your wish will come true! And then maybe, just maybe, you'll find out that it's not Paradise on Earth. Because if it was, people wouldn't be starving and it wouldn't be the most violent country on earth and people wouldn't be fleeing the country in droves. But that, of course, is all the fault of the big bad USofA.

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Reply #134 posted 04/14/20 2:14pm

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SantanaMaitreya said:

hausofmoi7 said:

I’d like to move to Diego Garcia which is part of the country I was born in.
But there is a u.s military base and I’m not allowed to go there.
come get your military and remove your base and then I’ll move back home.

Sanctions are designed to kill.
As Madeline Albright said “the price is worth it”
Literally sanctions are killing people in Venezuela.
And neo-fascist white supremacists funded by the c.i.a are lynching ”chavistas” I.e random black people on the street.
Because race and particularly dark skin complexion is a sign of support for current government and people are being burnt alive.

If your country was sanctioned and you were attacked by racists you may also decide to migrate, that doesn’t mean you necessarily oppose the government.
Many are actually migrating back to Venezuela because of xenophobia from the countries they moved to.

If you’re going to tell the truth then tell it all.
But the whole truth is inconvenient.

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Reply #135 posted 04/14/20 4:00pm

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poppys said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

If the staunch Bernie followers go along with it

I'm 4 that!

We'll see. It is obvious that Bernie lost a lot of support this time around - the youth he touts did not get out and vote in the primary.

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Reply #136 posted 04/14/20 5:09pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

13cjk13 said:

hausofmoi7 said:

Someone on social in response to Democrats endorsing Biden posted the sarcastic hashtag #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoRapesYou Democrats are not better than republicans. And they now have no credibility. It’s no surprise that these sexual predators also support policies that have no respect for anyone else. Sexual predation, war crimes and the inherent exploitative nature of capitalism are not not contradictions but all come from the same mindset and rationale. Biden is even worse than Hillary Clinton. It makes absolutely no difference now who wins.

Those wacky russian bots and their crazy hashtags. But they obviously work with some folks! Meanwhile there is an ACTUAL rapist in the White House. True story.

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*crickets*
Silence was the answer we were expecting.
Democrats have a virtual gag on addressing any of the issues I mentioned above.
Democrats and republicans = death or abuse and oppression.

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Reply #137 posted 04/14/20 5:24pm

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hausofmoi7 said:
hausofmoi7 said:
Those wacky corporate Democrat bots. It’s been proven that they are covering for Biden and are paid to cover for him. No-one is defending Trump. Your constant retort to every issue being Russia’s fault is odd. Yes everything is Russia’s fault. Russia made America racist, Russia made Biden a rapist. I’m not even defending Russia, I’ve pointed out their involvement with the u.s , China, most of Europe and even Australia when discussing the global arms trade and how these nations arms manufacturers are fueling global conflicts. ”by February she learned from a new conversation with Time’s Up, which also involved Director Sharyn Tejani, that no assistance could be provided because the person she was accusing, Biden, was a candidate for federal office, and assisting a case against him could jeopardize the organisations non profit status.” https://theintercept.com/...5MrTm7KjLQ You will not address the facts above as there is a virtual gag order on addressing Biden’s rape allegations. Just like there is a virtual gag order for addressing war crimes, foreign policy and institutional racism. [Edited 4/14/20 12:25pm]
*crickets* Silence was the answer we were expecting. Democrats have a virtual gag on addressing any of the issues I mentioned above. Democrats and republicans = death or abuse and oppression. . [Edited 4/14/20 17:20pm]

There is a thread about this already in which it was discussed: https://prince.org/msg/105/462685

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Reply #138 posted 04/14/20 5:56pm

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benni said:

hausofmoi7 said:

hausofmoi7 said:
Those wacky corporate Democrat bots. It’s been proven that they are covering for Biden and are paid to cover for him. No-one is defending Trump. Your constant retort to every issue being Russia’s fault is odd. Yes everything is Russia’s fault. Russia made America racist, Russia made Biden a rapist. I’m not even defending Russia, I’ve pointed out their involvement with the u.s , China, most of Europe and even Australia when discussing the global arms trade and how these nations arms manufacturers are fueling global conflicts. ”by February she learned from a new conversation with Time’s Up, which also involved Director Sharyn Tejani, that no assistance could be provided because the person she was accusing, Biden, was a candidate for federal office, and assisting a case against him could jeopardize the organisations non profit status.” https://theintercept.com/...5MrTm7KjLQ You will not address the facts above as there is a virtual gag order on addressing Biden’s rape allegations. Just like there is a virtual gag order for addressing war crimes, foreign policy and institutional racism. [Edited 4/14/20 12:25pm]

*crickets* Silence was the answer we were expecting. Democrats have a virtual gag on addressing any of the issues I mentioned above. Democrats and republicans = death or abuse and oppression. . [Edited 4/14/20 17:20pm]

There is a thread abou this already in which it was discussed: https://prince.org/msg/105/462685

Nice try.
This thread is about the election.
Not everyone is restrained by a virtual gag order to discuss these issues
These are relevant issues pertaining to the election.

I commented in that thread.
But this thread let’s me expound on that and how it intersects and connects with other issues I raised within a political context.

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Reply #139 posted 04/14/20 11:45pm

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hausofmoi7 said:
benni said:

There is a thread abou this already in which it was discussed: https://prince.org/msg/105/462685

Nice try. This thread is about the election. Not everyone is restrained by a virtual gag order to discuss these issues These are relevant issues pertaining to the election. I commented in that thread. But this thread let’s me expound on that and how it intersects and connects with other issues I raised within a political context. . [Edited 4/14/20 18:58pm]

There was no "nice try" to it. I wasn't attempting to do anything except to direct you to a thread where people were already discussing the issue you brought up. You stated that the left weren't answering any of your questions about it on this thread, and many of them already contributed to that thread.

As for political context, you'll need to get in line beind Trump who has multiple allegations against him. As for Biden, if what she is saying is true, then it needs to be investigated. However, I sincerely doubt the veracity of her claims.

#1. Sexual predators do NOT act out in the open. The reason for that is because they do not want to draw attention to themselves and their acts, because they know they would receive jail time and that would inhibit their ability to engage in their desired sexual proclivities. Now, they may brag about it with other like minded individuals, or may even mention it as "she was coming on to me", but they do not go around feeling people up in front of other people or on cameras, that includes getting touchy feely with someone in front of others. The very last thing they want to do is draw attention to their intentions.

#2. They don't stand out in a crowd. People will get a "he's kind of creepy" feeling, but they can never put their finger on why, because he's not done anything to draw attention to what he does, it's just a feeling.

#3. Sexual predation is not a sexual act, it is a control act. He will seek to disempower the victim. He will play on the victims insecurities and will engage in gaslighting, to the point that the victim will really begin to believe it is her fault.

#4. Sexual predators have multiple victims. There will always be that whisper of "Well, I heard..." but with no substantive evidence to back it up. Case in point, Epstein. Even Trump commented, "he likes them on the young side". (It still pisses me off that he never reported it if he knew it, and not just him, anyone that had knowledge of what Epstein was doing is complicit as far as I am concerned. And that includes Bill Clinton if he knew.) Weistein was another one that there were whispers. So was Bill Cosby. So was Sandusky. So far the only whispers that have come out about Biden has been that he violates personal space, and it makes people uncomfortable. (Except for this allegation against him.) There have been no other reported instances. And, as we've seen in other cases, usually when one comes out, several more follow right behind. There have been no further reports of anything sexual.

#5. Sexual predators tend to seek out the most vulnerable people, those with low self-esteem, or without family support. From the way she described herself, she was anything but vulnerable and was very outspoken. She would not be the usual victim of a sexual predator. They want someone who is going to be easy to manipulate. They want someone who will not tell, or that they can scare into not telling.

Adding all of that in, then no, I do not see Biden as a sexual predator. I see him as someone who has an issue with boundaries, not realizing that what he does makes other uncomfortable, because he sees himself as the harmless uncle or grandfather, and he was raised to be affectionate, and doesn't stop to think that others may not have been raised in the same way.

I have used my past to describe it before, and I know the amount of secrecy that goes into what a predator does. Anyone that met those that abused me, would never have suspected them of it. Why? Because they would not draw attention to themselves in that way. They would not have wanted to even give a hint of what they were thinking or doing because that would risk them getting caught, and that is the last thing they want to do.

His actions, and he, does not fit the profile of a sexual predator.

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Reply #140 posted 04/15/20 12:54am

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I know it's just about getting Trump out of office but it's still difficult to be excited about Biden. I keep feeling he will completely fuck this up.
what a shit show the Presidentcy and all of politics left middle and center are right now.
Politics are a complete and utter shit show right now.

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Reply #141 posted 04/15/20 3:49am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

2elijah said:
DiminutiveRocker said: How about that? That would be a big threat to trump.

If the staunch Bernie followers go along with it

Bernie isn't even a democrat, why should anyone listen to who he says they should vote for?

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Reply #142 posted 04/15/20 3:49am

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KIDDING

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Reply #143 posted 04/15/20 4:07am

poppys	double house arrest 4 U jaawwnn "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all"
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Reply #144 posted 04/15/20 5:28am

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v10letblues said:

I know it's just about getting Trump out of office but it's still difficult to be excited about Biden. I keep feeling he will completely fuck this up.
what a shit show the Presidentcy and all of politics left middle and center are right now.
Politics are a complete and utter shit show right now.

That's why it's so important to pick a strong VP. It may start getting people excited for him.

I'm also getting a little worried that they may want to postpone the election in Nov.

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Reply #145 posted 04/15/20 7:22am

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PennyPurple said:

v10letblues said:

I know it's just about getting Trump out of office but it's still difficult to be excited about Biden. I keep feeling he will completely fuck this up.
what a shit show the Presidentcy and all of politics left middle and center are right now.
Politics are a complete and utter shit show right now.

That's why it's so important to pick a strong VP. It may start getting people excited for him.

I'm also getting a little worried that they may want to postpone the election in Nov.

traditional "wisdom" is that the VP has very little benefit to the candidate...but as bad as pejoe is ... babbling fool... known child predator (its on video).., but again some are saying he will be replaced during the convention... and keep in mind that a 2nd wave of covid is likely... that could impact the election dates...

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Reply #146 posted 04/15/20 7:32am

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PennyPurple said:

v10letblues said:

I know it's just about getting Trump out of office but it's still difficult to be excited about Biden. I keep feeling he will completely fuck this up.
what a shit show the Presidentcy and all of politics left middle and center are right now.
Politics are a complete and utter shit show right now.

That's why it's so important to pick a strong VP. It may start getting people excited for him.

I'm also getting a little worried that they may want to postpone the election in Nov.

Sick as the idea is, I wouldn't put it past Trump to "re-open" the country and prompt a second covid wave in order to move the election.

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Reply #147 posted 04/15/20 7:35am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

PennyPurple said:

That's why it's so important to pick a strong VP. It may start getting people excited for him.

I'm also getting a little worried that they may want to postpone the election in Nov.

Sick as the idea is, I wouldn't put it past Trump to "re-open" the country and prompt a second covid wave in order to move the election.

that is just not even a remote possibility... early on (when everyone was saying it was more like a flu) he may have suggested letting it run its course... but once the WHO and government of China were forced to stop coveting it all up... that was changed.

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Reply #148 posted 04/15/20 10:20am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Sick as the idea is, I wouldn't put it past Trump to "re-open" the country and prompt a second covid wave in order to move the election.

that is just not even a remote possibility... early on (when everyone was saying it was more like a flu) he may have suggested letting it run its course... but once the WHO and government of China were forced to stop coveting it all up... that was changed.

early on?

he suggested letting it wash over the country march 14. nyc was already starting lock down at that point. thats not early on, its nowhere near early on.

also, not everyone thought it was "more like a flu" at that point, nor at any point has everyone unanimously thought that.

spin spin spin, only!

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Reply #149 posted 04/15/20 10:44am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

that is just not even a remote possibility... early on (when everyone was saying it was more like a flu) he may have suggested letting it run its course... but once the WHO and government of China were forced to stop coveting it all up... that was changed.

early on?

he suggested letting it wash over the country march 14. nyc was already starting to lock down at that point. thats not early on.

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Nope, March 14 is NOT early. My company sent us to work from home on March 13th.

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