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OnlyNDaUsa

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University of Virginia at the Multicultural Student Center: "too many white People" Video

So hoax or real? As is often the case when something like this happens part of me wonders if it is not what it seems. Could this be a conservative operative sent there to make some people look bad?

University of Virginia at the Multicultural Student Center a woman gets up and says that there are too many white people... and suggest that white people can go somewhere else... And I get that. I really do.. but if she is an actual student and not a plant.. should she face discipline?




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Reply #1 posted 02/13/20 8:04am

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She should not face discipline. Her friends might want to have a word with her about how this method of attack ultimately doesn't win friends when fighting racism but give her a pass, she has to live with this shit all day, every day.


At least that's how I see it, open to correction.

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Reply #2 posted 02/13/20 8:31am

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jaawwnn said:

She should not face discipline. Her friends might want to have a word with her about how this method of attack ultimately doesn't win friends when fighting racism but give her a pass, she has to live with this shit all day, every day.


At least that's how I see it, open to correction.

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It is not a matter of correction... I am kind of with you..at least she shoud not be punished or have some permanent sanction.

And it would not be fair to play the "What if it was the other way around..." game. (then yes that student would need to disciplined) It is just not the same in this case.

I do think she should have a talk with admin and have some minor consequence but nothing permanent.... she dose need to know that this is not okay.

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Reply #3 posted 02/13/20 8:37am

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What the powers that be at the school must not do, must NEVER do... is create any space where one's race or ethnic background is used as a test to allow or prohibit entry.

This would include any student clubs or organizations...


This place was a "Multicultural Student Center" and like it or not white people are just as cultural as any other group. (there is often a lie that they are cultural neutral but that is bigotry and blindness)


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Reply #4 posted 02/13/20 9:15am

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I don't know if she should face discipline.

But I found that very disturbing. This is the wrong path to go down.

What if there's an Asian student center and someone says, "there's too many blacks here." How is that going to go down?

Or a hispanic student center etc...

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Reply #5 posted 02/13/20 9:35am

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noobman said:

I don't know if she should face discipline.

But I found that very disturbing. This is the wrong path to go down.

What if there's an Asian student center and someone says, "there's too many blacks here." How is that going to go down?

Or a hispanic student center etc...

I am not sure any of those centers should be allowed to exist.

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Reply #6 posted 02/13/20 9:36am

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US universities are becoming liberal cesspools that are brainwashing young people. I woudl send my kid to a trade or technical school now. A 4 year degree is damn near obsolete for most of the new jobs out there anyway.

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Reply #7 posted 02/13/20 9:40am

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AMERICA1ST said:

US universities are becoming liberal cesspools that are brainwashing young people. I woudl send my kid to a trade or technical school now. A 4 year degree is damn near obsolete for most of the new jobs out there anyway.

becoming?

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Reply #8 posted 02/13/20 9:49am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

noobman said:

I don't know if she should face discipline.

But I found that very disturbing. This is the wrong path to go down.

What if there's an Asian student center and someone says, "there's too many blacks here." How is that going to go down?

Or a hispanic student center etc...

I am not sure any of those centers should be allowed to exist.

I don't see an issue if it's a center that deals with events or affairs related to students of a particular group, as long as anyone who wishes to is allowed to participate.It's no different from a restaurant serving a particular ethnicity of food... or some regional music festival... Anyone can enter. That's how these student centers were when I was going to school. Anyone could go participate. It wasn't supposed to segregate anyone.


But to say that if you're not of the group you can't be there or we don't want you there is wrong.

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Reply #9 posted 02/13/20 9:55am

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noobman said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am not sure any of those centers should be allowed to exist.

I don't see an issue if it's a center that deals with events or affairs related to students of a particular group, as long as anyone who wishes to is allowed to participate.It's no different from a restaurant serving a particular ethnicity of food... or some regional music festival... Anyone can enter. That's how these student centers were when I was going to school. Anyone could go participate. It wasn't supposed to segregate anyone.


But to say that if you're not of the group you can't be there or we don't want you there is wrong.

I think the name alone is enough to make it problematic... Same with the idea of "safe space" or a "Free Speech Zone." All places should be safe.

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Reply #10 posted 02/13/20 9:56am

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It's a bit more complicated than that guys, have you not read the stories of lecturers losing their jobs because students demanded it. Do you think that that lecturer was brainwashing students to do that Usually if you're in university you're already pretty privileged, and pretty young as well and still working out how to discuss these things with language you've only just been introduced to.

IMHO there's a huge problem with how it gets amplified nation or worldwide and becomes so much bigger than it should. The insane stuff that happened with I was in college thankfully stayed as college politics.

Asking a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds to sort out the genuine problems with how universities are run is a recipe for disaster.

While ideally all zones would be safe clearly they are not so as a band-aid I see no problem with safe space zones. Same thing as trigger warnings on books, they hurt no one and 99% of people won't need to use them.

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Reply #11 posted 02/13/20 10:14am

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You will get over the fake outrage Only.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #12 posted 02/13/20 10:27am

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2freaky4church1 said:

You will get over the fake outrage Only.

no outrage... are you going to add to this or are you just here to disrupt? what is that called again? (and note how he is doing the same kind of thing on the Jussie Smollett topic. )

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Reply #13 posted 02/13/20 12:02pm

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noobman said:

But to say that if you're not of the group you can't be there or we don't want you there is wrong.

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Reply #14 posted 02/13/20 2:52pm

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I think it's hilariously ironic that black college students (and let's be honest, what group of people are more privileged than COLLEGE STUDENTS regardless of race) are pushing all sorts of re-segregation.

My favorite comment on that video lol

Really glad that my parents, aunts and uncles were beaten during a civil rights march for this...."

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Reply #15 posted 02/13/20 7:17pm

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I think it's hilariously ironic that black college students (and let's be honest, what group of people are more privileged than COLLEGE STUDENTS regardless of race) are pushing all sorts of re-segregation.

My favorite comment on that video lol

Really glad that my parents, aunts and uncles were beaten during a civil rights march for this...."

[Edited 2/13/20 14:52pm]

Segregation hasn't exactly disappeared. When it comes to segregated neighborhoods and schools, my hometown NYC(and the surrounding areas such as Long Island) has always been near the top of the list. Not as 'progressive' here as you might think.

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Reply #16 posted 02/13/20 8:10pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

guitarslinger44 said:

I think it's hilariously ironic that black college students (and let's be honest, what group of people are more privileged than COLLEGE STUDENTS regardless of race) are pushing all sorts of re-segregation.

My favorite comment on that video lol

Really glad that my parents, aunts and uncles were beaten during a civil rights march for this...."

[Edited 2/13/20 14:52pm]

Segregation hasn't exactly disappeared. When it comes to segregated neighborhoods and schools, my hometown NYC(and the surrounding areas such as Long Island) has always been near the top of the list. Not as 'progressive' here as you might think.

Very true. Especially the school system.

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Reply #17 posted 02/14/20 8:33am

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Segregation hasn't exactly disappeared. When it comes to segregated neighborhoods and schools, my hometown NYC(and the surrounding areas such as Long Island) has always been near the top of the list. Not as 'progressive' here as you might think.

Very true. Especially the school system.

but that is not the fault of white people or racism.

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Reply #18 posted 02/14/20 11:00am

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Segregation hasn't exactly disappeared. When it comes to segregated neighborhoods and schools, my hometown NYC(and the surrounding areas such as Long Island) has always been near the top of the list. Not as 'progressive' here as you might think.

Very true. Especially the school system.

This excellent report by Newsday goes into more detail....the causes goes back decades.

https://projects.newsday.com/long-island/segregation-real-estate-history/#nd-promo

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Reply #19 posted 02/14/20 11:32am

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uPtoWnNY said:



jjhunsecker said:




uPtoWnNY said:




Segregation hasn't exactly disappeared. When it comes to segregated neighborhoods and schools, my hometown NYC(and the surrounding areas such as Long Island) has always been near the top of the list. Not as 'progressive' here as you might think.




Very true. Especially the school system.




This excellent report by Newsday goes into more detail....the causes goes back decades.



https://projects.newsday.com/long-island/segregation-real-estate-history/#nd-promo



Very interesting. When I was younger, my parents put me into Catholic school to avoid all of these issues. When it was time for High School, my mother insisted that I go to a majority White High School, as she knew that they would have better teachers and better Facilities, which was true.

(One side effect of going to such a school is that- despite what some on here want to believe- is that I personally am very comfortable around White people, and have lasting friendships from those days)
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Reply #20 posted 02/15/20 6:28am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

So hoax or real? As is often the case when something like this happens part of me wonders if it is not what it seems. Could this be a conservative operative sent there to make some people look bad?

University of Virginia at the Multicultural Student Center a woman gets up and says that there are too many white people... and suggest that white people can go somewhere else... And I get that. I really do.. but if she is an actual student and not a plant.. should she face discipline?




https://www.youtube.com/w...Xhl4QYQOuc


Not a hoax. The woman, Brittney Ezinne Ogbonna, was a student who was on an internship at the University of Virginia. She's an "aspiring healthcare professional and actress" who had a GoFundMe page at one point to help her study acting in London.

Just imagine, her working in healthcare .... eek

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Reply #21 posted 02/15/20 6:34am

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Great video discussing this incident, from Australia no less!

And notice one of the headlines on the scrolling banner at the bottom of the video. wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPy0DBdcNU8&t=66s


"What do POC on the University of Virginia need to be safe from?" lol

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Reply #22 posted 02/15/20 6:48am

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Pokeno4Money said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

So hoax or real? As is often the case when something like this happens part of me wonders if it is not what it seems. Could this be a conservative operative sent there to make some people look bad?

University of Virginia at the Multicultural Student Center a woman gets up and says that there are too many white people... and suggest that white people can go somewhere else... And I get that. I really do.. but if she is an actual student and not a plant.. should she face discipline?




https://www.youtube.com/w...Xhl4QYQOuc


Not a hoax. The woman, Brittney Ezinne Ogbonna, was a student who was on an internship at the University of Virginia. She's an "aspiring healthcare professional and actress" who had a GoFundMe page at one point to help her study acting in London.

Just imagine, her working in healthcare .... eek

well hopefully she will be giving some counseling and take a class or something of not being a bigot. I can kind of see her point but there is no room for that kind of race based hate.

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Reply #23 posted 02/15/20 7:06am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

well hopefully she will be giving some counseling and take a class or something of not being a bigot. I can kind of see her point but there is no room for that kind of race based hate.


I think we could have a good discussion about the merits and detriments of clubs and whatnot that are for specific races, ethnicities, etc. For instance I have no issue with clubs that allow only African Americans, or only Irish, or only Italian, or only Jewish, or only Asian etc. There's nothing wrong with embracing your heritage, in fact it's a good thing.

However in this instance, it was a "multicultural" center .... not a "POC" center. The woman had no right to try and pursuade Caucasians to leave. And to claim their presence made POC feel "uncomfortable" is hysterical. lol

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Reply #24 posted 02/15/20 7:15am

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Pokeno4Money said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

well hopefully she will be giving some counseling and take a class or something of not being a bigot. I can kind of see her point but there is no room for that kind of race based hate.


I think we could have a good discussion about the merits and detriments of clubs and whatnot that are for specific races, ethnicities, etc. For instance I have no issue with clubs that allow only African Americans, or only Irish, or only Italian, or only Jewish, or only Asian etc. There's nothing wrong with embracing your heritage, in fact it's a good thing.

However in this instance, it was a "multicultural" center .... not a "POC" center. The woman had no right to try and pursuade Caucasians to leave. And to claim their presence made POC feel "uncomfortable" is hysterical. lol

I do not agree that any of these groups should be able to exculed anyone... unless ANY group can do the same. And I am pretty sure a WHASP only club would not fly.

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Reply #25 posted 02/15/20 8:19am

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Pokeno4Money said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

well hopefully she will be giving some counseling and take a class or something of not being a bigot. I can kind of see her point but there is no room for that kind of race based hate.


I think we could have a good discussion about the merits and detriments of clubs and whatnot that are for specific races, ethnicities, etc. For instance I have no issue with clubs that allow only African Americans, or only Irish, or only Italian, or only Jewish, or only Asian etc. There's nothing wrong with embracing your heritage, in fact it's a good thing.

However in this instance, it was a "multicultural" center .... not a "POC" center. The woman had no right to try and pursuade Caucasians to leave. And to claim their presence made POC feel "uncomfortable" is hysterical. lol

I agree with this....but why do some fools always accuse black americans of "separating themselves" for doing what other groups have done for decades. Makes no sense.

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Reply #26 posted 02/15/20 9:30am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Pokeno4Money said:


I think we could have a good discussion about the merits and detriments of clubs and whatnot that are for specific races, ethnicities, etc. For instance I have no issue with clubs that allow only African Americans, or only Irish, or only Italian, or only Jewish, or only Asian etc. There's nothing wrong with embracing your heritage, in fact it's a good thing.

However in this instance, it was a "multicultural" center .... not a "POC" center. The woman had no right to try and pursuade Caucasians to leave. And to claim their presence made POC feel "uncomfortable" is hysterical. lol

I agree with this....but why do some fools always accuse black americans of "separating themselves" for doing what other groups have done for decades. Makes no sense.

so which is it? is it okay for a whites only club or not? And you know it is a fallacy to excuse some conduct with past examples of when others did something similar. The "but they did it too..." is no defence.

But again I am synaptic... but if you allow one group to exculed others then any group can do the same.

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uPtoWnNY said:

Pokeno4Money said:


I think we could have a good discussion about the merits and detriments of clubs and whatnot that are for specific races, ethnicities, etc. For instance I have no issue with clubs that allow only African Americans, or only Irish, or only Italian, or only Jewish, or only Asian etc. There's nothing wrong with embracing your heritage, in fact it's a good thing.

However in this instance, it was a "multicultural" center .... not a "POC" center. The woman had no right to try and pursuade Caucasians to leave. And to claim their presence made POC feel "uncomfortable" is hysterical. lol

I agree with this....but why do some fools always accuse black americans of "separating themselves" for doing what other groups have done for decades. Makes no sense.

Because one of the techniques used- particularly by those on the Right- in order to downplay the effects of White racism, is to try to find and highlight examples of "bigotry", by non-Whites, especially Black people. So they can say "See, Black people are just as racist as people try claim Whites are". It's a classic example of "whatabout-ism"

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:

I agree with this....but why do some fools always accuse black americans of "separating themselves" for doing what other groups have done for decades. Makes no sense.

Because one of the techniques used- particularly by those on the Right- in order to downplay the effects of White racism, is to try to find and highlight examples of "bigotry", by non-Whites, especially Black people. So they can say "See, Black people are just as racist as people try claim Whites are". It's a classic example of "whatabout-ism"

wow you made that up... every word. And NO it is not an example of what-about ism. Quite the opposite. I have never ever defended any such conduct. (I am not a democrat and not racist)

My point is the opposite of that as I am saying if this is okay with you but if it was a campus run center and some white guy said "there are too many POCs in here...." would you be? I think not.

I say I again: I can understand her thought process on this... I can see her point... and I sympathise... but still her actions are not okay.

jjhunsecker do you agree she was out of line? yes or no

Do you think there is room for "(identifier) only clubs" on campus? Yes or No?





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Reply #29 posted 02/15/20 10:11am

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uPtoWnNY said:

I agree with this....but why do some fools always accuse black americans of "separating themselves" for doing what other groups have done for decades. Makes no sense.


You're right, it doesn't make any sense to me either.

But then, it didn't make sense to me that Boy Scouts was changed so that girls were allowed to join.

Not everyone should be allowed to be included in everything, as long as like Only said there's opportunities for everyone to be included in something.

The boys had Boy Scouts and the girls had Girl Scouts, so what was the problem?

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