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Amber Heard on Johnny Depp: Believe all women about domestic abuse

EXCLUSIVE: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' LISTEN as Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp and pelting him with pots, pans and vases in explosive audio confession

Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp and pelting him with pots, pans and vases in an explosive audio confession obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com.



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Reply #1 posted 02/11/20 7:10pm

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EXCLUSIVE: 'See how many people believe you.' Listen as Amber Heard scoffs at Johnny Depp for claiming he's a domestic violence victim, suggesting court would take her side because she's a slender woman in explosive audio


Amber Heard ridicules Johnny Depp for claiming he is a victim of domestic violence in an explosive tape recording obtained by DailyMail.com - telling the Pirates of the Caribbean actor: 'See how many people believe you.'


https://www.dailymail.co....ictim.html

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Reply #2 posted 02/11/20 7:17pm

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This is why we have due process.

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Reply #3 posted 02/11/20 8:03pm

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Really hard to read this and remain openminded...

It seems that she pushed and goaded him until he snapped...

I know women like this...They just dont know when to leave it alone and will go hell for leather until she boils blood .

This may not be the case here...but ............

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Reply #4 posted 02/12/20 5:39am

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Sadly she's right in saying most people automatically assume the male is the aggressor and the woman is the victim. It's an ancient stereotype, despite the fact you have smaller guys like Prince and Tom Cruise who could have probably gotten their ass kicked by the likes of Gal Gadot or Ronda Rousey or a whole bunch of other women.

And if guys get shit thrown at them or attacked by women, what's the guy to do? Most wouldn't fight back, out of principle or just fear of not being believed that they were the victim.

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Reply #5 posted 02/12/20 5:40am

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Bitches be trippin' 😂

But seriously though, they were just as guilty as each other. But what's done is done.
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Reply #6 posted 02/12/20 5:42am

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You know why he was attracted to her though, right?

Crazy in the head, crazy in the bed. lol

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Reply #7 posted 02/12/20 5:48am

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If you listen to the tapes (instead of reading the articles) it's clear that she was physically violent. She admits she hit him. She says he hit her too, he says he only pushed her back. She doesn't dispute this. She goes on to complain that everytime they fight he leaves. He says this is to avoid physical fights. She wants the physical fights. And of course there is the taunting that no one will believe him.

The thing she is maddest about is that he avoids physical confrontation by leaving. The thing he is most upset about is the physical confrontations itself. The best thing a man can do in such a situation is leave. Or go to jail. (Smart move, Johnny!!)

The "fighting" was on both of them. The physical fighting is clearly on her, not to mention threats, slander and all around evil bitchery.

Justice for Johnny. Believe all evidence.





[Edited 2/12/20 5:51am]

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Reply #9 posted 02/12/20 6:26am

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Lovejunky said:

Really hard to read this and remain openminded...

It seems that she pushed and goaded him until he snapped...

I know women like this...They just dont know when to leave it alone and will go hell for leather until she boils blood .

This may not be the case here...but ............

I remember when I was about 18 waiting for a bus, and watching a little bitty woman, crack her man in the back of his head with her fists. He was much bigger than her, and walking away from her. But she stayed right on him and would not hit him anywhere else but in that spot at the base of his skull. You could hear the hits like firecrackers.
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I watched/followed them until the cops came. Because I knew she would try to say he was the abuser to get him locked up.

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Reply #10 posted 02/12/20 8:30am

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She's confessed to domestic abuse. She should be charged and imprisoned.

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Reply #11 posted 02/12/20 9:07am

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She threw a vodka bottle at him, damn near severing his finger. He had to have surgery to keep it on his hand. It's in the court papers. She's out of control.

What goes unsaid is that there is a segment of men in the world who are victims of domestic abuse. People dismiss it because men are supposed to be bigger, stronger, faster, better, whatever. But there are plenty of women who go beyond just being a bit of a nag to being a physical threat to their male counterparts. Amber Heard is one of those women. She needs to answer and pay for her violence toward another human being.

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Reply #12 posted 02/12/20 11:10am

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djThunderfunk said:

If you listen to the tapes (instead of reading the articles) it's clear that she was physically violent. She admits she hit him. She says he hit her too, he says he only pushed her back. She doesn't dispute this. She goes on to complain that everytime they fight he leaves. He says this is to avoid physical fights. She wants the physical fights. And of course there is the taunting that no one will believe him.

The thing she is maddest about is that he avoids physical confrontation by leaving. The thing he is most upset about is the physical confrontations itself. The best thing a man can do in such a situation is leave. Or go to jail. (Smart move, Johnny!!)

The "fighting" was on both of them. The physical fighting is clearly on her, not to mention threats, slander and all around evil bitchery.

Justice for Johnny. Believe all evidence.





[Edited 2/12/20 5:51am]


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Anyone who was following this saw this coming. Amber Heard needs a shrink, and if there was any justice or parity in this situation, she would lose roles and that makeup endorsement she has, but she won't. Even if she did, I'm sure twitter idiots would cry "sexism" and she'd get them all back.

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Reply #13 posted 02/12/20 11:55am

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djThunderfunk said:

If you listen to the tapes (instead of reading the articles) it's clear that she was physically violent. She admits she hit him. She says he hit her too, he says he only pushed her back. She doesn't dispute this. She goes on to complain that everytime they fight he leaves. He says this is to avoid physical fights. She wants the physical fights. And of course there is the taunting that no one will believe him.

The thing she is maddest about is that he avoids physical confrontation by leaving. The thing he is most upset about is the physical confrontations itself. The best thing a man can do in such a situation is leave. Or go to jail. (Smart move, Johnny!!)

The "fighting" was on both of them. The physical fighting is clearly on her, not to mention threats, slander and all around evil bitchery.

Justice for Johnny. Believe all evidence.





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See, that's bullshit....I hate this unwritten code that a man can't defend himself from an unprovoked attack from a woman. Aren't we supposed to be equal under the law?

I look at it like this...if you're man enough to lay your hands on someone, then take your ass-whipping like a man, and be quiet about it.

Reminds me of what happened on the NYC subway several years ago, when this dude defended himdself from some rachet hoodrat, then her friends jumped in. He spent four days in jail because those thugettes played the "damsel in distress" card. Thankfully, he was let go and those animals were charged once the truth came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTIAuj3pHgk

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Reply #14 posted 02/12/20 12:02pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Lovejunky said:

Really hard to read this and remain openminded...

It seems that she pushed and goaded him until he snapped...

I know women like this...They just dont know when to leave it alone and will go hell for leather until she boils blood .

This may not be the case here...but ............

I remember when I was about 18 waiting for a bus, and watching a little bitty woman, crack her man in the back of his head with her fists. He was much bigger than her, and walking away from her. But she stayed right on him and would not hit him anywhere else but in that spot at the base of his skull. You could hear the hits like firecrackers.
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I watched/followed them until the cops came. Because I knew she would try to say he was the abuser to get him locked up.


So - did she???

I am fine with women abusers getting arrested/charged. But let's not even pretend for a moment that it is anywhere near equal. Men are far more physically abusive to women than the other way around.

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uPtoWnNY said:

djThunderfunk said:

If you listen to the tapes (instead of reading the articles) it's clear that she was physically violent. She admits she hit him. She says he hit her too, he says he only pushed her back. She doesn't dispute this. She goes on to complain that everytime they fight he leaves. He says this is to avoid physical fights. She wants the physical fights. And of course there is the taunting that no one will believe him.

The thing she is maddest about is that he avoids physical confrontation by leaving. The thing he is most upset about is the physical confrontations itself. The best thing a man can do in such a situation is leave. Or go to jail. (Smart move, Johnny!!)

The "fighting" was on both of them. The physical fighting is clearly on her, not to mention threats, slander and all around evil bitchery.

Justice for Johnny. Believe all evidence.





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See, that's bullshit....I hate this unwritten code that a man can't defend himself from an unprovoked attack from a woman. Aren't we supposed to be equal under the law?

I look at it like this...if you're man enough to lay your hands on someone, then take your ass-whipping like a man, and be quiet about it.

Reminds me of what happened on the NYC subway several years ago, when this dude defended himdself from some rachet hoodrat, then her friends jumped in. He spent four days in jail because those thugettes played the "damsel in distress" card. Thankfully, he was let go and those animals were charged once the truth came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTIAuj3pHgk


I agree with this 100%.

Chris Rock did a bit about dudes always know there's a line they don't cross with a guy bigger than them if they don't want to get their asses kicked, and how there are a lot of women that don't have that.

Men sell each other out responding to the damsel in distress syndrome and always assuming that the woman is innocent, and I have to believe that those are men who treat all women like they need to be saved rather than seeing someone as they are.

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Reply #16 posted 02/12/20 6:52pm

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This reminds me of a thread I started many years ago that got a LOT of people speaking their mind about the subject of physically abusive women and whether a man has a right to fight back.

Y'all remember this from my thread? lol


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Reply #17 posted 02/12/20 7:15pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

And if guys get shit thrown at them or attacked by women, what's the guy to do?


Leave.

A man doesn't hit a woman. And it's clear from this recording that he did more than "push" her in return.


And I was believing his side of the story until I listened to this.

No doubt she's troubled (as I've long believed he is) and it sounds like she would "start it". But I don't care. Beating on a woman is completely unacceptable (the sole exception being if your life is in danger and you have literally no escape).

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Reply #18 posted 02/12/20 7:27pm

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Ace said:

Pokeno4Money said:

And if guys get shit thrown at them or attacked by women, what's the guy to do?


Leave.

A man doesn't hit a woman. And it's clear from this recording that he did more than "push" her in return.


And I was believing his side of the story until I listened to this.

No doubt she's troubled (as I've long believed he is) and it sounds like she would "start it". But I don't care. Beating on a woman is completely unacceptable (the sole exception being if your life is in danger and you have literally no escape).


There is nothing on these tapes that suggests he is guilty of "beating on" her. Nor is it clear "that he did more than push her in return".

Sounds like when she would get violent, he would leave. Just as you suggest he should. That is exactly what she is complaining about the most. When she became abusive he would leave.

Strange how you believed him until you heard the tapes while much of the world believed her until they heard the tapes. Did you listen to the same thing? If so, all of it or just a clip?


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Reply #19 posted 02/12/20 8:17pm

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djThunderfunk said:

Ace said:


Leave.

A man doesn't hit a woman. And it's clear from this recording that he did more than "push" her in return.


And I was believing his side of the story until I listened to this.

No doubt she's troubled (as I've long believed he is) and it sounds like she would "start it". But I don't care. Beating on a woman is completely unacceptable (the sole exception being if your life is in danger and you have literally no escape).


There is nothing on these tapes that suggests he is guilty of "beating on" her. Nor is it clear "that he did more than push her in return".

Sounds like when she would get violent, he would leave. Just as you suggest he should. That is exactly what she is complaining about the most. When she became abusive he would leave.

Strange how you believed him until you heard the tapes while much of the world believed her until they heard the tapes. Did you listen to the same thing? If so, all of it or just a clip?



'You know what it would be? It would be released through documented people, coming on the record, and, having the protection to do so, that haven't had yet.'


'It would be eyewitness statements. It would be evidence. Tons of it. And it would be through years.'


Heard goes on to ridicule Depp's doubts over the facial injuries she turned up with at court when she applied for the restraining order on May 27, 2016.


She also claims to have a trove of incriminating texts, paraphrasing a message to her publicist Jodi Gottlieb ahead of an appearance on The Late Late Show with James Corden: 'I think, I've had accident, um, I think I may have, I busted my nose and two black eyes tomorrow'.


She tells Depp: 'No one is going to believe that one of the two alternatives, that I'm in a fight club or I've been getting, going through hair and makeup. . .through all these years where I have corroborating text messages between people that match those dates of those time stamped validated photos.'


Heard warns Depp that her lawyers are urging her to make a formal police statement, saying that a criminal prosecutor told her it was 'most solid evidence, case of domestic violence case we've ever seen'.


She declined to do so, however, because she did not want to hurt Depp further, Heard says, complaining that their public spat has already led to her receiving death threats.


https://www.dailymail.co....ictim.html

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Trying to 'body' shame Johnny Depp.

Deposition by his employee:


https://www.ibtimes.com/t...er-2920459


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Reply #21 posted 02/12/20 9:17pm

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luv4u said:

Trying to 'body' shame Johnny Depp.

Deposition by his employee:


https://www.ibtimes.com/t...er-2920459


Does it sound like Amber Heard has a severe anger-management problem and that she was physically and verbally abusive towards Johnny Depp?


Yes and yes.


Should he ever have struck her in return?


No.


What should he have done?

Leave. Every time. And then for good.

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Reply #22 posted 02/12/20 10:03pm

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Ace said:

Pokeno4Money said:

And if guys get shit thrown at them or attacked by women, what's the guy to do?


Leave.

A man doesn't hit a woman. And it's clear from this recording that he did more than "push" her in return.


And I was believing his side of the story until I listened to this.

No doubt she's troubled (as I've long believed he is) and it sounds like she would "start it". But I don't care. Beating on a woman is completely unacceptable (the sole exception being if your life is in danger and you have literally no escape).


I agree with you in theory about leaving.

However, having lived it myself, I can say with certainty it's not always possible.

Let's say Johnny found himself cornered in a room or closet or something, and she was blocking him from leaving. Maybe she would repeatedly hit him in the face/head every time he tried, maybe with a pan or bat or something. It might be impossible to get away from her without swinging back at her.

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I've never hit a woman, nor have I ever put up with such a thing in my presence.

That said, I have to ask:

Which is it? Are men and women the same, equal in every way? Is it mysoginistic to point out physical advantages and disadvantages common with gender?

Or, is a man's physique different, allowing him an advantage in any physical altercation with a woman?

Joe Rogan argues that trans women should not be able to compete in sporting events with non-trans women without divulging their physical advantage, and he's accused of being trans-phobic for telling the obvious truth.

I dunno, seems like we need some consistency.

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Ace said:

What should he have done?

Leave. Every time. And then for good.


Have you ever seen the movie Mad Love with Drew Barrymore?


It is maddeningly difficult to leave for good the woman you love, especially your wife, when she is affectionate and loving and sweet and sexy the 90% of the time that she's not verbally and physically abusive.

It's only natural to hope she'll "get better", and to remember the good times more often than the bad.

Like the wedding vows go, "in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health".

With Amber maybe she's bipolar, maybe she's on the autism spectrum, maybe she has anxiety/depression issues, or maybe it's hormonal.


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Reply #25 posted 02/12/20 10:49pm

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Trying to 'body' shame Johnny Depp.

Deposition by his employee:


https://www.ibtimes.com/t...er-2920459



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Reply #26 posted 02/12/20 11:11pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Lovejunky said:

Really hard to read this and remain openminded...

It seems that she pushed and goaded him until he snapped...

I know women like this...They just dont know when to leave it alone and will go hell for leather until she boils blood .

This may not be the case here...but ............

I remember when I was about 18 waiting for a bus, and watching a little bitty woman, crack her man in the back of his head with her fists. He was much bigger than her, and walking away from her. But she stayed right on him and would not hit him anywhere else but in that spot at the base of his skull. You could hear the hits like firecrackers.
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I watched/followed them until the cops came. Because I knew she would try to say he was the abuser to get him locked up.




I'm really shocked to see you post this. Reason being, you're always posting false made up statistics from different websites that's pushing these false agenda's that boys and men rarely get domestically or sexually abused. But yet you know how hard it is for a man or boy to report abuse especially if it's at the hands of a female. I have a friend who is a government agent and know for the truth boys and males are victims moreso than the numbers say because we live in a society that promotes man bashing. That's why Johnny wanted to settle without all the public opinions in this and Amber herself even admitted to nobody will ever believe a man can be a victim of domestic abuse. So again I'm shocked at your post because of the past posts of you posting false statistics. And not only you but others that post statistics which is large numerical data collected for science research or to encourage an ideal for the purpose of a movement. So with that being said unless its for science health reasons, statistics are all false.

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Reply #27 posted 02/12/20 11:35pm

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Ace said:

luv4u said:

Trying to 'body' shame Johnny Depp.

Deposition by his employee:


https://www.ibtimes.com/t...er-2920459


Does it sound like Amber Heard has a severe anger-management problem and that she was physically and verbally abusive towards Johnny Depp?


Yes and yes.


Should he ever have struck her in return?


No.


What should he have done?

Leave. Every time. And then for good.



Ace just to help you out, all of Amber Heard claims of domestic violence have so far be proven false, including all the witnesses so lied about having and the text messages. It's all online for the public to see and Amber herself admits over the phone she did this so Johnny wouldn't kick her and her friends out of his penthouse. Her father even spoke to Johnny about the lawyer made her do all of this lying for money and to not be homeless.


Next Amber is a repeated abuser as she was arrested in 2009 for abusing her then girlfriend Tasya Van Ree. It's also been reported that Amber have been this violent in her other relationships. So that's why it's hard for people to take your side with never hit a woman.


Also when we all say never hit a woman, that should be changed to never hit anyone. Whether we meant good or not, that slogan have given freedom to females to be abusive towards everyoneone including police officers or other authority figures. Right now we have a generation of females that think it's okay to be men abusers. What this have brought is the new wave of mothers that now tells her little son "If she want to act like a man, treat her like a man" or "If I find out you letting some girl beat on you, I'm going to whoop her ass and then your ass next." The generation of boys and males behind me 28 and younger are trained that they are equal to woman and woman is equal to man. So don't be surprised in the raise of domestic abuse/murders in the coming years.


With that being said Amber is not the victim in this, which is admitted by her. She even doesn't care that Johnny son is being bullied at school about this. Which is why this is so horrible and the unfortunate thing is the majority of females are like this (not all females) and this why mothers fear for their sons in this society especially mothers with dark complexion sons.

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Reply #28 posted 02/13/20 12:36am

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liljojo said:

you know how hard it is for a man or boy to report abuse especially if it's at the hands of a female.


I'm going to bring up a subject that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet. It's a well known fact that males are generally reluctant to report physical or sexual abuse at the hands of females because it calls into question their "masculinity".

Just like few males report women grabbing their ass or junk because it's a "macho" thing to brush it off, few males want to admit they are getting beat up by a woman for the same "macho" reason. When they do report it, they are often questioned as to why they don't "handle it themself" or why they don't just "take it like a man". Especially when the woman appears to be smaller and physically weaker than the man.


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Reply #29 posted 02/13/20 1:44am

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djThunderfunk said:

I've never hit a woman, nor have I ever put up with such a thing in my presence.

That said, I have to ask:

Which is it? Are men and women the same, equal in every way? Is it mysoginistic to point out physical advantages and disadvantages common with gender?

Or, is a man's physique different, allowing him an advantage in any physical altercation with a woman?

Joe Rogan argues that trans women should not be able to compete in sporting events with non-trans women without divulging their physical advantage, and he's accused of being trans-phobic for telling the obvious truth.

I dunno, seems like we need some consistency.



Not every issue is so black and white that you can apply consistency across the board. Men and women are clearly not equals (for the most part) when it comes to physical characteristics. Generally speaking, men are much stronger. Like, if I was to hit my husband I doubt he'd feel it. He'd probably think a fly had landed on him. In fact, I have hit him in a joking way. And he just laughed at me. I'd need to shoot him if I wanted to hurt him. However, if he were to ever hit me, there's a good chance he'd kill me with one blow. He's 6'4" and built like Superman. I'm 5'2" and built like a child. We're clearly not equals.

So no, it's not misogynistic to point out the differences between men and women. And men should never, even if provoked, hit a woman.
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