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Reply #30 posted 01/21/20 5:59pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

joe and hunter and the leaker are MUST calls... the all have evidence that goes directed to the questions... joe and hunter have to be drilled on how hunter got the job and why joe extorted them to fire the person looking into the apparent corruption...

the leaker has to be called as there is no actual direct evidence to support any of the claims in #1...

#2 is total garbage as all they did was wage a defence against political persecution and GASP appeal to the courts!


Joe and Hunter have nothing to do with what Trump is accused of doing. Trump brought them into the mix as a distraction.

hogwash... it is almost everything to do with it. Why did joe insist that guy who was investigating the company his son worked for? And hunter admitted he got the job because of his daddy...

oh and there is almost always quid pro quo with foreign aide... just like how joe did when he got the guy fired...

there is no real basis for any of this... they were gunning for him since he won... really before when hillary and barack made up the russian thing...

and the leaker too and weasel schiff too...

and you HAVE to agree that nancy making a big show with all thoes pens demonstrates it was all political...

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Reply #31 posted 01/21/20 6:24pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

luv4u said:


Joe and Hunter have nothing to do with what Trump is accused of doing. Trump brought them into the mix as a distraction.

hogwash... it is almost everything to do with it. Why did joe insist that guy who was investigating the company his son worked for? And hunter admitted he got the job because of his daddy...

oh and there is almost always quid pro quo with foreign aide... just like how joe did when he got the guy fired...

there is no real basis for any of this... they were gunning for him since he won... really before when hillary and barack made up the russian thing...

and the leaker too and weasel schiff too...

and you HAVE to agree that nancy making a big show with all thoes pens demonstrates it was all political...


Why? And have their life in jeopardy? Someone would hire someone to take them out. That is not good for someone who did the right thing to have their life threatened and/or live in fear coz they did the right thing. Dangerous times.

Schiff has nothing to do with what was going on with the funds being withheld from Ukraine etc etc.

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Reply #32 posted 01/21/20 6:28pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

luv4u said:


Joe and Hunter have nothing to do with what Trump is accused of doing. Trump brought them into the mix as a distraction.

hogwash... it is almost everything to do with it. Why did joe insist that guy who was investigating the company his son worked for? And hunter admitted he got the job because of his daddy...

oh and there is almost always quid pro quo with foreign aide... just like how joe did when he got the guy fired...

there is no real basis for any of this... they were gunning for him since he won... really before when hillary and barack made up the russian thing...

and the leaker too and weasel schiff too...

and you HAVE to agree that nancy making a big show with all thoes pens demonstrates it was all political...

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If you were to rate President T----, how strong is your support for him, say on a scale of 0 to 10, with 10 the highest rating and 0 not at all?

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Reply #33 posted 01/21/20 9:54pm

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luv4u said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

hogwash... it is almost everything to do with it. Why did joe insist that guy who was investigating the company his son worked for? And hunter admitted he got the job because of his daddy...

oh and there is almost always quid pro quo with foreign aide... just like how joe did when he got the guy fired...

there is no real basis for any of this... they were gunning for him since he won... really before when hillary and barack made up the russian thing...

and the leaker too and weasel schiff too...

and you HAVE to agree that nancy making a big show with all thoes pens demonstrates it was all political...


Why? And have their life in jeopardy? Someone would hire someone to take them out. That is not good for someone who did the right thing to have their life threatened and/or live in fear coz they did the right thing. Dangerous times.

Schiff has nothing to do with what was going on with the funds being withheld from Ukraine etc etc.

Kind of reminds you of the republicunts gunning for Clinton the minute he got into office and then finally getting him for lying about a blowjob, which, by the way, they learned about second hand from Linda Tripp. Payback seems to be a fucking bitch, doesnt it? Old turtle McConnell and Miss Lindsey aren't too happy with the shoe being on the other foot. Fuck all of them and LOCK HIM UP.

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"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #34 posted 01/22/20 3:30am

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luv4u said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

hogwash... it is almost everything to do with it. Why did joe insist that guy who was investigating the company his son worked for? And hunter admitted he got the job because of his daddy...

oh and there is almost always quid pro quo with foreign aide... just like how joe did when he got the guy fired...

there is no real basis for any of this... they were gunning for him since he won... really before when hillary and barack made up the russian thing...

and the leaker too and weasel schiff too...

and you HAVE to agree that nancy making a big show with all thoes pens demonstrates it was all political...


Why? And have their life in jeopardy? Someone would hire someone to take them out. That is not good for someone who did the right thing to have their life threatened and/or live in fear coz they did the right thing. Dangerous times.

Schiff has nothing to do with what was going on with the funds being withheld from Ukraine etc etc.

Yes. We have a right to face our accuser in court. His identity is known. If he felt it was so important YES. He can go into witness protection.


Schiff should be called too as a was in contact with the leaker.

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Reply #35 posted 01/22/20 3:31am

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13cjk13 said:

luv4u said:


Why? And have their life in jeopardy? Someone would hire someone to take them out. That is not good for someone who did the right thing to have their life threatened and/or live in fear coz they did the right thing. Dangerous times.

Schiff has nothing to do with what was going on with the funds being withheld from Ukraine etc etc.

Kind of reminds you of the republicunts gunning for Clinton the minute he got into office and then finally getting him for lying about a blowjob, which, by the way, they learned about second hand from Linda Tripp. Payback seems to be a fucking bitch, doesnt it? Old turtle McConnell and Miss Lindsey aren't too happy with the shoe being on the other foot. Fuck all of them and LOCK HIM UP.

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so you admit that in their minds this is payback? Good for you.

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Reply #36 posted 01/22/20 4:17am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



RodeoSchro said:


Susan Collins said she is likely to support calling witnesses. That's good but she's not the most reliable person, so let's hope she decides to definitely support calling witnesses.

Always remember this:

An honest person would not stop witnesses from testifying.





joe and hunter and the leaker are MUST calls... the all have evidence that goes directed to the questions... joe and hunter have to be drilled on how hunter got the job and why joe extorted them to fire the person looking into the apparent corruption...



the leaker has to be called as there is no actual direct evidence to support any of the claims in #1...

#2 is total garbage as all they did was wage a defence against political persecution and GASP appeal to the courts!


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Joe and Hunter Bidon are only MUST calls if trump is admitting the Articles of Impeachment are 100% correct. This means quid pro quo, that trump did withhold military aid unless Ukraine played ball and trump obstructed justice. Whether the Bidons actually did anything wrong is irrelevant. The person charged (trump) only had to be acting on the assumption that this was worth getting a foreign government to interfere in the next US election.
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But those you parrot have not thought this through.
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Reply #37 posted 01/22/20 4:50am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

luv4u said:


Joe and Hunter have nothing to do with what Trump is accused of doing. Trump brought them into the mix as a distraction.

hogwash... it is almost everything to do with it. Why did joe insist that guy who was investigating the company his son worked for? And hunter admitted he got the job because of his daddy...

oh and there is almost always quid pro quo with foreign aide... just like how joe did when he got the guy fired...

there is no real basis for any of this... they were gunning for him since he won... really before when hillary and barack made up the russian thing...

and the leaker too and weasel schiff too...

and you HAVE to agree that nancy making a big show with all thoes pens demonstrates it was all political...


Actually, Only, the Bidens have absolutely nothing to do with this. Remember Trump was stating that the phone call was all about corruption in Ukraine. He stated that it was not about the Bidens, but he was the one that brought the Bidens up. The only way they could be involved in this trial is if Trump admits that the only investigations he wanted Ukraine to do would be against the Bidens and Burisma, which would be him admitting that he engaged in quid pro quo. Trump won't do that.

This trial is not about the Bidens or what the Bidens did or did not do. This trial is about what Trump did in his role as president against a political rival. The Bidens would not have any evidence to present because they did not force Trump, encourage Trump, or tell Trump to act in any way. If Trump were so concerned about corruption in Ukraine, why did he give them the money in 2017 and 2018? It wasn't until 2019, when the 2020 election was being discussed much more frequently that Trump decided to say, "Oh yeah, we need investigations in Ukraine. We need to investigate Joe Biden and his son." That does NOT say that he was worried about corruption, that says, "Biden is my rival and I want him tainted when it comes to the election so he'll lose votes and I can win."

Trump had 2 years of a majority in the Republican Congress. He had 2 years to do everything he said he wanted to do, and he could have engaged in this investigation during those two years and he would not have been impeached. But the cloud of re-election was hanging over his head and he waits until a year before the election to start this.

As for them "gunning for him since he won", Trump has been engaged in coverups and engaging in shady activities since he won. Usually where there is smoke, there is fire. The majority of Trump's team had ties to Russia, all intelligence agencies were saying Russia interfered in our elections. Trump said during a debate, "Russia if you are listening...", and within hours of Trump saying that, Russia went hacking, so of course, that was suspect.

But let me ask you, what would Hunter and Joe Biden bring to this trial? Even if they were involved in some kind of quid pro quo in Ukraine, even if Hunter got the job because of who his dad was, (which you tend to forget Ivanka and Jared Kushner only got their jobs at the White House because of who her dad was), it does not change what Trump did. All it would do is give Trump a chance to say, "See? I was right," but it doesn't change the fact that Trump engaged in quid pro quo in order to hurt a political rival and attempt to get re-elected. It doesn't change the fact that Trump obstructed the House investigation, and continues to obstruct Congress.

By the way, some of those Republican Congressman that are now sitting as jurors against Trump, supported Biden withholding the funds from Ukraine to get that prosecutor out. Some of them, know that what Biden did was based on the evidence that Ukrainian prosecutor was not investigating corruption and that is why the US and other western allies wanted that Ukrainian prosecutor out. Some of them know that the conspiracy that Trump is peddling about the Bidens, is just that, a conspiracy and not based in fact.

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Reply #38 posted 01/22/20 9:27am

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luv4u said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

hogwash... it is almost everything to do with it. Why did joe insist that guy who was investigating the company his son worked for? And hunter admitted he got the job because of his daddy...

oh and there is almost always quid pro quo with foreign aide... just like how joe did when he got the guy fired...

there is no real basis for any of this... they were gunning for him since he won... really before when hillary and barack made up the russian thing...

and the leaker too and weasel schiff too...

and you HAVE to agree that nancy making a big show with all thoes pens demonstrates it was all political...


Why? And have their life in jeopardy? Someone would hire someone to take them out. That is not good for someone who did the right thing to have their life threatened and/or live in fear coz they did the right thing. Dangerous times.

Schiff has nothing to do with what was going on with the funds being withheld from Ukraine etc etc.




The Trump apologists keep making this "we have the right to face our accuser in court" argument but of course, they are wrong. The right to face one's accuser is contained in the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution and it applies solely to criminal cases.

Now - we all agree that unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump IS guilty of multiple crimes, but an impeachment trial is NOT a criminal trial. So all those rights that criminally-accused persons get under the Bill of Rights do not apply in the case of unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump.

Internet Lawyers and Trump Apologists like to scream "CONSTITUTION!!!111!!111!!!" several times a day but none of them have actually read it or understand it.

Another argument that Internet Lawyers like to make is also found in the Sixth Amendment and that is the right to a trial by an impartial jury. Again, that applies to criminal trials only (although it is applied as a matter of principle in civil trials). Various floundering Internet Lawyers will try to use the Sixth Amendment and its application in criminal trials only to say that means it's OK for Moscow Mitch and Lindsey Graham to declare before the trial that they are not going to be impartial. But...Moscow Mitch, Lindsey Graham and all the other senators had to sign an oath that they would be impartial. An oath carries a little more legal weight than a pinkie promise.

Which begs the question: Were Moscow Mitch and Lindsey Graham lying when they said they wouldn't be impartial, or were they signing an oath in bad faith? Whichever it is, one thing is certain and that is that Moscow Mitch and Lindsey Graham are dishonest.

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Reply #39 posted 01/23/20 4:37am

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On Morning Joe this morning, they said Trump tweeted a total of 142 times yesterday. lol He has set the World Record of being the only President who has tweeted an all time high. lol

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Reply #40 posted 01/23/20 8:08am

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I thought Schiff did a good job of laying out what the impeachment is for yesterday.

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Reply #41 posted 01/23/20 12:47pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

luv4u said:


Why? And have their life in jeopardy? Someone would hire someone to take them out. That is not good for someone who did the right thing to have their life threatened and/or live in fear coz they did the right thing. Dangerous times.

Schiff has nothing to do with what was going on with the funds being withheld from Ukraine etc etc.

Yes. We have a right to face our accuser in court. His identity is known. If he felt it was so important YES. He can go into witness protection.


Schiff should be called too as a was in contact with the leaker.



The identity is NOT known whether it is a he or a her or their name. If it was out there for the whole world to know that would be dangerous.

They are probably in witness protection. I have no doubt that they would receive threats on their life and the possibility of getting assassinated.

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Reply #42 posted 01/23/20 2:31pm

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luv4u said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Yes. We have a right to face our accuser in court. His identity is known. If he felt it was so important YES. He can go into witness protection.


Schiff should be called too as a was in contact with the leaker.



The identity is NOT known whether it is a he or a her or their name. If it was out there for the whole world to know that would be dangerous.

They are probably in witness protection. I have no doubt that they would receive threats on their life and the possibility of getting assassinated.

Important to note: "Leaker" - is not the same thing as "Whistleblower"

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Reply #43 posted 01/23/20 2:38pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

luv4u said:



The identity is NOT known whether it is a he or a her or their name. If it was out there for the whole world to know that would be dangerous.

They are probably in witness protection. I have no doubt that they would receive threats on their life and the possibility of getting assassinated.

Important to note: "Leaker" - is not the same thing as "Whistleblower"

In Fox land, it is the same thing. Changing history to serve their criminal agenda.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #44 posted 01/24/20 7:58am

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luv4u said:



The identity is NOT known whether it is a he or a her or their name. If it was out there for the whole world to know that would be dangerous.

They are probably in witness protection. I have no doubt that they would receive threats on their life and the possibility of getting assassinated.

Important to note: "Leaker" - is not the same thing as "Whistleblower"



VERY true, and excellent catch. Only was pretty sneaky with that one! highfive

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Reply #45 posted 01/24/20 8:00am

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Adam Schiff was incredible last night.

If some - or even most - of the GOP Senators don't vote for witnesses and documents after Congressman Schiff's excellent presentation last night, I may lose all faith in humanity. Or at least, in a certain part of humanity.

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Reply #46 posted 01/24/20 9:51am

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Speaking of losing faith in a certain part of humanity...

Almost 1/3 of Repblicans in America believe unrepentant serial adutlerer Donald J. Trump has committed illegal acts as president. Yay for them! But...

60% of that group don't think he should be removed from office. Even though they believe he's broken the law!

How do you get to that point in your thinking?!?


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Reply #47 posted 01/24/20 11:10am

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RodeoSchro said:

Speaking of losing faith in a certain part of humanity...

Almost 1/3 of Repblicans in America believe unrepentant serial adutlerer Donald J. Trump has committed illegal acts as president. Yay for them! But...

60% of that group don't think he should be removed from office. Even though they believe he's broken the law!

How do you get to that point in your thinking?!?


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This poll says everything you need and the republicans need to know about this impeachment trial. Basically, the repubs "ain't budging." I'm not falling for Lucy and the football (i.e. Susan Collins, Romney, Gardner, etc.) However, the problem with this line of thinking is, this poll just feature republicans viewpoint.. I'm sure Independent voters aren't in the same camp. trump and his ilk can feel good about the overwhelming support from the base, BUT the rest of America is NOT his base.

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Being that trump has been furious about Schiff and the dems presentation these last few days, you can fully expect trump to order his legal minions to go full Kavanaugh on them tomorrow and throughout their time . Remember? Everyone (including the pres) was shook when Dr. Ford gave her testimony. Kavanaugh had to "go big or go home." He went big (just like trump likes), we all know where he sits now.

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I expect his team to try to please their audience of one and go hard against the dems factual based arguments. Hopefully while doing so, enough people from the districts of those so-called vulnerable repubs will be bombarded with emails and phone calls threatening them with losing their seats at the table come next election and vote to at least force them to allow witnesses and docs to be a part of the trial.

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Reply #48 posted 01/24/20 11:43am

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Purple state Republican Senators all are under water in election.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #49 posted 01/24/20 12:51pm

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Purple state Republican Senators all are under water in election.

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It would be hilarious if they lose their seats as a result of supporting trump.

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Reply #50 posted 01/24/20 2:40pm

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Reply #51 posted 01/24/20 2:51pm

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Trump captured on tape demanding firing of ambassador to Ukraine, attorney says

New York (CNN)President Donald Trump was captured on tape at a 2018 dinner with Lev Parnas and

Igor Fruman demanding the firing of Marie Yovanovitch, who was then the US ambassador to Ukraine, according to an attorney for Parnas.


"Get rid of her!" a voice appearing to belong to Trump says on the recording, according to ABC News, which on Friday first reported its existence.

"Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."
CNN has not reviewed the tape.


Wow! And there you go

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Reply #52 posted 01/24/20 3:06pm

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RodeoSchro said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Important to note: "Leaker" - is not the same thing as "Whistleblower"



VERY true, and excellent catch. Only was pretty sneaky with that one! highfive

not being sneaky he is a leaker... and if there is any justice he will be forced to testify...

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Reply #53 posted 01/24/20 3:16pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

joe and hunter and the leaker are MUST calls... the all have evidence that goes directed to the questions... joe and hunter have to be drilled on how hunter got the job and why joe extorted them to fire the person looking into the apparent corruption...

the leaker has to be called as there is no actual direct evidence to support any of the claims in #1...

#2 is total garbage as all they did was wage a defence against political persecution and GASP appeal to the courts!

. Joe and Hunter Bidon are only MUST calls if trump is admitting the Articles of Impeachment are 100% correct. This means quid pro quo, that trump did withhold military aid unless Ukraine played ball and trump obstructed justice. Whether the Bidons actually did anything wrong is irrelevant. The person charged (trump) only had to be acting on the assumption that this was worth getting a foreign government to interfere in the next US election. . But those you parrot have not thought this through.

Wrong. See part of the lie is that there was no basis to ask for the investigation--which joe had closed by directly threatening to withhold a billion dollars--into a company that hired hunter--who admitted he was not really qualified for and hunter also admitted that he should not have taken the job because it looked bad.

If hunter's employment was 100% legit...then the biden's should welcome an investigation.


the leaker (who is known) needs to take the stand as no one else had any direct evidence of any wrongdoing.... NONE AT ALL. (Oh someone told me that he heard someone say that trump did this or that....or I really felt like it was bad.... or it could be taken as such...)

Shiff needs to take the stand as there are questions as to how honest he was and what he knew and when he came to know it... (he lied about material contact with the leaker)

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Reply #54 posted 01/24/20 3:18pm

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Trump captured on tape demanding firing of ambassador to Ukraine, attorney says

New York (CNN)President Donald Trump was captured on tape at a 2018 dinner with Lev Parnas and

Igor Fruman demanding the firing of Marie Yovanovitch, who was then the US ambassador to Ukraine, according to an attorney for Parnas.


"Get rid of her!" a voice appearing to belong to Trump says on the recording, according to ABC News, which on Friday first reported its existence.

"Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."
CNN has not reviewed the tape.


Wow! And there you go

so what? is he or is he not her boss? she works at his pleasure....

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Reply #55 posted 01/24/20 3:36pm

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Let's be clear....the only reason Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the Biden's is because of the threat that Joe Biden is to Trump in the election.


Only, you know this. You argue for trump, all the time. Just stop making excuses. confused


He got caught.

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Reply #56 posted 01/24/20 3:56pm

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Let's be clear....the only reason Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the Biden's is because of the threat that Joe Biden is to Trump in the election.


Only, you know this. You argue for trump, all the time. Just stop making excuses. confused


He got caught.

and if not for joe bragging about getting the investigator fired and if not for hunter saying taking the job looked bad... sure...maybe...but wait...how is that any different than impeaching trump?

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Reply #57 posted 01/24/20 4:06pm

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Trump should be impeached, and he was. He should also be removed from office, but the pussy repubs don't have the balls to do it.

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Reply #58 posted 01/24/20 4:18pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

IanRG said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: . Joe and Hunter Bidon are only MUST calls if trump is admitting the Articles of Impeachment are 100% correct. This means quid pro quo, that trump did withhold military aid unless Ukraine played ball and trump obstructed justice. Whether the Bidons actually did anything wrong is irrelevant. The person charged (trump) only had to be acting on the assumption that this was worth getting a foreign government to interfere in the next US election. . But those you parrot have not thought this through.

Wrong. See part of the lie is that there was no basis to ask for the investigation--which joe had closed by directly threatening to withhold a billion dollars--into a company that hired hunter--who admitted he was not really qualified for and hunter also admitted that he should not have taken the job because it looked bad.

If hunter's employment was 100% legit...then the biden's should welcome an investigation.


the leaker (who is known) needs to take the stand as no one else had any direct evidence of any wrongdoing.... NONE AT ALL. (Oh someone told me that he heard someone say that trump did this or that....or I really felt like it was bad.... or it could be taken as such...)

Shiff needs to take the stand as there are questions as to how honest he was and what he knew and when he came to know it... (he lied about material contact with the leaker)

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Wrong, you need to stop listening to those you parrot. Where is this in the charges trump is facing? It is trump's actions that are before the impeachment court. Not the desire for some far right nutters to further misuse the US constitution and legal system for undue political gain.

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How did anything the Bidens do aid trump in obstructing justice by preventing evidence to be presented that would harm trump?

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How did the Bidens contribute to trump acting like a 3rd world dictator in applying political pressure to undermine a political opponent by withholding aid from a desparate country?

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This is just spin to take the focus of the articles of impeachment.

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Republican senators told their heads ‘will be on a pike’ if they vote against Trump: report

The Trump administration is getting medieval in the impeachment trial, according to a CBS News report.

“Vote against the President and your head will be on a pike.”


As House Democrats continued to present their opening arguments in the impeachment trial accusing President Trump of abusing his power on Thursday, a Trump confidant told CBS News that Republican senators were warned about voting against the commander-in-chief.


https://www.marketwatch.c...2020-01-24




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