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RodeoSchro

Hillary Clinton Completely Exonerated by Trump Administration



Yep - that headline is 100% true and accurate. Although for those of us with working brains, it is not a surprise.

The Trump administration's Justice Department just effectively closed a 2-year-long investigation into Hillary's business dealings, including those of the Clinton Foundation. Their conclusion?

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and everyone who was associated with the Clinton Foundation is completely honest and guilty of absolutely no wrongdoing of any kind.

Couple this unsurprising result with the results of the 6-count-'em-6 Republican investigations into Benghazi, which all also completely exonerated Hillary Clinton, and it's clear that Hillary Clinton is 100% more honest than any Republican politician in the country.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/...index.html


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Reply #1 posted 01/10/20 2:52pm

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Of course - it was ALWAYS a nothing burger. However, Trump's taxes... burger

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Of course - it was ALWAYS a nothing burger. However, Trump's taxes... burger

It's a sport.

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Reply #3 posted 01/12/20 5:01am

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i hope there is a good meme out there to introduce this Clinton exoneration ...

On the subject of Dumpfs taxes - i really do not think they will find out too much other than he is not at rich as he says and maybe the source of some of his loans (russia) ...

I think Dumpf uses some high powere tax attorneys that make sure he is above the law and pays as few as he can .... confused

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Reply #4 posted 01/13/20 6:41am

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RodeoSchro said:

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and everyone who was associated with the Clinton Foundation is completely honest and guilty of absolutely no wrongdoing of any kind.


lol lol lol


I don't get why you're so bent out of shape that they looked into this stuff. The Clinton's are awful people and so it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too. It's no different than Trump, just because they didn't find fire doesn't mean it's not burning somewhere else.
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Reply #5 posted 01/13/20 2:21pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:
Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and everyone who was associated with the Clinton Foundation is completely honest and guilty of absolutely no wrongdoing of any kind.
lol lol lol I don't get why you're so bent out of shape that they looked into this stuff. The Clinton's are awful people and so it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too. It's no different than Trump, just because they didn't find fire doesn't mean it's not burning somewhere else.



"it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too"? Did you not read the story? Everyone, and I mean everyone, involved with the Clinton Foundation was found to have committed no wrongdoing at all - by Republicans.

It's comments like that which convince me you're a Republican whose trying to troll Democrats. No one with an open mind or an ability to read four lines of text would have written "it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too" for any other fathomable reason.

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Reply #6 posted 01/13/20 6:37pm

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RodeoSchro said:

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said: lol lol lol I don't get why you're so bent out of shape that they looked into this stuff. The Clinton's are awful people and so it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too. It's no different than Trump, just because they didn't find fire doesn't mean it's not burning somewhere else.



"it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too"? Did you not read the story? Everyone, and I mean everyone, involved with the Clinton Foundation was found to have committed no wrongdoing at all - by Republicans.

It's comments like that which convince me you're a Republican whose trying to troll Democrats. No one with an open mind or an ability to read four lines of text would have written "it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too" for any other fathomable reason.


Trump was pretty much exonerated by the Mueller report (his words lol) and you still think he did something wrong there. Pot, meet the kettle. The Clintons may have been exonerated in this one instance, but there's dirt there that I'm sure has yet to be found. But you'll just call me a troll or a republican or worse and dismiss me like usual.

Do you believe in your heart of hearts that the Clintons are good, moral people? Why or why not? And I don't mean moral as in Christian or whatever else you might try to twist it as. Just moral in the simplest sense of the word.

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Reply #7 posted 01/14/20 7:19am

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guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:



"it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too"? Did you not read the story? Everyone, and I mean everyone, involved with the Clinton Foundation was found to have committed no wrongdoing at all - by Republicans.

It's comments like that which convince me you're a Republican whose trying to troll Democrats. No one with an open mind or an ability to read four lines of text would have written "it only follows that their business dealings are probably awful too" for any other fathomable reason.


Trump was pretty much exonerated by the Mueller report (his words lol) and you still think he did something wrong there. Pot, meet the kettle. The Clintons may have been exonerated in this one instance, but there's dirt there that I'm sure has yet to be found. But you'll just call me a troll or a republican or worse and dismiss me like usual.

Do you believe in your heart of hearts that the Clintons are good, moral people? Why or why not? And I don't mean moral as in Christian or whatever else you might try to twist it as. Just moral in the simplest sense of the word.




First - Trump was not exonerated by the Mueller report; it incriminated him in nearly a dozen instances of obstruction of justice.

Second - No one in the history of our country has been investigated more than Hillary Clinton. There were at least six Republican investigations of Benghazi - each one completely exonerating Hillary Clinton, including the one set up by a GOP Congress and led by that peacock MFer Trey Gowdy for the express intent to nail Hillary Clinton. There were several investigations into the uranium hokey that droolers like Genius Lawyer(TM) Rudy Giuliani still push to this day - each investigation completely exonerated Hillary Clinton. There were, I think, five investigations into the death of Vince Foster - another favorite of Republican droolers - each investigation, including Kenneth Starr's, completely exonerated Hillary Clinton. And now we find that the Trump administration's Justice Department has determined the Clinbton Foundatio, including Hillary Clinton, committed absolutely no wrongdoing at all.

That's a whole lot of nothing, wouldn't you agree? So if there's still "dirt to be found" then let me know which of the following statements is true, because one of them HAS to be:

A. Republicans are and have been for almost three decades the absolute worst, dumbest and ineffective investigators known to mankind; or

B. Hillary Clinton has not done anything wrong.

Again - one of those has to be true; let me know which one it is.

Third - are the Clintons good and moral? I think Bill Clinton is basically good but is not what I'd call moral. I think Hillary Clinton is good and moral.

Finally - I like you! I wouldn't call you anything worse than a Republican troll. Maybe you're an unwitting Republican troll, kind of like Tulsi Gabbard. I don't know but hey, I respect the effort. And I don't dismiss you; shucks, I reply to you more than just about anyone else!

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Reply #8 posted 01/14/20 8:09am

RodeoSchro

Don't just take my word for it, LOL:

https://www.washingtonpos...cian-ever/

Hillary Clinton is the most exonerated politician ever



Hillary Clinton has a unique distinction: She has been exonerated twice after extensive federal investigations, the latest entirely unjustified and the result of a politicized Justice Department. President Trump of course was NOT exonerated in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation, which found 10 or so categories of conduct that but for the present policy of Justice Department guidelines would serve as the basis for obstruction-of-justice charges. If Trump is defeated in November he can still be criminally charged the moment he leaves office.

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The hordes of right-wing media pundits and columnists will not fess up for pushing a blatantly false narrative. Because they are held to such a low standard by legitimate media outlets, the voices in the right-wing echo chamber pay no price for joining in the persecution of Trump’s nemesis.

“One of the most common tools of autocrats around the world is to use law enforcement as a weapon to go after political opponents,” explains Ian Bassin, executive director of the nonpartisan organization Protect Democracy, which has litigated against Trump’s unconstitutional actions. “That this misguided investigation has been brought to an end is a sign the walls of our system are still holding; that it was allowed to happen at all is a sign that Trump’s constant pounding at those walls is producing cracks." Bassin adds, “With a president who has boasted wrongly that he can do ‘whatever he wants’ with the Justice Department, we can’t afford to just hope that sanity prevails the next time — and there will be a next time.”

<snip>

Simply put, Trump used the Justice Department to conduct a baseless investigation of a political opponent, and no one seems to have been held accountable. Legal analyst and professor Maya Wiley observes: “Targeting power of the state on a person you hate or just simply to distract is absolutely abuse of power and a danger to democracy.”

When the time comes under a future president for a housecleaning at the Justice Department and for referrals to state bar organizations, the Clinton investigation should be included. Lawyers have a responsibility to refuse to initiate or to conduct spurious investigations, as occurred with Trump’s inquest into Clinton. That said, at least Clinton can tout her two exonerations. Trump doesn’t have even one.

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Reply #9 posted 01/15/20 4:25pm

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RodeoSchro said:

guitarslinger44 said:


Trump was pretty much exonerated by the Mueller report (his words lol) and you still think he did something wrong there. Pot, meet the kettle. The Clintons may have been exonerated in this one instance, but there's dirt there that I'm sure has yet to be found. But you'll just call me a troll or a republican or worse and dismiss me like usual.

Do you believe in your heart of hearts that the Clintons are good, moral people? Why or why not? And I don't mean moral as in Christian or whatever else you might try to twist it as. Just moral in the simplest sense of the word.




First - Trump was not exonerated by the Mueller report; it incriminated him in nearly a dozen instances of obstruction of justice.

Second - No one in the history of our country has been investigated more than Hillary Clinton. There were at least six Republican investigations of Benghazi - each one completely exonerating Hillary Clinton, including the one set up by a GOP Congress and led by that peacock MFer Trey Gowdy for the express intent to nail Hillary Clinton. There were several investigations into the uranium hokey that droolers like Genius Lawyer(TM) Rudy Giuliani still push to this day - each investigation completely exonerated Hillary Clinton. There were, I think, five investigations into the death of Vince Foster - another favorite of Republican droolers - each investigation, including Kenneth Starr's, completely exonerated Hillary Clinton. And now we find that the Trump administration's Justice Department has determined the Clinbton Foundatio, including Hillary Clinton, committed absolutely no wrongdoing at all.

That's a whole lot of nothing, wouldn't you agree? So if there's still "dirt to be found" then let me know which of the following statements is true, because one of them HAS to be:

A. Republicans are and have been for almost three decades the absolute worst, dumbest and ineffective investigators known to mankind; or

B. Hillary Clinton has not done anything wrong.

Again - one of those has to be true; let me know which one it is.

Third - are the Clintons good and moral? I think Bill Clinton is basically good but is not what I'd call moral. I think Hillary Clinton is good and moral.

Finally - I like you! I wouldn't call you anything worse than a Republican troll. Maybe you're an unwitting Republican troll, kind of like Tulsi Gabbard. I don't know but hey, I respect the effort. And I don't dismiss you; shucks, I reply to you more than just about anyone else!

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I suspect the Clintons dealings are a lot like Trump's. They may not be able to find enough evidence to get them on anything but that doesn't mean they're innocent. I guess time will tell.

If there's so much to the Mueller Report findings of Trump's obstruction of justice, then why isn't that part of the impeachment hearing? If it's such an open and shut case, why are they grasping at straws over all this?

I like you too. I'm not a republican, just a skeptic.

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Reply #10 posted 01/15/20 11:50pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:




First - Trump was not exonerated by the Mueller report; it incriminated him in nearly a dozen instances of obstruction of justice.

Second - No one in the history of our country has been investigated more than Hillary Clinton. There were at least six Republican investigations of Benghazi - each one completely exonerating Hillary Clinton, including the one set up by a GOP Congress and led by that peacock MFer Trey Gowdy for the express intent to nail Hillary Clinton. There were several investigations into the uranium hokey that droolers like Genius Lawyer(TM) Rudy Giuliani still push to this day - each investigation completely exonerated Hillary Clinton. There were, I think, five investigations into the death of Vince Foster - another favorite of Republican droolers - each investigation, including Kenneth Starr's, completely exonerated Hillary Clinton. And now we find that the Trump administration's Justice Department has determined the Clinbton Foundatio, including Hillary Clinton, committed absolutely no wrongdoing at all.

That's a whole lot of nothing, wouldn't you agree? So if there's still "dirt to be found" then let me know which of the following statements is true, because one of them HAS to be:

A. Republicans are and have been for almost three decades the absolute worst, dumbest and ineffective investigators known to mankind; or

B. Hillary Clinton has not done anything wrong.

Again - one of those has to be true; let me know which one it is.

Third - are the Clintons good and moral? I think Bill Clinton is basically good but is not what I'd call moral. I think Hillary Clinton is good and moral.

Finally - I like you! I wouldn't call you anything worse than a Republican troll. Maybe you're an unwitting Republican troll, kind of like Tulsi Gabbard. I don't know but hey, I respect the effort. And I don't dismiss you; shucks, I reply to you more than just about anyone else!

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I suspect the Clintons dealings are a lot like Trump's. They may not be able to find enough evidence to get them on anything but that doesn't mean they're innocent. I guess time will tell.

If there's so much to the Mueller Report findings of Trump's obstruction of justice, then why isn't that part of the impeachment hearing? If it's such an open and shut case, why are they grasping at straws over all this?

I like you too. I'm not a republican, just a skeptic.

I'm not nearly as able to reply as RodeoShro but I do have a lot of bookmarks! I thought I'd provide some links that might answer the question I highlighted. It's bloomin' complicated. And, why the House decided not to include Obstruction of Justice in the impeachment articles... did they say? Does it have to do with the redactions in the Mueller Report? Or, was it that Obstruction of Justice is too d----- complicated for people to follow? Or, that some of that stuff, being 'classified', can't be shared with the public? I don't know. But, in the hopes that the following will be helpful, I'm listing a bunch of articles that seem relevant. I'd really hoped to find a table I saw recently that compared cooperation from the Whitehouse in the Clinton impeachment vs. the utter lack of cooperation emanating from the present WH. The Clinton WH turned over volumes and volumes and volumes of information. In pretty much every category, from the T---- WH, you get a big fat zero.

Article titled 'In Deciding On Trump Obstruction, Mueller Faced 'Uncharted' Territory' https://talkingpointsmemo...ller-hedge
Article titled 'Why'd Mueller's Team Let Themselves Get Snookered?'https://talkingpointsmemo...-snookered
Article titled 'The Mueller Report is 448 Pages Long. You Need to Know These 7 Key Things' (see point #4) https://www.nytimes.com/2...aways.html
Article titled 'House Takes Step Towards Impeachment With Mueller Doc Demand' oh yeah... all that redacted stuff! https://talkingpointsmemo...doc-demand

Article titled 'Judge orders DOJ to turn over Mueller grand jury evidence' https://www.nbcnews.com/p...d_bn_tw_bn
Article titled 'Trump Administration Says It Won't Comply With Impeachement Inquiry' https://www.wamc.org/post...nt-inquiry
Stepping back in time to April 2019 article titled 'Maxing It Out for Trump' https://talkingpointsmemo...-for-trump

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Reply #11 posted 01/16/20 1:17pm

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^ thumbs up! highfive

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Reply #12 posted 01/17/20 9:02am

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The issue with the Clinton Foundation was that it was not technically illegal but highly dubious--taking money from Gulf States and Saudis? These are terrorist pigs.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #13 posted 01/18/20 8:03pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The issue with the Clinton Foundation was that it was not technically illegal but highly dubious--taking money from Gulf States and Saudis? These are terrorist pigs.



“Dubious”?
You’re much too kind.

Saudi Arabia fund terrorists, no doubt.
The U.S, and as are most other nations for that matter, are manufacturing weapons for Saudi Arabia’s terrorism in Yemen.
The U.S surpasses almost any nation in terms of terrorism though.
How many people have died as a result of u.s sanctions?
How many suffer as a result of depleted uranium?


Let’s not forget Libya.
When the western world cheered on with glee as Clinton’s army publicly sodomised and killed Gaddafi.
sodomised, tortured and killed a black man in front of the whole world.
Clinton is an agent of white supremacy. Globally and within the U.S.

But if Clinton is “exonerated” by a Trump presidency then what do we say about the missed opportunity that was a potential Jill Stein presidency, an actual progressive.






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[Edited 1/18/20 20:21pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #15 posted 01/22/20 12:53pm

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The 2020 candidate threads must be old - I didn't see one and I went back 30 days. I guess we can resurrect them after unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump's impeachment trial is concluded, hopefully with his removal from office. We'll see what happens.

In the meantime we have some campaign-adjacent news concerning Hillary Clinton, so why not post it here!

Tulsi Gabbard did NOT like it when Hillary intimated that someone in the 2020 Democratic campaign is a Russian asset. Gabbard REALLY did not like it when she decided that everyone decided it was Gabbard that Clinton was referring to. So she did what any conservative, small-government American would do.

She sued Hillary Clinton!

falloff

For $50,000,000!

falloff

Because Gabbard says science proved everyone thought Hillary was referring to her!

falloff

But seriously - maybe it would be good if Gabbard won this suit. Just THINK about how many people could sue Fox News over their insinuations. The mind boggles. So, uh.....go Tulsi?

https://www.aol.com/artic.../23906671/

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) has sued Hillary Clinton over an interview last fall in which Clinton called Gabbard a “Russian asset.”

Gabbard’s defamation lawsuit, filed in a New York federal court on Wednesday, claims the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee lied about Gabbard “with obvious malicious intent” to harm the congresswoman’s 2020 presidential campaign.

“Clinton falsely stated that Tulsi ― an Army National Guard officer and United States Congresswoman who has spent her entire adult life serving this country ― is a ‘Russian asset.’ Clinton’s false assertions were made in a deliberate attempt to derail Tulsi’s presidential campaign,” the complaint says.



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hausofmoi7 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The issue with the Clinton Foundation was that it was not technically illegal but highly dubious--taking money from Gulf States and Saudis? These are terrorist pigs.

“Dubious”? You’re much too kind. Saudi Arabia fund terrorists, no doubt. The U.S, and as are most other nations for that matter, are manufacturing weapons for Saudi Arabia’s terrorism in Yemen. The U.S surpasses almost any nation in terms of terrorism though. How many people have died as a result of u.s sanctions? How many suffer as a result of depleted uranium? Let’s not forget Libya. When the western world cheered on with glee as Clinton’s army publicly sodomised and killed Gaddafi. sodomised, tortured and killed a black man in front of the whole world. Clinton is an agent of white supremacy. Globally and within the U.S. But if Clinton is “exonerated” by a Trump presidency then what do we say about the missed opportunity that was a potential Jill Stein presidency, an actual progressive. . [Edited 1/19/20 3:25am]

Jill Stein. What a joke.

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Reply #17 posted 01/22/20 5:20pm

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The investigation....Its for show to Trump's delusion base.

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Reply #19 posted 01/23/20 4:28pm

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RodeoSchro said:

The 2020 candidate threads must be old - I didn't see one and I went back 30 days. I guess we can resurrect them after unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump's impeachment trial is concluded, hopefully with his removal from office. We'll see what happens.

In the meantime we have some campaign-adjacent news concerning Hillary Clinton, so why not post it here!

Tulsi Gabbard did NOT like it when Hillary intimated that someone in the 2020 Democratic campaign is a Russian asset. Gabbard REALLY did not like it when she decided that everyone decided it was Gabbard that Clinton was referring to. So she did what any conservative, small-government American would do.

She sued Hillary Clinton!

falloff

For $50,000,000!

falloff

Because Gabbard says science proved everyone thought Hillary was referring to her!

falloff

But seriously - maybe it would be good if Gabbard won this suit. Just THINK about how many people could sue Fox News over their insinuations. The mind boggles. So, uh.....go Tulsi?

https://www.aol.com/artic.../23906671/

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) has sued Hillary Clinton over an interview last fall in which Clinton called Gabbard a “Russian asset.”

Gabbard’s defamation lawsuit, filed in a New York federal court on Wednesday, claims the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee lied about Gabbard “with obvious malicious intent” to harm the congresswoman’s 2020 presidential campaign.

“Clinton falsely stated that Tulsi ― an Army National Guard officer and United States Congresswoman who has spent her entire adult life serving this country ― is a ‘Russian asset.’ Clinton’s false assertions were made in a deliberate attempt to derail Tulsi’s presidential campaign,” the complaint says.




It's defamation and it's legal to sue for that. Maybe for once in her life, Clinton will be held accountable for her words/actions.

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