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Reply #60 posted 11/22/19 8:50am

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poppys said:


The words k@@k and k@@ky are banned on the org. Reportable and snippable because it is an obscure slang term used by native Hawaiians to describe white surfers. Probably in the urban dictionary. According to past (gotcha) posts, you are disparaging my race with that comment.


lol Wow! No. It means crazy. Even at urban dictionary. If I am disparaging you, it's not for your race or your surfing habits, but for your crazy posts. Like this one I quote above for example. lol


From Google:

"What is a kook surfer?
A kook is a pre-beginner surfer, an aspiring wave rider, a nerd, or someone who tries - and fails - to mimic the surfing lifestyle. Kooks are careless, odd, exotic, and ridiculous. They disrespect the nobility of surfing."

https://www.google.com/se...ite+surfer

Seems "kook", which is NOT what I said to you (I said "kooky"), is about as much a "slur" to surfers as words like "noob" or "poser" are to everyone else.

FAIL!! lol razz lol







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Reply #61 posted 11/22/19 11:26am

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djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:


The words k@@k and k@@ky are banned on the org. Reportable and snippable because it is an obscure slang term used by native Hawaiians to describe white surfers. Probably in the urban dictionary. According to past (gotcha) posts, you are disparaging my race with that comment.


lol Wow! No. It means crazy. Even at urban dictionary. If I am disparaging you, it's not for your race or your surfing habits, but for your crazy posts. Like this one I quote above for example. lol


From Google:

"What is a kook surfer?
A kook is a pre-beginner surfer, an aspiring wave rider, a nerd, or someone who tries - and fails - to mimic the surfing lifestyle. Kooks are careless, odd, exotic, and ridiculous. They disrespect the nobility of surfing."

https://www.google.com/se...ite+surfer

Seems "kook", which is NOT what I said to you (I said "kooky"), is about as much a "slur" to surfers as words like "noob" or "poser" are to everyone else.

FAIL!! lol razz lol


Regardless of what you are saying now, I was reported and snipped for using the word in any form. I have told you this before, it is nothing new. I did not say I agreed with it. It was a GOTCHA from 2 other orgers.

It was exactly what you try to do to people here all the time, pretend they are being offensive when they are not to make a "point". Ever since you "came back", you have constantly called out others unfairly, starting with the Hong Kong thread up until the present. Including gouma, a word you called out as a racial slur in the Trump Junior thread last week, which was proven to be a false accusation.

rsdb.org/slur/kook - The Racial Slur Database

Race: Whites
Hawaiian surfers use this term towards novice white surfers


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Reply #62 posted 11/22/19 12:15pm

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poppys said:

djThunderfunk said:


lol Wow! No. It means crazy. Even at urban dictionary. If I am disparaging you, it's not for your race or your surfing habits, but for your crazy posts. Like this one I quote above for example. lol


From Google:

"What is a kook surfer?
A kook is a pre-beginner surfer, an aspiring wave rider, a nerd, or someone who tries - and fails - to mimic the surfing lifestyle. Kooks are careless, odd, exotic, and ridiculous. They disrespect the nobility of surfing."

https://www.google.com/se...ite+surfer

Seems "kook", which is NOT what I said to you (I said "kooky"), is about as much a "slur" to surfers as words like "noob" or "poser" are to everyone else.

FAIL!! lol razz lol


Regardless of what you are saying now, I was reported and snipped for using the word in any form. I have told you this before, it is nothing new. I did not say I agreed with it. It was a GOTCHA from 2 other orgers.

It was exactly what you try to do to people here all the time, pretend they are being offensive when they are not to make a "point". Ever since you "came back", you have constantly called out others unfairly, starting with the Hong Kong thread up until the present. Including gouma, a word you called out as a racial slur in the Trump Junior thread last week, which was proven to be a false accusation.

rsdb.org/slur/kook - The Racial Slur Database

Race: Whites
Hawaiian surfers use this term towards novice white surfers



Yes, "gouma" has definitions I missed. You got me. Ouch! lol

Why your panties are bunched up about it, I have no idea. wink




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Reply #63 posted 11/22/19 1:25pm

IanRG

djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:


Regardless of what you are saying now, I was reported and snipped for using the word in any form. I have told you this before, it is nothing new. I did not say I agreed with it. It was a GOTCHA from 2 other orgers.

It was exactly what you try to do to people here all the time, pretend they are being offensive when they are not to make a "point". Ever since you "came back", you have constantly called out others unfairly, starting with the Hong Kong thread up until the present. Including gouma, a word you called out as a racial slur in the Trump Junior thread last week, which was proven to be a false accusation.

rsdb.org/slur/kook - The Racial Slur Database

Race: Whites
Hawaiian surfers use this term towards novice white surfers



Yes, "gouma" has definitions I missed. You got me. Ouch! lol

Why your panties are bunched up about it, I have no idea. wink




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Ahhh, so this it.

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You tried to do a "gotcha" on JJ and it backfired again because you simply got it wrong and I pointed this out. Now you pretend to not even read me - Whose panties are bunched?

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This personal vendetta you have against several people is off topic. The topic is the dropping of the rape case against Assange - It is you topic and you derailed it.

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Reply #64 posted 11/22/19 1:33pm

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IanRG said:

djThunderfunk said:


Yes, "gouma" has definitions I missed. You got me. Ouch! lol

Why your panties are bunched up about it, I have no idea. wink


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Ahhh, so this it.

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You tried to do a "gotcha" on JJ and it backfired again because you simply got it wrong and I pointed this out. Now you pretend to not even read me - Whose panties are bunched?

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This personal vendetta you have against several people is off topic. The topic is the dropping of the rape case against Assange - It is your topic and you derailed it.


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Reply #65 posted 11/22/19 1:52pm

djThunderfunk

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poppys said:

IanRG said:

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Ahhh, so this it.

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You tried to do a "gotcha" on JJ and it backfired again because you simply got it wrong and I pointed this out. Now you pretend to not even read me - Whose panties are bunched?

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This personal vendetta you have against several people is off topic. The topic is the dropping of the rape case against Assange - It is your topic and you derailed it.


nod


I didn't even get into it with you until you brought stuff from an old thread to dig at me.
The derailer you're looking for might be you, honey. hug

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Reply #66 posted 11/22/19 2:33pm

poppys

djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:

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I didn't even get into it with you until you brought stuff from an old thread to dig at me.

The derailer you're looking for might be you, honey. hug


Oh really???


OP - djThunderfunk said:

Now we can focus on the fact that Assange is a whistleblower and his activities with Wikileaks should be protected as such.

Reply #34 - djThunderfunk said:

Says the far lefty who embraces warmongers like McCain and Bush... because they didn't like the trumpclown. lol lol lol

Yeah, I went there, and somebody's panties are still all twisted over it.

Evidently, I'm living rent free in this chick's brain. razz

Reply #61 - poppys said :

It was exactly what you try to do to people here all the time, pretend they are being offensive when they are not to make a "point". Ever since you "came back", you have constantly called out others unfairly, starting with the Hong Kong thread up until the present. Including gouma, a word you called out as a racial slur in the Trump Junior thread last week, which was proven to be a false accusation.


This thread is a trainwreck and the engineer missed the car on the tracks way before "old stuff" from last week was pointed out.

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Reply #67 posted 11/22/19 3:14pm

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Interesting on topic fact:

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What is 128.5%?

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The proportion of time that Assange has spent in custody, in hiding and in gaol so far compared to the true hero here: Chelsea Manning's combined time for her whistleblowing from arrest to release was less than 7 years. In fifteen days Assange's time will have been 9 years of avoiding legal processes in regards to rape, sexual assault and extradition, only a small proportion of this in regards to the US extradition application.

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In addition, she has served extra time seeking to protect Assange.

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Reply #68 posted 11/22/19 3:55pm

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poppys said:

djThunderfunk said:


I didn't even get into it with you until you brought stuff from an old thread to dig at me.

The derailer you're looking for might be you, honey. hug


Oh really???


OP - djThunderfunk said:

Now we can focus on the fact that Assange is a whistleblower and his activities with Wikileaks should be protected as such.

Reply #34 - djThunderfunk said:

Says the far lefty who embraces warmongers like McCain and Bush... because they didn't like the trumpclown. lol lol lol

Yeah, I went there, and somebody's panties are still all twisted over it.

Evidently, I'm living rent free in this chick's brain. razz

Reply #61 - poppys said :

It was exactly what you try to do to people here all the time, pretend they are being offensive when they are not to make a "point". Ever since you "came back", you have constantly called out others unfairly, starting with the Hong Kong thread up until the present. Including gouma, a word you called out as a racial slur in the Trump Junior thread last week, which was proven to be a false accusation.


This thread is a trainwreck and the engineer missed the car on the tracks way before "old stuff" from last week was pointed out.

giphy.gif

[Edited 11/22/19 15:13pm]


Kooky. Crazy. Nuts. wacky

Go back to post 25 where you made a snide comment about me going back to another thread, which I replied to with post 31.

You can unclench and sit down now. lol

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Reply #69 posted 11/22/19 4:02pm

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Assange falls short of the smell test in many ways. He was the facilitator of the real whistleblower (Manning), which is noble in itself. But he knowingly chose to reveal sensitive personal information to further his cause (as Dimi pointed out in this thread). His conduct in Sweden is another big red flag that he never faced in an adult manner. And, unlike Manning, he's a whiner. Mixed bag.

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Reply #70 posted 11/22/19 4:09pm

poppys

djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:


Oh really???


OP - djThunderfunk said:

Now we can focus on the fact that Assange is a whistleblower and his activities with Wikileaks should be protected as such.

Reply #34 - djThunderfunk said:

Says the far lefty who embraces warmongers like McCain and Bush... because they didn't like the trumpclown. lol lol lol

Yeah, I went there, and somebody's panties are still all twisted over it.

Evidently, I'm living rent free in this chick's brain. razz

Reply #61 - poppys said :

It was exactly what you try to do to people here all the time, pretend they are being offensive when they are not to make a "point". Ever since you "came back", you have constantly called out others unfairly, starting with the Hong Kong thread up until the present. Including gouma, a word you called out as a racial slur in the Trump Junior thread last week, which was proven to be a false accusation.


This thread is a trainwreck and the engineer missed the car on the tracks way before "old stuff" from last week was pointed out.

giphy.gif

Kooky. Crazy. Nuts. wacky

Go back to post 25 where you made a snide comment about me going back to another thread, which I replied to with post 31.

You can unclench and sit down now. lol



At least that was on topic - It was about you saying Assange was too scrawny to commit rape, which you did say. Notice it was about ASSANGE - your topic. Do you have anything further to say about Assange???


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Reply #71 posted 11/22/19 4:13pm

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poppys said:

djThunderfunk said:


Kooky. Crazy. Nuts. wacky

Go back to post 25 where you made a snide comment about me going back to another thread, which I replied to with post 31.

You can unclench and sit down now. lol



That was on topic - It was about you saying Assange was too scrawny to commit rape, which you did say. Notice it was about ASSANGE - your topic. Do you have anything further to say about Assange???




Didn't say it wasn't "on topic of assange". Point was, it was you going at me, from something from another thread. Which I responded to. All these posts later here we are with a thread derail. Because you decided to bring up old shit to throw shade at me and because I decided to fling it right back.

See how that works?

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Reply #72 posted 11/22/19 4:17pm

poppys

djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:



That was on topic - It was about you saying Assange was too scrawny to commit rape, which you did say. Notice it was about ASSANGE - your topic. Do you have anything further to say about Assange???




Didn't say it wasn't "on topic of assange". Point was, it was you going at me, from something from another thread. Which I responded to. All these posts later here we are with a thread derail. Because you decided to bring up old shit to throw shade at me and because I decided to fling it right back.

See how that works?


This thread is over for now, the OP killed it. There will no doubt be another one if there is more to the story of ASSANGE.

Shake it like a Peckerwood!

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Reply #73 posted 11/22/19 4:21pm

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poppys said:

djThunderfunk said:


Didn't say it wasn't "on topic of assange". Point was, it was you going at me, from something from another thread. Which I responded to. All these posts later here we are with a thread derail. Because you decided to bring up old shit to throw shade at me and because I decided to fling it right back.

See how that works?


This thread is over for now, the OP killed it. There will no doubt be another one if there is more to the story of ASSANGE.

Shake it like a Peckerwood!


So, you're done then? Good.

You baited. poke I took the bait. fish You play innocent. innocent Try to put derailing the thread on me. no no no! And declare the thread closed. lock

Nice try. finger3

The thread can get back on track now. biggrin





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Reply #74 posted 11/22/19 6:43pm

poppys

djThunderfunk said:

poppys said:


This thread is over for now, the OP killed it. There will no doubt be another one if there is more to the story of ASSANGE.

Shake it like a Peckerwood!


So, you're done then? Good.

You baited. poke I took the bait. fish You play innocent. innocent Try to put derailing the thread on me. no no no! And declare the thread closed. lock

Nice try. finger3

The thread can get back on track now. biggrin


Look up for now in the dictionary. Got anything to say about Assange??? I posted this a couple of replies back.

Assange falls short of the smell test in many ways. He was the facilitator of the real whistleblower (Manning), which is noble in itself. But he knowingly chose to reveal sensitive personal information to further his cause (as Dimi pointed out in this thread). His conduct in Sweden is another big red flag that he never faced in an adult manner. And, unlike Manning, he's a whiner. Mixed bag.

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Reply #75 posted 11/23/19 6:08am

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Got anything to say about Assange???


Already have, posts 1, 14 and 37. And if I have anything to add or something new happens, or if somebody says something worth replying to, I will again.

Now, if you'll get of my dk, I'll get off yours. Cool?

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Reply #76 posted 11/23/19 6:36am

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Such as...

Amy Goodman of Democracy Now and her guests defend Julian Assange, explains why this case threatens press freedom:

https://www.youtube.com/w...BbjTld6Vsg


I'll concede my statement in the OP that Assange is a whistleblower was incorrect. I agree that what he did was journalism, protected by the first amendment.


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Reply #77 posted 11/23/19 1:00pm

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Why are you surprised? Left is the journalism defenders.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #79 posted 11/24/19 12:20pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Why are you surprised? Left is the journalism defenders.

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Depends: Whomever is less in power are the journalist's defenders.

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Reply #80 posted 11/25/19 5:23am

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A group of over 60 doctors from all over the world have written an open letter of concern that Assange's health is failing rapidly and urging him to be moved to a prison with a better hospital.

https://www.theguardian.c...60-doctors




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Reply #81 posted 11/25/19 8:56am

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djThunderfunk said:

A group of over 60 doctors from all over the world have written an open letter of concern that Assange's health is failing rapidly and urging him to be moved to a prison with a better hospital.

https://www.theguardian.c...60-doctors




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Then he should be moved and all the others that these doctors are ignoring should also be provided with better medical care.

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IanRG said:

djThunderfunk said:

A group of over 60 doctors from all over the world have written an open letter of concern that Assange's health is failing rapidly and urging him to be moved to a prison with a better hospital.

https://www.theguardian.c...60-doctors




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Then he should be moved and all the others that these doctors are ignoring should also be provided with better medical care.

From the article:

In the letter to the British home secretary, Priti Patel, the doctors called for Assange to be moved from Belmarsh prison in southeast London to a university teaching hospital.

They based their assessment on “harrowing eyewitness accounts” of his 21 October court appearance in London and a 1 November report by Nils Melzer, the United Nations special rapporteur on torture.

I trust that the reason he hasn't been moved is that they deem he would be more at risk elsewhere than he would in the medical wing at Belmarsh (I'm almost certain he will be in the medical wing if the doctors are correct). Security is much, much, much higher in a Cat A jail than in a University Teaching Hospital. There are alternative high security hospitals in the UK, but I've met two men who've been transferred to these from cat A jail and trust me, you wouldn't want to be mixing with them! That would probably be more dangerous than a University Teaching Hospital, despite the increased security.

EDIT to add: All persons within a high risk jail have access to 'outside of jail' hospital treatment if it is deemed medically necessary.

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Reply #83 posted 11/25/19 9:31am

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maplenpg said:

IanRG said:

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Then he should be moved and all the others that these doctors are ignoring should also be provided with better medical care.

From the article:

In the letter to the British home secretary, Priti Patel, the doctors called for Assange to be moved from Belmarsh prison in southeast London to a university teaching hospital.

They based their assessment on “harrowing eyewitness accounts” of his 21 October court appearance in London and a 1 November report by Nils Melzer, the United Nations special rapporteur on torture.

I trust that the reason he hasn't been moved is that they deem he would be more at risk elsewhere than he would in the medical wing at Belmarsh (I'm almost certain he will be in the medical wing if the doctors are correct). Security is much, much, much higher in a Cat A jail than in a University Teaching Hospital. There are alternative high security hospitals in the UK, but I've met two men who've been transferred to these from cat A jail and trust me, you wouldn't want to be mixing with them! That would probably be more dangerous than a University Teaching Hospital, despite the increased security.

EDIT to add: All persons within a high risk jail have access to 'outside of jail' hospital treatment if it is deemed medically necessary.

^ Interesting firsthand information maplenpg.

Read about this yesterday. It would be easier to believe there was imminent danger if it were 6 doctors, not 60. Possibly a hyperbolic defense attorney stunt. It's hard to believe he can't get his teeth fixed without being moved, or his shoulder looked at. The mental problems could probably be a part of any jail experience, and he was reported to be deteriorating mentally in the Embassy before he went to jail. No doubt jail sucks, that's for sure.

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poppys said:

maplenpg said:

From the article:

In the letter to the British home secretary, Priti Patel, the doctors called for Assange to be moved from Belmarsh prison in southeast London to a university teaching hospital.

They based their assessment on “harrowing eyewitness accounts” of his 21 October court appearance in London and a 1 November report by Nils Melzer, the United Nations special rapporteur on torture.

I trust that the reason he hasn't been moved is that they deem he would be more at risk elsewhere than he would in the medical wing at Belmarsh (I'm almost certain he will be in the medical wing if the doctors are correct). Security is much, much, much higher in a Cat A jail than in a University Teaching Hospital. There are alternative high security hospitals in the UK, but I've met two men who've been transferred to these from cat A jail and trust me, you wouldn't want to be mixing with them! That would probably be more dangerous than a University Teaching Hospital, despite the increased security.

EDIT to add: All persons within a high risk jail have access to 'outside of jail' hospital treatment if it is deemed medically necessary.

^ Interesting firsthand information maplenpg.

Read about this yesterday. It would be easier to believe there was imminent danger if it were 6 doctors, not 60. Possibly a hyperbolic defense attorney stunt. It's hard to believe he can't get his teeth fixed without being moved, or his shoulder looked at. The mental problems could probably be a part of any jail experience, and he was reported to be deteriorating mentally in the Embassy before he went to jail. No doubt jail sucks, that's for sure.

Thanks Poppy biggrin

There is a prison dental workforce, just as there is a prison medical workforce so his shoulder and teeth are non-issues. As for your comment about mental health, given that around 70% of the prison population suffer from some sort of mental health issue, I think it is fair to say that mental health services are inadequate in UK jails.

To be honest, a lot will depend on if he's segregated or not. Mental health deteriorates much faster for those segregated long-term from others. He might choose to self-segregate (i.e. not leave his cell), or he may be segregated for his own safety (as I said, I would imagine he's on the medical wing, I would also guess he's been put with the VP's (vulnerable prisoners)). His best bet would be to engage with prison life. He is intelligent. He could work in education, or in the library. Keep his mind busy.

Sadly, prisoners (and the staff to a large extent) take people as they find them, they have to. It's not about what happened on the out. If he's being a prick inside, then it won't go down well. He is best just to befriend people and become part of the prison community. If he gains the respect of the prisoners (which can be done in the form of helping them read, or write etc... and just being generally a nice person) then he'll have a much easier ride as people will have his back, and that's a big deal in prisons.

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Reply #85 posted 11/25/19 11:47am

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maplenpg said:

poppys said:

^ Interesting firsthand information maplenpg.

Read about this yesterday. It would be easier to believe there was imminent danger if it were 6 doctors, not 60. Possibly a hyperbolic defense attorney stunt. It's hard to believe he can't get his teeth fixed without being moved, or his shoulder looked at. The mental problems could probably be a part of any jail experience, and he was reported to be deteriorating mentally in the Embassy before he went to jail. No doubt jail sucks, that's for sure.

Thanks Poppy biggrin

There is a prison dental workforce, just as there is a prison medical workforce so his shoulder and teeth are non-issues. As for your comment about mental health, given that around 70% of the prison population suffer from some sort of mental health issue, I think it is fair to say that mental health services are inadequate in UK jails.

To be honest, a lot will depend on if he's segregated or not. Mental health deteriorates much faster for those segregated long-term from others. He might choose to self-segregate (i.e. not leave his cell), or he may be segregated for his own safety (as I said, I would imagine he's on the medical wing, I would also guess he's been put with the VP's (vulnerable prisoners)). His best bet would be to engage with prison life. He is intelligent. He could work in education, or in the library. Keep his mind busy.

Sadly, prisoners (and the staff to a large extent) take people as they find them, they have to. It's not about what happened on the out. If he's being a prick inside, then it won't go down well. He is best just to befriend people and become part of the prison community. If he gains the respect of the prisoners (which can be done in the form of helping them read, or write etc... and just being generally a nice person) then he'll have a much easier ride as people will have his back, and that's a big deal in prisons.


Same here in the US. It varies state to state but it is all woefully bad. They don't treat mental health issues much, if at all. Even with juveniles.

I know there is mental deterioration when institutionalized, even in the hospital, and it doesn't take very long. Read studies about it years ago when my dad was in the hosp for over 40 days. He lost a lot of ground mentally, but got most of it back. So, Assange will have to try to help himself to keep his brain on track. He doesn't strike me as a really practical person, but there are all kinds of different survivors.

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This is good news, especially because the situation in Sweden sounded like a honey pot type of deal to me. Not saying he's innocent, but it sounds to me like they were using it to try and get him and that the charges were ones that it's hard to respond to other than to say "I didn't do it."

Either way, this is good. I hope he's able to get out of all this alive.

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