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Reply #30 posted 11/02/19 2:22pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Woke people are not far left, they are mainstream liberals who I fucking hate. I'm about revolutionary politics, not thumb sucking.




Lol. There is no way in hell liberals go for this. This is “progressives” and your far left cronies. lol
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Reply #31 posted 11/02/19 3:49pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Woke people are not far left, they are mainstream liberals who I fucking hate. I'm about revolutionary politics, not thumb sucking.

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And this is exaclty what Obama was outing - Feeling good about attacing the other person's group and, in the process, not being an activist and NOT bringing about real change.

[Edited 11/2/19 16:01pm]

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Reply #32 posted 11/02/19 6:48pm

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IanRG said:



2freaky4church1 said:


Woke people are not far left, they are mainstream liberals who I fucking hate. I'm about revolutionary politics, not thumb sucking.



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And this is exaclty what Obama was outing - Feeling good about attacing the other person's group and, in the process, not being an activist and NOT bringing about real change.

[Edited 11/2/19 16:01pm]


You called out people for being arm chair activists and at the same time called them out out for protesting against things that affect you and your privilege.
Well played, as usual you said a lot without saying anything at all.

You are scared of the status quo being challenged and some truths being revealed.





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[Edited 11/2/19 19:08pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #33 posted 11/02/19 6:52pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us...cid=msn360





Obama Helped Sow the Seeds of Cancel Culture



But perhaps the best example of how far to the left progressives have drifted from Obama's way of thinking is the ongoing spectacle of 2020 Democratic presidential candidates trying to out-woke each other. Beto O'Rourke, who'll apparently say anything in hopes of staying in the race, wants to tax churches and other religious institutions that oppose gay marriage. Julian Castro wants to give free health insurance to transgender illegal immigrants. Even former vice president Joe Biden, the so-called moderate in the race, has been forced to tack left, abandoning his long-held support for the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits federal funding for abortion.


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It's commonplace on Democratic debate stages for the candidates (and moderators) to refer to President Trump as a racist. The arguable frontrunner, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, told NPR in August that "when the white supremacists call Donald Trump one of their own, I tend to believe them."


It's hard to imagine Obama engaging in this sort of rhetoric. But then again, the seeds of cancel culture and leftist outrage were undoubtedly planted during his tenure in the White House. Back in 2012, for example, Obama would never have openly called Mitt Romney a racist. But he didn't have to because surrogates like Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz did it for him.


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Beyond race, it was Obama who popularized the idea that "the debate is over"—about health care, climate change, education, and much else. Arguably, "the debate is over" is now the mantra of the woke: if you disagree or offend, you get canceled.


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So it's all well and good that Obama is concerned about the corrosive effects of cancel culture and militant wokeness. He should be, as should we all. But his warnings and reprimands are a day late and a dollar short. The woke left isn't listening, not even to Obama. To them, the debate is over.



But Trump IS a RACIST, and should be called out on it in no uncertain terms. The issue is that when a non-White person (like Obama) would say something like that directly, many would automatically accuse them of "playing the race card ", or some such nonsense. The irony is that White People like Warren and Sanders and O'Rourke are actually freer to call out Trumps racism than a Black person is .


Yes, black identity extremists is the term.
When those who are most marginalized and oppress point out how they see and experience the world its an uncomfortable truth.
Because addressing the issues of those right at the bottom would revolutionize and bring down the system.
That includes those whom are system target and oppress in places like Haiti, The Congo, Venezuela and Yemen.




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[Edited 11/2/19 18:57pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #34 posted 11/02/19 6:59pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Woke people are not far left, they are mainstream liberals who I fucking hate. I'm about revolutionary politics, not thumb sucking.




Cornel West on the unpopular James Baldwin.

"No more water, but fire next time"

https://m.youtube.com/res...ular+james




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[Edited 11/2/19 19:07pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #35 posted 11/02/19 7:00pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Woke people are not far left, they are mainstream liberals who I fucking hate. I'm about revolutionary politics, not thumb sucking.



As Dr West said in the clip, mainstream liberals are about abstract hope, pacifying those they abuse, oppress and marginalize.
Be a hope.





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[Edited 11/2/19 19:18pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #36 posted 11/02/19 7:40pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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And this is exaclty what Obama was outing - Feeling good about attacing the other person's group and, in the process, not being an activist and NOT bringing about real change.

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You called out people for being arm chair activists and at the same time called them out out for protesting against things that affect you and your privilege. Well played, as usual you said a lot without saying anything at all. You are scared of the status quo being challenged and some truths being revealed.

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Nonsense

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Reply #37 posted 11/02/19 8:04pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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And this is exaclty what Obama was outing - Feeling good about attacing the other person's group and, in the process, not being an activist and NOT bringing about real change.


[Edited 11/2/19 16:01pm]



You called out people for being arm chair activists and at the same time called them out out for protesting against things that affect you and your privilege. Well played, as usual you said a lot without saying anything at all. You are scared of the status quo being challenged and some truths being revealed.

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Nonsense


You said
"The current trend is that those who are genuinely woke see the fickle nature of woke wannabes and they get frustrated and this is leading to disruption protests just to get attention. Too often these turn off the mainstream and the activism fails."

This is ridiculous.
This is like when those associated with the australian labor party told people to strike after school and after work hours.
That's not how it works.



"Mainstream" is code for middle-class and upper class white folk.
"Far left" is code for issues that affect everyone else.



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[Edited 11/2/19 20:07pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #38 posted 11/02/19 8:16pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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Nonsense

You said "The current trend is that those who are genuinely woke see the fickle nature of woke wannabes and they get frustrated and this is leading to disruption protests just to get attention. Too often these turn off the mainstream and the activism fails." This is ridiculous. This is like when those associated with the australian labor party told people to strike after school and after work hours. That's not how it works. "Mainstream" is code for middle-class and upper class white folk. "Far left" is code for issues that affect everyone else. . [Edited 11/2/19 20:07pm]

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Nonsense.

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And as it is reliant on misinterpretations, assumptions and imagined code words - errant nonsense.

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I am woke to you: I trust your armchair pretend radicalism continues to give you a feeling of superiority and achievement. In the meantime I will continue to work on real activism and for real change without being totally reliant on the need to attack people on the basis of their assumed race, class and politics.

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Reply #39 posted 11/02/19 8:51pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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Nonsense



You said "The current trend is that those who are genuinely woke see the fickle nature of woke wannabes and they get frustrated and this is leading to disruption protests just to get attention. Too often these turn off the mainstream and the activism fails." This is ridiculous. This is like when those associated with the australian labor party told people to strike after school and after work hours. That's not how it works. "Mainstream" is code for middle-class and upper class white folk. "Far left" is code for issues that affect everyone else. . [Edited 11/2/19 20:07pm]

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Nonsense.


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And as it is reliant on misinterpretations, assumptions and imagined code words - errant nonsense.


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I am woke to you: I trust your armchair pretend radicalism continues to give you a feeling of superiority and achievement. In the meantime I will continue to work on real activism and for real change without being totally reliant on the need to attack people on the basis of their assumed race, class and politics.


What makes you say I'm an arm chair radical/ activist?
I'm not assuming about your politics, you made it clear many times.
Your race is insignificant based on your politics and views.
You support white supramacy, Western imperialism and capitalism,
which are all the same thing. that's all I need to know.


You have also said some outright racist things in relation to slavery and black people, by conflating british convict settlers in Australia to african-slaves and indigenous australian slaves, but that's another story.





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[Edited 11/2/19 21:13pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #40 posted 11/02/19 9:23pm

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I can assume you are probably a Richard Branson type of activist.
You support the impoverishment of black and brown people.
You support sanctions and policies that impoverish people but enriches yourself.
You then likely post pictures of yourself or others handing out food and medicine that was purchased with the same money that was stolen from them.


Pure genius.




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[Edited 11/2/19 21:37pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #41 posted 11/02/19 9:36pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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Nonsense.

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And as it is reliant on misinterpretations, assumptions and imagined code words - errant nonsense.

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I am woke to you: I trust your armchair pretend radicalism continues to give you a feeling of superiority and achievement. In the meantime I will continue to work on real activism and for real change without being totally reliant on the need to attack people on the basis of their assumed race, class and politics.

What makes you say I'm an arm chair radical/ activist?

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Your lack of activism.

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Reply #42 posted 11/02/19 9:38pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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Nonsense.


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And as it is reliant on misinterpretations, assumptions and imagined code words - errant nonsense.


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I am woke to you: I trust your armchair pretend radicalism continues to give you a feeling of superiority and achievement. In the meantime I will continue to work on real activism and for real change without being totally reliant on the need to attack people on the basis of their assumed race, class and politics.



What makes you say I'm an arm chair radical/ activist?

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Your lack of activism.



But you don't know me, right?



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[Edited 11/2/19 21:38pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #43 posted 11/02/19 9:38pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

I can assume you are probably a Richard Brandon type of activist. You support the impoverishment of black and brown people. You support sanctions and policies that impoverish people but enriches yourself. You then likely post pictures of yourself or others handing out food and medicine that was purchased with the same money that was stolen from them. Pure genius. . [Edited 11/2/19 21:35pm]

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More lies. More pretend armchair radicalism. And still no activism and no real change.

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Reply #44 posted 11/02/19 9:39pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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Your lack of activism.

But you don't know me, right? . [Edited 11/2/19 21:38pm]

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I am fully woke to you.

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Reply #45 posted 11/02/19 9:39pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


I can assume you are probably a Richard Brandon type of activist. You support the impoverishment of black and brown people. You support sanctions and policies that impoverish people but enriches yourself. You then likely post pictures of yourself or others handing out food and medicine that was purchased with the same money that was stolen from them. Pure genius. . [Edited 11/2/19 21:35pm]

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More lies. More pretend armchair radicalism. And still no activism and no real change.


Facts.

But you don't know me, right?



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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #46 posted 11/02/19 9:47pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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Your lack of activism.



But you don't know me, right? . [Edited 11/2/19 21:38pm]

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I am fully woke to you.



But you don't know me though, right?




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[Edited 11/2/19 21:47pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #47 posted 11/02/19 9:48pm

IanRG

hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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More lies. More pretend armchair radicalism. And still no activism and no real change.

Facts. But you don't know me, right?

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This was in reply to you saying "I can assume you are probably".

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Assumptions and probabilities are not facts, they are the tools of pretend armchair radical. This is just another example of the types things you are known to get wrong.

[Edited 11/2/19 21:52pm]

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Reply #48 posted 11/02/19 9:54pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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More lies. More pretend armchair radicalism. And still no activism and no real change.



Facts. But you don't know me, right?

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This was in reply to you saying "I can assume you are probably".


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Assumptions and probablies are not facts, they are the tools of pretend armchair radical. This is just another example of the types things you are known to get wrong.



Oh, you are making "Assumptions and probablities", isn't that another way of saying you are a conspiracy theorist?
I state facts, you should try it sometime.

Your political ideology is completely based on lies.
From start to finish, all lies.

I also dont think you are ignorant, its clear you are fully aware your ideology is perpetuated by lies. your intentions to mislead others knowing you are spreading lies is what makes what you are doing even worse.






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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #49 posted 11/02/19 10:02pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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This was in reply to you saying "I can assume you are probably".

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Assumptions and probablies are not facts, they are the tools of pretend armchair radical. This is just another example of the types things you are known to get wrong.

Oh, you are making "Assumptions and probablities" about me.

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No YOU said "I can assume you are probably".

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The rest is just you seeking to feel you are more than an airchair pretend radical by attacking people rather than doing any real activism or achieving any real change.

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Reply #50 posted 11/02/19 10:18pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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This was in reply to you saying "I can assume you are probably".


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Assumptions and probablies are not facts, they are the tools of pretend armchair radical. This is just another example of the types things you are known to get wrong.



Oh, you are making "Assumptions and probablities" about me.

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No YOU said "I can assume you are probably".


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The rest is just you seeking to feel you are more than an airchair pretend radical by attacking people rather than doing any real activism or achieving any real change.



Your political ideology is completely based on lies.
From start to finish, all lies.

The most important thing here is its clear you are not ignorant about what you are saying.
Its clear you are fully aware you're are spreading lies. your intentions to mislead others knowing you are spreading lies is what makes what you are doing even worse.



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Reply #51 posted 11/02/19 10:27pm

IanRG

hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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No YOU said "I can assume you are probably".

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The rest is just you seeking to feel you are more than an airchair pretend radical by attacking people rather than doing any real activism or achieving any real change.

Your political ideology is completely based on lies. From start to finish, all lies. The most important thing is I also dont think you are ignorant about what you are saying. Its clear you are fully aware your ideology is perpetuated by lies. your intentions to mislead others knowing you are spreading lies is what makes what you are doing even worse. . [Edited 11/2/19 22:20pm]

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Thank you for demonstrating, yet again, that Obama is right - there are too many people that think they are superior to those they disagree with and they feel that they have achieved something from their armchairs by attacking those they feel so superior to.

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This is the ineffective woke-ness he was talking about.

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What you do is NOT activism and it does work for real change.

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Reply #52 posted 11/02/19 10:44pm

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IanRG said:



hausofmoi7 said:


IanRG said:


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No YOU said "I can assume you are probably".


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The rest is just you seeking to feel you are more than an airchair pretend radical by attacking people rather than doing any real activism or achieving any real change.



Your political ideology is completely based on lies. From start to finish, all lies. The most important thing is I also dont think you are ignorant about what you are saying. Its clear you are fully aware your ideology is perpetuated by lies. your intentions to mislead others knowing you are spreading lies is what makes what you are doing even worse. . [Edited 11/2/19 22:20pm]

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Thank you for demonstrating, yet again, that Obama is right - there are too many people that think they are superior to those they disagree with and they feel that they have achieved something from their armchairs by attacking those they feel so superior to.


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This is the ineffective woke-ness he was talking about.


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What you do is NOT activism and it does work for real change.


Ofcourse you wouldnt think that supporting and participating in protests opposing sanctions against Venezuela and the assassination of activists by the C.I.A and Colombia in rural Venezuela, or protests in support of Julian Assange are worthy causes or real forms of actvism.
Because these things are a direct threat to your privilege and ideology.

And FYI I wasn't in an armchair, I was in 4 inch heels.





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Reply #53 posted 11/02/19 10:46pm

IanRG

hausofmoi7 said:

IanRG said:

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Thank you for demonstrating, yet again, that Obama is right - there are too many people that think they are superior to those they disagree with and they feel that they have achieved something from their armchairs by attacking those they feel so superior to.

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This is the ineffective woke-ness he was talking about.

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What you do is NOT activism and it does work for real change.

Ofcourse you wouldnt think supporting and participating in protests in support of Venezuela and Julian Assange are worthy causes. These things are a threat to your privilege.

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Off topic nonsense

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Reply #54 posted 11/03/19 10:49am

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MLK was far left so there

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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