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An African American security guard asked a student to not call him the n-word. That request got him fired

I've read of this happening a lot in school disctricts.

There is a difference when someone says it racially(even as a term of endearment) <-neither should be allowed in school and I'm glad vs someone saying it within perspective.

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/...8mAQYV8C_w

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(CNN)An African American security guard told a student to stop calling him the n-word. It cost him his job.

Marlon Anderson was a security guard at Madison West High School in Wisconsin. Last Wednesday, he was called in to help the assistant principal escort a student from school grounds, he told CNN.
The student was resisting, including yelling and pushing the principal. Anderson called for backup, and the student started yelling expletives at him, including the racial slur, Anderson said.
At first, Anderson said he asked the student to stop calling him that, without saying the word. But the student continued to call him different variations of the word.
Finally, Anderson said he responded: "Don't call me (n-word)."
That's the comment that got him fired.

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What a disgrace. Fucking hypocrites.

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This immediately popped into my mind

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The dude already got his job back, as he should have.

And it's no surprise that POS media outlet known as CNN refused to mention in their article the important detail that the student is also African American. I'm sure they were hoping many jumped to the wrong conclusion by assuming the student was not.

The CNN "reporters" names are Leah Asmelash and Sheena Jones. Look 'em up if you want to call them out on this.

But of course CNN has never been known for wasting an opportunity to further enflame racial tensions.

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[Edited 10/22/19 1:17am]

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Yeah I knew that the student of of African descent when 1. they did not say the students race 2. The way the security officer Marlon Anderson, described the way it was coming at him. Knee jerk mechanical reactions usually out of fear...

Pokeno4Money said:

The dude already got his job back, as he should have.

And it's no surprise that POS media outlet known as CNN refused to mention in their article the important detail that the student is also African American. I'm sure they were hoping many jumped to the wrong conclusion by assuming the student was not.

The CNN "reporters" names are Leah Asmelash and Sheena Jones. Look 'em up if you want to call them out on this.

But of course CNN has never been known for wasting an opportunity to further enflame racial tensions.

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[Edited 10/22/19 1:17am]

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Black security officer who was fired for repeating racial slur gets job backTim Stelloh

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp

A black security officer in Wisconsin who was fired after telling a black student not to call him the N-word has gotten his job back, officials said Monday.

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The firing of Marlon Anderson was reversed after student protests and a grievance was filed last week by Anderson's union with his school district in Madison.

District supervisor Jane Belmore did not explicitly say why the firing was rescinded in a statement Monday, but she said the district had "heard from our community and grappled" with how "to live up to the commitments we've made to be allies with our students and be an anti-racist school district."

She added that she was "prepared to take appropriate steps in the current situation" and "mitigate any harm that was caused."

Anderson celebrated on Facebook, saying: "I'm back!!"

He added that he would remain on paid administrative leave while his return to the district was negotiated.

Anderson had worked with the Madison Metropolitan School District for 11 years when he was fired. He told NBC News that school officials terminated him because of a zero-tolerance policy on the use of derogatory language by district staff.

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This part below is the problem. A problem with the allowence of the N word as a (term of endearment) being used in public in music and general discussion. I hope Mr Anderson really thinks hard about this as well. That he did not what this kid to call him that, tell me he probably doesn't like it at all and from none one.

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Anderson has said that after a black student repeatedly called him a n-----, he asked the student to stop, using the same language.

"My understanding of the policy was white staff shouldn't use the N-word under any circumstances," Anderson said. "But I had no idea me being called the word and me telling the student not to call me the word would get me fired."

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MADISON, Wis. – A high school security guard in Madison, Wisconsin got his job back Monday after outrage over his termination spread across the country, prompting school district officials to overturn their decision to fire him for saying the N-word while urging a student not to call him the racial slur.

Marlon Anderson told supporters Monday his termination from the Madison School District was rescinded, five days after he was fired over the episode that drew outcry from thousands – including the former U.S. secretary of education and superstar Cher.

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The dude already got his job back, as he should have.

And it's no surprise that POS media outlet known as CNN refused to mention in their article the important detail that the student is also African American. I'm sure they were hoping many jumped to the wrong conclusion by assuming the student was not.

The CNN "reporters" names are Leah Asmelash and Sheena Jones. Look 'em up if you want to call them out on this.

But of course CNN has never been known for wasting an opportunity to further enflame racial tensions.

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[Edited 10/22/19 1:17am]

It doesn´t really make a big difference to me whether the student was black or white. That student showed a severe lack of respect and discipline. He used the racial slur repeatedly and that security guard told him several times not to use that word, and he still used it. It´s cool that the guy got his job back but would he have gotten his job back if there hadn´t been an outrage? Aren´t you turning this into a racial issue , too, by pointing out that the authors of the article are black ?

Not judging you but isn´t that a bit of a contradiction?

Then again, I am really not aware of CNN creating racial tension, so maybe you know something I don´t ?

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so to some obviously it matters who says the n-word and which race the person belongs to...

the real racists always expose themselves sooner or later

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Yeah I knew that the student of of African descent when 1. they did not say the students race 2. The way the security officer Marlon Anderson, described the way it was coming at him. Knee jerk mechanical reactions usually out of fear...

Yup. And when I forwarded the CNN article to 8 different friends/family, and I intentionally removed the names of the two writers before I sent it, 6 of the 8 guessed it was written by WOC and the other two recipients guessed MOC. Needless to say, the two writers aren't exactly helping the cause.

It's just really frustrating when you have people who not only don't want racial tensions to subside, but they actually willfully contribute to racial tensions by writing deceptive articles such as that.

Thank you for also posting the MSN article that immediately identifies the student as similar in color.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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OldFriends4Sale said:

This part below is the problem. A problem with the allowence of the N word as a (term of endearment) being used in public in music and general discussion. I hope Mr Anderson really thinks hard about this as well. That he did not what this kid to call him that, tell me he probably doesn't like it at all and from none one.


I agree 100% with you.

However in this instance, I'm not so sure it was used by the student as a term of endearment. At least not after Mr. Anderson's first request to stop calling him that. I think once the student learned Mr. Anderson didn't like the word, the student decided to continue using it as a way to taunt Mr. Anderson and piss him off.

[Edited 10/22/19 14:58pm]

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Pokeno4Money said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This part below is the problem. A problem with the allowence of the N word as a (term of endearment) being used in public in music and general discussion. I hope Mr Anderson really thinks hard about this as well. That he did not what this kid to call him that, tell me he probably doesn't like it at all and from none one.


I agree 100% with you.

However in this instance, I'm not so sure it was used by the student as a term of endearment. At least not after Mr. Anderson's first request to stop calling him that. I think once the student learned Mr. Anderson didn't like the word, the student decided to continue using it as a way to taunt Mr. Anderson and piss him off.

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Oh that is the problem. The original justification for using the word was a 'term of endearment' to call other black people 'ni&&a' and to take the sting from the word. It's almost 2020 and I don't think the sting has lessened. Back in the 80s it was used in particular company. It wasn't said openly and not in music like we started hearing in 1990s rap. Now there are no boundaries.

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It is a contentious slang and like sagging, needs to be retired once and for all. When people call each other that like in this situation or in a fight etc it is not a 'term of endearment' but said with the original intent that ends with ....er.

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KoolEaze said:

Pokeno4Money said:

The dude already got his job back, as he should have.

And it's no surprise that POS media outlet known as CNN refused to mention in their article the important detail that the student is also African American. I'm sure they were hoping many jumped to the wrong conclusion by assuming the student was not.

The CNN "reporters" names are Leah Asmelash and Sheena Jones. Look 'em up if you want to call them out on this.

But of course CNN has never been known for wasting an opportunity to further enflame racial tensions.

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[Edited 10/22/19 1:17am]

It doesn´t really make a big difference to me whether the student was black or white. That student showed a severe lack of respect and discipline. He used the racial slur repeatedly and that security guard told him several times not to use that word, and he still used it. It´s cool that the guy got his job back but would he have gotten his job back if there hadn´t been an outrage? Aren´t you turning this into a racial issue , too, by pointing out that the authors of the article are black ?

Not judging you but isn´t that a bit of a contradiction?

Then again, I am really not aware of CNN creating racial tension, so maybe you know something I don´t ?

Because it's nonsense....So you won't hear any rational person saying it

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KoolEaze said:

It doesn´t really make a big difference to me whether the student was black or white. That student showed a severe lack of respect and discipline. He used the racial slur repeatedly and that security guard told him several times not to use that word, and he still used it. It´s cool that the guy got his job back but would he have gotten his job back if there hadn´t been an outrage? Aren´t you turning this into a racial issue , too, by pointing out that the authors of the article are black ?

Not judging you but isn´t that a bit of a contradiction?

Then again, I am really not aware of CNN creating racial tension, so maybe you know something I don´t ?

Because it's nonsense....So you won't hear any rational person saying it

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KoolEaze said:

Then again, I am really not aware of CNN creating racial tension, so maybe you know something I don´t ?

Because it's nonsense....So you won't hear any rational person saying it

what? did you miss the looong list of such incidents listed by Pokemon to justifiy his defamation claim?

oh wait... I missed it too...

how come?

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OldFriends4Sale said:



Pokeno4Money said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




This part below is the problem. A problem with the allowence of the N word as a (term of endearment) being used in public in music and general discussion. I hope Mr Anderson really thinks hard about this as well. That he did not what this kid to call him that, tell me he probably doesn't like it at all and from none one.




I agree 100% with you.

However in this instance, I'm not so sure it was used by the student as a term of endearment. At least not after Mr. Anderson's first request to stop calling him that. I think once the student learned Mr. Anderson didn't like the word, the student decided to continue using it as a way to taunt Mr. Anderson and piss him off.


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Oh that is the problem. The original justification for using the word was a 'term of endearment' to call other black people 'ni&&a' and to take the sting from the word. It's almost 2020 and I don't think the sting has lessened. Back in the 80s it was used in particular company. It wasn't said openly and not in music like we started hearing in 1990s rap. Now there are no boundaries.


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It is a contentious slang and like sagging, needs to be retired once and for all. When people call each other that like in this situation or in a fight etc it is not a 'term of endearment' but said with the original intent that ends with ....er.



That word has been dropped in music since the mid 80s at least. Even Prince used it copiously as seen on Love or Money and Cloreen Bacon Skin.

I don't think it's going anywhere.
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jjhunsecker said:

Because it's nonsense....So you won't hear any rational person saying it

what? did you miss the looong list of such incidents listed by Pokemon to justifiy his defamation claim?

oh wait... I missed it too...

how come?

I'm also willing to bet that not a single other person on here has given an article to 8 different friends/family and asked them to guess what gender and race the author was.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Oh that is the problem. The original justification for using the word was a 'term of endearment' to call other black people 'ni&&a' and to take the sting from the word. It's almost 2020 and I don't think the sting has lessened. Back in the 80s it was used in particular company. It wasn't said openly and not in music like we started hearing in 1990s rap. Now there are no boundaries.

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It is a contentious slang and like sagging, needs to be retired once and for all. When people call each other that like in this situation or in a fight etc it is not a 'term of endearment' but said with the original intent that ends with ....er.

That word has been dropped in music since the mid 80s at least. Even Prince used it copiously as seen on Love or Money and Cloreen Bacon Skin. I don't think it's going anywhere.

not like in the 90s onward

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The Love or Money part is a bootleg, not the released version

And I doubt most people have heard Cloreen Bacon Skin(released on a compilation vis Prince's defunct website)

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The word can be made to have artists not use it on records. $$ talks. The same way a non Black person cannot use it on records.

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But moreso I'm talking about something to change the use of it is general discourse. That kid who used it toward the securtiy guard should have some kind of discipline. It should not be used in School-grounds/bus/activities and if it is like anyone else there is a penalty for it.

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Education of the origins of the slur. And then let parents know what is happening and going to happen. Follow the rules.

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what? did you miss the looong list of such incidents listed by Pokemon to justifiy his defamation claim?

oh wait... I missed it too...

how come?


I'm also willing to bet that not a single other person on here has given an article to 8 different friends/family and asked them to guess what gender and race the author was.

lol thumbs up!

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BombSquad said:




jjhunsecker said:




Because it's nonsense....So you won't hear any rational person saying it




what? did you miss the looong list of such incidents listed by Pokemon to justifiy his defamation claim?

oh wait... I missed it too...

how come?



I'm also willing to bet that not a single other person on here has given an article to 8 different friends/family and asked them to guess what gender and race the author was.



I guess because most of us have better things to do with our time
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Is a word a "racial slur " if it is used by one member of a race against another person of the same race? Isn't the intent of a "racial slur " to demean or attack someone for inherent characteristics that the person using the words believes is inferior to themselves because of said characteristics?
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Is a word a "racial slur " if it is used by one member of a race against another person of the same race? Isn't the intent of a "racial slur " to demean or attack someone for inherent characteristics that the person using the words believes is inferior to themselves because of said characteristics?

If a woman calls another woman a bitch a hoe a hefer a sow isn't it to anger the other, put them in an inferior place? Because maybe they believe it is?

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If someone of the same ethnicity uses it toward another of the same ethnicity, it is still a verbal assault to anger the person and demean the person. If someone you didn't know who was black/latinx, came up to you and called you a 'ni&&a' or a 'sp!c', would that cause you to be on defense and cause a level of heightened anger?

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what? did you miss the looong list of such incidents listed by Pokemon to justifiy his defamation claim?

oh wait... I missed it too...

how come?

Yes, two egregious examples isn't enough.

I will devote an hour of my time preparing 50 detailed examples of CNN pouring gasoline on the fire.

And after thoroughly reading all 50 detailed examples, I am sure you and the usual suspects will display your great character and impeccable integrity by acknowledging CNN's history of inflammatory reporting and blatant race baiting.

Because you have a lengthy and well-documented reputation for mea culpas when others invest time and effort supporting whatever it is you are denying at the time.

I'll get right on that for you ..... rolleyes







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"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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If someone of the same ethnicity uses it toward another of the same ethnicity, it is still a verbal assault to anger the person and demean the person.


Precisely. The student continued to call Mr. Anderson the N-word even after Mr. Anderson told him not to call him that, because the student wanted to continue insulting and angering Mr. Anderson.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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OldFriends4Sale said:



jjhunsecker said:


Is a word a "racial slur " if it is used by one member of a race against another person of the same race? Isn't the intent of a "racial slur " to demean or attack someone for inherent characteristics that the person using the words believes is inferior to themselves because of said characteristics?



If a woman calls another woman a bitch a hoe a hefer a sow isn't it to anger the other, put them in an inferior place? Because maybe they believe it is?


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If someone of the same ethnicity uses it toward another of the same ethnicity, it is still a verbal assault to anger the person and demean the person. If someone you didn't know who was black/latinx, came up to you and called you a 'ni&&a' or a 'sp!c', would that cause you to be on defense and cause a level of heightened anger?




I personally would not be insulted if another Black person called me the so-called "N word"... perhaps because in essence they are one too. There is no sense of "superiority " based strictly on ethnicity involved. (And there's the brilliant Chris Rock routine "Black people vs. N****rs"- one of the funniest and most insightful bits of social commentary ever).

But that's just my opinion. Others might and probably feel otherwise.
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But didn't the people who fired and eventually rehired him say something to the effect that this was a very "nuanced " situation, where perhaps a "no tolerance " policy is not adequate to address the situation?

In other words, one Black person using the so-called "N word" to another Black person may be different in nature than a non-Black person using that word
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