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Reply #30 posted 10/16/19 11:17am

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poppys said:


Why is almost everything in the post whited out, and then only part of a sentence used to make a point? This kind of response is too reductive to be evaluated in the discussion. It's like using a soundbite or meme to answer something much more complex, rendering it fairly meaningless.

was wondering when you were going to show up...

Why do you need to know.

Can you read what is 'grayed'? If I wanted it whited out you wouldn't see it.
Simply and plainly because the part that is not 'grayed' is the part my response is focused on.
Just as if you bolded something to reply to.

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Why are you problematic? JJ can deal with JJ, I don't need you running interference and getting in my lane and then crying that you think I'm going to ban you. If you weren't busy being problematic. You would be able to look and see that the dark part is what I directly replied to. Keep trolling.


Okay. You "win". Happy now?

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Reply #31 posted 10/16/19 11:32am

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Again and again the argument that "both sides" are really exactly the same on so many issues when they're not the same. I don't get it. It's as if discernment has no meaning, everything anyone thinks carries the same weight. But in real life it doesn't.

If you don't understand how arrogance can be on either side, any belief, etc then I understand why YOU said 'politics does not divide'...


I never said I do not understand how arrogance can be on either side. You implied that I said that. Not true.

To repeat - I think politics is a bridge to other islands that otherwise have no bridge. The off-chance that you may be able to talk to somebody through diplomacy before killing or bombing the shit out of them.

Politics do not divide is a reductive form of my thought. Why constantly criticize? You seem to be a fan of reduction in other instances.

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Reply #32 posted 10/16/19 11:38am

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jjhunsecker said:


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And there are those on the Left (who are black) who consider you that too



I doubt that. The only ones would be socially conservative highly religious Black people, who may not be accurately described as being on the Left. And they probably wouldn't hate me like a Trump supporter (or many White conservatives) would hate me. The religious Black people would probably just think I needed to spend more time in Church and praising Jesus [Edited 10/16/19 6:39am]


LOL well you don't get tha many black folk who are left and vote Dem think abortion is wrong and and supporting gay's is an abomination


what do you think the NOI thinks of those issues?


Professor Griff and all the conspiracy/illuminatti believers site homosexual sex rites as why famous people of African ancestry especially in music and acting got that way.
They say that Quincy Jones bends black men over to get them a record deal.


Woke up JJ


It's pretty clear you misunderstood what I was saying; I clearly stated that there are many socially conservative Black people who have issues with abortion and gay rights. Not only do I know people like that, but have some in my own family! But they don't hate other Black people with different views, we just disagree. I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't call me a "Black Bastard "...

And Professor Griff ?? The NOI ?? Do you have any examples relevant since 1992 !?


(And I don't know WTF that reference to Quincy Jones is all about...)
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Reply #33 posted 10/16/19 11:45am

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poppys said:




OldFriends4Sale said:






Yes, it is a very dangerous place. And they don't realize how nazi-ish it is looking




Exactly.

Can Someone Be Fired for Being Gay? The Supreme Court Will Decide

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As I SAID before, two sides of arrogance and self righteousness.



Teachers get fired, if they use read or use the N word in an academic setting. People get 'outraged' teacher looses job.
Yes it is happening and it comes from the LEFT


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And as of right now, That which you posted is not happening. Open your eyes. Black folk are the leaders in anti-gay progress. And the majority of them call themselves 'left'. wake up.


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Woke black folk are at arms about abortion being the genocide of black people.


And homosexuality (an white devils invention) is to destroy the black man and family


wake up


And it is black folk that mainly called President Obama 'the Gay President'


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When 'Black Lives Matter' Is Invoked in the Abortion Debate


Those seeking to outlaw abortion lament what they see as an undoing of the fabric of black families. They liken the high abortion rates among black women to a cultural genocide, and sometimes raise the specter of eugenics and population control when discussing abortion rights


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Condemnation of homosexuality in the black community: a gender-specific phenomenon?


Greater relative endorsement was found of the proposition by blacks confirming the hypothesis that less social tolerance of homosexuality exists in the black community. Analyses of gender, educational achievement, religious preference, and marital status revealed that the racial difference in condemnation of homosexuality was derived almost exclusively from a difference in attitude between black and white females. The primary source of this difference may stem from the black female perception that homosexuality exacerbates the developing problem of a decreasing pool of available black males


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Crunching The Numbers On Blacks' Views On Gays


"Homophobia in the black community — indeed, even among the leaders of the civil rights movement of the 1960s — was some of the most virulent and stubborn of all, and there are still some who resent the equation of the gay rights movement with their struggle," wrote Charles P. Pierce at Salon.1


Lewis looked at a bunch of polls and found that trend speeding way up. "When I look at 28 polls back from 2004, at that point blacks were about six points less likely than whites to support same-sex marriage."



This is because many Black people are very "religious". How different is those views from that of Orthodox or Hassidic Jews, or conservative Muslims, or White Evangelical "born again " Christians ? I'd be certain, not very much... because none of the groups I referenced are particularly "pro gay". As usual, religion is behind a lot of intolerance
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Reply #34 posted 10/16/19 11:58am

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jjhunsecker said:


OldFriends4Sale said:



And there are those on the Left (who are black) who consider you that too



I doubt that. The only ones would be socially conservative highly religious Black people, who may not be accurately described as being on the Left. And they probably wouldn't hate me like a Trump supporter (or many White conservatives) would hate me. The religious Black people would probably just think I needed to spend more time in Church and praising Jesus [Edited 10/16/19 6:39am]


LOL well you don't get tha many black folk who are left and vote Dem think abortion is wrong and and supporting gay's is an abomination


what do you think the NOI thinks of those issues?


Professor Griff and all the conspiracy/illuminatti believers site homosexual sex rites as why famous people of African ancestry especially in music and acting got that way.
They say that Quincy Jones bends black men over to get them a record deal.


Woke up JJ



And another thing you seem not to grasp is that these socially conservative Black people are not necessarily "Leftists ", as most understand the term. They generally vote for Democrats because theyfeel that the Republicans are racist and have demonized them ( from Nixon's Southern Strategy to Reagan's "Welfare Queens " to Willie Horton to "birtherism")... These people feel more comfortable in the Democratic Party for that reason, not because they agreed with everything in the Party platform
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Reply #35 posted 10/16/19 12:04pm

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Here's a HUGE party difference. The Republican party will not vote for women to have equal pay for equal work. Democrats would pass that. Why don't Republicans want half of the population to be equal in the workplace???

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Reply #36 posted 10/16/19 12:31pm

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Here's a HUGE party difference. The Republican party will not vote for women to have equal pay for equal work. Democrats would pass that. Why don't Republicans want half of the population to be equal in the workplace???

Is that an example of 'hate'?

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Reply #37 posted 10/16/19 5:17pm

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Here's a HUGE party difference. The Republican party will not vote for women to have equal pay for equal work. Democrats would pass that. Why don't Republicans want half of the population to be equal in the workplace???


The Republican party hates any progressive initiatives that involve the elevation of women and minorities in society. They have never ever championed these kinds of causes.

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Reply #38 posted 10/16/19 5:39pm

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poppys said:

Here's a HUGE party difference. The Republican party will not vote for women to have equal pay for equal work. Democrats would pass that. Why don't Republicans want half of the population to be equal in the workplace???

Is that an example of 'hate'?


It's an example of hating less.

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Reply #39 posted 10/17/19 5:53am

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The LEFT rules with 'outrage' get a bunch of non thinking people to react. No one thinks anything out. There is a huge spirit of manipulation and Fear behind that.

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actress Gina Rodriquez now has to apologize to singing to a Fugees song where 'Lauren Hill' says ni&&a, and so now there is outrage that she sang it.
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From growing up Puerto Ricans always said that term, in similar fashion that some black folk did.

Why the outrage.

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And why should she have to apologize for saying Black American women get paid more than Latinx women?

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The outrage and sensitivity on the LEFT is equally as pussified as the sensitivity on the RIGHT. And both are self righteous. The left tends to go further than trying to legislate action. They try to legislate thought.

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Gina has ignited firestorms before. Early this year while speaking to Net-a-Porter, the "Jane the Virgin" star said black women were paid more than Latinx. She later apologized live on a radio show.

"The backlash was devastating to say the least," she said while getting emotional. "The black community was the only community I looked to growing up. We didn't have that many Latino shows, so the black community made me feel like I was seen, so to get anti-black is saying that I'm anti-family."

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The actress said her father is Afro-Latino.

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"If anything, the black community is my community. When I speak about Latino advocacy, people think I'm only talking about people who are my skin color, but little do they know that I'm very aware of what my culture is," she continued. "I know my intention. The last thing I'd want to do is put two underrepresented groups against each other."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp

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Reply #40 posted 10/17/19 7:32am

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The LEFT rules with 'outrage' get a bunch of non thinking people to react. No one thinks anything out. There is a huge spirit of manipulation and Fear behind that.


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actress Gina Rodriquez now has to apologize to singing to a Fugees song where 'Lauren Hill' says ni&&a, and so now there is outrage that she sang it.
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From growing up Puerto Ricans always said that term, in similar fashion that some black folk did.


Why the outrage.


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And why should she have to apologize for saying Black American women get paid more than Latinx women?


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The outrage and sensitivity on the LEFT is equally as pussified as the sensitivity on the RIGHT. And both are self righteous. The left tends to go further than trying to legislate action. They try to legislate thought.


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Gina has ignited firestorms before. Early this year while speaking to Net-a-Porter, the "Jane the Virgin" star said black women were paid more than Latinx. She later apologized live on a radio show.


"The backlash was devastating to say the least," she said while getting emotional. "The black community was the only community I looked to growing up. We didn't have that many Latino shows, so the black community made me feel like I was seen, so to get anti-black is saying that I'm anti-family."


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The actress said her father is Afro-Latino.


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"If anything, the black community is my community. When I speak about Latino advocacy, people think I'm only talking about people who are my skin color, but little do they know that I'm very aware of what my culture is," she continued. "I know my intention. The last thing I'd want to do is put two underrepresented groups against each other."



http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp


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Hearing Latinos using the so-called "N word" never exactly sat that well with me. Why can't they call each other "s**cs" instead? And I say that as one who is part Latino myself.
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Reply #41 posted 10/17/19 8:22am

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jjhunsecker said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The LEFT rules with 'outrage' get a bunch of non thinking people to react. No one thinks anything out. There is a huge spirit of manipulation and Fear behind that.

.

actress Gina Rodriquez now has to apologize to singing to a Fugees song where 'Lauren Hill' says ni&&a, and so now there is outrage that she sang it.
.
From growing up Puerto Ricans always said that term, in similar fashion that some black folk did.

Why the outrage.

.

And why should she have to apologize for saying Black American women get paid more than Latinx women?

.

The outrage and sensitivity on the LEFT is equally as pussified as the sensitivity on the RIGHT. And both are self righteous. The left tends to go further than trying to legislate action. They try to legislate thought.

.

.

Gina has ignited firestorms before. Early this year while speaking to Net-a-Porter, the "Jane the Virgin" star said black women were paid more than Latinx. She later apologized live on a radio show.

"The backlash was devastating to say the least," she said while getting emotional. "The black community was the only community I looked to growing up. We didn't have that many Latino shows, so the black community made me feel like I was seen, so to get anti-black is saying that I'm anti-family."

.

The actress said her father is Afro-Latino.

.

"If anything, the black community is my community. When I speak about Latino advocacy, people think I'm only talking about people who are my skin color, but little do they know that I'm very aware of what my culture is," she continued. "I know my intention. The last thing I'd want to do is put two underrepresented groups against each other."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp

N Hearing Latinos using the so-called "N word" never exactly sat that well with me. Why can't they call each other "s**cs" instead? And I say that as one who is part Latino myself.

Well Black folk 1/2 claim latinx people, so can Mariah Carey use it? How about Vanessa Williams?
I mean where does the line get drawn?
If artists want people to buy $$ the music, but people get outraged if someone is singing along to a song/rap that includes the N word, there is some sense of serious confusion.

Gina was singing alon to a Lauren Hill song.


The outrage about this stuff is quite hypocritical.

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Reply #42 posted 10/17/19 8:31am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



jjhunsecker said:


OldFriends4Sale said:



The LEFT rules with 'outrage' get a bunch of non thinking people to react. No one thinks anything out. There is a huge spirit of manipulation and Fear behind that.


.


actress Gina Rodriquez now has to apologize to singing to a Fugees song where 'Lauren Hill' says ni&&a, and so now there is outrage that she sang it.
.
From growing up Puerto Ricans always said that term, in similar fashion that some black folk did.


Why the outrage.


.


And why should she have to apologize for saying Black American women get paid more than Latinx women?


.


The outrage and sensitivity on the LEFT is equally as pussified as the sensitivity on the RIGHT. And both are self righteous. The left tends to go further than trying to legislate action. They try to legislate thought.


.


.


Gina has ignited firestorms before. Early this year while speaking to Net-a-Porter, the "Jane the Virgin" star said black women were paid more than Latinx. She later apologized live on a radio show.


"The backlash was devastating to say the least," she said while getting emotional. "The black community was the only community I looked to growing up. We didn't have that many Latino shows, so the black community made me feel like I was seen, so to get anti-black is saying that I'm anti-family."


.


The actress said her father is Afro-Latino.


.


"If anything, the black community is my community. When I speak about Latino advocacy, people think I'm only talking about people who are my skin color, but little do they know that I'm very aware of what my culture is," she continued. "I know my intention. The last thing I'd want to do is put two underrepresented groups against each other."



http://www.msn.com/en-us/...ocid=ientp



N Hearing Latinos using the so-called "N word" never exactly sat that well with me. Why can't they call each other "s**cs" instead? And I say that as one who is part Latino myself.


Well Black folk 1/2 claim latinx people, so can Mariah Carey use it? How about Vanessa Williams?
I mean where does the line get drawn?
If artists want people to buy $$ the music, but people get outraged if someone is singing along to a song/rap that includes the N word, there is some sense of serious confusion.

Gina was singing alon to a Lauren Hill song.



The outrage about this stuff is quite hypocritical.





To the best of my knowledge, Vanessa Williams has 2 Black American parents

If you spend too much time on the internet, you'll always find people outraged about something or other... on all sides. I've learned to tune most of it out...

But why don't they say "What's up, my s**c ?"... Wouldn't that be more suitable for them?
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OldFriends4Sale said:

Well Black folk 1/2 claim latinx people, so can Mariah Carey use it? How about Vanessa Williams?
I mean where does the line get drawn?
If artists want people to buy $$ the music, but people get outraged if someone is singing along to a song/rap that includes the N word, there is some sense of serious confusion.

Gina was singing alon to a Lauren Hill song.


The outrage about this stuff is quite hypocritical.

To the best of my knowledge, Vanessa Williams has 2 Black American parents If you spend too much time on the internet, you'll always find people outraged about something or other... on all sides. I've learned to tune most of it out... But why don't they say "What's up, my s**c ?"... Wouldn't that be more suitable for them?

Vanessa is mixed, just like both her parents. And she could be biracial actress Michelle Michaels sister. The One Drop Rule needs to be retired.

The reason I mentioned both people are that I've seen outrage on obviously 'mixed' people doing saying things and then get called into question of their 'white/light skinned priviledge'

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They went after J-LO back in the 90s when she had the N word in one of her songs.
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But JJ this is where we see and hear and read what the LEFT and RIGHT, conservatives and liberals think. the ORG is the internet.

Your part Latino, you should ask some Latinx people. Maybe they do?

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Is that an example of 'hate'?


It's an example of hating less.

Loving less?

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jjhunsecker said:


OldFriends4Sale said:



Well Black folk 1/2 claim latinx people, so can Mariah Carey use it? How about Vanessa Williams?
I mean where does the line get drawn?
If artists want people to buy $$ the music, but people get outraged if someone is singing along to a song/rap that includes the N word, there is some sense of serious confusion.

Gina was singing alon to a Lauren Hill song.



The outrage about this stuff is quite hypocritical.





To the best of my knowledge, Vanessa Williams has 2 Black American parents If you spend too much time on the internet, you'll always find people outraged about something or other... on all sides. I've learned to tune most of it out... But why don't they say "What's up, my s**c ?"... Wouldn't that be more suitable for them?


Vanessa is mixed, just like both her parents. And she could be biracial actress Michelle Michaels sister. The One Drop Rule needs to be retired.


The reason I mentioned both people are that I've seen outrage on obviously 'mixed' people doing saying things and then get called into question of their 'white/light skinned priviledge'


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They went after J-LO back in the 90s when she had the N word in one of her songs.
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But JJ this is where we see and hear and read what the LEFT and RIGHT, conservatives and liberals think. the ORG is the internet.


Your part Latino, you should ask some Latinx people. Maybe they do?



Here's a true story: my friend (who is Italian American) teaches in a school that is predominantly Latino and Guyanese. Kids in the school use the "N word " all the time. My friend would advise his students not to say it, because you never know how people might react to such a loaded term. So one day a Spanish kid is in the cafeteria talking to a black female employee. He tells her "Yo n***a, put some more fries on my plate ". Well, the Black lady went ballistic!! She was ready to tear that kid's head off...I guess she felt that he didn't have the right to use that word around her, and especially not TO her
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OldFriends4Sale said:

Vanessa is mixed, just like both her parents. And she could be biracial actress Michelle Michaels sister. The One Drop Rule needs to be retired.

The reason I mentioned both people are that I've seen outrage on obviously 'mixed' people doing saying things and then get called into question of their 'white/light skinned priviledge'

.


They went after J-LO back in the 90s when she had the N word in one of her songs.
.
But JJ this is where we see and hear and read what the LEFT and RIGHT, conservatives and liberals think. the ORG is the internet.

Your part Latino, you should ask some Latinx people. Maybe they do?

Here's a true story: my friend (who is Italian American) teaches in a school that is predominantly Latino and Guyanese. Kids in the school use the "N word " all the time. My friend would advise his students not to say it, because you never know how people might react to such a loaded term. So one day a Spanish kid is in the cafeteria talking to a black female employee. He tells her "Yo n***a, put some more fries on my plate ". Well, the Black lady went ballistic!! She was ready to tear that kid's head off...I guess she felt that he didn't have the right to use that word around her, and especially not TO her

That is a part of the problem. It is a term of contention.
One of the justifications black folk who wanted to use it was that it was a 'term of endearment' take back the word, and take away the sting. So if that is the case, then why are so many acting like it hurts. Which of course is the point of contention. Because all black folk did not agree to this term being used in person conversation or in songs.
Also the same people that say it's a 'term of endearment' when they are mad at another black person or getting in an altercation will call the black person 'Ni&&a' and it is clearly not used in that situation as a 'term of endearment'
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And in this culture where EVERYTHIHNG is just all over the place and youth don't even know how to related to each other outside of a tech gadgent or app, losing the nuances of sense-ual communication, you get that ^ explosion.

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Now you have Africans calling each other 'Ni&&a'.

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The slur is ugly and needs to be retired. Not justified and measured out to who can use it. Because if people want to make money off of it, then they cannot tell the buyer what to say or not say. I remember buying the Black Panther soundtrack (thinking it was the move score) and disgusted by it. Every song had the N word splatter all over it and the B word in in a few.

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jjhunsecker said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Vanessa is mixed, just like both her parents. And she could be biracial actress Michelle Michaels sister. The One Drop Rule needs to be retired.

The reason I mentioned both people are that I've seen outrage on obviously 'mixed' people doing saying things and then get called into question of their 'white/light skinned priviledge'

.


They went after J-LO back in the 90s when she had the N word in one of her songs.
.
But JJ this is where we see and hear and read what the LEFT and RIGHT, conservatives and liberals think. the ORG is the internet.

Your part Latino, you should ask some Latinx people. Maybe they do?

Here's a true story: my friend (who is Italian American) teaches in a school that is predominantly Latino and Guyanese. Kids in the school use the "N word " all the time. My friend would advise his students not to say it, because you never know how people might react to such a loaded term. So one day a Spanish kid is in the cafeteria talking to a black female employee. He tells her "Yo n***a, put some more fries on my plate ". Well, the Black lady went ballistic!! She was ready to tear that kid's head off...I guess she felt that he didn't have the right to use that word around her, and especially not TO her

That shit wouldn't fly with me either, but I guess it's a generational thing. I grew up during the 60s/70s - if you talked about a dude's mother or called him n*****, fists would fly.

I find it interesting hearing latinos use that term, when many of them deny their African heritage. And according to my friends from the caribbean, Guyanese talk shit about black folks all the time.

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Again and again the argument that "both sides" are really exactly the same on so many issues when they're not the same. I don't get it. It's as if discernment has no meaning, everything anyone thinks carries the same weight. But in real life it doesn't.

Exactly. We're always presented with false equivalencies

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jjhunsecker said:


OldFriends4Sale said:



Vanessa is mixed, just like both her parents. And she could be biracial actress Michelle Michaels sister. The One Drop Rule needs to be retired.


The reason I mentioned both people are that I've seen outrage on obviously 'mixed' people doing saying things and then get called into question of their 'white/light skinned priviledge'


.



They went after J-LO back in the 90s when she had the N word in one of her songs.
.
But JJ this is where we see and hear and read what the LEFT and RIGHT, conservatives and liberals think. the ORG is the internet.


Your part Latino, you should ask some Latinx people. Maybe they do?



Here's a true story: my friend (who is Italian American) teaches in a school that is predominantly Latino and Guyanese. Kids in the school use the "N word " all the time. My friend would advise his students not to say it, because you never know how people might react to such a loaded term. So one day a Spanish kid is in the cafeteria talking to a black female employee. He tells her "Yo n***a, put some more fries on my plate ". Well, the Black lady went ballistic!! She was ready to tear that kid's head off...I guess she felt that he didn't have the right to use that word around her, and especially not TO her


That shit wouldn't fly with me either, but I guess it's a generational thing. I grew up during the 60s/70s - if you talked about a dude's mother or called him n*****, fists would fly.



I find it interesting hearing latinos use that term, when many of them deny their African heritage. And according to my friends from the caribbean, Guyanese talk shit about black folks all the time.





I hear you brother! Back when I was a teenager, there used to be race riots over less
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jjhunsecker said:

guitarslinger44 said: What about all the people on the Right who hate someone like me, not only for my beliefs (such as being pro-choice and pro Gay rights and for a seperation of church and state), but also because of who I am. I think that's a LOT more prevalent than the reverse (and I'm sure you know that too)


The difference is, everyone knows that anyone who genuinely hates you for any of those things is an idiot and shouldn't really be taken seriously, and fortunately, those folks are more and more deciding to be silent rather than expose themselves.

Conversely, people who publicly disagree with left wing orthodoxy have lost jobs, relationships, been doxxed, and had their lives turned upside down simply because they disagree with someone. And that is a great way to get someone to hate you, by removing someone's ability to make a living just because you disagree with their politics.


Can you share examples of when someone has disagreed with the left and lost jobs, relationships, been doxxed, or had their lives turned upside down because they disagree with someone?

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jjhunsecker said:


guitarslinger44 said:



Because you don't want to see it.

I get why Republicans would have hatred for people who constantly call them names, tell them they're terrible people because they don't agree with leftist policies, and basically try to enforce a one-way flow of tolerance. I don't think it's right, but I get it.



What about all the people on the Right who hate someone like me, not only for my beliefs (such as being pro-choice and pro Gay rights and for a seperation of church and state), but also because of who I am. I think that's a LOT more prevalent than the reverse (and I'm sure you know that too)


The difference is, everyone knows that anyone who genuinely hates you for any of those things is an idiot and shouldn't really be taken seriously, and fortunately, those folks are more and more deciding to be silent rather than expose themselves.

Conversely, people who publicly disagree with left wing orthodoxy have lost jobs, relationships, been doxxed, and had their lives turned upside down simply because they disagree with someone. And that is a great way to get someone to hate you, by removing someone's ability to make a living just because you disagree with their politics.


Well then many of the repub, elected officials, for example, shouldn’t continue to silent, when an elected official, who they support, expresses his racial ignorance and disrespect towards specific racial and religious groups, publicly, who is suppose to be the president for all Americans. And that is regardless if many Americans, who chose not to elect him or support his political beliefs and policies. That’s why we have elections.

One can’t expect that those who hold those types of biases/hatred towards specific groups, to be respected. Imagine anyone right or left, with those biases, and having co-workers whom they may hold that type of racial or sexist ignorance towards, yet think those individuals should respect them.

This is the type of man who is running the country right now, who doesn’t hold back his biases, yet many repubs have been silent on his attitude/behavior/disrespect towards those he has constantly, racially disrespected publicly. The problem with many repubs is they normalize racist and sexist biases, by remaining silent about it, and not making much effort to denounce it.
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2elijah said:

guitarslinger44 said:



jjhunsecker said:


guitarslinger44 said:



Because you don't want to see it.

I get why Republicans would have hatred for people who constantly call them names, tell them they're terrible people because they don't agree with leftist policies, and basically try to enforce a one-way flow of tolerance. I don't think it's right, but I get it.



What about all the people on the Right who hate someone like me, not only for my beliefs (such as being pro-choice and pro Gay rights and for a seperation of church and state), but also because of who I am. I think that's a LOT more prevalent than the reverse (and I'm sure you know that too)


The difference is, everyone knows that anyone who genuinely hates you for any of those things is an idiot and shouldn't really be taken seriously, and fortunately, those folks are more and more deciding to be silent rather than expose themselves.

Conversely, people who publicly disagree with left wing orthodoxy have lost jobs, relationships, been doxxed, and had their lives turned upside down simply because they disagree with someone. And that is a great way to get someone to hate you, by removing someone's ability to make a living just because you disagree with their politics.


Well then many of the repub, elected officials, for example, shouldn’t continue to silent, when an elected official, who they support, expresses his racial ignorance and disrespect towards specific racial and religious groups, publicly, who is suppose to be the president for all Americans, regardless if those Americans, choose to not support his political beliefs and policies. That’s why we have elections.

One can’t expect that those who hold those types of biases/hatred towards specific groups, to be respected. Imagine anyone right or left, with those biases, and having co-workers whom they may hold that type of racial or sexist ignorance, yet think those individuals should respect them.

This is the type of man who is running the country right now, who doesn’t hold back his biases, yet many repubs have been silent on his attitude/behavior/disrespect towards those he has constantly, racially disrespected publicly. The problem with many repubs is they normalize racist and sexist biases, by remaining silent about it, and not making much effort to denounce it.
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Remember, so many of his supporte rs either downplay or excuse his bigotry, or share it themselves.


Imagine if you or I voiced glowing support for Louis Farrakhan, and when others criticized his virulent anti-semitism, said it didn't matter and people were making too big a deal of it anyway
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2elijah said:


Well then many of the repub, elected officials, for example, shouldn’t continue to silent, when an elected official, who they support, expresses his racial ignorance and disrespect towards specific racial and religious groups, publicly, who is suppose to be the president for all Americans, regardless if those Americans, choose to not support his political beliefs and policies. That’s why we have elections.

One can’t expect that those who hold those types of biases/hatred towards specific groups, to be respected. Imagine anyone right or left, with those biases, and having co-workers whom they may hold that type of racial or sexist ignorance, yet think those individuals should respect them.

This is the type of man who is running the country right now, who doesn’t hold back his biases, yet many repubs have been silent on his attitude/behavior/disrespect towards those he has constantly, racially disrespected publicly. The problem with many repubs is they normalize racist and sexist biases, by remaining silent about it, and not making much effort to denounce it.
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Remember, so many of his supporte rs either downplay or excuse his bigotry, or share it themselves.


Imagine if you or I voiced glowing support for Louis Farrakhan, and when others criticized his virulent anti-semitism, said it didn't matter and people were making too big a deal of it anyway

Exactly. And neither you nor I support him.
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the Right & Left exemplify different aspects of Fascism

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the Right & Left exemplify different aspects of Fascism

The right does, not the left.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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OldFriends4Sale said:

the Right & Left exemplify different aspects of Fascism


The right does, not the left.


Where are the left keeping the concentration camps?

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13cjk13 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

the Right & Left exemplify different aspects of Fascism

The right does, not the left.

Where's the proof of this, on the left, or at least examples ?

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