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Thousands march for independence in Scottish capital

I thought something earlier this year or in 2018 came up where Scottland (and Ireland) were permitted independance from the UK?

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Thousands marched in Edinburgh Saturday calling for Scottish independence, with a possible British exit from the European Union just weeks away and calls growing for a fresh vote in Scotland on breaking from Britain.

The demonstrators, many carrying Scottish flags, some wearings kilts and a few playing musical instruments -- including bagpipes -- set off from Holyrood Park in the heart of the Scottish capital.

Among them was lawyer and Scottish Nationalist (SNP) lawmaker Joanna Cherry, who was behind one of the successful legal challenges to Prime Minister Boris Johnson's decision to suspend parliament.

She was also one of main backers of a law passed last month forcing Johnson to ask the European Union for more time to avoid crashing out of the EU without a deal.

The group organising Saturday's march, All Under One Banner, said were hoping to get 100,000 people to attend.

Scotland voted against independence in a 2014 referendum by 55 percent.

But nationalists argue that the 2016 British referendum in favour of Brexit means another independence referendum is necessary -- because Scotland voted by 62 percent to stay in the EU.

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, leader of the SNP, has argued that Brexit will devastate the economy.

Nationalists also argue that some people voted against independence thinking it would guarantee their place inside the EU.

Sturgeon, who wants a second independence referendum in 2021, was unable to attend the march, but tweeted a message of support.

Some independence activists also joined the march, while a few pro-Union protesters carrying Union Jack flags staged a small counter-demonstration.

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Reply #1 posted 10/05/19 11:30pm

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Meanwhile in the Principality of Wales.......


Brexit boosting independence support, Plaid Cymru MP claims

https://www.bbc.com/news/...s-49940325


Brexit will do for independence what Thatcherism did for devolution, one of Plaid Cymru's MPs has said.


Jonathan Edwards told his party's conference in Swansea the vote to leave the EU has driven a "sledgehammer through the post-devolution period".


Independence has risen up the Welsh political agenda following a series of marches held across Wales.



Independence march in Cardiff



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Reply #2 posted 10/05/19 11:34pm

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After 2 decades of peace, the threat of an Irish Brexit border is stirring up old fears

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/...-1.5275919



Far from the rancorous debates in London, at the most contentious border in the European Union, Garrett Carr went on an epic trek in pursuit of an "optimistic" mission.


The author's plan was to map Ireland's much-maligned border that's been largely invisible and quiet for years thanks to a peace deal reached on Good Friday in 1998. Along the way, he was surprised to find incredible beauty, or what he calls a "slow, peaceful rural environment."


What he also came away with was a map of the border's violent history — and a sense of the anxiety that besets the people who live there.




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Reply #3 posted 10/06/19 11:22am

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Ireland IS independent from the U.K!
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Reply #4 posted 10/06/19 2:52pm

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Ireland IS independent from the U.K!

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And it shares a land border with Northern Ireland which is NOT independent from the UK. And that is the problem.

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IanRG said:

lust said:

Ireland IS independent from the U.K!

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And it shares a land border with Northern Ireland which is NOT independent from the UK. And that is the problem.


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Reply #6 posted 10/07/19 3:11am

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Still can't believe Scotland messed up their referendum last time.

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Still can't believe Scotland messed up their referendum last time.

I'm sure that Scotland, Ireland and Wales will eventually get independence from England at some point in the future. Ironically I heard nothing of these marches from the news, the first I heard of them was on Prince.org.

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maplenpg said:

jaawwnn said:

Still can't believe Scotland messed up their referendum last time.

I'm sure that Scotland, Ireland and Wales will eventually get independence from England at some point in the future. Ironically I heard nothing of these marches from the news, the first I heard of them was on Prince.org.

Me too!

Also, Ireland already has independence, it's Northern Ireland who need to decide for themselves. ( yes, that's me being pedantic but hey, someone has to be! smile)

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Reply #9 posted 10/07/19 6:42am

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jaawwnn said:

maplenpg said:

I'm sure that Scotland, Ireland and Wales will eventually get independence from England at some point in the future. Ironically I heard nothing of these marches from the news, the first I heard of them was on Prince.org.

Me too!

Also, Ireland already has independence, it's Northern Ireland who need to decide for themselves. ( yes, that's me being pedantic but hey, someone has to be! smile)

My bad, I knew that biggrin

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Reply #10 posted 10/07/19 7:28am

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A very bad idea. This is how you encourage fascism.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #11 posted 10/07/19 8:04am

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2freaky4church1 said:

A very bad idea. This is how you encourage fascism.

As opposed to what, dying for the British royals? Independence from the UK is not the same as the worst of racist nationalism.

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