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Thread started 08/30/19 4:07pm

IanRG

The Crimean Slave Trade

Blonde cargoes: Finnish c...val Crimea

When we think of slavery, we tend to think of this African traffic. Yet it was not the only such trade – nor was it, before 1700, even the largest. A second great market in slaves once sullied the world, this one less well-known, vastly longer-lasting, and centred on the Black Sea ports of the Crimea. It was a huge trade in its own right; in its great years, which lasted roughly from 1200 until 1760, an estimated 6.5 million prisoners were shipped off to new and often intensely miserable lives in places ranging from Italy to India.




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Reply #1 posted 08/31/19 5:44am

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Thanks for posting this Ian. Never heard of this before. I’m sure there is so much many of us don’t know about many who were enslaved in the past, and just recently learning about. I only learned about the Trans-Saharan and South American slave trades a few years ago. Just to learn of the horrific abuses and past atrocities, many in the past suffered at the hands of humans, is hopefully a lesson for us not to repeat that history. Unfortunately though around the world dome of gnoses abuses still exists. Thanks again for posting.
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Reply #2 posted 08/31/19 6:23am

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Ian don't junk up the threads.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #3 posted 08/31/19 6:32am

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IanRG said:

Blonde cargoes: Finnish c...val Crimea

The horrors of the trans-Atlantic slave trade have left an ineradicable mark on history. In the course of a little more than three and a half centuries, 12.5 million prisoners – at least two-thirds of them men destined for a life of labour in the fields – were shipped from holding pens along the African coast to destinations ranging from Argentina in the south all the way north to Canada. It was the largest forced migration in modern history.




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When we think of slavery, we tend to think of this African traffic. Yet it was not the only such trade – nor was it, before 1700, even the largest. A second great market in slaves once sullied the world, this one less well-known, vastly longer-lasting, and centred on the Black Sea ports of the Crimea. It was a huge trade in its own right; in its great years, which lasted roughly from 1200 until 1760, an estimated 6.5 million prisoners were shipped off to new and often intensely miserable lives in places ranging from Italy to India.

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The article is not about the trans-Atlantic slave trade at all. It is about the Crimean slave trade that spanned from Russia to India to Italy. It traded people of all races and types in all directions, selling Muslim slaves to Christians, Christian slaves to Muslims etc. It was mainly women and children and the ones that were most prized were the Finnish.

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All these threads on slavery show that the problem is great, throughtout history and world wide. It is still a serious problem today. I thought people may be interested in this little known type of slavery.

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Reply #4 posted 08/31/19 6:41am

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I knew about it, but not very much. Thanks for posting, Ian.

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Reply #5 posted 08/31/19 6:53am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Ian don't junk up the threads.

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I have asked for the mess made above to be fixed. I cannot edit it to make it make sense.

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IanRG said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Ian don't junk up the threads.

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I have asked for the mess made above to be fixed. I cannot edit it to make it make sense.


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Reply #7 posted 08/31/19 5:32pm

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IanRG said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Ian don't junk up the threads.

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I have asked for the mess made above to be fixed. I cannot edit it to make it make sense.

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It's not going to be fixed.

It's a 'reminder' of the rules of this forum, which you failed to follow and also a reminder to all. Some folks tend not to follow and think they can get away with it.

Now instead of airing your dirty laundry, why not orgnote a mod??? Unless you want to side track and derail your own thread........ Move on.



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Reply #8 posted 08/31/19 6:21pm

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The thing about the trans-Atlantic trade that is often raised is that it was on a scale and with a level of efficiency not seen in previous forms of slave trade.

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However, bearing in that the Crimean trade started before the industrial revolution and involved 6.5 million people, the efficiency and scale of this trade over vasts parts of the world shows there were other slave trading structures that were, adjusting for technology similar.

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The horrors of the trans-Atlantic slave trade have left an ineradicable mark on history. In the course of a little more than three and a half centuries, 12.5 million prisoners – at least two-thirds of them men destined for a life of labour in the fields – were shipped from holding pens along the African coast to destinations ranging from Argentina in the south all the way north to Canada. It was the largest forced migration in modern history. . . .

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A second great market in slaves once sullied the world, this one less well-known, vastly longer-lasting, and centred on the Black Sea ports of the Crimea. It was a huge trade in its own right; in its great years, which lasted roughly from 1200 until 1760, an estimated 6.5 million prisoners were shipped off to new and often intensely miserable lives in places ranging from Italy to India.

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Slavery in the Crimea, however, differed in significant ways from the model made so familiar by the trans-Atlantic trade. The slaves sold there were white, being drawn for the most part from the great plains of the Ukraine and southern Russia in annual raids known as the "harvesting of the steppe." Their masters were successively Vikings, Italians and Tatars – the latter being, for nearly half of the trade's life, the subjects of the Crimean Khanate, a state that owed its own long life to its ability to satisfy demand for slaves. And most of the slaves themselves were not male labourers. They were women and children destined for domestic service – a fate that not infrequently included sexual service. The latter sort of slave was always fairly commonplace in the Crimea. . . .

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It can be argued, indeed, that the significance of the Crimean slave trade as a whole has been severely under-estimated. It was not simply a precursor of the Atlantic trade; it provided a model and, in a number of cases, the expertise for it. Some of the Genoese slavers who were thrown out of Caffa by the Ottomans a few years after the fall of Byzantium reappeared as founders of the Atlantic trade towards the end of the fifteenth century. Moreover, Ottoman Istanbul, the largest city in all of Europe and western Asia by 1550, grew rapidly in part because one in five of its booming population was a Crimean slave. And the Cossacks of the Ukraine first organised themselves into large bands to protect against Tatar slave raids.

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Life for forest Finns. This 1893 oil painting by Eero Jarnefelt is a late representation of an age-old way of life that had probably changed little since the days that Tatars from Astrakhan travelled half way across west Asia to raid the country for blonde children.

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