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Reply #60 posted 08/25/19 6:22pm

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What link? It's for all to see in bing images. Just a bunch of idiots that only trapped people, huh? I saw what you said before you edited it.

Posted in response to this statement - already in the thread.

I've noticed people can make fun of Christian imagery and it is ok etc but rarely Jewish, and when made toward Islam, there are 'violent' responses by Muslims.




[Edited 8/25/19 18:06pm]

What? I never said anything about a link

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Reply #61 posted 08/25/19 6:23pm

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When was that? and we all know that many nations on Aferica traded slaves too!? People Suck.

So did America before and after it became America. popcorn [Edited 8/25/19 18:19pm]

yup and not just from Africa. Many from Asia and Europe were inslaved.

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Reply #62 posted 08/25/19 6:25pm

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LOL

"Let's not talk about Islamic issues, let's talk about everyone else"

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Reply #63 posted 08/25/19 6:27pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



2elijah said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:



When was that? and we all know that many nations on Aferica traded slaves too!? People Suck.



So did America before and after it became America. popcorn [Edited 8/25/19 18:19pm]


yup and not just from Africa. Many from Asia and Europe were inslaved.




So did America before it became America. Back on topic.
[Edited 8/25/19 18:28pm]
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Reply #64 posted 08/25/19 6:30pm

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Do you have a link to this?

I don't agree with terrorizing people but it's not the same as killing people your religion feels are lesser. Are you pro gay?
[Edited 8/25/19 17:18pm]





poppys said:

What link? It's for all to see in bing images. Just a bunch of idiots that only trapped people, huh? I saw what you said before you edited it.

Posted in response to this statement - already in the thread.



What? I never said anything about a link


guitarslinger44 asked me for a link. see above.

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Reply #65 posted 08/25/19 6:33pm

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jjhunsecker said:

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Thank you.

No I wouldn't say conservatives of any stripes are open to homosexuality, but I can't think of any other group of conservatives that are actively killing them.

[Edited 8/25/19 16:24pm]


Were the killers of Matthew Sheppard "Christians"? How about most gay bashers in America?

Or is it the usual case: if a crazy Muslim does something horrible, it's because he's Muslim. But if a crazy White Christian does something horrible, it's because he is crazy, and nobody mentions his race or religion as a factor?


I found this article. This was less than 3 weeks ago. It’s apparent the guy that got arrested, held the same level of hatred towards both groups he wanted to attack.

https://www.hrc.org/blog/...ing-attack

Neo-Nazi, Anti-LGBTQ Extremist Conor Climo Arrested for Planning Attack on LGBTQ & Jewish People

By Lucas Acosta August 10, 2019

“Today, HRC responded to news of Conor Climo’s arrest. Climo was allegedly discovered to have been planning to attack a synagogue and LGBTQ bar in Las Vegas, NV.”
[Edited 8/25/19 18:53pm]
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Reply #66 posted 08/25/19 6:38pm

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poppys said:

What link? It's for all to see in bing images. Just a bunch of idiots that only trapped people, huh? I saw what you said before you edited it.

Posted in response to this statement - already in the thread.



I've noticed people can make fun of Christian imagery and it is ok etc but rarely Jewish, and when made toward Islam, there are 'violent' responses by Muslims.






[Edited 8/25/19 18:06pm]



So you post some random image and we're supposed to guess what happened based on your word? lol Never change poppys, never change...
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Reply #67 posted 08/25/19 6:41pm

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jjhunsecker said:

guitarslinger44 said:



Thank you.

No I wouldn't say conservatives of any stripes are open to homosexuality, but I can't think of any other group of conservatives that are actively killing them.

[Edited 8/25/19 16:24pm]


Were the killers of Matthew Sheppard "Christians"? How about most gay bashers in America?

Or is it the usual case: if a crazy Muslim does something horrible, it's because he's Muslim. But if a crazy White Christian does something horrible, it's because he is crazy, and nobody mentions his race or religion as a factor?


This is just whataboutism. The thread is about Islam and islam in the 2010s. Bringing up stuff like that (I read up on that case and there's no evidence I could find that there was any religious motivation for the crime) has nothing to do with what were talking about.
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Reply #68 posted 08/25/19 6:46pm

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poppys said:

Agree with your post 2elijah.

The religion of Islam is being singled out. None of the big 3 have much to be proud of when it comes to practicing what they preach.

[Edited 8/25/19 7:34am]



Yep, and some in the media help to promote the bias towards Islam, especially after 9/11, and all some of us are basically saying, is that after that tragedy, the hatred and misconceptions of Muslims skyrocketed, and many innocent Muslims were physically attacked.

The rhetoric from our current president, towards the Muslim community doesn’t make it any better either.
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Reply #69 posted 08/25/19 6:48pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



LOL



"Let's not talk about Islamic issues, let's talk about everyone else"





Hey hey hey, we wouldn't want people to think we were RACIST or ISLAMOPHOBIC for making easy to see observations would we?? lol lol lol
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Reply #70 posted 08/25/19 6:50pm

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poppys said:



OldFriends4Sale said:




guitarslinger44 said:

Do you have a link to this?

I don't agree with terrorizing people but it's not the same as killing people your religion feels are lesser. Are you pro gay?
[Edited 8/25/19 17:18pm]





poppys said:


What link? It's for all to see in bing images. Just a bunch of idiots that only trapped people, huh? I saw what you said before you edited it.

Posted in response to this statement - already in the thread.







What? I never said anything about a link




guitarslinger44 asked me for a link. see above.



poppys are you pro gay rights?
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Reply #71 posted 08/25/19 6:53pm

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poppys said:


What link? It's for all to see in bing images. Just a bunch of idiots that only trapped people, huh? I saw what you said before you edited it.

Posted in response to this statement - already in the thread.


So you post some random image and we're supposed to guess what happened based on your word? lol Never change poppys, never change...


Random image??? You don't recognize it? Lol - search Charlottesville Rally images. Search any newspaper archive.

There are many, many more photos of those "idiots" marching around the temple that day.

theatlantic.com Aug 15, 2017

The demonstration was suffused with anti-black racism, but also with anti-Semitism. Marchers displayed swastikas on banners and shouted slogans like “blood and soil,” a phrase drawn from Nazi ideology. “This city is run by Jewish communists and criminal niggers,” one demonstrator told Vice News’ Elspeth Reeve during their march.

As Jews prayed at a local synagogue, Congregation Beth Israel, men dressed in fatigues carrying semi-automatic rifles stood across the street, according to the temple’s president. Nazi websites posted a call to burn their building. As a precautionary measure, congregants had removed their Torah scrolls and exited through the back of the building when they were done praying.

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Reply #72 posted 08/25/19 6:56pm

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I've never seen that image and it says nothing about the event you were talking about. Stay on topic, what does that picture have to do with the thread topic?

Are you pro gay rights?

[Edited 8/25/19 18:58pm]
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Reply #73 posted 08/25/19 7:04pm

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I've never seen that image and it says nothing about the event you were talking about.


What "event" was I talking about? nuts

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Reply #74 posted 08/25/19 7:04pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



LOL



"Let's not talk about Islamic issues, let's talk about everyone else"





Hey hey hey, we wouldn't want people to think we were RACIST or ISLAMOPHOBIC for making easy to see observations would we?? lol lol lol

Nope, it’s just more about being fair in your judgement.
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Reply #75 posted 08/25/19 7:07pm

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2elijah said:

guitarslinger44 said:



Hey hey hey, we wouldn't want people to think we were RACIST or ISLAMOPHOBIC for making easy to see observations would we?? lol lol lol

Nope, it’s just more about being fair in your judgement.


How is it an unfair judgement when Islam is the only religion killing gays and women basically because they're gays and women in 2019?

If these were white people you'd be throwing a fit. Speaking of "being fair in judgement..."
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Reply #76 posted 08/25/19 7:09pm

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poppys said:



guitarslinger44 said:


I've never seen that image and it says nothing about the event you were talking about.



What "event" was I talking about? nuts



Folks being trapped in their synagogue during worship. Are you drunk or something? nuts
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Reply #77 posted 08/25/19 7:11pm

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2elijah said:

Nope, it’s just more about being fair in your judgement.


How is it an unfair judgement when Islam is the only religion killing gays and women basically because they're gays and women in 2019? If these were white people you'd be throwing a fit. Speaking of "being fair in judgement..."


So you think no "white people" are Muslims?

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Reply #78 posted 08/25/19 7:17pm

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What "event" was I talking about? nuts


Folks being trapped in their synagogue during worship. Are you drunk or something? nuts


That IS the event. Those are the marchers and that is the Charlottesville Temple. nuts nuts nuts

Just had a nice cup of English tea, PG tips, one of my favorites.

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Reply #79 posted 08/25/19 7:17pm

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poppys said:



guitarslinger44 said:


2elijah said:

Nope, it’s just more about being fair in your judgement.



How is it an unfair judgement when Islam is the only religion killing gays and women basically because they're gays and women in 2019? If these were white people you'd be throwing a fit. Speaking of "being fair in judgement..."



So you think no "white people" are Muslims?



So you aren't in favor of gay rights then?
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Reply #80 posted 08/25/19 7:17pm

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2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



jjhunsecker said:


guitarslinger44 said:
There's definitely a lot of whataboutism that goes on when Islam is brought up that never really seems to come up for any other group that I can think of. hmmm

ALL religions have done fucked up things if you study their history honestly, but people like to act as if only Islam is guilty of wrongdoing. For example, The NY Times recently ran a story about how Catholic nuns traded slaves


When was that? and we all know that many nations on Africa traded slaves too!? People Suck.


So did America before and after it became America. popcorn
[Edited 8/25/19 18:19pm]


Did you read The NY Times 1619 Project special issue? (1619 being the year that the first African slaves were brought to these shores, and the reprocussions that exists to this day)
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Reply #81 posted 08/25/19 7:18pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

I've never seen that image and it says nothing about the event you were talking about. Stay on topic, what does that picture have to do with the thread topic? Are you pro gay rights? [Edited 8/25/19 18:58pm]

don't expect a real answer. deflection from da get go

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Reply #82 posted 08/25/19 7:18pm

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poppys said:



guitarslinger44 said:


poppys said:



What "event" was I talking about? nuts




Folks being trapped in their synagogue during worship. Are you drunk or something? nuts



That IS the event. Those are the marchers and that is the Charlottesville Temple. nuts nuts nuts

Just had a nice cup of English tea, PG tips, one of my favorites.



Never seen that picture, BUT you and I are in agreement that PG Tips is in fact very delicious!
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Reply #83 posted 08/25/19 7:18pm

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poppys said:

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What? I never said anything about a link


guitarslinger44 asked me for a link. see above.

so why did you reply to my post?

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Reply #84 posted 08/25/19 7:20pm

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jjhunsecker said:
Were the killers of Matthew Sheppard "Christians"? How about most gay bashers in America? Or is it the usual case: if a crazy Muslim does something horrible, it's because he's Muslim. But if a crazy White Christian does something horrible, it's because he is crazy, and nobody mentions his race or religion as a factor?
This is just whataboutism. The thread is about Islam and islam in the 2010s. Bringing up stuff like that (I read up on that case and there's no evidence I could find that there was any religious motivation for the crime) has nothing to do with what were talking about.

LOL everything but the topic lol

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Reply #85 posted 08/25/19 7:22pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



guitarslinger44 said:


jjhunsecker said:
Were the killers of Matthew Sheppard "Christians"? How about most gay bashers in America? Or is it the usual case: if a crazy Muslim does something horrible, it's because he's Muslim. But if a crazy White Christian does something horrible, it's because he is crazy, and nobody mentions his race or religion as a factor?

This is just whataboutism. The thread is about Islam and islam in the 2010s. Bringing up stuff like that (I read up on that case and there's no evidence I could find that there was any religious motivation for the crime) has nothing to do with what were talking about.


LOL everything but the topic lol



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Reply #86 posted 08/25/19 7:23pm

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2elijah said:


So did America before and after it became America. popcorn

Did you read The NY Times 1619 Project special issue? (1619 being the year that the first African slaves were brought to these shores, and the reprocussions that exists to this day)


Not yet. I'll have to read that. I saw some people reenacted the Virginia landing in period dress.

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Reply #87 posted 08/25/19 7:26pm

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I think it's time for some facts and numbers. I'll have more tomorrow, but this is just to get those of you willing to read started.

12 Countries That Will Kill You For Being LGBTQ:' https://www.advocate.com/...bt#slide-0

(Spoiler Alert: they're all Muslim countries)
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Reply #88 posted 08/25/19 7:32pm

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I do believe there a more American Arabs who are moderate, and probably lean more to accepting gay individuals who might be friends or family. I wonder though if these people are practicing muslims though. Also I believe there are those who lean more toward the pre Islamic, Zoroastrainism and other beliefs.

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The Muslim holy book, the Koran, tells the story of Lot and the destruction of Sodom - and sodomy in Arabic is known as "liwat," based on Lot's name.

Men having sex with each other should be punished, the Koran says, but it doesn't say how - and it adds that they should be left alone if they repent.

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The death penalty instead comes from the Hadith, or accounts of the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. The accounts differ on the method of killing, and some accounts give lesser penalties in some circumstances.

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Yet, despite that teaching, Muslims in some countries have indicated support for LGBT rights. Just over 40 percent of U.S. Muslims said they supported same-sex marriage last year, in a survey by the Washington-based Public Religion Research Institute.

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In addition, a small number of Islamic scholars, mainly in the West, have started re-examining Islamic teaching on same-gender sex and have concluded that the blanket condemnation is a misinterpretation. However, this review is only just beginning and is not widely accepted.

What Does ISIS Say?

According to ISIS' radical interpretation of Islam, gays should be thrown from a high building then stoned if they are not dead when they hit the ground. The group bases this gruesome punishment on one account in which the Prophet Muhammad reportedly said gays "should be thrown from tremendous height then stoned."

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/islam-and-homosexuality-what-does-the-koran-say-1.5395747

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Reply #89 posted 08/25/19 7:34pm

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I think it's time for some facts and numbers. I'll have more tomorrow, but this is just to get those of you willing to read started. 12 Countries That Will Kill You For Being LGBTQ:' https://www.advocate.com/...bt#slide-0 (Spoiler Alert: they're all Muslim countries)


Not only do I support LGBTQ rights, I've started threads about it.


guitarslinger44 said:

How is it an unfair judgement when Islam is the only religion killing gays and women basically because they're gays and women in 2019? If these were white people you'd be throwing a fit. Speaking of "being fair in judgement..."


How come you think white people aren't Muslims?

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