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Texas police apologise for horseback officers leading Black man by rope

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Texas police have apologised after an image of two white officers on horseback leading a handcuffed black man by a rope caused an outcry online.

Galveston Police Chief Vernon Hale said on Monday the technique was acceptable in some scenarios, but that "officers showed poor judgment in this instance".

He said there was no "malicious intent" and has changed department policy to "prevent the use of this technique".

Many people on social media said the photo evoked images of the slavery era.

According to a news release from the Galveston Police Department, the two mounted officers, named only as P Brosch and A Smith, arrested Donald Neely for criminal trespass.

The officers were taking Mr Neely to a police staging area. Police clarified that he was not tied with the rope, but "was handcuffed and a line was clipped to the handcuffs".

The department added: "We understand the negative perception of this action and believe it is most appropriate to cease the use of this technique."

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Image copyright: SMITH COLLECTION/GADO/GETTY IMAGES | Image caption: Etching depicting a group of slaves marched while they are bound together, led by white men on horses who carry guns and whips

Mr Hale apologised to Mr Neely for the "unnecessary embarrassment".

He added the officers "could have waited for a transport unit at the location of the arrest".

"We have immediately changed the policy to prevent the use of this technique and will review all mounted training and procedures for more appropriate methods," the police chief said.

Mr Neely is free on bond but could not be reached for comment, the Houston Chronicle reported.

Leon Phillips, director of the Galveston County Coalition for Justice, told the BBC the image that went viral on social media was taken by an individual who wished to remain anonymous.

Mr Phillips said the incident is "difficult to talk about" as a Galveston resident.

"This was a stupid mistake," he said. "What I do know is that if it was a white man, there's no way they would have done that to him."

He noted that Mr Neely is a mentally ill individual, and officers should have waited regardless of how long it took a vehicle to arrive, since "it's not as if they're getting paid by the arrest".

Mr Phillips said he plans to file an open records request at city hall this morning to look at law enforcement policies.

"The police chief says they didn't break any policy, but what is the policy on transporting a prisoner?

"How do I know that the policy wasn't written in 1875? There are a lot of unanswered questions."

Source: BBC News

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This is one of those incidents that there are almost no words to describe. It's hard to fathom how the officers involved thought that this was acceptable. And, yet, in another sense, it's chillingly clear how it seemed to them like a natural response.

I was reminded of that documentary The Farm: Angola, USA, which seemed like it depicted a nook of the country in which slavery never ended - and not even in the metaphorical or analogous sense that that's sometimes said. "We understand the negative perception of this action", say the police, but it's hard to imagine how they could do it in the first place, if that were true.

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Reply #1 posted 08/07/19 7:59am

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Just sickening. The racism in the US is so appalling that I sometimes I have no words.

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Reply #2 posted 08/07/19 8:01am

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Seriously, what the fuck?? How could anyone think this is acceptable on any level?
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Reply #3 posted 08/07/19 10:11am

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EmmaMcG said:

Seriously, what the fuck?? How could anyone think this is acceptable on any level?

Ask 45 and his supporters. They may have an answer.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #4 posted 08/07/19 12:43pm

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They should have held him place until a car arrived.

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Reply #5 posted 08/07/19 1:56pm

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They really weren’t thinking straight when they did this. From the outcry, they’ll know better next time.
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Reply #6 posted 08/07/19 3:29pm

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this is racism.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #7 posted 08/07/19 3:39pm

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13cjk13 said:

EmmaMcG said:

Seriously, what the fuck?? How could anyone think this is acceptable on any level?

Ask 45 and his supporters. They may have an answer.

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Reply #8 posted 08/08/19 1:38am

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EmmaMcG said:

Seriously, what the fuck?? How could anyone think this is acceptable on any level?

One does have to wonder. The only answers I can come up with don't seem pretty.
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Reply #9 posted 08/08/19 4:56am

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The sad thing is, PD knows better then this shit. So why does crap like this keep happening?

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Reply #10 posted 08/08/19 6:03am

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Mounted police should always wait for a car.

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At one of our public markets, there is a mounted officer that helps with traffic. And a biker guy came behind him, while he was in a thick of people and revved his bike, causing the horse to jump.

Long story short, he ended up cuffing the guy, and waited for back up in a vehicle to take him away and his cousin who showed up to threaten the officer. Walking the guy away like in the photo or putting him on the horse would not be proper protocal. But hey that is Texas for ya.

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Reply #11 posted 08/08/19 3:36pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Mounted police should always wait for a car.

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At one of our public markets, there is a mounted officer that helps with traffic. And a biker guy came behind him, while he was in a thick of people and revved his bike, causing the horse to jump.

Long story short, he ended up cuffing the guy, and waited for back up in a vehicle to take him away and his cousin who showed up to threaten the officer. Walking the guy away like in the photo or putting him on the horse would not be proper protocal. But hey that is Texas for ya.

No it's not proper protocal, but that doesn't mean it only happens or could happen in Texas...

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mounted police should always wait for a car.

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At one of our public markets, there is a mounted officer that helps with traffic. And a biker guy came behind him, while he was in a thick of people and revved his bike, causing the horse to jump.

Long story short, he ended up cuffing the guy, and waited for back up in a vehicle to take him away and his cousin who showed up to threaten the officer. Walking the guy away like in the photo or putting him on the horse would not be proper protocal. But hey that is Texas for ya.

No it's not proper protocal, but that doesn't mean it only happens or could happen in Texas...

Of course I know it only happens in Texas. I've never heard of this happening anywhere, but Texans are Texans.

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Reply #13 posted 08/08/19 8:17pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

No it's not proper protocal, but that doesn't mean it only happens or could happen in Texas...

Of course I know it only happens in Texas. I've never heard of this happening anywhere, but Texans are Texans.

Actually it could happen anywhere in the US where cities have Police on horseback, and there will always be stupid cops that do stupid things no mantter what city its.

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Reply #14 posted 08/10/19 12:05pm

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deebee said:

EmmaMcG said:
Seriously, what the fuck?? How could anyone think this is acceptable on any level?
One does have to wonder. The only answers I can come up with don't seem pretty.

Exactly....we all know the deal.

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Reply #15 posted 08/10/19 3:17pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

No it's not proper protocal, but that doesn't mean it only happens or could happen in Texas...

Of course I know it only happens in Texas. I've never heard of this happening anywhere, but Texans are Texans.

really? so it never happened in New York? Please... these guys just got caught. To say you "know" it only happens in Texas is based on what? Keep it mind this was Galveston....mayor Republican or Democrat? Chief of Police?

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Reply #16 posted 08/12/19 4:36pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



OldFriends4Sale said:




PennyPurple said:



No it's not proper protocal, but that doesn't mean it only happens or could happen in Texas...




Of course I know it only happens in Texas. I've never heard of this happening anywhere, but Texans are Texans.






really? so it never happened in New York? Please... these guys just got caught. To say you "know" it only happens in Texas is based on what? Keep it mind this was Galveston....mayor Republican or Democrat? Chief of Police?


When did it happen in new york? Ive lived here 15 or 16 years now, and havent heard of it happening here
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