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Reply #30 posted 08/21/19 7:18am

poppys

RodeoSchro said:

poppys said:

Republicans are especially trying to make the El Paso shooter a "lefty" because it's located on the border, and Mexican nationals are among the dead. Trump says "They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."

Meanwhile, they are killed in a US border town by an admitted White Nationalist.



Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump spoke with NRA Executive Director Wayne LaPierre yesterday. Guess what the future of universal background checks is now?

Honestly, this is just incredible. Poll after poll after poll shows 90% or so of Americans are in favor of universal background checks. Ninety percent! That's almost everyone! About 60% of Republicans - Trump's base, mind you - are also in favor of them. It defies logic that, given those polling numbes, ANY politician of ANY party would be afraid to come out in favor of universal background checks because of the risk of losing voters.

And yet, here we are.

The NRA is simply buying the president. There is no other explanation.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

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Reply #31 posted 08/21/19 7:56am

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poppys said:

RodeoSchro said:



Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump spoke with NRA Executive Director Wayne LaPierre yesterday. Guess what the future of universal background checks is now?

Honestly, this is just incredible. Poll after poll after poll shows 90% or so of Americans are in favor of universal background checks. Ninety percent! That's almost everyone! About 60% of Republicans - Trump's base, mind you - are also in favor of them. It defies logic that, given those polling numbes, ANY politician of ANY party would be afraid to come out in favor of universal background checks because of the risk of losing voters.

And yet, here we are.

The NRA is simply buying the president. There is no other explanation.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

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Reply #32 posted 08/21/19 8:24am

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RodeoSchro said:



poppys said:


Republicans are especially trying to make the El Paso shooter a "lefty" because it's located on the border, and Mexican nationals are among the dead. Trump says "They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists."

Meanwhile, they are killed in a US border town by an admitted White Nationalist.





Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump spoke with NRA Executive Director Wayne LaPierre yesterday. Guess what the future of universal background checks is now?

Honestly, this is just incredible. Poll after poll after poll shows 90% or so of Americans are in favor of universal background checks. Ninety percent! That's almost everyone! About 60% of Republicans - Trump's base, mind you - are also in favor of them. It defies logic that, given those polling numbes, ANY politician of ANY party would be afraid to come out in favor of universal background checks because of the risk of losing voters.

And yet, here we are.

The NRA is simply buying the president. There is no other explanation.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.



It's not just the NRA though. When shootings happen, emotions surrounding them, stoked by the media, prompt people to feel unsafe and thus, to buy weapons. Defense companies are getting what amounts to corporate welfare from the government but gun companies profit handsomely from all this chaos related to shootings. It's in their interest to keep things the same as well.
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Reply #33 posted 08/21/19 1:38pm

RodeoSchro

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:



Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump spoke with NRA Executive Director Wayne LaPierre yesterday. Guess what the future of universal background checks is now?

Honestly, this is just incredible. Poll after poll after poll shows 90% or so of Americans are in favor of universal background checks. Ninety percent! That's almost everyone! About 60% of Republicans - Trump's base, mind you - are also in favor of them. It defies logic that, given those polling numbes, ANY politician of ANY party would be afraid to come out in favor of universal background checks because of the risk of losing voters.

And yet, here we are.

The NRA is simply buying the president. There is no other explanation.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

It's not just the NRA though. When shootings happen, emotions surrounding them, stoked by the media, prompt people to feel unsafe and thus, to buy weapons. Defense companies are getting what amounts to corporate welfare from the government but gun companies profit handsomely from all this chaos related to shootings. It's in their interest to keep things the same as well.



It IS just the NRA. The media doesn't stoke the emotions - people do. I lived 20 miles from Santa Fe High School and knew people whose kids were gunned down. Our community didn't need the media to stoke a damn thing.

Neither did the communities of Newton; Las Vegas; El Paso; Dayton; Gilroy; Virginia Beach; Charlotte; Parkland; Pittsburgh; Aurora IL; Annapolis; Orlando; Sutherland Springs; Plano; Dallas; Bethesda; Kalamazoo; San Bernadino; Colorado Springs; Lafayette; Charleston; Tyrone; Isla Vista; Overland Park; Fort Hood; the Washington Navy Yard; Saylorsburg; Los Angeles; Clackamas; oak Creek; Aurora CO; Seattle; Oakland; Chardon; Carson City; Copley township; Grand Rapids; Tucson; Manchester; Huntsville; and St. Louis.

That's about 30% of the mass shootings that have taken place in just this decade.

When poll after poll after poll shows that 90% or so of Americans favor something, they favor it. There is no stoking involved. You can take a universal background check right after a mass shooting, or betwen mass shootings, and the numbers don't change. Nor have they since at least Sandy Hook.

But universal background checks are ALWAYS stymied by one and only one entity - the NRA. Their money is just too powerful a lure for cowards like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, Moscow Mitch, Lindsay Graham, etc. etc. etc.

If 90% of Americans want something, and one organization doesn't, and that thing is then not ever done, the blame lies at the feet of that organization. Don't try to tell me otherwise.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

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Reply #34 posted 08/21/19 1:47pm

RodeoSchro

I came here to post about stock markets. So....

The DJIA hit its near-zenith under unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump on January 26, 2018, when it closed at 26,617 (it did close slightly higher 11 months ago but then quickly tanked).

The DJIA closed at 26,203 today - and that's after gaining 800 points the past week or so.

So...the performance of the DJIA since it's topping off 18 months ago is a net LOSS of 400 points.

Wow, that's George W. Bush-type performance.

Let's be honest - the entire run-up of the DJIA under the unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump was because of: (1) euphoria over expected tax cuts; and (2) stock buybacks created by the actual corporate tax cuts.

That party is over and, as the numbers show, has been over for about 19 months. Since then, it's been a loss of 1.55%

#MAGA

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Reply #35 posted 08/21/19 2:23pm

DiminutiveRock
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RodeoSchro said:

I came here to post about stock markets. So....

The DJIA hit its near-zenith under unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump on January 26, 2018, when it closed at 26,617 (it did close slightly higher 11 months ago but then quickly tanked).

The DJIA closed at 26,203 today - and that's after gaining 800 points the past week or so.

So...the performance of the DJIA since it's topping off 18 months ago is a net LOSS of 400 points.

Wow, that's George W. Bush-type performance.

Let's be honest - the entire run-up of the DJIA under the unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump was because of: (1) euphoria over expected tax cuts; and (2) stock buybacks created by the actual corporate tax cuts.

That party is over and, as the numbers show, has been over for about 19 months. Since then, it's been a loss of 1.55%

#MAGA


So if you cannot tout the economy as your strong suit, you stir your base wiht anti-semitic statements about how an ethnic group should vote and you try to incarcerate refugee families indefinitely.

VOTE....EARLY
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Reply #36 posted 08/21/19 4:14pm

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RodeoSchro said:



guitarslinger44 said:


RodeoSchro said:




Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump spoke with NRA Executive Director Wayne LaPierre yesterday. Guess what the future of universal background checks is now?

Honestly, this is just incredible. Poll after poll after poll shows 90% or so of Americans are in favor of universal background checks. Ninety percent! That's almost everyone! About 60% of Republicans - Trump's base, mind you - are also in favor of them. It defies logic that, given those polling numbes, ANY politician of ANY party would be afraid to come out in favor of universal background checks because of the risk of losing voters.

And yet, here we are.

The NRA is simply buying the president. There is no other explanation.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.



It's not just the NRA though. When shootings happen, emotions surrounding them, stoked by the media, prompt people to feel unsafe and thus, to buy weapons. Defense companies are getting what amounts to corporate welfare from the government but gun companies profit handsomely from all this chaos related to shootings. It's in their interest to keep things the same as well.



It IS just the NRA. The media doesn't stoke the emotions - people do. I lived 20 miles from Santa Fe High School and knew people whose kids were gunned down. Our community didn't need the media to stoke a damn thing.

Neither did the communities of Newton; Las Vegas; El Paso; Dayton; Gilroy; Virginia Beach; Charlotte; Parkland; Pittsburgh; Aurora IL; Annapolis; Orlando; Sutherland Springs; Plano; Dallas; Bethesda; Kalamazoo; San Bernadino; Colorado Springs; Lafayette; Charleston; Tyrone; Isla Vista; Overland Park; Fort Hood; the Washington Navy Yard; Saylorsburg; Los Angeles; Clackamas; oak Creek; Aurora CO; Seattle; Oakland; Chardon; Carson City; Copley township; Grand Rapids; Tucson; Manchester; Huntsville; and St. Louis.

That's about 30% of the mass shootings that have taken place in just this decade.

When poll after poll after poll shows that 90% or so of Americans favor something, they favor it. There is no stoking involved. You can take a universal background check right after a mass shooting, or betwen mass shootings, and the numbers don't change. Nor have they since at least Sandy Hook.

But universal background checks are ALWAYS stymied by one and only one entity - the NRA. Their money is just too powerful a lure for cowards like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, Moscow Mitch, Lindsay Graham, etc. etc. etc.

If 90% of Americans want something, and one organization doesn't, and that thing is then not ever done, the blame lies at the feet of that organization. Don't try to tell me otherwise.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.



I get you have a hate boner for the NRA,but you're saying there's no defense/gun company lobby that works alongside them?
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Reply #37 posted 08/21/19 5:11pm

RodeoSchro

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:



It IS just the NRA. The media doesn't stoke the emotions - people do. I lived 20 miles from Santa Fe High School and knew people whose kids were gunned down. Our community didn't need the media to stoke a damn thing.

Neither did the communities of Newton; Las Vegas; El Paso; Dayton; Gilroy; Virginia Beach; Charlotte; Parkland; Pittsburgh; Aurora IL; Annapolis; Orlando; Sutherland Springs; Plano; Dallas; Bethesda; Kalamazoo; San Bernadino; Colorado Springs; Lafayette; Charleston; Tyrone; Isla Vista; Overland Park; Fort Hood; the Washington Navy Yard; Saylorsburg; Los Angeles; Clackamas; oak Creek; Aurora CO; Seattle; Oakland; Chardon; Carson City; Copley township; Grand Rapids; Tucson; Manchester; Huntsville; and St. Louis.

That's about 30% of the mass shootings that have taken place in just this decade.

When poll after poll after poll shows that 90% or so of Americans favor something, they favor it. There is no stoking involved. You can take a universal background check right after a mass shooting, or betwen mass shootings, and the numbers don't change. Nor have they since at least Sandy Hook.

But universal background checks are ALWAYS stymied by one and only one entity - the NRA. Their money is just too powerful a lure for cowards like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, Moscow Mitch, Lindsay Graham, etc. etc. etc.

If 90% of Americans want something, and one organization doesn't, and that thing is then not ever done, the blame lies at the feet of that organization. Don't try to tell me otherwise.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

I get you have a hate boner for the NRA,but you're saying there's no defense/gun company lobby that works alongside them?



You're either with the shooters or you're with the victims.

The NRA is with the shooters. Who are you with?

NO ONE EVER SAYS THE GUN MANUFACTURERS KILLED UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, DO THEY?

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

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Reply #38 posted 08/21/19 9:12pm

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RodeoSchro said:



guitarslinger44 said:


RodeoSchro said:




It IS just the NRA. The media doesn't stoke the emotions - people do. I lived 20 miles from Santa Fe High School and knew people whose kids were gunned down. Our community didn't need the media to stoke a damn thing.

Neither did the communities of Newton; Las Vegas; El Paso; Dayton; Gilroy; Virginia Beach; Charlotte; Parkland; Pittsburgh; Aurora IL; Annapolis; Orlando; Sutherland Springs; Plano; Dallas; Bethesda; Kalamazoo; San Bernadino; Colorado Springs; Lafayette; Charleston; Tyrone; Isla Vista; Overland Park; Fort Hood; the Washington Navy Yard; Saylorsburg; Los Angeles; Clackamas; oak Creek; Aurora CO; Seattle; Oakland; Chardon; Carson City; Copley township; Grand Rapids; Tucson; Manchester; Huntsville; and St. Louis.

That's about 30% of the mass shootings that have taken place in just this decade.

When poll after poll after poll shows that 90% or so of Americans favor something, they favor it. There is no stoking involved. You can take a universal background check right after a mass shooting, or betwen mass shootings, and the numbers don't change. Nor have they since at least Sandy Hook.

But universal background checks are ALWAYS stymied by one and only one entity - the NRA. Their money is just too powerful a lure for cowards like unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, Moscow Mitch, Lindsay Graham, etc. etc. etc.

If 90% of Americans want something, and one organization doesn't, and that thing is then not ever done, the blame lies at the feet of that organization. Don't try to tell me otherwise.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.



I get you have a hate boner for the NRA,but you're saying there's no defense/gun company lobby that works alongside them?



You're either with the shooters or you're with the victims.

The NRA is with the shooters. Who are you with?

NO ONE EVER SAYS THE GUN MANUFACTURERS KILLED UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, DO THEY?

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.



Dude what is wrong with you...? disbelief
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Reply #39 posted 08/22/19 4:46am

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Now he said he is the 'chosen' one, maybe Satan's chosen one. evillol evillol

Free Poppy's, Bombsquad, 13, Nero, Mdiver, shanti0608, RDhull. If Glamslam can get a 2nd chance, they should be able to also. 2020=CHANGE
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Reply #40 posted 08/22/19 11:20am

RodeoSchro

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:



You're either with the shooters or you're with the victims.

The NRA is with the shooters. Who are you with?

NO ONE EVER SAYS THE GUN MANUFACTURERS KILLED UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, DO THEY?

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

Dude what is wrong with you...? disbelief




What, exactly, do you have an issue with regarding anything in my post?

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Reply #41 posted 08/22/19 5:22pm

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Remember what happened last year with the payroll tax cuts and every one ended up owing money at tax time? The same is about to happen this year too....

Free Poppy's, Bombsquad, 13, Nero, Mdiver, shanti0608, RDhull. If Glamslam can get a 2nd chance, they should be able to also. 2020=CHANGE
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Reply #42 posted 08/22/19 8:17pm

RodeoSchro

PennyPurple said:

Remember what happened last year with the payroll tax cuts and every one ended up owing money at tax time? The same is about to happen this year too....



Check me if I'm wrong, but a payroll tax cut isn't really a tax cut, correct? It just means less is withheld, but you still owe the same amount of tax at the end of the day?

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Reply #43 posted 08/23/19 4:42am

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RodeoSchro said:

PennyPurple said:

Remember what happened last year with the payroll tax cuts and every one ended up owing money at tax time? The same is about to happen this year too....



Check me if I'm wrong, but a payroll tax cut isn't really a tax cut, correct? It just means less is withheld, but you still owe the same amount of tax at the end of the day?

If it's a payroll tax cut, they take less taxes out of your check, and yes you'll still owe the same amount at the end of the year, but with less taken out of your check, you'll have to come up with the money from somewhere to make up for the shortfall.

Free Poppy's, Bombsquad, 13, Nero, Mdiver, shanti0608, RDhull. If Glamslam can get a 2nd chance, they should be able to also. 2020=CHANGE
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Reply #44 posted 08/23/19 6:31am

RodeoSchro

PennyPurple said:

RodeoSchro said:



Check me if I'm wrong, but a payroll tax cut isn't really a tax cut, correct? It just means less is withheld, but you still owe the same amount of tax at the end of the day?

If it's a payroll tax cut, they take less taxes out of your check, and yes you'll still owe the same amount at the end of the year, but with less taken out of your check, you'll have to come up with the money from somewhere to make up for the shortfall.



Exactly. So it isn't a tax cut, it'sa tax shift.

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Reply #45 posted 08/23/19 6:36am

RodeoSchro

In a shocking development that should be a surprise to absolutely no one, unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump over-reported job creation over the last 15 months by 501,000 jobs.

We created a half-million fewer jobs than we thought.

That's a mrgin of error of 15% - not small potatoes. Gee, I wonder how unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump could have missed that so badly?

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Reply #46 posted 08/23/19 9:35am

RodeoSchro

Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump slaps new tariffs on China.

China retaliates and slaps new tariffs on America.

Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump then asks, Who is our bigger enemy - the dictator of Communist China, or the American Republican that I appointed to head the Fed?

DJIA immediately drops 400 points and is now down 456 points.

Rolling one-year DJIA average return at this moment is 0.6197%. How's your 401(k) doing?

#MAGA

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Reply #47 posted 08/23/19 11:54am

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RodeoSchro said:

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said: Dude what is wrong with you...? disbelief




What, exactly, do you have an issue with regarding anything in my post?


The part where you try to insinuate that I'm "with the shooters" because I don't agree with your asinine opinion that the NRA is the only force fighting against gun measures. They're the most visible but they aren't the only one.

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Reply #48 posted 08/23/19 12:20pm

RodeoSchro

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:




What, exactly, do you have an issue with regarding anything in my post?


The part where you try to insinuate that I'm "with the shooters" because I don't agree with your asinine opinion that the NRA is the only force fighting against gun measures. They're the most visible but they aren't the only one.



The NRA supports the shooters over the victims.

If you support the NRA, then you support the shooters over the victims.

I didn't insinuate you were with the NRA; I asked who you are with. To be perfectly clear, I'm asking if you support the NRA or not. So let us know the answer to that, please.

If you can name one other organization that has been documented to have changed the mind of unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump regarding gun legislation with one phone call - as the NRA has done more than once - then I will gladly add them as organizations that support murders instead of victims.

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Reply #49 posted 08/23/19 12:28pm

RodeoSchro

RodeoSchro said:

Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump slaps new tariffs on China.

China retaliates and slaps new tariffs on America.

Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump then asks, Who is our bigger enemy - the dictator of Communist China, or the American Republican that I appointed to head the Fed?

DJIA immediately drops 400 points and is now down 456 points.

Rolling one-year DJIA average return at this moment is 0.6197%. How's your 401(k) doing?

#MAGA



DJIA down 578 points; gains from previous 12 months completely wiped out. Thirty-two minutes to the closing bell.

#MAGA

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Reply #50 posted 08/23/19 12:47pm

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RodeoSchro said:

guitarslinger44 said:


The part where you try to insinuate that I'm "with the shooters" because I don't agree with your asinine opinion that the NRA is the only force fighting against gun measures. They're the most visible but they aren't the only one.



The NRA supports the shooters over the victims.

If you support the NRA, then you support the shooters over the victims.

I didn't insinuate you were with the NRA; I asked who you are with. To be perfectly clear, I'm asking if you support the NRA or not. So let us know the answer to that, please.

If you can name one other organization that has been documented to have changed the mind of unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump regarding gun legislation with one phone call - as the NRA has done more than once - then I will gladly add them as organizations that support murders instead of victims.


I'm not a gun person but I respect the right of people to be such as long as they're responsible. I don't like the NRA either, but I also don't like your insinuations that I'm cool with kids getting murked because I don't agree with you.

Read this article, this is what I'm talking about: https://www.theatlantic.c...ut/279616/


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Reply #51 posted 08/23/19 1:10pm

RodeoSchro

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:



The NRA supports the shooters over the victims.

If you support the NRA, then you support the shooters over the victims.

I didn't insinuate you were with the NRA; I asked who you are with. To be perfectly clear, I'm asking if you support the NRA or not. So let us know the answer to that, please.

If you can name one other organization that has been documented to have changed the mind of unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump regarding gun legislation with one phone call - as the NRA has done more than once - then I will gladly add them as organizations that support murders instead of victims.


I'm not a gun person but I respect the right of people to be such as long as they're responsible. I don't like the NRA either, but I also don't like your insinuations that I'm cool with kids getting murked because I don't agree with you.

Read this article, this is what I'm talking about: https://www.theatlantic.c...ut/279616/




If you don't like the NRA then that is good.

The NRA supports the shooters, not the victims. Any other group that fights against gun regulation also supports the shooters, not the victims. That includes the NSSF, which can go fuck itself.

But nowhere has anyone - including you - provided any evidence that unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, Moscow Mitch, or any other gun nut has been bought and paid for by the NSSF as they have been by the NRA.

It's always Wayne LaPierre calling Trump's shots - not Steve Sanetti.

Therefore, all attention will be directed at the NRA, as it's clear they are far more influential than any other gun nut group.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

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Reply #52 posted 08/23/19 1:15pm

RodeoSchro

RodeoSchro said:

RodeoSchro said:

Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump slaps new tariffs on China.

China retaliates and slaps new tariffs on America.

Unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump then asks, Who is our bigger enemy - the dictator of Communist China, or the American Republican that I appointed to head the Fed?

DJIA immediately drops 400 points and is now down 456 points.

Rolling one-year DJIA average return at this moment is 0.6197%. How's your 401(k) doing?

#MAGA



DJIA down 578 points; gains from previous 12 months completely wiped out. Thirty-two minutes to the closing bell.

#MAGA



DJIA closes down 623 points, giving it a one-year rolling average of -0.11%.

DJIA is down almost 1,000 points since its January 2018 high of 26,618. Somewhere, George W. Bush is saying, "Finally!"

#MAGA

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Reply #53 posted 08/23/19 2:26pm

RodeoSchro

RodeoSchro said:

RodeoSchro said:



DJIA down 578 points; gains from previous 12 months completely wiped out. Thirty-two minutes to the closing bell.

#MAGA



DJIA closes down 623 points, giving it a one-year rolling average of -0.11%.

DJIA is down almost 1,000 points since its January 2018 high of 26,618. Somewhere, George W. Bush is saying, "Finally!"

#MAGA



And here is how much unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump thinks about your 401(k):




The Dow is down 573 points perhaps on the news that Representative Seth Moulton, whoever that may be, has dropped out of the 2020 Presidential Race!

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Reply #54 posted 08/23/19 6:00pm

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RodeoSchro said:



guitarslinger44 said:




RodeoSchro said:





The NRA supports the shooters over the victims.

If you support the NRA, then you support the shooters over the victims.

I didn't insinuate you were with the NRA; I asked who you are with. To be perfectly clear, I'm asking if you support the NRA or not. So let us know the answer to that, please.

If you can name one other organization that has been documented to have changed the mind of unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump regarding gun legislation with one phone call - as the NRA has done more than once - then I will gladly add them as organizations that support murders instead of victims.




I'm not a gun person but I respect the right of people to be such as long as they're responsible. I don't like the NRA either, but I also don't like your insinuations that I'm cool with kids getting murked because I don't agree with you.

Read this article, this is what I'm talking about: https://www.theatlantic.c...ut/279616/






If you don't like the NRA then that is good.

The NRA supports the shooters, not the victims. Any other group that fights against gun regulation also supports the shooters, not the victims. That includes the NSSF, which can go fuck itself.

But nowhere has anyone - including you - provided any evidence that unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, Moscow Mitch, or any other gun nut has been bought and paid for by the NSSF as they have been by the NRA.

It's always Wayne LaPierre calling Trump's shots - not Steve Sanetti.

Therefore, all attention will be directed at the NRA, as it's clear they are far more influential than any other gun nut group.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.



Actually Trump signed a bill the NSSF wrote in 2018 that was an initiative to get states to contribute more mental health and other disqualifying records (drug addiction, domestic abuse, etc) to the NCIS database every gun retailer is required to check before they sell a gun. Surely that can't be bad, right?

But it goes back to the point I made in another thread that a lot of laws we already have on the books are poorly enforced. States aren't required to submit records to the database because of the 10th Amendment, and if they had, it could have potentially stopped many shootings where the weapons were legally purchased.

Read the "FixNCIS"article, it's pretty interesting: https://www.nssf.org/gove...relations/

[Edited 8/23/19 18:02pm]
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Reply #55 posted 08/24/19 10:17am

RodeoSchro

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:



If you don't like the NRA then that is good.

The NRA supports the shooters, not the victims. Any other group that fights against gun regulation also supports the shooters, not the victims. That includes the NSSF, which can go fuck itself.

But nowhere has anyone - including you - provided any evidence that unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, Moscow Mitch, or any other gun nut has been bought and paid for by the NSSF as they have been by the NRA.

It's always Wayne LaPierre calling Trump's shots - not Steve Sanetti.

Therefore, all attention will be directed at the NRA, as it's clear they are far more influential than any other gun nut group.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

Actually Trump signed a bill the NSSF wrote in 2018 that was an initiative to get states to contribute more mental health and other disqualifying records (drug addiction, domestic abuse, etc) to the NCIS database every gun retailer is required to check before they sell a gun. Surely that can't be bad, right? But it goes back to the point I made in another thread that a lot of laws we already have on the books are poorly enforced. States aren't required to submit records to the database because of the 10th Amendment, and if they had, it could have potentially stopped many shootings where the weapons were legally purchased. Read the "FixNCIS"article, it's pretty interesting: https://www.nssf.org/gove...relations/ [Edited 8/23/19 18:02pm]



Your link does not take you to an article; it takes you to the Government Relations home page. Let me know which article you're referring to, thanks.

I do applaud unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump for going against the NRA's wishes and signing the Appropriations Bill that contained Fix NICS language. But FixNICs is NOT universal background checks (it's not even a new law, it's just the expansion of a current system), so let's keep our eye on the ball, shall we?

The NRA lost on FixNICS but they won on everything else, including killing a universal background law that 90% of Americans are for. That's just more proof that they are the problem.

KILL THE NRA AS AN ORGANIZATION.

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And wait just a cotton-picking minute! I just noticed that you wrote "Actually Trump signed a bill the NSSF wrote in 2018"

WTF? Are you correct in saying a GUN LOBBY wrote a United States federal law? Lobbys aren't supposed to write the bills, although I know that when the GOP is in power, they usually do.

Drain the swamp, vote out Republicans.

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Reply #56 posted 08/24/19 12:38pm

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They pushed for it, I think I might have been presumptuous to say they wrote it. But either way, it's a good idea and probably would have prevented the VA Tech and Vegas shootings had more states been on the ball with this kind of thing.

FixNCIS IS a universal background check. Every gun retailer is required to check the database before selling a weapon.thr problem is that states aren't compelled to contribute to the database, and that's a problem. Again, maybe instead of going back to square one and trying to write new laws, maybe we figure out where the existing ones have failed and try to correct.

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Reply #57 posted 08/25/19 9:15am

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usatoday

President Trump expresses regret over trade war with China, then claims he was 'misinterpreted'

...Trump said he has “no plans right now” to follow through on his threat to use a national security law to declare an emergency and force U.S. companies to leave China. But he insisted he has the authority to do so.

“If I want, I could declare a national emergency," he said. But, “actually, we’re getting along very well with China right now. ... So we’ll see what happens.”


WowWowWow. National Emergency is the plan B for everything.

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Reply #58 posted 08/25/19 5:06pm

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I don't think Trump cares how he gets things done as long as he gets them done. I don't agree with with his methods, but his people seem good with it no matter how it gets done.
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Reply #59 posted 08/26/19 6:35am

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From the genius desk -

Trump reportedly suggested using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from striking the US

  • President Donald Trump has reportedly suggested dropping nuclear bombs into hurricanes to stop them from causing damage to the US.

  • According to the news website Axios, Trump suggested the idea during a hurricane briefing at the White House, saying something along the lines of "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?"

  • The report said people who were in the room when Trump made the suggestion were shocked and thought "What the f---? What do we do with this?"

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