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Reply #30 posted 09/12/19 3:46pm

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Number of killed in Afghanistan

USA: 2,313*
UK: 456
Canada: 157*
France: 90
Germany: 57
Italy: 53
Poland: 44[2]
Denmark: 43
Australia: 41
Spain: 35*
Georgia: 32
Romania: 26
Netherlands: 25
Turkey: 15
Czech Republic: 14
New Zealand: 10
Norway: 10
Estonia: 9
Hungary: 7
Sweden: 5
Latvia: 4
Slovakia: 3
Finland: 2
Jordan: 2
Portugal: 2
South Korea: 2
Albania: 1
Belgium: 1

Croatia: 1
Lithuania: 1
Montenegro: 1

TOTAL: 3,458

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Reply #31 posted 09/12/19 3:50pm

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan

United States[edit]

Since the start of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan through mid-2019, nearly 2,400 American servicemembers have died.[160] Additionally, over 20,000 U.S. service members have been wounded in hostile action, according to the Defense Department.[3][160]

Of the United States deaths, 1,892 have died in hostile action. Included in these numbers are 17 CIA operatives that were killed in Afghanistan: 17 by hostile fire, including seven in a suicide bomb attack on a military base, and one in an accident.[3][4] The independent website iCasualties has put the total number of U.S. deaths at 2,313.[161] This number is by 9 higher than the Department of Defense's tally which is 2,304, when including the intelligence operatives.[3]

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Reply #32 posted 09/12/19 3:51pm

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JorisE73 said:

PennyPurple said:

What do you think we've been trying to do for 18 years? It hasn't worked. We've tried to train their troops, we've given them weapons, we help them at every turn, and IN turn the ones that we've given weapons to, and trained have turned against us and kill us. The middle east is so destabilized with the warring factions, and we will never be able to control that, we were never able to control and never will be.


What has your country done to help?


lol The Netherlands are actually succesfully rebuilding the mess the US made since 2002 and will stay there for the time being. The sad thing is is that the Dutch troops are dependant on US support.

Netherlands[edit]

Main article: Task Force Uruzgan

A total of 25 Dutch servicemen were killed in Afghanistan.[55] The first two Dutch fatalities were soldiers killed in an accidental helicopter crash in 2006. Since then, one pilot died in a non-hostile F-16 crash, and one soldier committed suicide at Kamp Holland. In 2007, one soldier was accidentally killed when a Patria armoured vehicle overturned at a river crossing near Tarin Kowt in Uruzgan. After that 19 soldiers were killed in action between 2007 and 2010. Finally, the last soldier to die was from an illness a month before the contingent withdrew from the country in December 2010. 140 soldiers were wounded in action.[56]

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Reply #33 posted 09/12/19 11:45pm

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PennyPurple said:

JorisE73 said:


lol The Netherlands are actually succesfully rebuilding the mess the US made since 2002 and will stay there for the time being. The sad thing is is that the Dutch troops are dependant on US support.

Netherlands[edit]

Main article: Task Force Uruzgan

A total of 25 Dutch servicemen were killed in Afghanistan.[55] The first two Dutch fatalities were soldiers killed in an accidental helicopter crash in 2006. Since then, one pilot died in a non-hostile F-16 crash, and one soldier committed suicide at Kamp Holland. In 2007, one soldier was accidentally killed when a Patria armoured vehicle overturned at a river crossing near Tarin Kowt in Uruzgan. After that 19 soldiers were killed in action between 2007 and 2010. Finally, the last soldier to die was from an illness a month before the contingent withdrew from the country in December 2010. 140 soldiers were wounded in action.[56]

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And why is this info relevant?

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Reply #34 posted 09/13/19 1:28am

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Why is this thread a sticky?

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Reply #35 posted 09/13/19 4:43am

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JorisE73 said:

PennyPurple said:

Netherlands[edit]

Main article: Task Force Uruzgan

A total of 25 Dutch servicemen were killed in Afghanistan.[55] The first two Dutch fatalities were soldiers killed in an accidental helicopter crash in 2006. Since then, one pilot died in a non-hostile F-16 crash, and one soldier committed suicide at Kamp Holland. In 2007, one soldier was accidentally killed when a Patria armoured vehicle overturned at a river crossing near Tarin Kowt in Uruzgan. After that 19 soldiers were killed in action between 2007 and 2010. Finally, the last soldier to die was from an illness a month before the contingent withdrew from the country in December 2010. 140 soldiers were wounded in action.[56]

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And why is this info relevant?

It's relevant to show who has the most troops and who has lost the most troops. Everyone wants the US to police all things, but when we want out, look at the complaints. From basically the small countries like yours, who have very little troops there and have lost very little.

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Reply #36 posted 09/14/19 9:45am

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jaawwnn said:

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That is something president Obama expressed, that people want the US to risk the lives of our people, even though the problems affect everyone

At face value this is either the most naive take in existence or just more pro empire rhetoric.

lol if you say so

but what he said was true, he said everyone should be involved that affect them

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Reply #37 posted 09/14/19 9:46am

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interesting numbers

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Reply #38 posted 09/16/19 1:02am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

interesting numbers

Interesting Indeed....

The numbers meant nothing to me until I googled Troop..

and found there can be as many as 250 Soldiers in a troop....

so on the strength of that..

The USA may have as many as 2,118,750 Soldiers in Afghanistan..!!!!!

Even if its 25 % of that number, keeping them all armed clothed housed and fed,

must cost a pretty penny....

Suddenly I understand why Tulsi Gabbard is suggesting that

America pull out of afghanistan and divest those monies back

into the health and wellbeing of the American People..

WHat a crazy Idea...

but I digress...

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Reply #39 posted 09/16/19 2:15am

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JorisE73 said:


And why is this info relevant?

It's relevant to show who has the most troops and who has lost the most troops. Everyone wants the US to police all things, but when we want out, look at the complaints. From basically the small countries like yours, who have very little troops there and have lost very little.


Well, we didn't make the mess there, The US on the other hand.
The Netehrlands doesn't need the US to police anyting we just want the US to stop dicking around and clean the mess tehy left.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

jaawwnn said:

OldFriends4Sale said: At face value this is either the most naive take in existence or just more pro empire rhetoric.

lol if you say so

but what he said was true, he said everyone should be involved that affect them

So if the US starts another war everyone else is obliged to wage it? I don't think so.

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Reply #41 posted 09/16/19 6:42am

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jaawwnn said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol if you say so

but what he said was true, he said everyone should be involved that affect them

So if the US starts another war everyone else is obliged to wage it? I don't think so.

that is usually how it goes

President Obama also said everyone should be involved in dealing with Islamic terrorism and ISIS

And it is true

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Reply #42 posted 09/16/19 9:12am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

jaawwnn said:

So if the US starts another war everyone else is obliged to wage it? I don't think so.

that is usually how it goes

President Obama also said everyone should be involved in dealing with Islamic terrorism and ISIS

And it is true

You're simplifying very, very complicated issues - like how it can be pretty much definitely demonstrated that ISIS were created directly by US interventions in the area, not to mention how many "Islamac" terrorists they encouraged.

How many deals did the US strike with middle-eastern governments from the 60s-present only to renege on them when it suited? No I say, the answer is not more meddling, more phony deals, more military bases, the answer is less: less interventions, less war, less "oh we were basically forced to drop bombs on your civilians."

So the best way for everyone to deal with Islamic terrorism and ISIS is to stop helping the conditions that created them in the first place and that involves not supporting endless wars.

That's how it goes.




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Reply #43 posted 09/16/19 10:48am

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jaawwnn said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

that is usually how it goes

President Obama also said everyone should be involved in dealing with Islamic terrorism and ISIS

And it is true

You're simplifying very, very complicated issues - like how it can be pretty much definitely demonstrated that ISIS were created directly by US interventions in the area, not to mention how many "Islamac" terrorists they encouraged.

How many deals did the US strike with middle-eastern governments from the 60s-present only to renege on them when it suited? No I say, the answer is not more meddling, more phony deals, more military bases, the answer is less: less interventions, less war, less "oh we were basically forced to drop bombs on your civilians."

So the best way for everyone to deal with Islamic terrorism and ISIS is to stop helping the conditions that created them in the first place and that involves not supporting endless wars.

That's how it goes.




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Of course I am. Long extended posts in forums like this are lost.

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