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Reply #300 posted 08/11/19 11:37am

PeggyO

Please stop focusing on which predator was a Democrat or a Republican...they are equally represented here.

This is about the abuse of power and privilege (and narcissism)

There is a broader and deeper situation.

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Reply #301 posted 08/11/19 11:44am

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2freaky4church1 said:

You like pedophile rapists? Karma is a bitch,

watch it... but No I do not. and that is why his death is bad. If you think his death is good then you are either not grasping something or need to look in that karma mirror...

Antifa: are Fascist. People are fooled by their name! They carry out acts of violence to instill fear in order to push a political agenda or combat one. Do you support them?
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Reply #302 posted 08/11/19 11:46am

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PeggyO said:

Please stop focusing on which predator was a Democrat or a Republican...they are equally represented here.

This is about the abuse of power and privilege (and narcissism)

There is a broader and deeper situation.

[Edited 8/11/19 11:42am]

Yeah, I do not know why they are. And I am troubled that one poster doesn't seem to grasp that now that he is dead many other predators may never see justice.

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Reply #303 posted 08/11/19 11:56am

PeggyO

OnlyNDaUsa said:

PeggyO said:

Please stop focusing on which predator was a Democrat or a Republican...they are equally represented here.

This is about the abuse of power and privilege (and narcissism)

There is a broader and deeper situation.

[Edited 8/11/19 11:42am]

Yeah, I do not know why they are. And I am troubled that one poster doesn't seem to grasp that now that he is dead many other predators may never see justice.

I know we focus on the evil Republicans (btw I am a Democrat), but there are some alleged prominent Democrats implicated in this Epstein mess:

-Bill Richardson

-George Mitchell

-Bill Clinton was known to hang with Epstein...not sure if he is implicated.

PS: Harvey Weinstein was a Democrat

-One of the fired,elite NPR execs was a Democrat

Shall I continue?

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Reply #304 posted 08/11/19 8:24pm

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Someone posted on twitter a list of all the Republicans that have been convicted of pedophilia. I'll say here what I said there: While I don't support Republicans, to insinuate that it is only Republicans that engage in pedophilia, is very disingenuous. As a survivor, pedophiles cover all races, religions, political affiliations, and socioeconomic backgrounds. Let's not politicize pedophilia, please.

To add to that: We need to not lose focus on the victims in this case. Epstein killed himself, and that can't be undone, but the FBI removed a lot of files from Epstein's safe, which had "Young (name) + Name" on many of them. They have the evidence. Are there some that will get away with what they did? Maybe. But let's take as many of those assholes down as possible. They can get the ones that they do have evidence on, and I'm sure Epstein kept a lot of evidence to use against these people when he needed a favor (like getting a plea deal). He knew there were not enough favors in the world to get him off this time.

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Reply #305 posted 08/12/19 7:12am

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benni said:

Someone posted on twitter a list of all the Republicans that have been convicted of pedophilia. I'll say here what I said there: While I don't support Republicans, to insinuate that it is only Republicans that engage in pedophilia, is very disingenuous. As a survivor, pedophiles cover all races, religions, political affiliations, and socioeconomic backgrounds. Let's not politicize pedophilia, please.

To add to that: We need to not lose focus on the victims in this case. Epstein killed himself, and that can't be undone, but the FBI removed a lot of files from Epstein's safe, which had "Young (name) + Name" on many of them. They have the evidence. Are there some that will get away with what they did? Maybe. But let's take as many of those assholes down as possible. They can get the ones that they do have evidence on, and I'm sure Epstein kept a lot of evidence to use against these people when he needed a favor (like getting a plea deal). He knew there were not enough favors in the world to get him off this time.


nod I think that there will be (if there aren't already) civil suits going forward against Epstein's estate. SDNY can prosecute co-conspirators if there is enough evidence.

"Families are torn apart, men women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find their parents have gone missing." - Anne Frank
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Reply #306 posted 08/12/19 1:25pm

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benni said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




2freaky4church1 said:


Donald Trump's friend you mean? Are you well?





the one he banned from his resort? the one with a much closer relationship with bill clinton? maybe////




So the Clinton's have so much pull that they can murder all these people, but she could not win the election? Think, man, think.

If Clinton had any kind of pull, was still involved in politics, do you honestly think she would have spent all that money to campaign only to end up NOT winning the presidency? Are you kidding?

Neither Bill nor Hillary are involved in politics any longer.

The one person to really look at is Bill Barr. DOJ is under Barr now. Clinton could not order for there to be no suicide watch. Barr could, though. Barr's old lawfirm represented Epstein. Barr's fahter HIRED Epstein to teach, even though Epstein had never gotten a teaching degree (or any college degree). Now, why would someone give a man with NO degree a job that requires a degree?


Oh you didn’t know.. for him everything is the Clintons’ fault. It’s the excuse used for every republican.

But seriously, I’m sure as the investigation into the case against Epstein, and his death continues, we will see a whole lot of unexpected names dropping.
To the Latino, Black American and Caribbean communities in America. You are the communities trump dislikes and degrades. Use your vote to vote trump out of office.
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Reply #307 posted 08/12/19 4:17pm

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2elijah said:

benni said:


So the Clinton's have so much pull that they can murder all these people, but she could not win the election? Think, man, think.

If Clinton had any kind of pull, was still involved in politics, do you honestly think she would have spent all that money to campaign only to end up NOT winning the presidency? Are you kidding?

Neither Bill nor Hillary are involved in politics any longer.

The one person to really look at is Bill Barr. DOJ is under Barr now. Clinton could not order for there to be no suicide watch. Barr could, though. Barr's old lawfirm represented Epstein. Barr's fahter HIRED Epstein to teach, even though Epstein had never gotten a teaching degree (or any college degree). Now, why would someone give a man with NO degree a job that requires a degree?

Oh you didn’t know.. for him everything is the Clintons’ fault. It’s the excuse used for every republican. But seriously, I’m sure as the investigation into the case against Epstein, and his death continues, we will see a whole lot of unexpected names dropping.

Bottom line is Epstein tried to off himself before and they took their eye off him and so he did it. He was GUILTY and a COWARD.

"Families are torn apart, men women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find their parents have gone missing." - Anne Frank
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Reply #308 posted 08/12/19 6:05pm

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Has anyone heard anything about Barr visiting him and few days later he's dead?

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Reply #309 posted 08/13/19 2:17am

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Fuck Jeffrey Epstein.
I think this finally proves how deep and wide this is.
Imagine all the victims this has happened to.
The idea that all these victims of child abuse commit suicide is the real scandal.
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #310 posted 08/13/19 6:50am

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PeggyO said:


Please stop focusing on which predator was a Democrat or a Republican...they are equally represented here.


This is about the abuse of power and privilege (and narcissism)


There is a broader and deeper situation.

[Edited 8/11/19 11:42am]


Thank you.
I have briefly scanned the comments and it’s just centrists trying to gain political points over each other.
That’s all they ever care about.
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #311 posted 08/14/19 12:38am

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This is going around on face book...

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Reply #312 posted 08/14/19 12:42am

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My facebook is blowing up...

Image result for epstein's dead body on a gurney

Image result for epstein's dead body on a gurney

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #313 posted 08/14/19 1:04am

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Lovejunky said:

My facebook is blowing up...



Image result for epstein's dead body on a gurney


Image result for epstein's dead body on a gurney



Possible.
It’s a dark twisted web that takes an intersection of many people.
Some people call it conspiracy.
Call it what you want.


https://www.google.com.au...utType=amp

Du Pont heir dodged prison for raping 3-year-old daughter after judge ruled he 'would not fare well' behind bars

A du Pont family heir who pleaded guilty nearly six years ago to raping his 3-year-old daughter was never put behind bars because a Delaware judge ruled he "would not fare well" in prison, court records show.
Robert H. Richards IV — scion of the family who built the chemical empire and kin to the co-founders of a prestigious law firm, Richards Layton & Finger — was given eight years probation and was ordered to seek treatment after being convicted of fourth-degree rape in 2008, the records show.



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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #314 posted 08/14/19 1:21am

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hausofmoi7 said:

Possible. It’s a dark twisted web that takes an intersection of many people. Some people call it conspiracy. Call it what you want. https://www.google.com.au...utType=amp Du Pont heir dodged prison for raping 3-year-old daughter after judge ruled he 'would not fare well' behind bars A du Pont family heir who pleaded guilty nearly six years ago to raping his 3-year-old daughter was never put behind bars because a Delaware judge ruled he "would not fare well" in prison, court records show. Robert H. Richards IV — scion of the family who built the chemical empire and kin to the co-founders of a prestigious law firm, Richards Layton & Finger — was given eight years probation and was ordered to seek treatment after being convicted of fourth-degree rape in 2008, the records show. . [Edited 8/14/19 1:06am]

Makes my blood boil....

a 3 year old...seriously effed up..

he should be castrated...

and the judge ...?? No words..

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #315 posted 08/14/19 9:34am

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Lovejunky said:

hausofmoi7 said:

Possible. It’s a dark twisted web that takes an intersection of many people. Some people call it conspiracy. Call it what you want. https://www.google.com.au...utType=amp Du Pont heir dodged prison for raping 3-year-old daughter after judge ruled he 'would not fare well' behind bars A du Pont family heir who pleaded guilty nearly six years ago to raping his 3-year-old daughter was never put behind bars because a Delaware judge ruled he "would not fare well" in prison, court records show. Robert H. Richards IV — scion of the family who built the chemical empire and kin to the co-founders of a prestigious law firm, Richards Layton & Finger — was given eight years probation and was ordered to seek treatment after being convicted of fourth-degree rape in 2008, the records show. . [Edited 8/14/19 1:06am]

Makes my blood boil....

a 3 year old...seriously effed up..

he should be castrated...

and the judge ...?? No words..

He should be taken out back and shot. Plain and simple.
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Reply #316 posted 08/14/19 12:37pm

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AP - New York's Child Victims Act went into effect Wednesday, opening a one-year window during which some victims of childhood sexual abuse can sue outside the statute of limitations.

Jeffrey Epstein's estate has been sued by a woman who says she was raped by him when she was a high school student — after a New York law on Wednesday went into effect and opened a one-year window for people 55 and younger whose childhood sexual abuse claims fall outside the statute of limitations to take legal action.

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Reply #317 posted 08/15/19 4:04am

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poppys said:

AP - New York's Child Victims Act went into effect Wednesday, opening a one-year window during which some victims of childhood sexual abuse can sue outside the statute of limitations.



Jeffrey Epstein's estate has been sued by a woman who says she was raped by him when she was a high school student — after a New York law on Wednesday went into effect and opened a one-year window for people 55 and younger whose childhood sexual abuse claims fall outside the statute of limitations to take legal action.


I saw this it’s great.
Whilst non-violent political activists are currently being targeted and designated as potential terrorists by elites (anti-war, anti-racist, socialists, communists and even some political groups I don’t agree with)
Groups such as NAMBLA and it’s affiliates around the world who are actual terrorists by definition I.e causing harm to civilians in an effort to achieve a political (or social) outcome are instead given the status of being a political/social advocacy group.
Even more so these groups appear to actually receive the kind of protections and support that people would be surprised to know.
It spans the spectrum of society and these people appear to stick together irrespective of other differences they may have socially, politically or otherwise.

I’m sure there many people who have been also warned not to peruse justice because that its not a battle that can be won and to just leave it alone, and told “you don’t know what your messing with”

Reducing the age of consent is an actual thing.
Those who oppose it are branded “simple minded”, because the counter argument is that somehow you are denying kids personal agency.
I think that is actually the simple minded argument.



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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #318 posted 08/15/19 7:53am

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Sexual assault is a pervasive problem in the United States, including in the Armed Forces. Public beliefs and attitudes about sexual assault lead to complacency and acceptance of a “rape culture” in the United States where rape is normalized, excused, tolerated, and even condoned. This acceptance creates an environment that makes it nearly impossible for sexual assault victims, in both the military and civilian systems, to obtain justice and discourages them from reporting and seeking help.

https://www.bwjp.org/our-...ssult.html


Both men and women are victims of sexual assault perpetrated by military service members. However, nearly 25% of women veterans who seek health care services from the Department of Veterans Affairs report experiencing at least one sexual assault while in the military compared to slightly more than 1% of male veterans. Women who enter the military at younger ages, those of enlisted rank, and those who experienced sexual assault prior to entering the military, appear to be at increased risk of sexual assault while in the military.
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #319 posted 08/15/19 7:57am

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Former high-ranking Australian Navy officer found guilty of historical child sex offences

https://www.msn.com/en-au...ailsignout


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“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #320 posted 08/15/19 8:12am

Musicslave

https://thehill.com/homen...ns-mystery

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Report: Epstein autopsy finds several broken bones in neck, raising questions

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Reply #321 posted 08/15/19 9:29am

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Here's an interview with his former bodyguard that some of you might find very interesting. I know I did:

http://nymag.com/intellig...-boss.html


Hold on. When did you find out he died?

Saturday or Sunday or whenever.

What did you think when you found that out?

What did I think?

Yeah.

Are you sure you want to hear what I am going to think?

Yeah.

Somebody helped him to do that.

You think somebody helped him kill himself?

Yeah.

Okay. Why?

Listen, you know, that’s going a little too deep.

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Reply #322 posted 08/16/19 10:05pm

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Medical examiner rules Epstein death a suicide by hanging

By MICHAEL R. SISAK, MICHAEL BALSAMO and LARRY NEUMEISTER, Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — New York City's medical examiner ruled Jeffrey Epstein's death a suicide Friday, confirming after nearly a week of speculation that the financier faced with sex trafficking charges hanged himself in his jail cell.

Epstein, 66, was found dead at the Metropolitan Correctional Center on Aug. 10, touching off outrage that such a high-profile prisoner could have gone unwatched at the Manhattan federal lockup where infamous inmates Mexican drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman and Wall Street swindler Bernard Madoff came and went without incident.

Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Barbara Sampson said in a statement that she made the suicide determination "after careful review of all investigative information, including complete autopsy findings."

Sampson's announcement came as a Justice Department official told The Associated Press that some prison staffers believed to have relevant information aren't cooperating with investigators.

Epstein's lawyers said they were "not satisfied" with Sampson's conclusions and that they would conduct their own investigation, including seeking to obtain any video of the area around Epstein's cell from the time leading to his death.

Epstein, arrested July 6 and jailed since, was found dead with a bedsheet around his neck less than 24 hours after more than 2,000 pages of documents were made public from a since-settled lawsuit against an ex-girlfriend alleged to be his aide-de-camp. The documents included graphic allegations against Epstein and a 2016 deposition in which he refused to answer questions to avoid incriminating himself.

At the time of Epstein's death, the Bureau of Prisons said he had apparently killed himself. But that did not squelch conspiracy theories , including one retweeted by President Donald Trump that speculated Epstein was murdered.

What emerged in the days that followed, however, was not evidence of a sinister plot, but early signs that prison staff failed to properly secure and monitor a prisoner, leading to ferocious criticism by everyone from Attorney General William Barr to Epstein's lawyers.

Jail guards on Epstein's unit failed to check on him every half hour, as required, and are suspected of falsifying log entries to show they had, according to several people familiar with the matter. Both were working overtime because of staffing shortages, the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they lacked authorization to publicly discuss the investigation.

Epstein, who was charged with sexually abusing numerous underage girls over several years, had been placed on suicide watch last month after he was found on his cell floor July 23 with bruises on his neck.

Multiple people familiar with operations at the jail say Epstein was taken off the watch after about a week and put back in a high-security housing unit where he was less closely monitored, but still supposed to be checked on every 30 minutes.

Barr says officials have uncovered "serious irregularities" at the jail. The FBI and the Justice Department's inspector general are investigating.

"It is indisputable that the authorities violated their own protocols," Epstein's lawyers said in a statement late Friday, calling the conditions in the unit where Epstein spent his final hours, "harsh, even medieval."

In the wake of Epstein's death, federal prosecutors have shifted their focus to possible charges against anyone who assisted or enabled him in what authorities say was rampant sexual abuse. Barr, on Monday, warned that "any co-conspirators should not rest easy."

Authorities are most likely turning their attention to the team of recruiters and employees who, according to police reports, knew about Epstein's penchant for underage girls and lined up victims for him.

The Associated Press reviewed hundreds of page...ce reports , FBI records and court documents that show Epstein relied on an entire staff of associates to arrange massages that led to sex acts.

Meanwhile, the investigation into Epstein's death is being hampered because some people, including jail staff members who are believed to have information pertinent to the probe, aren't cooperating and have not yet been interviewed by the FBI, according to a Justice Department official.

The official said the FBI has repeatedly sought interviews with staff members but those interviews are being delayed by union representatives. The official was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.

One possible roadblock to further charges is the controversial plea agreement Epstein struck more than a decade ago in Florida . The non-prosecution agreement not only allowed Epstein to plead guilty in 2008 to lesser state charges and serve just 13 months behind bars, it also shielded from prosecution several Epstein associates who allegedly were paid to recruit girls for him.

The AP often does not report details of suicide methods but has made an exception because Epstein's cause of death is pertinent to the ongoing investigations.

The Washington Post and The New York Times reported Thursday that the autopsy revealed that a bone in Epstein's neck had been broken, leading to speculation his death was a homicide. Sampson responded that "no single finding can be evaluated in a vacuum" and experts said the bone in question often breaks in suicidal hangings.

Autopsy reports are not public records in New York, and the details of the medical examiner's finding, or the evidence she relied upon, were not immediately available.

An office telephone number for Dr. Michael Baden, the pathologist hired by Epstein's representatives to observe the autopsy, repeatedly rang unanswered on Friday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/medical-examiner-rules-epstein-death-a-suicide-by-hanging/ar-AAFU4YS?ocid=spartanntp

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Reply #323 posted 08/17/19 6:15am

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It was officially suicide. Let's end the conspiracy theories.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #324 posted 08/19/19 2:13am

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2freaky4church1 said:

It was officially suicide. Let's end the conspiracy theories.

I'll never believe it was suicide tbh.

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Reply #325 posted 08/19/19 5:17pm

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He made a new will 2 days before he died.

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