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Reply #150 posted 06/29/19 10:32am

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benni said:

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benni said: Imagine the outrage if Obama had been accused by 16 or more women of rape, sexual assault or battery, especially if most of the accusers were White women ? Imaging that scenario allows you to see how much Trump has been given a pass over these very same allegations


Exactly. You saw the outrage over Bill Clinton on the right. You saw the outrage on the right for Al Franken for a photograph in which he mimes grabbing her breasts. You saw the outrage on the right for John Edwards having an extra marital affair and using campaign funds. Trump is accused and you see them rally around him. Roy Moore is accused of pedophilia, and many on the right (including our president) continued to endorse him.

It's disgusting how they rally around their own, and if you look at Wikipedia for "List of federal political sex scandals in the United States" while there are quite a few democrats, the majority are republicans. From 2010 to 2018, twelve Republican officials were accused or found to have had sex scandals tied to them, while only five Democrats have had a sex scandal.

Of the twelve Republicans, two sent nude photos and/or sexually explicit emails; one was improper conduct (he resigned before investigation ended; two were for sexual harrassment; one was for sexually abusing boys; and two were for sexual assault (Trump and Kavanaugh), four were extra marital affairs (one of which asked his mistress to get an abortion).

For the Democrats, one was "groping and tickling male staffers". One was sending nude photos of himself to women on social media. Two were making unwanted sexual advances. Al Franken was one.

Just shows Republicans are closet freaks or outright criminal when it comes to others.

Obama would have not only likely been impeached over these allegations, he might have been lynched !

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Reply #151 posted 06/29/19 10:45am

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Exactly. You saw the outrage over Bill Clinton on the right. You saw the outrage on the right for Al Franken for a photograph in which he mimes grabbing her breasts. You saw the outrage on the right for John Edwards having an extra marital affair and using campaign funds. Trump is accused and you see them rally around him. Roy Moore is accused of pedophilia, and many on the right (including our president) continued to endorse him.

It's disgusting how they rally around their own, and if you look at Wikipedia for "List of federal political sex scandals in the United States" while there are quite a few democrats, the majority are republicans. From 2010 to 2018, twelve Republican officials were accused or found to have had sex scandals tied to them, while only five Democrats have had a sex scandal.

Of the twelve Republicans, two sent nude photos and/or sexually explicit emails; one was improper conduct (he resigned before investigation ended; two were for sexual harrassment; one was for sexually abusing boys; and two were for sexual assault (Trump and Kavanaugh), four were extra marital affairs (one of which asked his mistress to get an abortion).

For the Democrats, one was "groping and tickling male staffers". One was sending nude photos of himself to women on social media. Two were making unwanted sexual advances. Al Franken was one.

Just shows Republicans are closet freaks or outright criminals when it comes to others.


Obama would have not only likely been impeached over these allegations, he might have been lynched !


The in plain sight assault on minorities and women is ON. They are banking on controlling everyone they require services from.


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Reply #152 posted 06/29/19 11:27am

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jjhunsecker said:

benni said:


Exactly. You saw the outrage over Bill Clinton on the right. You saw the outrage on the right for Al Franken for a photograph in which he mimes grabbing her breasts. You saw the outrage on the right for John Edwards having an extra marital affair and using campaign funds. Trump is accused and you see them rally around him. Roy Moore is accused of pedophilia, and many on the right (including our president) continued to endorse him.

It's disgusting how they rally around their own, and if you look at Wikipedia for "List of federal political sex scandals in the United States" while there are quite a few democrats, the majority are republicans. From 2010 to 2018, twelve Republican officials were accused or found to have had sex scandals tied to them, while only five Democrats have had a sex scandal.

Of the twelve Republicans, two sent nude photos and/or sexually explicit emails; one was improper conduct (he resigned before investigation ended; two were for sexual harrassment; one was for sexually abusing boys; and two were for sexual assault (Trump and Kavanaugh), four were extra marital affairs (one of which asked his mistress to get an abortion).

For the Democrats, one was "groping and tickling male staffers". One was sending nude photos of himself to women on social media. Two were making unwanted sexual advances. Al Franken was one.

Just shows Republicans are closet freaks or outright criminal when it comes to others.

Obama would have not only likely been impeached over these allegations, he might have been lynched !




Interestingly enough, a chickenshit supporter of that fat fuck/possible pedophile Alex Jones suggested just a couple days ago that President Obama should be lynched (although for different reasons than this).

cborgman posted the link to the article over on the "Alex Jones is a Fat Fuck and Possible Pedophile" thread.

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Reply #153 posted 06/29/19 11:55am

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^^ I saw that.

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Reply #154 posted 06/30/19 5:17pm

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benni said:



guitarslinger44 said:


RodeoSchro said:




She claimed he penetrated her. That's rape. Are we going to accept rape, or are we not?

https://www.usatoday.com/...546559001/

She said he then pulled down her tights and undid his pants, "forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway – or completely, I’m not certain – inside me."



Fair enough, I guess what I'd rwsd left out some of the details. Thenage we live in... That said, no one's saying we should accept rape, you're just strawmanning if you think that.


And yet, nothing is being done. Republican lawmakers are saying (for example, Lindsey Graham) "Well, he said he didn't do. That's good enough for me." In essence, yes, rape is being accepted, and in the highest offices of our land.



He's the president, and the DoJ doesn't being charges against sitting presidents. So the soonest they'd be able to bring charges against him would be after he leaves office.

[Edited 6/30/19 17:23pm]
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Reply #155 posted 06/30/19 5:49pm

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And yet, nothing is being done. Republican lawmakers are saying (for example, Lindsey Graham) "Well, he said he didn't do. That's good enough for me." In essence, yes, rape is being accepted, and in the highest offices of our land.

He's the president, and the DoJ doesn't being charges against sitting presidents. So the soonest they'd be able to bring charges against him would be after he leaves office. [Edited 6/30/19 17:23pm]


They can investigate, and if found to be true, impeachment proceedings can be started. But, he owns the DOJ now and has his own shield within the DOJ (Barr), so he won't be investigated. Instead, Barr is investigating Trump's so called "enemies".

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Reply #156 posted 06/30/19 6:36pm

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benni said:



guitarslinger44 said:


benni said:



And yet, nothing is being done. Republican lawmakers are saying (for example, Lindsey Graham) "Well, he said he didn't do. That's good enough for me." In essence, yes, rape is being accepted, and in the highest offices of our land.



He's the president, and the DoJ doesn't being charges against sitting presidents. So the soonest they'd be able to bring charges against him would be after he leaves office. [Edited 6/30/19 17:23pm]


They can investigate, and if found to be true, impeachment proceedings can be started. But, he owns the DOJ now and has his own shield within the DOJ (Barr), so he won't be investigated. Instead, Barr is investigating Trump's so called "enemies".



They can't investigate something that happened before he was president. As far as I know that's outside their jurisdiction unless it's related to his presidency and even then... Trump is a shitbag and this likely happened thrbway she said, but it's not something he could be impeached for and it isn't something the DoJ would likely investigate even if they could.
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Reply #157 posted 06/30/19 7:05pm

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benni said:


They can investigate, and if found to be true, impeachment proceedings can be started. But, he owns the DOJ now and has his own shield within the DOJ (Barr), so he won't be investigated. Instead, Barr is investigating Trump's so called "enemies".

They can't investigate something that happened before he was president. As far as I know that's outside their jurisdiction unless it's related to his presidency and even then... Trump is a shitbag and this likely happened thrbway she said, but it's not something he could be impeached for and it isn't something the DoJ would likely investigate even if they could.

Yes, he can. But unfortunately, it would fall to New York, and under the law when the rape occured, that statute of limitations was 5 years. So New York's hands are tied. Even though they no longer have a statute of limitations on rape, at the time this was said to happen they did, and they cannot apply the law retroactively.

But Congress can investigate because this shows a pattern of behavior with Trump. And yes, if he were found to have commited a crime, I'm thinking they could impeach him. There is no set precedent, and it would be upon them to set that precedent.

"The impeachment process allows the House of Representatives to file formal charges against a federal official. Once filed, the Senate conducts a trial. If the official is convicted of the impeachment charges, he or she is automatically removed from office. What is unclear is whether the impeachment process can be used to address misconduct alleged to have occurred before the official took office. No law definitively speaks to the founding father’s intent in this regard and historical use of the process is somewhat conflicting on this point."

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Reply #158 posted 06/30/19 9:11pm

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There's no evidence he did this other than this woman's word. Like i said, I believe it happened the way she said it did, but what do you expect to be done about it? I get why she wouldn't have come forward, but it's too little too late at this point.
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Reply #159 posted 07/01/19 7:13am

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No evidence, riiiight. You are ignoring at least 15 other accounts and well versed in all the talking points. Here's a nice little gif of Trump feeling up his own daughter at the RNC.



See the source image

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Reply #160 posted 07/01/19 7:39am

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guitarslinger44 said:

There's no evidence he did this other than this woman's word. Like i said, I believe it happened the way she said it did, but what do you expect to be done about it? I get why she wouldn't have come forward, but it's too little too late at this point. [Edited 6/30/19 21:13pm]

I don't think it's EVER too late to discuss a sexual assault/rape. Yes, maybe nothing will get done, but one person coming forward encourages others too, it encourages women to think about their pasts, when maybe they kept quiet for whatever reason, and the fact that it is their life experience - if they want to share it then they can, if not then that's also fine. It's not about what might be done about it, it's about having the strength to come forward and say, " This is my life, and this happened to me", and to not be afraid of the consequences. I think we're a long way from that yet, especially where powerful men are involved.

If you're going to refer to people as 'scum', at least have a reason to do so.
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Reply #161 posted 07/01/19 7:49am

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guitarslinger44 said:

There's no evidence he did this other than this woman's word. Like i said, I believe it happened the way she said it did, but what do you expect to be done about it? I get why she wouldn't have come forward, but it's too little too late at this point. [Edited 6/30/19 21:13pm]


That's why Congress needs to investigate. There is a Congressman calling out for that, btw, but Peolosi says no. And as I said, there is no precedent at this time on whether a sitting president can be impeached for crimes commited prior to getting into office, and this would allow Congress to set that precedent.

She says she kept the clothes from that incident. I don't know how much DNA degrades over time, but if she had not cleaned them, there might still be evidence?

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Reply #162 posted 07/01/19 9:47am

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poppys said:

No evidence, riiiight. You are ignoring at least 15 other accounts and well versed in all the talking points. Here's a nice little gif of Trump feeling up his own daughter at the RNC.



See the source image

My god, he is such a repulsive slob of a molester and rapist. LOCK HIM UP.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #163 posted 07/02/19 3:38pm

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benni said:



guitarslinger44 said:


There's no evidence he did this other than this woman's word. Like i said, I believe it happened the way she said it did, but what do you expect to be done about it? I get why she wouldn't have come forward, but it's too little too late at this point. [Edited 6/30/19 21:13pm]


That's why Congress needs to investigate. There is a Congressman calling out for that, btw, but Peolosi says no. And as I said, there is no precedent at this time on whether a sitting president can be impeached for crimes commited prior to getting into office, and this would allow Congress to set that precedent.

She says she kept the clothes from that incident. I don't know how much DNA degrades over time, but if she had not cleaned them, there might still be evidence?



That would be a bad precedent to set. Unless his jizz is on those clothes, there's likely no evidence, and Congress won't investigate because it's not their job to investigate stuff like this.
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Reply #164 posted 07/02/19 3:41pm

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poppys said:

No evidence, riiiight. You are ignoring at least 15 other accounts and well versed in all the talking points. Here's a nice little gif of Trump feeling up his own daughter at the RNC.








See the source image



Do you know something the rest of the world doesn't? hmmm
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