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Let’s talk democratic presidential contenders 2020 (continued)



The original thread timed out, so here is thread #2!

I will start with this statement: HOW CAN JOE BIDEN BE SUCH AN IDIOT?

Here is what he said last night - "“With Trump gone you’re going to begin to see things change. Because these folks know better. They know this isn’t what they’re supposed to be doing."

NO. YOU. WON'T. / NO. THEY. DON'T. / THEY. THINK. THIS. IS. WHAT. THEY. ARE. SUPPOSED. TO. DO.

Someone tell Joe Biden that for the last 25 years or so, the American political scene can be described thusly:

Democrats think Republicans are their political opponents. Republicans think Democrats are their enemy.

You work with opponents. You try to destroy enemies. If you don't realize the other side only wants to destroy you, then you will get destroyed.

Daily Kos's Markos Moulitsas said it best:


I had no idea it was Donald Trump that stopped Merrick Garland from serving on the Supreme Court.


I had no idea it was Trump that delivered no Republican votes for the Affordable Care Act, and spent years obstructing and undermining it, legislatively and judicially, before being selected president.


I had no idea that it was Trump who said, “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”


I had no idea it was Trump who also said, about the Obama agenda, “We're going to do everything—and I mean everything we can do—to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”


I had no idea that Trump was behind the Tea Party, the very entity that remade the Republican Party into the Trumpian dystopian shithole it is today.


I didn’t know any of those things! But Joe Biden was there the entire time, wasn’t he? If someone should know, it would be him, right?


There’s no way he could’ve gotten all that wrong, is there?

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If Biden is the nominee, we're getting 4 more years of Trump. He's a candidate no one cares about and doesn't have the mettle to beat Trump. The Dems are playing to lose.

He has about 25% of the primary vote, but his lead is shaky and nobody is excited about him. This is Hillary all over again, and the Dems are fixing to blow 2020 like they blew 2016.

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Biden has successfully shown he is stuck in the past and irrelevant to the Democratic party. I still want him around doing the rounds as he speaks to a voting block that needs to be addressed and he would also serve as a good sparring partner to Turd.

Eventually I hope he endorses a more suitable candidate as we get closer to the election.

So far Mayor Pete looks good to me, lets see how the vetting and the mud slinging effects him and if he implodes. We've seen that some people crack under pressure and Mayor Pete will certainly get a lot of mud slung at him because of his sexuality, so we’ll see.
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Buttgieg isn't ready for the prime time, he doesn't have enough experience. Maybe in a few years, perhaps after a stint as governor, but he's so painfully green, it seems like this run is just a publicity stunt even though he's got S tier political folks behind him.

Imo Tulsi Gabbard is the one I'd like to see, but it doesn't seem like she's even registering in the primaries yet. Anything could happen but I think she and Bernie are the only ones who could legit take on Trump, and neither of them are establishment candidates which is a plus.
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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Biden has successfully shown he is stuck in the past and irrelevant to the Democratic party. I still want him around doing the rounds as he speaks to a voting block that needs to be addressed and he would also serve as a good sparring partner to Turd. Eventually I hope he endorses a more suitable candidate as we get closer to the election. So far Mayor Pete looks good to me, lets see how the vetting and the mud slinging effects him and if he implodes. We've seen that some people crack under pressure and Mayor Pete will certainly get a lot of mud slung at him because of his sexuality, so we’ll see.



I like Mayor Pete as well. If he doesn't go the distance in 2020 he will have laid the groundwork for 2024 for sure.

Mayor of South Bend, Indiana since 2012. He is running for the Democratic Party nomination in the 2020 United States presidential election.

Buttigieg graduated from Harvard College and, on a Rhodes Scholarship, from Pembroke College, Oxford. From 2007 to 2010, he worked at McKinsey and Company, a consulting firm.[4] From 2009 to 2017 Buttigieg served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant and deploying to Afghanistan in 2014.[5][6]

Buttigieg was first elected mayor of South Bend in 2011 and was reelected in 2015.


Buttigieg taught himself to speak a measure of Norwegian and has some knowledge of Spanish, Italian, Maltese, Arabic, Dari, and French in addition to his native English,[81][82][83] though his level of fluency in those languages is unclear. His campaign has not quantified his language abilities, but he has been recorded speaking foreign languages on various occasions, including interviews on Univision on May 8, 2019 and Telemundo on May 20, 2019



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Reply #5 posted 06/12/19 6:48am

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I'd rather not have a retread of Biden, but if that's what it takes to beat Orangetrash, I'm all in. As Samuel Jackson said on Colbert the other night, I'm voting with the Resistance.

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Internal Trump campaign poll finds Biden ahead in key battleground states

Des Moines, Iowa — An internal poll conducted by President Trump's reelection campaign found Mr. Trump trailing former Vice President Joe Biden in some key battleground states in a hypothetical general election matchup, according to two sources with knowledge of the poll.

The campaign also found Biden doing well in states Mr. Trump won in 2016 and would need to win again to ensure reelection to a second term. The poll was conducted by campaign pollster Tony Fabrizio, and its findings were first reported by The New York Times.

The poll found Biden doing well across a broad swath of the country, including Rust Belt states like Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin, as well as Florida, North Carolina and Arizona. A number of public polls have shown Biden leading the president, including a Quinnipiac University national survey released Tuesday that found Biden ahead 53% to 40%...

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Biden has successfully shown he is stuck in the past and irrelevant to the Democratic party. I still want him around doing the rounds as he speaks to a voting block that needs to be addressed and he would also serve as a good sparring partner to Turd.

Eventually I hope he endorses a more suitable candidate as we get closer to the election.

So far Mayor Pete looks good to me, lets see how the vetting and the mud slinging effects him and if he implodes. We've seen that some people crack under pressure and Mayor Pete will certainly get a lot of mud slung at him because of his sexuality, so we’ll see.



Yes, good point. That's probably the best thing he could do for the party. I wonder how, though, the front-runner drops out of the race?

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Reply #7 posted 06/12/19 7:07am

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^^ Really, you guys don't want the front runner to run? Why? If he can get the votes in the Rust Belt, you still want someone else? This election is about getting Trump out, smdh.

[Edited 6/12/19 7:11am]

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RodeoSchro said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


Biden has successfully shown he is stuck in the past and irrelevant to the Democratic party. I still want him around doing the rounds as he speaks to a voting block that needs to be addressed and he would also serve as a good sparring partner to Turd.

Eventually I hope he endorses a more suitable candidate as we get closer to the election.

So far Mayor Pete looks good to me, lets see how the vetting and the mud slinging effects him and if he implodes. We've seen that some people crack under pressure and Mayor Pete will certainly get a lot of mud slung at him because of his sexuality, so we’ll see.



Yes, good point. That's probably the best thing he could do for the party. I wonder how, though, the front-runner drops out of the race?



We all know that front runner status does that mean anything this far out.
After a few debates and people have been put through the wringer we’ll get the real front runners.
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Reply #9 posted 06/12/19 7:17am

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^^ We all don't know shit. That's how we got Trump in the first place.

!7 month away is a long time, I'll agree with that.

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There is a need to support the candidate who has the best chance of beating Trump in 2020, period.

Despite early pollong we do not know who that is yet.


What Trumpers appear to respond to is a facade of strength which takes the form of name calling and the pontificating of accusations and bravado. Facts do not come into play, neither does truth. The question is, do the Democrats need to follow that same playbook to beat the Orange?


Seems to me what always hits home and moves people is the economy, stupid.









[Edited 6/12/19 7:32am]

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DiminutiveRocker said:

There is a need to support the candidate who has the best chance of beating Trump in 2020, period.

Despite early pollong we do not know who that is yet.


What Trumpers appear to respond to is a facade of strength which takes the form of name calling and the pontificating of accusations and bravado. Facts do not come into play, neither does truth. The question is, do the Democrats need to follow that same playbook to beat the Orange?


Seems to me what always hits home and moves people is the economy, stupid.


That is a good question. Trump is a one-off, His supporters and people who fear/admire him think he has more numbers behind him than he actually does, just like all cult leaders.

How far has he moved the needle? IDK. Dems need to be way more argumentative (to the opposition) and stubborn. I think that is what Rodeo is saying in the OP. Stuff like McConnell denying a Supreme Court nominee should have been a huge f**king Dem uprising. We didn't do enough.

The economy is very important. Trump is slinging manure all over our farmers with these tariffs, and pretending everything's fine - it isn't. Stuff like that needs to be harped on so the voters come out.

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poppys said:

^^ Really, you guys don't want the front runner to run? Why? If he can get the votes in the Rust Belt, you still want someone else? This election is about getting Trump out, smdh.

[Edited 6/12/19 7:11am]



Well, my problem with Biden is laid out in the OP. He doesn't realize that the GOP are his enemies, not his opponents. Had Barack Obama realized that, the USSC wouldn't be in the shape it's in today.

If I thought Biden was the only one who could beat unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, I might be less hard on him for not realizing who his true enemies are. But I think many of the Democratic candidates can and will beat unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump in 2020.

Finally, I think Biden is the front-runner today solely because of name recognition. As capaign platforms develop, I expect that to change.

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Reply #13 posted 06/12/19 8:17am

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We kind of just cross posted there. cool

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poppys said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

There is a need to support the candidate who has the best chance of beating Trump in 2020, period.

Despite early pollong we do not know who that is yet.


What Trumpers appear to respond to is a facade of strength which takes the form of name calling and the pontificating of accusations and bravado. Facts do not come into play, neither does truth. The question is, do the Democrats need to follow that same playbook to beat the Orange?


Seems to me what always hits home and moves people is the economy, stupid.


That is a good question. Trump is a one-off, His supporters and people who fear/admire him think he has more numbers behind him than he actually does, just like all cult leaders.

How far has he moved the needle? IDK. Dems need to be way more argumentative (to the opposition) and stubborn. I think that is what Rodeo is saying in the OP. Stuff like McConnell denying a Supreme Court nominee should have been a huge f**king Dem uprising. We didn't do enough.

The economy is very important. Trump is slinging manure all over our farmers with these tariffs, and pretending everything's fine - it isn't. Stuff like that needs to be harped on so the voters come out.



Yes, and I expect 2020 to play out like 1992 did.

George H. W. Bush began his re-election campaign as one of the most popular presidents in history, coming off the successful Gulf War. But just a few months of economic softness undid him.

This will happen to unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump. Our economy is heading for a recession. Coule that with the red ink he's generated and the debt he's created, and any talented campaigner could bury unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump on economic issues.


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We kind of just cross posted there. cool




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We've had a great run with the economy and nothing lasts forever. Now with the tariffs, softening of technology and automotive products and especially the deficits, I hate to even think what would happen. I just wish this doesn't turn into a ”the economy will have to falter so Turd loses” mantra because if that's the case, we all lose regardless who is President.
We have a lot of economic indicators that are concerning, I just hope and pray things don't go south. The millennials especially would get a double wammy.
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The economy is gonna do what it's gonna do. It has been kept artificially high for some time now.

I don't hear anyone saying we need to bust the economy to lose Trump. That sounds like the second, third and over guessing stuff people say on cable TV to fill up the news cycle.

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The economy is gonna do what it's gonna do. It has been kept artificially high for some time now.

I don't hear anyone saying we need to bust the economy to lose Trump. That sounds like the second, third and over guessing stuff people say on cable TV to fill up the news cycle.

I am not sure what you are saying... but I have seen people of note say they wanted the economy tank even if people were harmed in order to hurt trump.

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But I do understand that boom we have now...that stared the night trump was elected... has more to do with how people FEEL about trump than anything he actually has done.

what was funny is that obama tried to take credit!

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But I do understand that boom we have now...that stared the night trump was elected... has more to do with how people FEEL about trump than anything he actually has done.

what was funny is that obama tried to take credit!




You're coming into your own as a comedian! Look at YOuuuuu!


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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

We've had a great run with the economy and nothing lasts forever. Now with the tariffs, softening of technology and automotive products and especially the deficits, I hate to even think what would happen. I just wish this doesn't turn into a ”the economy will have to falter so Turd loses” mantra because if that's the case, we all lose regardless who is President. We have a lot of economic indicators that are concerning, I just hope and pray things don't go south. The millennials especially would get a double wammy. [Edited 6/12/19 8:44am]



The American consumer is loaded down with debt, as is our government.

Housing is in a bubble in many areas of the country.

The DJIA is artificially high, sent there by one-time-only corporate stock buy-backs.

These are facts, not wishes. Facts are inescapable and lead to certain outcomes. These facts as they exist now will, in my opinion and experience, lead to a recession.

It won't be as bad as the Great Recession, because our banks aren't loaded down with risky loans...for now. But with the deregulation of the banking industry - meaning a GIGANTIC loosening of regulation and oversight - a recession now would be the best thing we could have in order to prevent another mortgage meltdown.

History has shown us multiple times that when our banks are not overseen or regulated, our economy ultimately crashes. This is indisputable.

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

But I do understand that boom we have now...that stared the night trump was elected... has more to do with how people FEEL about trump than anything he actually has done.

what was funny is that obama tried to take credit!

You're coming into your own as a comedian! Look at YOuuuuuuu! lol

but it did... at frist there was a dio but within hours it was up and up and up...

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:


We've had a great run with the economy and nothing lasts forever. Now with the tariffs, softening of technology and automotive products and especially the deficits, I hate to even think what would happen. I just wish this doesn't turn into a ”the economy will have to falter so Turd loses” mantra because if that's the case, we all lose regardless who is President. We have a lot of economic indicators that are concerning, I just hope and pray things don't go south. The millennials especially would get a double wammy. [Edited 6/12/19 8:44am]



The American consumer is loaded down with debt, as is our government.

Housing is in a bubble in many areas of the country.

The DJIA is artificially high, sent there by one-time-only corporate stock buy-backs.

These are facts, not wishes. Facts are inescapable and lead to certain outcomes. These facts as they exist now will, in my opinion and experience, lead to a recession.

It won't be as bad as the Great Recession, because our banks aren't loaded down with risky loans...for now. But with the deregulation of the banking industry - meaning a GIGANTIC loosening of regulation and oversight - a recession now would be the best thing we could have in order to prevent another mortgage meltdown.

History has shown us multiple times that when our banks are not overseen or regulated, our economy ultimately crashes. This is indisputable.



... and there is no real tool to prop up the economy left. Interest rates, which have been the go-to tool to mitigate a downturn is at all time lows.

I don't want to be one of those gloom and doom types, but I would love to hear economic plans from these people spelling out what they will do once elected. Because I for one haven't got a clue.
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... and there is no real tool to prop up the economy left. Interest rates, which have been the go-to tool to mitigate a downturn is at all time lows. I don't want to be one of those gloom and doom types, but I would love to hear economic plans from these people spelling out what they will do once elected. Because I for one haven't got a clue. [Edited 6/12/19 9:33am]

the best pollicy seems to be to MOSTLY leave it alone! messing with it seems to do more to harm.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: You're coming into your own as a comedian! Look at YOuuuuuuu! lol

but it did... at frist there was a dio but within hours it was up and up and up...






The availability of jobs (along with a generally rising stock market) is lifting consumers’ spirits. The Bloomberg U.S. Weekly Consumer Comfort Index this year has been fluctuating around its highest level since 2000.

Yet even on unemployment, there’s less than meets the eye. People who’ve stopped looking for work or who are working part time even though they’d prefer full-time work aren’t counted in the government’s main measure of unemployment. Only 3.1% of men age 25-54 were officially unemployed in April, but an additional 10.8% were out of the labor force entirely, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. “The United States is still a long way from full employment,” says Dartmouth College economist David Blanchflower, author of Not Working: Where Have All the Good Jobs Gone?

The invisible reserve of labor keeps a lid on wages for those who are working. Summers argues that even with today’s low unemployment rate, some workers remain afraid they’ll lose their job if they ask for a raise. “The secular stagnation psychology has taken hold of the economy more than it’s taken hold of economists,” he says.




From an article dated May 13th:


On January 20, 2017, the day Trump took office, the Dow Jones industrial average was at 19,827. It’s had a good run during his first two plus years, and it closed Friday at 25,942. That’s an impressive gain of 30.8 percent, but let’s not be stingy. Let’s call it 31 percent.

During the same period of Barack Obama’s first term, from Inauguration Day 2009, until the close on May 12, 2011, the closest equivalent date during his presidency, the Dow rose from 8,280 to 12,696, a growth of 65 percent.

Given all that, let’s take a look at comparison unemployment data across the Obama and Trump years in this chart, which assigns an overall unemployment rate to each calendar year. Obama inherited a plummeting economy and the worst recession in decades from his predecessor, George W. Bush.

In 2009, the first year of Obama’s presidency, unemployment hit 9.9 percent, its highest level since the Great Depression. But starting in 2010, the unemployment rate fell for eight straight years, namely the eight years when the economy was essentially under Obama policy. By 2016, Obama’s last year in office, unemployment measured 4.7 percent (down from 9.9 percent.) In 2017, the first year of Trump’s term (but before many of his policies were implemented) it fell to 4.1 percent.

In 2018, with the Trump tax cuts and other magical elements of Trumpism on the books, it fell again to 3.9 percent. So, depending on how you count those swing years, unemployment fell by a 5.8 percentage points under Obama policy over eight years and 0.2 percentage points under Trump’s policies through the end of 2018.

Just a quick look at GDP growth, for which I’ll rely on this table from the U.S. ...c Analysis, and this graph from Statista. Between 2009 and 2017, the eight years during which Obama’s policies should be blamed or credited, GDP per capita went up every year, with a total gain of $5,903. I would call that decent, maybe not great. Solid, steady but not astonishing growth of a little above or a little below two percent year with a best year of 2.9 percent in 2015 and an average of about 2.5 percent a year. (It’s “real” GDP so inflation is taken out.)

For 2018, the first full year under Trump’s policies, Statista says GDP per capita grew 2.9 percent, equal to Obama’s best year, 2015. Although it’s a per capita number, it says nothing about the distribution of the gains, and one has one’s suspicions on that score. But, for today, we’ll leave it at this: The first year under Trump showed good overall growth. (If you look at the whole Statista table, you’ll see that the golden age of recent GDP growth was under Bill Clinton.)


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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:



... and there is no real tool to prop up the economy left. Interest rates, which have been the go-to tool to mitigate a downturn is at all time lows. I don't want to be one of those gloom and doom types, but I would love to hear economic plans from these people spelling out what they will do once elected. Because I for one haven't got a clue. [Edited 6/12/19 9:33am]



the best pollicy seems to be to MOSTLY leave it alone! messing with it seems to do more to harm.



Yeah, that’s why Turds 2 year goof has caused so much harm. The tax breaks ands tariffs. Now we’re starting to feels the consequences.
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The Democratic National Committee on Thursday officially announced 20 candidates that have qualified for the first debate in June.
They are in alphabetical order:

Sen. Michael Bennet (CO),
former Vice President Joe Biden,
Sen. Cory Booker (NJ),
South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg,
former HUD Sec. Julián Castro,
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio,
former Rep. John Delaney (MD),
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI),
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (NY),
Sen. Kamala Harris (CA),
former Gov. John Hickenlooper (CO),
Gov. Jay Inslee (WA),
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (MN),
former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (TX),
Rep. Tim Ryan (OH),
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT),
Rep. Eric Swalwell (CA),
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (MA),
author Marianne Williamson,
and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.


I actually like most of these people.
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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

The Democratic National Committee on Thursday officially announced 20 candidates that have qualified for the first debate in June. They are in alphabetical order: Sen. Michael Bennet (CO), former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Cory Booker (NJ), South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, former HUD Sec. Julián Castro, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, former Rep. John Delaney (MD), Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI), Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (NY), Sen. Kamala Harris (CA), former Gov. John Hickenlooper (CO), Gov. Jay Inslee (WA), Sen. Amy Klobuchar (MN), former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (TX), Rep. Tim Ryan (OH), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Rep. Eric Swalwell (CA), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (MA), author Marianne Williamson, and entrepreneur Andrew Yang. I actually like most of these people. [Edited 6/13/19 17:39pm]



I am VERY interested to hear what Andrew Yang has to say. He's very interesting.

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Yang is awful. He's a closet libertarian.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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