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Reply #90 posted 06/12/19 9:01am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:



in your opnion but I have been correct many times... give an example where I was wrong?



Oh stop it. Get over yourself.


you accused me of something and then tell me to get over myself? nice!



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Reply #91 posted 06/12/19 9:04am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you accused me of something and then tell me to get over myself? nice!

O M G Trust me, let's pretend that sig parody

it's not and nothing i have ever posted is contrary to it... I demand you stop trolling and attacking me and get back on topic and please try to not make topics about me... your thread jacking is not cool.

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Reply #92 posted 06/12/19 9:07am

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Here comes another Cease and Desist letter from the firm of Dewey, Screwem & Howe.

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Reply #93 posted 06/12/19 9:33am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

you accused me of something and then tell me to get over myself? nice!

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I DEMAND you stop! bawl bawl bawl falloff

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RodeoSchro said:

Here comes another Cease and Desist letter from the firm of Dewey, Screwem & Howe.

falloff



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Reply #95 posted 06/12/19 5:57pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



guitarslinger44 said:




DiminutiveRocker said:




These are your sources? lol 2 of the three quotes the same 65 year old guy who does not want to pay taxes and one is San Francisco centric.



I have lived in California all my life and likely know more about California than you do. As for taxes? All those highways and public utilities do not pay for themselves.




falloff Oh yeah - of the 40 million that live here some 137,000 moved to Nevada and Arizona? Retirees? It's tantamount to East Coast retireees moving to Florida.





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Apparently you don't know that much about what's going on with your home state if you don't know that people are leaving in droves because of how unaffordable it's become to live there due to touchy feely leftist policies. I provided you with three of many sources, two of which, you waved away, one of which you didn't even acknowledge. There are countless articles about how Californians leaving are starting to turn Arizon, Texas, etc into purple states.

What did you bring to the table?



Nothing except smugness and anecdotes. I know many people who still live there, and even more who have left the state because of the reasons those articles stated.

Get out of your bubble, or at least do a little research.





Droves... lol tell that to cross-town commuters on the city freeways spit



I strongly suggest that YOU get out of your uneducated and misinformed bubble before you even take a seat at the "table" - I brought facts, you brought misinformation.



The truth is that, again, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about.

Here's my research:


LA Times:



Who moves to California? The wealthier and better educated, mostly






By MARGOT ROOSEVELT



DEC 21, 2018 | 6:00 AM









High taxes. Stifling regulations. Exorbitant housing costs. Freeway gridlock. Fires and floods.






Hand-wringing over an exodus of disillusioned Californians may be a Golden State pastime, the subject of political punditry and strung-out social media threads.





But the latest data are far from dire. The U.S. Census Bureau, in its newly released surveys for 2017, shows that California’s net migration remained fairly stable. Since 2010, as the economic recovery took hold and housing prices skyrocketed, departures accelerated — but the number of newcomers rose steadily as well.


The state attracts a steady stream of college graduates, especially from the East Coast, even as many less-educated residents move to neighboring states — and to Texas — in search of a lower cost of living.




Consider that in 2017:








  • More people left California (661,026) than arrived (523,131) from other U.S. states. But for the nation’s most populous state, with 39 million residents, that amounted to a tiny fraction in net departures: just 0.35%.




  • Among the 25-years-and-older set, the state lost a net 86,890 residents without bachelor’s degrees, and just 4,443 with a four-year degree. It gained 11,653 people with graduate degrees.




  • No state boasts more loudly of its attractions than Texas. Indeed, 63,174 people relocated from California to the nation’s second-most populous state, more than to anywhere else in the U.S. But it’s also true that no state sent more people here than the Lone Star State — 40,999.








And thanks to your Republican congress in 2017...


“The tax bill made it worse,” Kotkin said, pointing out that the federal tax changes mean deductions for state, local and property taxes now get capped at $10,000. “State taxes have become a significant factor now. We’re getting into a situation where the middle class in California really can’t hack it.”


Overall, the Edelman survey involved a total of 1,900 California residents and was conducted Jan. 4 to Jan. 20. It said results were weighted to the Census to be representative of the state’s adult population.


A report from California’s Legislative Analyst’s Office last year indicated Texas, Arizona, Oregon and Nevada are popular destinations for relocating Californians. It also found families with kids and those Californians with only a high school education were most likely to flee to lower cost states than college-educated residents.







[Edited 6/12/19 7:03am]




Bruh...

Did you read that article before you posted it? lol
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Reply #96 posted 06/12/19 7:47pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Droves... lol tell that to cross-town commuters on the city freeways spit


I strongly suggest that YOU get out of your uneducated and misinformed bubble before you even take a seat at the "table" - I brought facts, you brought misinformation.


The truth is that, again, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about.

Here's my research:

LA Times:

Who moves to California? The wealthier and better educated, mostly

By MARGOT ROOSEVELT

DEC 21, 2018 | 6:00 AM



High taxes. Stifling regulations. Exorbitant housing costs. Freeway gridlock. Fires and floods.

Hand-wringing over an exodus of disillusioned Californians may be a Golden State pastime, the subject of political punditry and strung-out social media threads.


But the latest data are far from dire. The U.S. Census Bureau, in its newly released surveys for 2017, shows that California’s net migration remained fairly stable. Since 2010, as the economic recovery took hold and housing prices skyrocketed, departures accelerated — but the number of newcomers rose steadily as well.


The state attracts a steady stream of college graduates, especially from the East Coast, even as many less-educated residents move to neighboring states — and to Texas — in search of a lower cost of living.

Consider that in 2017:

  • More people left California (661,026) than arrived (523,131) from other U.S. states. But for the nation’s most populous state, with 39 million residents, that amounted to a tiny fraction in net departures: just 0.35%.

  • Among the 25-years-and-older set, the state lost a net 86,890 residents without bachelor’s degrees, and just 4,443 with a four-year degree. It gained 11,653 people with graduate degrees.

  • No state boasts more loudly of its attractions than Texas. Indeed, 63,174 people relocated from California to the nation’s second-most populous state, more than to anywhere else in the U.S. But it’s also true that no state sent more people here than the Lone Star State — 40,999.



And thanks to your Republican congress in 2017...

“The tax bill made it worse,” Kotkin said, pointing out that the federal tax changes mean deductions for state, local and property taxes now get capped at $10,000. “State taxes have become a significant factor now. We’re getting into a situation where the middle class in California really can’t hack it.”

Overall, the Edelman survey involved a total of 1,900 California residents and was conducted Jan. 4 to Jan. 20. It said results were weighted to the Census to be representative of the state’s adult population.

A report from California’s Legislative Analyst’s Office last year indicated Texas, Arizona, Oregon and Nevada are popular destinations for relocating Californians. It also found families with kids and those Californians with only a high school education were most likely to flee to lower cost states than college-educated residents.





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Bruh... Did you read that article before you posted it? lol

The .35 % departure rate. Period. End of story, Bruh.

[Edited 6/12/19 19:47pm]

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Reply #97 posted 06/13/19 5:36am

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guitarslinger44 said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Droves... lol tell that to cross-town commuters on the city freeways spit


I strongly suggest that YOU get out of your uneducated and misinformed bubble before you even take a seat at the "table" - I brought facts, you brought misinformation.


The truth is that, again, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about.

Here's my research:

LA Times:

Who moves to California? The wealthier and better educated, mostly

By MARGOT ROOSEVELT

DEC 21, 2018 | 6:00 AM



High taxes. Stifling regulations. Exorbitant housing costs. Freeway gridlock. Fires and floods.

Hand-wringing over an exodus of disillusioned Californians may be a Golden State pastime, the subject of political punditry and strung-out social media threads.


But the latest data are far from dire. The U.S. Census Bureau, in its newly released surveys for 2017, shows that California’s net migration remained fairly stable. Since 2010, as the economic recovery took hold and housing prices skyrocketed, departures accelerated — but the number of newcomers rose steadily as well.


The state attracts a steady stream of college graduates, especially from the East Coast, even as many less-educated residents move to neighboring states — and to Texas — in search of a lower cost of living.

Consider that in 2017:

  • More people left California (661,026) than arrived (523,131) from other U.S. states. But for the nation’s most populous state, with 39 million residents, that amounted to a tiny fraction in net departures: just 0.35%.

  • Among the 25-years-and-older set, the state lost a net 86,890 residents without bachelor’s degrees, and just 4,443 with a four-year degree. It gained 11,653 people with graduate degrees.

  • No state boasts more loudly of its attractions than Texas. Indeed, 63,174 people relocated from California to the nation’s second-most populous state, more than to anywhere else in the U.S. But it’s also true that no state sent more people here than the Lone Star State — 40,999.



And thanks to your Republican congress in 2017...

“The tax bill made it worse,” Kotkin said, pointing out that the federal tax changes mean deductions for state, local and property taxes now get capped at $10,000. “State taxes have become a significant factor now. We’re getting into a situation where the middle class in California really can’t hack it.”

Overall, the Edelman survey involved a total of 1,900 California residents and was conducted Jan. 4 to Jan. 20. It said results were weighted to the Census to be representative of the state’s adult population.

A report from California’s Legislative Analyst’s Office last year indicated Texas, Arizona, Oregon and Nevada are popular destinations for relocating Californians. It also found families with kids and those Californians with only a high school education were most likely to flee to lower cost states than college-educated residents.





[Edited 6/12/19 7:03am]

Bruh... Did you read that article before you posted it? lol


I read it... but did you understand it, sweetie? I know it doesn't have crayon illustrations. comfort

It was written 6 months ago so the data is current.



But the latest data are far from dire. The U.S. Census Bureau, in its newly released surveys for 2017, shows that California’s net migration remained fairly stable. Since 2010, as the economic recovery took hold and housing prices skyrocketed, departures accelerated — but the number of newcomers rose steadily as well.

or the part about the DROVES ?


More people left California (661,026) than arrived (523,131) from other U.S. states.But for the nation’s most populous state, with 39 million residents, that amounted to a tiny fraction in net departures: just 0.35%.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #98 posted 06/13/19 7:39am

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Why are you so triggered? Take a few deep breaths...

The fact is, you just latched on to a single word I said and missed the original point which was that leftist policies are causing a lot of people to leave California, a fact that every single article I posted and even the one you posted, have said. You're moving goalposts here, sure people are moving in, but it's less than the number that is leaving. FIVE PERCENT of the population left in a single year largely due to the state's policies! For all we know it may be even more now, but those numbers will come out soon.

For a state that claims to care about the less fortunate, they sure don't seem to mind turning the middle class into the less fortunate.

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Reply #99 posted 06/13/19 7:50am

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guitarslinger44 said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


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Why are you so triggered? Take a few deep breaths...

The fact is, you just latched on to a single word I said and missed the original point which was that leftist policies are causing a lot of people to leave California, a fact that every single article I posted and even the one you posted, have said. You're moving goalposts here, sure people are moving in, but it's less than the number that is leaving. FIVE PERCENT of the population left in a single year largely due to the state's policies! For all we know it may be even more now, but those numbers will come out soon.

For a state that claims to care about the less fortunate, they sure don't seem to mind turning the middle class into the less fortunate.

[Edited 6/13/19 7:40am]


No that’s not it. You’re not even from here and are searching the internet for confirmation bias. We that have lived here all our lives have reas these claims all of our lives.
I posted a list specifically for you pointing out which states more people leaving and heading to.
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Reply #100 posted 06/13/19 7:54am

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Can't quote directly underneath your post for some reason, but...


...You can't just focus on those who leave, and not consider those who come. The NET change in California's population was miniscule. So ask yourself:

If things in California are so bad, why did so many people move there from other states? If it was as bad as you say, you'd think no one was moving TO California.

The article states 40,999 people moved FROM Texas TO California and I'm going to add my daughter, who is a professional snowboarder now based out of Lake Tahoe, to make it an even 41,000 Texans now calling Cali home.


guitarslinger44 said:

Why are you so triggered? Take a few deep breaths... The fact is, you just latched on to a single word I said and missed the original point which was that leftist policies are causing a lot of people to leave California, a fact that every single article I posted and even the one you posted, have said. You're moving goalposts here, sure people are moving in, but it's less than the number that is leaving. FIVE PERCENT of the population left in a single year largely due to the state's policies! For all we know it may be even more now, but those numbers will come out soon. For a state that claims to care about the less fortunate, they sure don't seem to mind turning the middle class into the less fortunate. [Edited 6/13/19 7:40am]

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

guitarslinger44 said:



Why are you so triggered? Take a few deep breaths...

The fact is, you just latched on to a single word I said and missed the original point which was that leftist policies are causing a lot of people to leave California, a fact that every single article I posted and even the one you posted, have said. You're moving goalposts here, sure people are moving in, but it's less than the number that is leaving. FIVE PERCENT of the population left in a single year largely due to the state's policies! For all we know it may be even more now, but those numbers will come out soon.

For a state that claims to care about the less fortunate, they sure don't seem to mind turning the middle class into the less fortunate.

[Edited 6/13/19 7:40am]


No that’s not it. You’re not even from here and are searching the internet for confirmation bias. We that have lived here all our lives have reas these claims all of our lives.
I posted a list specifically for you pointing out which states more people leaving and heading to.


So CNBC is "confirmation bias?" If this wasn't happening, why would there be a bunch of news articles about it from all sorts of reputable sources, including the LA Times?

And that stuff you posted before is of no consequence, we're talking about California, not the country at large. Besides, because that article deals in percentages rather than actual population numbers, there could be bigger numbers of folks leaving Cali but that percentage is lower than some of the others. Can you post a link to that article though, I'd like to check it out.
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RodeoSchro said:


Can't quote directly underneath your post for some reason, but...


...You can't just focus on those who leave, and not consider those who come. The NET change in California's population was miniscule. So ask yourself:

If things in California are so bad, why did so many people move there from other states? If it was as bad as you say, you'd think no one was moving TO California.

The article states 40,999 people moved FROM Texas TO California and I'm going to add my daughter, who is a professional snowboarder now based out of Lake Tahoe, to make it an even 41,000 Texans now calling Cali home.




guitarslinger44 said:


Why are you so triggered? Take a few deep breaths... The fact is, you just latched on to a single word I said and missed the original point which was that leftist policies are causing a lot of people to leave California, a fact that every single article I posted and even the one you posted, have said. You're moving goalposts here, sure people are moving in, but it's less than the number that is leaving. FIVE PERCENT of the population left in a single year largely due to the state's policies! For all we know it may be even more now, but those numbers will come out soon. For a state that claims to care about the less fortunate, they sure don't seem to mind turning the middle class into the less fortunate. [Edited 6/13/19 7:40am]




The blockquoting has gotten so massive I had to cut it down a bit in my last post for it not to take up 1/4 a page. lol

There will always be people moving to California, it has a mystique about it, and I get it. People who really want to live in California will go there and like it no matter how screwed they end up being financially because of the decisions of the lawmakers there.

Congrats to your daughter btw, that's awesome she's able to make a living doing what she's doing!


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guitarslinger44 said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:



No that’s not it. You’re not even from here and are searching the internet for confirmation bias. We that have lived here all our lives have reas these claims all of our lives.
I posted a list specifically for you pointing out which states more people leaving and heading to.


So CNBC is "confirmation bias?" If this wasn't happening, why would there be a bunch of news articles about it from all sorts of reputable sources, including the LA Times?

And that stuff you posted before is of no consequence, we're talking about California, not the country at large. Besides, because that article deals in percentages rather than actual population numbers, there could be bigger numbers of folks leaving Cali but that percentage is lower than some of the others. Can you post a link to that article though, I'd like to check it out.


The 80’s The 90’s the 2000’s today, same story. Nothing new. Yes confirmation bias. You google searched for something to base your narrative after we all said we cared about people being treated correctly. You went into google search mode after that. I originally ignored it as you obviously do not know California. Are you even American? Doesn’t matter, but it shows ...you’re searching
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Reply #104 posted 06/13/19 8:28am

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guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:


Can't quote directly underneath your post for some reason, but...


...You can't just focus on those who leave, and not consider those who come. The NET change in California's population was miniscule. So ask yourself:

If things in California are so bad, why did so many people move there from other states? If it was as bad as you say, you'd think no one was moving TO California.

The article states 40,999 people moved FROM Texas TO California and I'm going to add my daughter, who is a professional snowboarder now based out of Lake Tahoe, to make it an even 41,000 Texans now calling Cali home.


The blockquoting has gotten so massive I had to cut it down a bit in my last post for it not to take up 1/4 a page. lol There will always be people moving to California, it has a mystique about it, and I get it. People who really want to live in California will go there and like it no matter how screwed they end up being financially because of the decisions of the lawmakers there. Congrats to your daughter btw, that's awesome she's able to make a living doing what she's doing! [Edited 6/13/19 8:09am]




LOL,thanks! I'm proud of her. She's down in Australia now, working there for the Australian winter.

I will say that while Lake Tahoe is certainly not low-rent, it was not as expensive to live there as I thought, based on all the "California is too expensive!" stuff I'd heard.

Back to California. Given that those who move to California are better-educated than the general population, I'd have to think they know what they're getting into. And yet, still they move to California.

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

guitarslinger44 said:
So CNBC is "confirmation bias?" If this wasn't happening, why would there be a bunch of news articles about it from all sorts of reputable sources, including the LA Times? And that stuff you posted before is of no consequence, we're talking about California, not the country at large. Besides, because that article deals in percentages rather than actual population numbers, there could be bigger numbers of folks leaving Cali but that percentage is lower than some of the others. Can you post a link to that article though, I'd like to check it out.
The 80’s The 90’s the 2000’s today, same story. Nothing new. Yes confirmation bias. You google searched for something to base your narrative after we all said we cared about people being treated correctly. You went into google search mode after that. I originally ignored it as you obviously do not know California. Are you even American? Doesn’t matter, but it shows ...you’re searching


I've said before in this very thread where I live. Seems like you're not here to actually discuss things, you just want to spout your opinion and peace out. You didn't even link that article you posted that I asked about so I could check it out.

I could say the same about you RE confirmation bias because you live there and aren't willing to listen to any evidence to the contrary of what you believe. I have anecdotal evidence of my position but brought actual news articles, but you're not trying to hear that. So I guess we should just agree to disagree.

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RodeoSchro said:

guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said: The blockquoting has gotten so massive I had to cut it down a bit in my last post for it not to take up 1/4 a page. lol There will always be people moving to California, it has a mystique about it, and I get it. People who really want to live in California will go there and like it no matter how screwed they end up being financially because of the decisions of the lawmakers there. Congrats to your daughter btw, that's awesome she's able to make a living doing what she's doing! [Edited 6/13/19 8:09am]




LOL,thanks! I'm proud of her. She's down in Australia now, working there for the Australian winter.

I will say that while Lake Tahoe is certainly not low-rent, it was not as expensive to live there as I thought, based on all the "California is too expensive!" stuff I'd heard.

Back to California. Given that those who move to California are better-educated than the general population, I'd have to think they know what they're getting into. And yet, still they move to California.


That's awesome she's getting to travel like that too! I have a friend who was just in Australia a couple months ago and she really loved it a lot.

I think people who get it in their heads that they want to live in California will move there and like it no matter what it costs, especially if they're more left leaning. People these days tend to flock to places that align with their thinking, but if we wanted to turn some red states blue, or at least purple, some of those left leaning folks ought to start moving to those places instead of California or NY and start setting up little insurgencies. lol

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guitarslinger44 said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


guitarslinger44 said:
So CNBC is "confirmation bias?" If this wasn't happening, why would there be a bunch of news articles about it from all sorts of reputable sources, including the LA Times? And that stuff you posted before is of no consequence, we're talking about California, not the country at large. Besides, because that article deals in percentages rather than actual population numbers, there could be bigger numbers of folks leaving Cali but that percentage is lower than some of the others. Can you post a link to that article though, I'd like to check it out.

The 80’s The 90’s the 2000’s today, same story. Nothing new. Yes confirmation bias. You google searched for something to base your narrative after we all said we cared about people being treated correctly. You went into google search mode after that. I originally ignored it as you obviously do not know California. Are you even American? Doesn’t matter, but it shows ...you’re searching


I've said before in this very thread where I live. Seems like you're not here to actually discuss things, you just want to spout your opinion and peace out. You didn't even link that article you posted that I asked about so I could check it out.

I could say the same about you RE confirmation bias because you live there and aren't willing to listen to any evidence to the contrary of what you believe. I have anecdotal evidence of my position but brought actual news articles, but you're not trying to hear that. So I guess we should just agree to disagree.

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Peace out. You avoid the obvious question and dig in. You furiously delved into google for confirmation bias once we said we were not biting on your bait about immigrants. You tried to shoehorn and your distaste of immigrants receiving medical care with people leaving California. None of what you posted is new or directly related to immigrants and as I’ve pointed out you could google 40 years back and get the same results.
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Reply #108 posted 06/13/19 12:04pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Here comes another Cease and Desist letter from the firm of Dewey, Screwem & Howe.

falloff

LMAO

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Reply #109 posted 06/13/19 12:23pm

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I wonder if or when trump will try to block Hope Hicks from testifying next Wednesday, citing executive privilege. This of course would apply only to her time in his Admin. Everything during the campaign and beyond is fair game.

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

guitarslinger44 said:


I've said before in this very thread where I live. Seems like you're not here to actually discuss things, you just want to spout your opinion and peace out. You didn't even link that article you posted that I asked about so I could check it out.

I could say the same about you RE confirmation bias because you live there and aren't willing to listen to any evidence to the contrary of what you believe. I have anecdotal evidence of my position but brought actual news articles, but you're not trying to hear that. So I guess we should just agree to disagree.

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Peace out. You avoid the obvious question and dig in. You furiously delved into google for confirmation bias once we said we were not biting on your bait about immigrants. You tried to shoehorn and your distaste of immigrants receiving medical care with people leaving California. None of what you posted is new or directly related to immigrants and as I’ve pointed out you could google 40 years back and get the same results. [Edited 6/13/19 11:14am]

Exactly.


He just makes blanket statements like "leftist policies" without citing anything specific - just two articles quoting the same 65 year old man who says he is moving to a more affordable state now that he is retired (and likely on a fixed income) And trhe CNBC article is much less informative than the LA Times article which provides facts on this topic saying it is not as dire as it is touted. There is no crisis of people fleeing Cali because of some mysterious leftist polices, the percentage of people leaving in "droves" is under 1% rolleyes

Trying to blame immigrants (who work for less than minimum wage in most instances) for that teensy migration is the most ignorant part of his posts because he provides no correlation.

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Reply #111 posted 06/13/19 12:30pm

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Musicslave said:

I wonder if or when trump will try to block Hope Hicks from testifying next Wednesday, citing executive privilege. This of course would apply only to her time in his Admin. Everything during the campaign and beyond is fair game.

Well at her previous testimony she flat out refused to answer when queried if she had ever been asked to lie by the president - her silence is the answer. IF he hadn't done that, then she would have answered No, riiiiight? lol

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Reply #112 posted 06/13/19 12:30pm

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Musicslave said:

I wonder if or when trump will try to block Hope Hicks from testifying next Wednesday, citing executive privilege. This of course would apply only to her time in his Admin. Everything during the campaign and beyond is fair game.



I doubt she would go with something shocking or actionable to divulge. I think Mueller laid out all the stuff of interest that we will see.
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Reply #113 posted 06/13/19 12:36pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


guitarslinger44 said:



I've said before in this very thread where I live. Seems like you're not here to actually discuss things, you just want to spout your opinion and peace out. You didn't even link that article you posted that I asked about so I could check it out.

I could say the same about you RE confirmation bias because you live there and aren't willing to listen to any evidence to the contrary of what you believe. I have anecdotal evidence of my position but brought actual news articles, but you're not trying to hear that. So I guess we should just agree to disagree.


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Peace out. You avoid the obvious question and dig in. You furiously delved into google for confirmation bias once we said we were not biting on your bait about immigrants. You tried to shoehorn and your distaste of immigrants receiving medical care with people leaving California. None of what you posted is new or directly related to immigrants and as I’ve pointed out you could google 40 years back and get the same results. [Edited 6/13/19 11:14am]



Exactly.


He just makes blanket statements like "leftist policies" without citing anything specific - just two articles quoting the same 65 year old man who says he is moving to a more affordable state now that he is retired (and likely on a fixed income) And trhe CNBC article is much less informative than the LA Times article which provides facts on this topic saying it is not as dire as it is touted. There is no crisis of people fleeing Cali because of some mysterious leftist polices, the percentage of people leaving in "droves" is under 1% rolleyes

Trying to blame immigrants (who work for less than minimum wage in most instances) for that teensy migration is the most ignorant part of his posts because he provides no correlation.



Yep. And retirees everywhere move to more affordable places. That’s not new or surprising. They even move to Mexico too for affordability. You’d be surprised how many retirees live on the coast of Baja or travel to Mexico for medicine or dental care.
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Reply #114 posted 06/13/19 12:54pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Musicslave said:

I wonder if or when trump will try to block Hope Hicks from testifying next Wednesday, citing executive privilege. This of course would apply only to her time in his Admin. Everything during the campaign and beyond is fair game.

I doubt she would go with something shocking or actionable to divulge. I think Mueller laid out all the stuff of interest that we will see.

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One would think. However, Mueller's scope was limited as far as his mandate was concerned. Conspiracy and Obstruction and all matters pertaining to conspiracy and obstruction. But there's plenty of other areas they could ask her about that's not as limited in nature. I do agree that we probably got what we're going to get from her as far as the Russia investigation is concerned.

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But don't get me wrong. I'm not holding my breath. I'll be pleasantly surprised if she gave up something significant.

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Reply #115 posted 06/13/19 1:22pm

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Sarah Sanders to leave White House by end of month. Bring back The Mooch.

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Reply #116 posted 06/13/19 1:24pm

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The Office of Special Counsel - which is not related in any way to Robert Mueller's office - recommended that Kellyanne Conway be removed from her job for repeated violations of the Hatch Act. This is the first time in history that the Office of Special Counsel has ever recommended a federal employee be fired for violating the Hatch Act.

The head of the Office of Special Counsel used to be a Republican Congressional investigator and was appointed OSC head by unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump.

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Reply #117 posted 06/13/19 1:55pm

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Wow - Saw the Kellyanne thing this morning. Wonder if it goes anywhere?

Sarah said she was stepping down this year, but Trump tweeted it out today. Did she finally balk at something, maybe the campaign opps info?

Will she spontaneously combust from all the burnng lies as she leaves the podium?

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Reply #118 posted 06/13/19 1:55pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Sarah Sanders to leave White House by end of month. Bring back The Mooch.

#MAGA

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Just read about that. He's hoping she runs for Governor in Arkansas too.

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Mooooch. Mooooch. I think he'll go with that girl from Fox News just so he can look at her on a daily basis. Heather Nauert (I think, is her name). If he was willing to hire her to lie for him in the State Dept surely he'll consider her for WH Press Secretary.

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Reply #119 posted 06/13/19 1:56pm

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MAGA Congressman, world-class grifter, vaping loser, war crimes committer, and felony-indicted Duncan Hunter found out today that his wife has pleaded guilty to the crimes she and Duncan committed. Of course, Duncan tried to throw her in the grease and blame all the wrong-doing on her when their crimes originally came out, so he should have seen this coming.

In her plea agreement, she said she would help the prosecution in their case against her husband and testify on their behalf. She also agreed to provide documents. Since a wife can't be made to testify against her husband, she is doing this voluntarily.

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