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Reply #180 posted 06/27/19 8:15am

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guitarslinger44 said:

poppys said:

This is the umpteenth post where you say the Dems will lose if.... (pick reason). You say it on every thread. Duly noted. Everyone does not think that no matter how many times you rinse and repeat.

Like you don't say the same stuff from thread to thread lol The last two Democrat presidents we have were Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, the only candidates that inspire that type of support right now are Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party) and Buttigieg (who has no experience and would be in way over his head if he won.) The Dems are allergic to playing to win and fighting back which is why they will lose unless they pick the right candidate. [Edited 6/26/19 14:05pm]

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And who might that be?

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Reply #181 posted 06/27/19 10:14am

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Musicslave said:

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nod I'm hoping those people who were indifferent or just plain lazy to vote last time, will show up in droves to get this guy out of office. I'm praying we learned our lesson by now or at least by Nov. 2020. I think he's going to be even more vile and vicious to get elected again.



I agree 100%.

That's why I think the Democrats need someone to get deeper in the gutter than that unrepentent serial adulterer Donald J. Trump could ever dream of being.

It won't be a candidate - though I wish it was, and Elizabeth Warren could do it. But there has to be a SuperPAC or something that continuously sends out messages like that one I posted a few replies.

But more explicit. Waaaaaaaay more explicit. The very fiber and moral character of any and every Trump supporter has to be brought into question. So does their faith and their patriotism.

Those are the EXACT shots unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump and his minions take at us every single day. They are bullies and the ONLY way to beat a bully is to punch him in the nose, as many times and as hard as it takes.

I will say this about Warren - her message of economic inequality has been consistent from the moment she came on the national political scene and at last night's debate she did not waiver. She speaks to the concerns of common American citizen.







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Reply #182 posted 07/02/19 4:51pm

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RodeoSchro said:



guitarslinger44 said:


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What if the Democrats follow your advice in 2020 but don't win?



The people they need to vote for them don't care to see Trump impeached, if they go for it, all he'll do is use it against them. They have candidates in the field that could beat trump but with the exception of possibly Warren, they're all people the DNC really isn't giving much airtime to. Biden is a loser out of the gate, just like he was the last two times he ran, if he gets the nod (and here's to hoping he keeps having gaffes like this last one or sees the light and drops out) were gonna get another 4 years of Trump.



Cool, but none of that answers my question.



Short answer? They try to increase their seats in Congress and start grooming candidates for 2024.
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Reply #183 posted 07/02/19 4:53pm

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guitarslinger44 said:


poppys said:

This is the umpteenth post where you say the Dems will lose if.... (pick reason). You say it on every thread. Duly noted. Everyone does not think that no matter how many times you rinse and repeat.




Like you don't say the same stuff from thread to thread lol The last two Democrat presidents we have were Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, the only candidates that inspire that type of support right now are Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party) and Buttigieg (who has no experience and would be in way over his head if he won.) The Dems are allergic to playing to win and fighting back which is why they will lose unless they pick the right candidate. [Edited 6/26/19 14:05pm]

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And who might that be?



Imo Gabbard is their best shot because she's progressive, but not in a virtue signaling kind of way. She's also a veteran and doesn't do a lot of the same slick talking some of the other candidates do, and those will play well to the working class folks the Dems need to attract.
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Reply #184 posted 07/06/19 12:19am

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guitarslinger44 said:

Musicslave said:

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And who might that be?

Imo Gabbard is their best shot because she's progressive, but not in a virtue signaling kind of way. She's also a veteran and doesn't do a lot of the same slick talking some of the other candidates do, and those will play well to the working class folks the Dems need to attract.


It really is just your opinion. She has little to no chance to be the Dem candidate in 2020, she is not even in the top 5. I am willing to bet the majority of the "working class" in this country has no idea who she is.

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Reply #185 posted 07/06/19 6:42am

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guitarslinger44 said:

Musicslave said: Imo Gabbard is their best shot because she's progressive, but not in a virtue signaling kind of way. She's also a veteran and doesn't do a lot of the same slick talking some of the other candidates do, and those will play well to the working class folks the Dems need to attract.


It really is just your opinion. She has little to no chance to be the Dem candidate in 2020, she is not even in the top 5. I am willing to bet the majority of the "working class" in this country has no idea who she is.


Guitar guy is full of advice for Dems. Gabbard is a known DINO. She changed her right leaning platform just to run as a Dem. The discourse in P&R is very low quality right now - even worse than usual. So many 'points' just too dumb to debate. It's like Charlie Sheen and his multiple personalities got locked inside the org.

[Edited 7/6/19 6:49am]

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Reply #186 posted 07/08/19 6:36am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



guitarslinger44 said:


Musicslave said:


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And who might that be?



Imo Gabbard is their best shot because she's progressive, but not in a virtue signaling kind of way. She's also a veteran and doesn't do a lot of the same slick talking some of the other candidates do, and those will play well to the working class folks the Dems need to attract.


It really is just your opinion. She has little to no chance to be the Dem candidate in 2020, she is not even in the top 5. I am willing to bet the majority of the "working class" in this country has no idea who she is.



um... Yeah. It's my opinion. I've never tried to paint it as anything but. And that's all pretty much anybody can do at this point on this topic.

No she probably won't make it this time, but she's viable in the future I think when the DNC gets serious about winning an election again.

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Reply #187 posted 07/08/19 6:45am

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DiminutiveRocker said:




guitarslinger44 said:


Musicslave said: Imo Gabbard is their best shot because she's progressive, but not in a virtue signaling kind of way. She's also a veteran and doesn't do a lot of the same slick talking some of the other candidates do, and those will play well to the working class folks the Dems need to attract.


It really is just your opinion. She has little to no chance to be the Dem candidate in 2020, she is not even in the top 5. I am willing to bet the majority of the "working class" in this country has no idea who she is.




Guitar guy is full of advice for Dems. Gabbard is a known DINO. She changed her right leaning platform just to run as a Dem. The discourse in P&R is very low quality right now - even worse than usual. So many 'points' just too dumb to debate. It's like Charlie Sheen and his multiple personalities got locked inside the org.


[Edited 7/6/19 6:49am]



What's a DINO? She's been a Democrat for ages, is pretty high up in the party and doesn't follow the goose-stepping leftism that's infected the DNC. The people the Dems need to vote for them to win would actually vote for her because she listens to and can talk to them unlike the coastal elite clowns the DNC always seems to want to run.

At least I make points, you can't even be bothered to do that. Like the old blues song goes, "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself..." lol
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Reply #188 posted 07/08/19 8:28am

poppys

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poppys said:


Guitar guy is full of advice for Dems. Gabbard is a known DINO. She changed her right leaning platform just to run as a Dem. The discourse in P&R is very low quality right now - even worse than usual. So many 'points' just too dumb to debate. It's like Charlie Sheen and his multiple personalities got locked inside the org.


What's a DINO? She's been a Democrat for ages, is pretty high up in the party and doesn't follow the goose-stepping leftism that's infected the DNC. The people the Dems need to vote for them to win would actually vote for her because she listens to and can talk to them unlike the coastal elite clowns the DNC always seems to want to run. At least I make points, you can't even be bothered to do that. Like the old blues song goes, "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself..." lol


Use the google. I posted my points, you just don't like them. I do read about her, and all of the candidates. Not surprised you like Gabbard - at all.

I'm bored with your mocking and laughing emoticon trolls. zzz Not enough here to keep me in a debate, if this is what you call debating.

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Reply #189 posted 07/08/19 10:06am

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poppys said:



guitarslinger44 said:


poppys said:



Guitar guy is full of advice for Dems. Gabbard is a known DINO. She changed her right leaning platform just to run as a Dem. The discourse in P&R is very low quality right now - even worse than usual. So many 'points' just too dumb to debate. It's like Charlie Sheen and his multiple personalities got locked inside the org.






What's a DINO? She's been a Democrat for ages, is pretty high up in the party and doesn't follow the goose-stepping leftism that's infected the DNC. The people the Dems need to vote for them to win would actually vote for her because she listens to and can talk to them unlike the coastal elite clowns the DNC always seems to want to run. At least I make points, you can't even be bothered to do that. Like the old blues song goes, "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself..." lol



Use the google. I posted my points, you just don't like them. I do read about her, and all of the candidates. Not surprised you like Gabbard - at all.

I'm bored with your mocking and laughing emoticon trolls. zzz Not enough here to keep me in a debate, if this is what you call debating.




So you complain about the level of discourse here but then when asked to explain something you posted, your answer is "Google it." Got it.
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Reply #190 posted 07/08/19 2:42pm

poppys

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poppys said:


Use the google. I posted my points, you just don't like them. I do read about her, and all of the candidates. Not surprised you like Gabbard - at all.

I'm bored with your mocking and laughing emoticon trolls. zzz Not enough here to keep me in a debate, if this is what you call debating.


So you complain about the level of discourse here but then when asked to explain something you posted, your answer is "Google it." Got it.


The definition for DINO is everywhere. Also the fact that Sanders is not a member of the Democratic party - something you just posted a few days ago.

[Edited 7/8/19 16:58pm]

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Reply #191 posted 07/08/19 4:47pm

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Agent Orange bashed Fox News and insinuate he was one of the reasons it came to be?

https://www.yahoo.com/huf..._test=2_05

he president tweeted:

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Reply #192 posted 07/08/19 7:04pm

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poppys said:



guitarslinger44 said:


poppys said:



Use the google. I posted my points, you just don't like them. I do read about her, and all of the candidates. Not surprised you like Gabbard - at all.

I'm bored with your mocking and laughing emoticon trolls. zzz Not enough here to keep me in a debate, if this is what you call debating.




So you complain about the level of discourse here but then when asked to explain something you posted, your answer is "Google it." Got it.



The definition for DINO is everywhere. Also the fact that Sanders is not a member of the Democratic party - something you just posted a few days ago.

[Edited 7/8/19 16:58pm]



How hard would it have been to actually answer my question? Sanders in an independent running as a Democrat, hence why he's involved with the Democratic debates. Jesus....
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Reply #193 posted 07/09/19 3:19am

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poppys said:


The definition for DINO is everywhere. Also the fact that Sanders is not a member of the Democratic party - something you just posted a few days ago.


How hard would it have been to actually answer my question? Sanders in an independent running as a Democrat, hence why he's involved with the Democratic debates. Jesus....


This is what you said -"Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party)". He's not running as a Democrat either.

[Edited 7/9/19 10:18am]

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Reply #194 posted 07/09/19 9:51am

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BREAKING NEWS

President Trump has been violating the Constitution by blocking Twitter users who criticize or mock him, a federal appeals court ruled.

Tuesday, July 9, 2019 11:59 AM EST

Because Mr. Trump uses Twitter to conduct government business, he cannot exclude some Americans from reading his posts — and engaging in conversations in the replies to them — because he does not like their views, a three-judge panel on the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled unanimously.

The ruling could have broader implications for how the First Amendment appli

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Reply #195 posted 07/09/19 10:12am

poppys

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BREAKING NEWS

President Trump has been violating the Constitution by blocking Twitter users who criticize or mock him, a federal appeals court ruled.

Tuesday, July 9, 2019 11:59 AM EST

Because Mr. Trump uses Twitter to conduct government business, he cannot exclude some Americans from reading his posts — and engaging in conversations in the replies to them — because he does not like their views, a three-judge panel on the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled unanimously.

The ruling could have broader implications for how the First Amendment appli


Interesting. Knife cuts both ways.

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Reply #196 posted 07/09/19 11:51am

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poppys said:



guitarslinger44 said:


poppys said:



The definition for DINO is everywhere. Also the fact that Sanders is not a member of the Democratic party - something you just posted a few days ago.





How hard would it have been to actually answer my question? Sanders in an independent running as a Democrat, hence why he's involved with the Democratic debates. Jesus....



This is what you said -"Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party)". He's not running as a Democrat either.

[Edited 7/9/19 10:18am]



Sanders said in 2016 that he was an independent but he was running as a Democrat so as not to split the vote and because the Dems had better infrastructure than he'd have access to as an independent. I can only assume that's his thought process this time too.
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Reply #197 posted 07/09/19 1:08pm

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poppys said:


This is what you said -"Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party)". He's not running as a Democrat either.



Sanders said in 2016 that he was an independent but he was running as a Democrat so as not to split the vote and because the Dems had better infrastructure than he'd have access to as an independent. I can only assume that's his thought process this time too.


Actual source please.

Saying he was marginalized by his own party is a Dem bashing tool used by many - including Tulsi Gabbard in a video that was posted on this forum.

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Reply #198 posted 07/09/19 1:22pm

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poppys said:


This is what you said -"Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party)". He's not running as a Democrat either.

[Edited 7/9/19 10:18am]

Sanders said in 2016 that he was an independent but he was running as a Democrat so as not to split the vote and because the Dems had better infrastructure than he'd have access to as an independent. I can only assume that's his thought process this time too.

Sanders is seeking the Democratic Party nomination - but he is an Independent. He could run for the Republican Nomination if he wanted to.

He is not running "as" anything.

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Can we get back to topic of Trump going to jail wink

His blocking people on Twitter is not constitutional - can he go to jail now please? lol

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Reply #200 posted 07/09/19 3:49pm

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poppys said:



guitarslinger44 said:


poppys said:



This is what you said -"Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party)". He's not running as a Democrat either.






Sanders said in 2016 that he was an independent but he was running as a Democrat so as not to split the vote and because the Dems had better infrastructure than he'd have access to as an independent. I can only assume that's his thought process this time too.



Actual source please.

Saying he was marginalized by his own party is a Dem bashing tool used by many - including Tulsi Gabbard in a video that was posted on this forum.



Google it.
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Reply #201 posted 07/09/19 3:52pm

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guitarslinger44 said:


poppys said:



This is what you said -"Sanders (who's being marginalized by his own party)". He's not running as a Democrat either.


[Edited 7/9/19 10:18am]



Sanders said in 2016 that he was an independent but he was running as a Democrat so as not to split the vote and because the Dems had better infrastructure than he'd have access to as an independent. I can only assume that's his thought process this time too.


Sanders is seeking the Democratic Party nomination - but he is an Independent. He could run for the Republican Nomination if he wanted to.

He is not running "as" anything.



Why would he, i don't know, SEEK THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION, if he had no intention of running as a Democrat? Yes, he's an Independent, but if he gets the nomination, he'll 9.5/10 be in the Democratic spot on the ballot.
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DiminutiveRocker said:

Sanders is seeking the Democratic Party nomination - but he is an Independent. He could run for the Republican Nomination if he wanted to.

He is not running "as" anything.

Why would he, i don't know, SEEK THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION, if he had no intention of running as a Democrat? Yes, he's an Independent, but if he gets the nomination, he'll 9.5/10 be in the Democratic spot on the ballot.

Does that make him a Democrat?

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poppys said:


Actual source please.

Saying he was marginalized by his own party is a Dem bashing tool used by many - including Tulsi Gabbard in a video that was posted on this forum.

Google it.

Mature.

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guitarslinger44 said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



Sanders is seeking the Democratic Party nomination - but he is an Independent. He could run for the Republican Nomination if he wanted to.

He is not running "as" anything.



Why would he, i don't know, SEEK THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION, if he had no intention of running as a Democrat? Yes, he's an Independent, but if he gets the nomination, he'll 9.5/10 be in the Democratic spot on the ballot.


Does that make him a Democrat?



If he runs on the Democratic ticket, caucuses with Democrats, and is given a blessing by the DNC, then yes. Maybe in name only, but yes.
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DiminutiveRocker said:

Does that make him a Democrat?

If he runs on the Democratic ticket, caucuses with Democrats, and is given a blessing by the DNC, then yes. Maybe in name only, but yes. [Edited 7/9/19 16:44pm]

WRONG. Independents caucus with whomever shares their closest political ideology, but they remain Independent.

Please, just stop.

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Reply #206 posted 07/09/19 6:37pm

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Can we get back to topic of Trump going to jail wink

His blocking people on Twitter is not constitutional - can he go to jail now please? lol


falloff YES!!

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Reply #207 posted 07/11/19 11:18am

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poppys said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Can we get back to topic of Trump going to jail wink

His blocking people on Twitter is not constitutional - can he go to jail now please? lol


falloff YES!!

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July 11, 2019

BREAKING NEWS
The House Judiciary Committee approved a dozen new subpoenas targeting high-profile Mueller witnesses, including Jared Kushner and David Pecker.

Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:42 PM EST

Despite rancorous Republican opposition, Democrats who control the committee were able to push the subpoena authorizations through along party lines — promising to jump-start two of their highest-priority oversight investigations of President Trump and his presidency.

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Reply #208 posted 07/12/19 7:54am

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Labor Secretary Alex Acosta resigns on account of going easy on a child molester because he was rich.

#MAGA

Second Funkiest White Man in America

P&R's Palladin
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Reply #209 posted 07/12/19 8:42am

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Labor Secretary Alex Acosta resigns on account of going easy on a child molester because he was rich.

#MAGA

The best people.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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