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Reply #90 posted 06/15/19 10:37am

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uPtoWnNY said:

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That is so true Uptown. People in general are so picky and judgmental. White people hate each other too, there is no real bonding. When there was so much opioid overdosing going on in the hick towns of Ohio near where I'm from, people were saying they didn't want to pay taxes for Narcan.



In 1982, I attended a lecture given by legendary broadcaster Pablo Guzman. He said something I've never forgotten....that black(and brown) people are quicker to fight and get bad with each other than with the folks who are making things hot for us. So true.


I remember him! He was the man on the street reporter in NYC when I lived there.

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Reply #91 posted 06/15/19 11:11am

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I hope every 11+ kid sees this for 2 big reasons!

1) to know your rights to know cops will lie and all that. Many people confess to stuff just because they want to go home.

2) kids need to try to walk the other way when they see trouble. You see a group of your peers going that way... go the other way. It looks like fun but the fact is one mistake, one bad apple, or one horrible coincidence.... is all it takes for lives to be ruined.

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Reply #92 posted 06/15/19 12:09pm

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As a friend of mine who used to be a Reagan loving conservative, but did a 180 degree turn and is now a liberal once said years ago (when he was still conservative) : " When the cops get you in that back room, by the time they finished working on you, they'll have you confessing to kidnapping the Limburgh baby! "
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Reply #93 posted 06/15/19 12:36pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I hope every 11+ kid sees this for 2 big reasons!

1) to know your rights to know cops will lie and all that. Many people confess to stuff just because they want to go home.

2) kids need to try to walk the other way when they see trouble. You see a group of your peers going that way... go the other way. It looks like fun but the fact is one mistake, one bad apple, or one horrible coincidence.... is all it takes for lives to be ruined.


Not only do cops lie, the supreme court has ruled it legal. Everybody, every race, every age, if you're being interrogated by the cops, stay silent. Say NOTHING!

Nothing you say will help you, everything you say will be used against you.

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #94 posted 06/15/19 1:20pm

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I know I will find others here with that same mentality, especially in South Carolina which tends to be a very strong red state. I wanted to step up and say something to my boss yesterday, but her eyes held such a hatred in them that it shocked me and I wasn't sure what I could say to her. If she believes that strongly, she won't listen to me. I have attempted to educate others that I've overheard saying such comment related to affirmative action, telling them how those in the higher positions within our agency are very hard workers, very knowledgeable, and how they are doing an excellent job in those positions and have earned those positions 10 times over. And I remind them that unfortunately, affirmative action is still needed today, because without it, black people would never advance in positions because people's racists views would stop them from advancing or hiring highly qualified individuals. Their response, "You know they put some people in those positions that are not qualified just because they are black and they have to. You see it happen all the time."

I have a couple of reasons for looking for a new job, but this is pushing me to look harder. My company doesn't offer insurance, and I have to use a tax subsidy to get insurance now. My deductible, even with that tax subsidy, is $7600. If Trump and the republicans are successful in ending the ACA, I will lose that tax subsidy and my insurance will cost me over $700 a month. I can't afford that. The other reason is I do a lot of driving and it is tearing my car apart. It needs some major repairs right now that I can't afford, but I'm going to have to rob Peter to pay Paul in order to get them done, because it's getting worse. The position that I'm trying for will allow me to work from home. I will have to do some traveling, but not as much as I do right now.

And 2elijah, it is still happening in this country. Central Park 5 were not the first and they were not the last either. sad And

Benni- What your witnessed in your office is something that most fairly successful Black people have experienced- namely that White people (and other non Black folks) question your abilities and accomplishments constantly. That you couldn't actually be the best or most accomplished or experienced- that SOMETHING else must be the reason that the Black person has more money or a better job or better education Trump's "birtherism" against Obama was just the most extreme manisfestation of this mindset, but sadly it's very common in my experience

The "Just A Ni***r" is alive and well. Mayor DeBlasio's biracial son experienced this ignorance from white and asian kids at his elite school. They don't feel black & latino kids are as smart as or don't work as hard as they do.

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Reply #95 posted 06/15/19 5:36pm

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As a friend of mine who used to be a Reagan loving conservative, but did a 180 degree turn and is now a liberal once said years ago (when he was still conservative) : " When the cops get you in that back room, by the time they finished working on you, they'll have you confessing to kidnapping the Limburgh baby! "

A lot of that type of police behavior comes from trying to move up in the department. I did hear that quite a few obtained promotions on that case. You definitely have to know your rights, but unfortunately there are some bad apples in some police depts that are skilled at forcing confessions by threats, especially with youths, even if many youth are aware of their rights. Not to mention the cops who are busted for planting evidence on some they arrest, just to meet their quota or get a promotion.
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Reply #96 posted 06/15/19 5:51pm

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2elijah said:


benni said:

Y'all are breaking my heart. Not a one of you ever deserved to be treated in any way other than with the utmost respect and love. Unfortunately, I see it a lot in the south. I realized today that I work with a lot of people that have some racial prejudice, except that they try to disguise it. I hear these comments from co-workers saying things like, "Well, you know why they aren't firing so and so, but if it was a white person...." (They are talking about affirmative action.) Today, I listened to my boss as she started going on about immigration and how they "don't deserve my tax money, if they want to come here, then they need to do it the right way, and stop taking my tax dollars". Then she started talking about these "people on our program, who has their kids getting paid to care for them, and they are wasting our tax dollars and need to get off their lazy butts and get a job," (she was directing that toward the minorities and their family members on our program). I was absolutely shocked, because I had never heard her speak that way before, and she has always been very sweet and kind to the minorities that work in the same program. (Now these are case managers and case manager supervisors that are working with elderly and disabled people that are saying things like this.) I'm trying to find another job because I don't want to support that kind of mentality. It was heartbreaking because these are people I had always respected, but I'm seeing these things in them and it was never evident before.


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Benni, even if you found another job, you will unfortunately still find people with that type of mentality. All you can do is either educate them about the misinformation they’ve been taught as truth, with the ‘actual truth.’ It’s sad that many that have said those things to you, but seems to have amnesia or ignorant that they and their ancestors were/are immigrants. Had their ancestors not arrive here from their birth country, they may not have been here as well. Had this country not been built on a system of racism and slavery, then America today, would not have race issues and ignorant, racist ideology still being embraced in present day. That proof is in the pudding with racial profiling and selective treatment based on race, still being an issue in this country. Unfortunately, the Central Park Five were not the first or only ones, this happened to. There were so many cases before them, where many Blacks were charged for crimes they were falsely accused of like the case of the Scottsboro boys. [Edited 6/14/19 5:25am]


I know I will find others here with that same mentality, especially in South Carolina which tends to be a very strong red state. I wanted to step up and say something to my boss yesterday, but her eyes held such a hatred in them that it shocked me and I wasn't sure what I could say to her. If she believes that strongly, she won't listen to me. I have attempted to educate others that I've overheard saying such comment related to affirmative action, telling them how those in the higher positions within our agency are very hard workers, very knowledgeable, and how they are doing an excellent job in those positions and have earned those positions 10 times over. And I remind them that unfortunately, affirmative action is still needed today, because without it, black people would never advance in positions because people's racists views would stop them from advancing or hiring highly qualified individuals. Their response, "You know they put some people in those positions that are not qualified just because they are black and they have to. You see it happen all the time."

I have a couple of reasons for looking for a new job, but this is pushing me to look harder. My company doesn't offer insurance, and I have to use a tax subsidy to get insurance now. My deductible, even with that tax subsidy, is $7600. If Trump and the republicans are successful in ending the ACA, I will lose that tax subsidy and my insurance will cost me over $700 a month. I can't afford that. The other reason is I do a lot of driving and it is tearing my car apart. It needs some major repairs right now that I can't afford, but I'm going to have to rob Peter to pay Paul in order to get them done, because it's getting worse. The position that I'm trying for will allow me to work from home. I will have to do some traveling, but not as much as I do right now.

And 2elijah, it is still happening in this country. Central Park 5 were not the first and they were not the last either. sad And



Yes, I mentioned that Central Park Five were not the first, and they’re definitely not the last. Honestly, I fear any of my male relatives’ interactions with cops, because you just never know if they will run into a decent cop or a rogue one.

Yet my oldest brother is a retired cop, but he was a good police officer. His last years he worked with youth in the PAL organization. The kids loved him, and saw him as a father figure. I still have relatives in the police dept, and a nephew-in-law who is a cop. My own retired, police officer brother and his retired friends, were stopped on a highway in Florida (coming home from a fishing trip) and my brother said they were stopped for no reason other than because they were 4 Black men, riding in his mercedes. My brother said the cop didn't have any valid reason for stopping them, because they didn’t commit any driving/traffic incident. When he told the officer he, and 2 out of his 3 friends were retired officers, except one who was still an officer, the officer’s attitude towards them changed and he let them go.

You just have to treat each incident on an individual basis, but many Black Americans are uncomfortable around police officers, because of this country’s history of mistreatment towards many within the Black community. The ‘talk’ is very common snd much needed, among our community to our kids as a means of surviving interactions with police.
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Reply #97 posted 06/15/19 6:10pm

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There's just as much racial hatred/segregation in northeast cities like NY & Boston as there is in the deepest south. It's more covert up here, which to me, is more ominous.


Absolutely! nod
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Reply #98 posted 06/17/19 7:15am

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2elijah said:

uPtoWnNY said:

There's just as much racial hatred/segregation in northeast cities like NY & Boston as there is in the deepest south. It's more covert up here, which to me, is more ominous.


Absolutely! nod


Did you see tha recentt incident in Arizona? The footage is unreal. Cop screaming I'm gonna put a cap in your motherfuckin head. Unarmed pregnant woman carrying a child, holding another one by the hand. Another cop handcuffed the father, then kicked him, then said he would shoot him. Brutal

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Reply #99 posted 06/17/19 7:45am

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2elijah said:


uPtoWnNY said:

There's just as much racial hatred/segregation in northeast cities like NY & Boston as there is in the deepest south. It's more covert up here, which to me, is more ominous.




Absolutely! nod


Did you see tha recentt incident in Arizona? The footage is unreal. Cop screaming I'm gonna put a cap in your motherfuckin head. Unarmed pregnant woman carrying a child, holding another one by the hand. Another cop handcuffed the father, then kicked him, then said he would shoot him. Brutal





The cops are getting the shit sued out of them. They went way too far.


https://www.google.com/am...-theft.amp
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Reply #100 posted 06/17/19 7:48am

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Sue them not colleges.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #101 posted 06/17/19 8:52am

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2elijah said:

poppys said:


Did you see tha recent incident in Arizona? The footage is unreal. Cop screaming I'm gonna put a cap in your motherfuckin head. Unarmed pregnant woman carrying a child, holding another one by the hand. Another cop handcuffed the father, then kicked him, then said he would shoot him. Brutal


The cops are getting the shit sued out of them. They went way too far.

https://www.google.com/am...-theft.amp


nod I hope they get every penny.

Since 9/11, when they gave all that money to police depts and they used it to militarize, things have really gone bonkers. The cops in that video both come off as seriously deranged. Threatening to kill an entire family over possible shoplifting? That's crazy. Just like the traffic stops for a taillight, etc. I got sick watching that footage. Jesus, you would think they were arresting a gang of serial killers.

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Reply #102 posted 06/17/19 9:46am

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poppys said:

2elijah said:

poppys said:
The cops are getting the shit sued out of them. They went way too far.

https://www.google.com/am...-theft.amp


nod I hope they get every penny.

Since 9/11, when they gave all that money to police depts and they used it to militarize, things have really gone bonkers. The cops in that video both come off as seriously deranged. Threatening to kill an entire family over possible shoplifting? That's crazy. Just like the traffic stops for a taillight, etc. I got sick watching that footage. Jesus, you would think they were arresting a gang of serial killers.



I saw that! And it was because their child left the store with a barbie doll and they didn't realize she had it. Sheesh! My oldest son once walked out of a store with a small balloon (one of those silvery things on a stick), and I didn't realize he had it until I was putting him in his car seat. Of course, I took him right back in and made him apologize and paid for the balloon, but it happens! Those poor babies (and their parents) will never trust the police again. And you know, in school they teach you to find a police officer if you are ever in danger, etc., but to tell black kids this, not realizing that it could put those kids in more danger depending upon the officer and what he thinks is happening? Things have to change, somehow.

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Reply #103 posted 06/17/19 10:28am

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poppys said:




2elijah said:


poppys said:
The cops are getting the shit sued out of them. They went way too far.

https://www.google.com/am...-theft.amp



nod I hope they get every penny.

Since 9/11, when they gave all that money to police depts and they used it to militarize, things have really gone bonkers. The cops in that video both come off as seriously deranged. Threatening to kill an entire family over possible shoplifting? That's crazy. Just like the traffic stops for a taillight, etc. I got sick watching that footage. Jesus, you would think they were arresting a gang of serial killers.





I saw that! And it was because their child left the store with a barbie doll and they didn't realize she had it. Sheesh! My oldest son once walked out of a store with a small balloon (one of those silvery things on a stick), and I didn't realize he had it until I was putting him in his car seat. Of course, I took him right back in and made him apologize and paid for the balloon, but it happens! Those poor babies (and their parents) will never trust the police again. And you know, in school they teach you to find a police officer if you are ever in danger, etc., but to tell black kids this, not realizing that it could put those kids in more danger depending upon the officer and what he thinks is happening? Things have to change, somehow.


I’m seriously so tired of it all. Unfortunately this won’t be the last type of incident like this. Over a toddler allegedly taking a toy from a Dollar Store. So that kind of excessive force was necessary? Really? Smh.
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Reply #104 posted 06/17/19 10:51am

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I saw that! And it was because their child left the store with a barbie doll and they didn't realize she had it. Sheesh! My oldest son once walked out of a store with a small balloon (one of those silvery things on a stick), and I didn't realize he had it until I was putting him in his car seat. Of course, I took him right back in and made him apologize and paid for the balloon, but it happens! Those poor babies (and their parents) will never trust the police again. And you know, in school they teach you to find a police officer if you are ever in danger, etc., but to tell black kids this, not realizing that it could put those kids in more danger depending upon the officer and what he thinks is happening? Things have to change, somehow.


I’m seriously so tired of it all. Unfortunately this won’t be the last type of incident like this. Over a toddler allegedly taking a toy from a Dollar Store. So that kind of excessive force was next? Really? Smh.

hug grouphug

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Reply #105 posted 06/17/19 11:04am

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I saw that! And it was because their child left the store with a barbie doll and they didn't realize she had it. Sheesh! My oldest son once walked out of a store with a small balloon (one of those silvery things on a stick), and I didn't realize he had it until I was putting him in his car seat. Of course, I took him right back in and made him apologize and paid for the balloon, but it happens! Those poor babies (and their parents) will never trust the police again. And you know, in school they teach you to find a police officer if you are ever in danger, etc., but to tell black kids this, not realizing that it could put those kids in more danger depending upon the officer and what he thinks is happening? Things have to change, somehow.

I’m seriously so tired of it all. Unfortunately this won’t be the last type of incident like this. Over a toddler allegedly taking a toy from a Dollar Store. So that kind of excessive force was next? Really? Smh.


I don't get it either 2elijah. As a white person, that would never happen to me in that situation and I know it. And it shouldn't happen in that kind of situation. But it happens all too frequently for black people and in situations that don't warrant that kind of response, and I just ... I'm sorry. I'm just sorry that anyone has to go through that. It's not right.

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2elijah said:


benni said:




I saw that! And it was because their child left the store with a barbie doll and they didn't realize she had it. Sheesh! My oldest son once walked out of a store with a small balloon (one of those silvery things on a stick), and I didn't realize he had it until I was putting him in his car seat. Of course, I took him right back in and made him apologize and paid for the balloon, but it happens! Those poor babies (and their parents) will never trust the police again. And you know, in school they teach you to find a police officer if you are ever in danger, etc., but to tell black kids this, not realizing that it could put those kids in more danger depending upon the officer and what he thinks is happening? Things have to change, somehow.



I’m seriously so tired of it all. Unfortunately this won’t be the last type of incident like this. Over a toddler allegedly taking a toy from a Dollar Store. So that kind of excessive force was next? Really? Smh.


I don't get it either 2elijah. As a white person, that would never happen to me in that situation and I know it. And it shouldn't happen in that kind of situation. But it happens all too frequently for black people and in situations that don't warrant that kind of response, and I just ... I'm sorry. I'm just sorry that anyone has to go through that. It's not right.

hug


Thanks Benni snd Poppy. I appreciate you both. It’s certainly not your fault these situations happen. I blame the individual(s) who act on their ignorance. They’re the ones that should know right from wrong. It’s their responsibility to recognize how they treat others, when encountering those they see different from them. It’s their karma they will have to face down the road.

Unfortunately, I don’t believe racial ignorance or disrespect will ever stop existing. All one can do is handle each encounter on an individual basis, by the individual(s) displaying their prejudice towards them.

As far as the movie, so far it’s one of the most watched shows on Netflix, on a daily basis, since its release. It’s good that this movie gives an inside view of cases like this.
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Reply #107 posted 06/17/19 2:48pm

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I don't get it either 2elijah. As a white person, that would never happen to me in that situation and I know it. And it shouldn't happen in that kind of situation. But it happens all too frequently for black people and in situations that don't warrant that kind of response, and I just ... I'm sorry. I'm just sorry that anyone has to go through that. It's not right.

hug

Thanks Benni snd Poppy. I appreciate you both. It’s certainly not your fault these situations happen. I blame the individual(s) who act on their ignorance. They’re the ones that should know right from wrong. It’s their responsibility to recognize how they treat others, when encountering those they see different from them. It’s their karma they will have to face down the road. Unfortunately, I don’t believe racial ignorance or disrespect will ever stop existing. All one can do is handle each encounter on an individual basis, by the individual(s) displaying their prejudice towards them. As far as the movie, so far it’s one of the most watched shows on Netflix, on a daily basis, since its release. It’s good that this movie gives an inside view of cases like this. [Edited 6/17/19 14:30pm]

One can only hope, 2E pray

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2elijah said:


benni said:



I don't get it either 2elijah. As a white person, that would never happen to me in that situation and I know it. And it shouldn't happen in that kind of situation. But it happens all too frequently for black people and in situations that don't warrant that kind of response, and I just ... I'm sorry. I'm just sorry that anyone has to go through that. It's not right.

hug



Thanks Benni snd Poppy. I appreciate you both. It’s certainly not your fault these situations happen. I blame the individual(s) who act on their ignorance. They’re the ones that should know right from wrong. It’s their responsibility to recognize how they treat others, when encountering those they see different from them. It’s their karma they will have to face down the road. Unfortunately, I don’t believe racial ignorance or disrespect will ever stop existing. All one can do is handle each encounter on an individual basis, by the individual(s) displaying their prejudice towards them. As far as the movie, so far it’s one of the most watched shows on Netflix, on a daily basis, since its release. It’s good that this movie gives an inside view of cases like this. [Edited 6/17/19 14:30pm]


One can only hope, 2E pray


I don’t know Dimi, especially what’s going on today with this current administration.

I just got the courage to watch the movie, but it’s already uncomfortable in the first episode, knowing this tragedy really happened to those young men, and makes me question how many others did this/or does this (still) happen to?
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Here’s the lying pig that lied about them. Karma never forgets and she’s getting some of her karma now. They need to investigate other cases she handled. How many more did she force into a false confession? Not to mention the police and detectives who abused those young men, and forced them to lie, during the questioning and investigation. Damn shame what happened.

https://www.google.com/ur...6824088855
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I finally finished watching it... amazingly powerful stuff
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Here’s the lying pig that lied about them. Karma never forgets and she’s getting some of her karma now. They need to investigate other cases she handled. How many more did she force into a false confession? Not to mention the police and detectives who abused those young men, and forced them to lie, during the questioning and investigation. Damn shame what happened. https://www.google.com/ur...6824088855 [Edited 6/17/19 15:41pm]


Karma is a bitch nod

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I finally finished watching it... amazingly powerful stuff


It's heart wrenching, but too important not to watch. neutral

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I finally finished watching it... amazingly powerful stuff


Yes, it is. And heartbreakingly sad and infuriating. It brings up so many emotions, but hopefully it is causing people to truly look at how they interact with people, how they treat others that are "different", and what black men, women, and children go through in this country. Slavery may have ended but the attitudes and mindsets of the people have not, not nearly enough. And it's got to stop.

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2elijah said:

Here’s the lying pig that lied about them. Karma never forgets and she’s getting some of her karma now. They need to investigate other cases she handled. How many more did she force into a false confession? Not to mention the police and detectives who abused those young men, and forced them to lie, during the questioning and investigation. Damn shame what happened. https://www.google.com/ur...6824088855


Linda Fairstein didn't even say she would do ONE THING differently if she had the chance. That's what a true liar does. disbelief

“Ms. DuVernay’s film attempts to portray me as an overzealous prosecutor and a bigot, the police as incompetent or worse, and the five suspects as innocent of all charges against them. None of this is true,” she wrote, adding that while she agrees that rape convictions against the five should have been vacated after the real rapist confessed, she believes that the other charges against them shouldn’t have been vacated, stating, “there was certainly more than enough evidence to support those convictions of first-degree assault, robbery, riot and other charges.”

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Reply #115 posted 06/18/19 11:07am

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poppys said:

2elijah said:

Here’s the lying pig that lied about them. Karma never forgets and she’s getting some of her karma now. They need to investigate other cases she handled. How many more did she force into a false confession? Not to mention the police and detectives who abused those young men, and forced them to lie, during the questioning and investigation. Damn shame what happened. https://www.google.com/ur...6824088855


Linda Fairstein didn't even say she would do ONE THING differently if she had the chance. That's what a true liar does. disbelief

“Ms. DuVernay’s film attempts to portray me as an overzealous prosecutor and a bigot, the police as incompetent or worse, and the five suspects as innocent of all charges against them. None of this is true,” she wrote, adding that while she agrees that rape convictions against the five should have been vacated after the real rapist confessed, she believes that the other charges against them shouldn’t have been vacated, stating, “there was certainly more than enough evidence to support those convictions of first-degree assault, robbery, riot and other charges.”

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I wouldn't doubt it if trump or someone from his camp told her that she had his support and not to backdown. He pays more attention to pop culture than matters that most other presidents would focus on.

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Reply #116 posted 06/18/19 12:00pm

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2elijah said:


Here’s the lying pig that lied about them. Karma never forgets and she’s getting some of her karma now. They need to investigate other cases she handled. How many more did she force into a false confession? Not to mention the police and detectives who abused those young men, and forced them to lie, during the questioning and investigation. Damn shame what happened. https://www.google.com/ur...6824088855



Linda Fairstein didn't even say she would do ONE THING differently if she had the chance. That's what a true liar does. disbelief


“Ms. DuVernay’s film attempts to portray me as an overzealous prosecutor and a bigot, the police as incompetent or worse, and the five suspects as innocent of all charges against them. None of this is true,” she wrote, adding that while she agrees that rape convictions against the five should have been vacated after the real rapist confessed, she believes that the other charges against them shouldn’t have been vacated, stating, “there was certainly more than enough evidence to support those convictions of first-degree assault, robbery, riot and other charges.”



She’s a lying piece of shit. Why would anyone believe her now with the dirty tactics and lies she pulled, when she was on that case? She and the detectives on that case lied and forced those kids into a false confession. They didn’t give a damn about them. I’m glad some of the charities she was associated with, pretty much forced her racist ass out.
As an American you have a right to question/call your country out on its wrongs/injustices. That doesn’t make you un-American nor does anyone have a right to tell you to leave, because you have the courage to stand up against any injustice in this count
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Reply #117 posted 06/18/19 12:01pm

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poppys said:




2elijah said:


Here’s the lying pig that lied about them. Karma never forgets and she’s getting some of her karma now. They need to investigate other cases she handled. How many more did she force into a false confession? Not to mention the police and detectives who abused those young men, and forced them to lie, during the questioning and investigation. Damn shame what happened. https://www.google.com/ur...6824088855



Linda Fairstein didn't even say she would do ONE THING differently if she had the chance. That's what a true liar does. disbelief


“Ms. DuVernay’s film attempts to portray me as an overzealous prosecutor and a bigot, the police as incompetent or worse, and the five suspects as innocent of all charges against them. None of this is true,” she wrote, adding that while she agrees that rape convictions against the five should have been vacated after the real rapist confessed, she believes that the other charges against them shouldn’t have been vacated, stating, “there was certainly more than enough evidence to support those convictions of first-degree assault, robbery, riot and other charges.”



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I wouldn't doubt it if trump or someone from his camp told her that she had his support and not to backdown. He pays more attention to pop culture than matters that most other presidents would focus on.


I wouldn’t be surprised either.

He actually said again that they’re guilty, and the city shouldn’t have settled with them. He really wanted those 5 innocent guys executed for a crime they never committed. He’s horrible.
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Reply #118 posted 06/19/19 5:36am

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-18/trump-refuses-apology-for-central-park-five-death-penalty-ad

Trump Refuses to Apologize for Central Park Five Death Penalty Ad

June‎ ‎18‎, ‎2019‎ ‎2‎:‎28‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT

Trump has long been attached to the case of the “Central Park Five” because he ran a full-page ad in the New York Times less than a month after the attack calling for New York to “bring back the death penalty” for violent criminals. He has never apologized for the ad.

“You have people on both sides of that,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Tuesday after he was asked about the case. “They admitted their guilt.”

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Reply #119 posted 06/19/19 5:58am

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-18/trump-refuses-apology-for-central-park-five-death-penalty-ad

Trump Refuses to Apologize for Central Park Five Death Penalty Ad

June‎ ‎18‎, ‎2019‎ ‎2‎:‎28‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT

Trump has long been attached to the case of the “Central Park Five” because he ran a full-page ad in the New York Times less than a month after the attack calling for New York to “bring back the death penalty” for violent criminals. He has never apologized for the ad.

“You have people on both sides of that,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Tuesday after he was asked about the case. “They admitted their guilt.”

He really is unbelievable.

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