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Reply #60 posted 06/03/19 7:17am

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I had some delicious pizza last night. All toppings cost the same until you ordered three toppings. Then toppings after that were half price.

Commies.

By the way, Pizza Hut roofs were the same color as adopted by the GOP. Therefore, if red means Pizza Hut are commies, then we have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that:

Red = Commies = Pizza Hut = Red = GOP = Commies

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Reply #61 posted 06/03/19 7:33am

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^^ so basically I paid for your toppings! FUCK!!

how does it feel spending other peoples money?

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Reply #62 posted 06/03/19 7:38am

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You ate fucking Pizza Slut? ick

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Reply #63 posted 06/03/19 7:39am

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RodeoSchro said:

I had some delicious pizza last night. All toppings cost the same until you ordered three toppings. Then toppings after that were half price.

Commies.

By the way, Pizza Hut roofs were the same color as adopted by the GOP. Therefore, if red means Pizza Hut are commies, then we have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that:

Red = Commies = Pizza Hut = Red = GOP = Commies

Remember when Obama met the two racists for beer (something that make them lose all inhibitions) to help race relations? Maybe the White House needs to invite some people over and have a communist pizza party to help world relations?

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Reply #64 posted 06/03/19 7:50am

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Two racists? wtf

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Reply #65 posted 06/03/19 7:50am

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2freaky4church1 said:

You ate fucking Pizza Slut? ick

Bernie Sanders offered pizza free for everyone. Socialism works until it fails and it eventually fails.

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Reply #66 posted 06/03/19 7:53am

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Socialism works until it fails and it eventually fails.

not in Europe though LOL

but propganda dumbfuckery since childhood makes you think otherwise HAHAHA

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Reply #67 posted 06/03/19 7:59am

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Better never see you in a park of library.

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Reply #68 posted 06/03/19 8:28am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Better never see you in a park of library.

Park of library?

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Reply #69 posted 06/03/19 8:29am

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BombSquad said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Socialism works until it fails and it eventually fails.

not in Europe though LOL

but propganda dumbfuckery since childhood makes you think otherwise HAHAHA

It will fail.

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Reply #70 posted 06/03/19 8:44am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

BombSquad said:

not in Europe though LOL

but propganda dumbfuckery since childhood makes you think otherwise HAHAHA

It will fail.

but only if incompetent fucks in dumbed down shithole nations do it.

you know like universal health care LOL

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Reply #71 posted 06/03/19 9:22am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Better never see you in a park of library.



He's probably too paranoid to even leave his house!
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Reply #72 posted 06/03/19 9:25am

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How did Adam Smith - Mr. Invisible Hand of Capitalism - feel about progressive tax rates?

http://adamsmithslostlega...ssive.html


“The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.”

If you want to see something really funny, travel to the site below, read some ridiculous "conservative's" explanation that in fact, Adam Smith did not favor a progressive tax system, and then read the replies to his blog.

https://www.adamsmith.org...e-taxation

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Reply #73 posted 06/03/19 9:27am

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I think I'm going to have some hydraulic despotic fish for lunch. Shrimp, probably.

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Reply #74 posted 06/03/19 2:47pm

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All i know is i have zero interest in jumping from one system of government to another hoping it works better. They all are flawed. This one is fine when its allowed to learn and grow. When it becomes static, which it seems to be right now, stuck in some idealistic post ww2 era or something, instead dealing with what's going on in this era.
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Reply #75 posted 06/03/19 4:09pm

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You mean his tent.

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Reply #76 posted 06/04/19 9:18am

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Another striking chart showing wealth distribution. The poorest 50% of American households now share only 1.3% of the nation's wealth between them. The richest 10%, on the other hand, control around 70% of the wealth.


"Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin
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Reply #77 posted 06/04/19 9:21am

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deebee said:

Another striking chart showing wealth distribution. The poorest 50% of American households now share only 1.3% of the nation's wealth between them. The richest 10%, on the other hand, control around 70% of the wealth.




This is why Adam Smith advocated for a progressive tax system. It also reminds us that America was at its best fiscal health when our top tax rates were higher than they are today.

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Reply #78 posted 06/04/19 9:26am

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Another thing about Smith was he advocated equality of outcome as well. Take that Jordan Peterson.

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Reply #79 posted 06/04/19 12:11pm

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I had my hydraulic despotic fish for lunch today, instead of yesterday. And I had Lobster Quesedillas, not shrimp. From a food truck, no less. Well, actually the lobster was from Maine. The quesedillas were really, really good!

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Reply #80 posted 06/04/19 12:20pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I had my hydraulic despotic fish for lunch today, instead of yesterday. And I had Lobster Quesedillas, not shrimp. From a food truck, no less. Well, actually the lobster was from Maine. The quesedillas were really, really good!

from Main? why on earth for? there are tons of them in the gulf...

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Reply #81 posted 06/06/19 9:26am

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RodeoSchro said:



deebee said:


Another striking chart showing wealth distribution. The poorest 50% of American households now share only 1.3% of the nation's wealth between them. The richest 10%, on the other hand, control around 70% of the wealth.






This is why Adam Smith advocated for a progressive tax system. It also reminds us that America was at its best fiscal health when our top tax rates were higher than they are today.



Until the government starts tackling capital gains taxes, and cracking down on offshoring, things won't change on the tax front. Income tax basically only gets the people who actually earn their money from working.
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Reply #82 posted 06/06/19 9:31am

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guitarslinger44 said:

RodeoSchro said:



This is why Adam Smith advocated for a progressive tax system. It also reminds us that America was at its best fiscal health when our top tax rates were higher than they are today.

Until the government starts tackling capital gains taxes, and cracking down on offshoring, things won't change on the tax front. Income tax basically only gets the people who actually earn their money from working.



I'm back-and-forth on the issue of capital gains.

One the one hand, income is income, right? Whether it's from a paycheck or a dividend, a case could be made that it should all be taxed the same.

On the other hand, I do understand and support the concept of telling people that if they will invest their money and start a business that generates jobs and taxable revenue, they'll be taxed less when they sell their business interest. That's a great motivation to invest in something productive.

I probably need to do a lot of research and thinking on this. Good point, guitarman!

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Reply #83 posted 06/06/19 9:52am

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RodeoSchro said:



guitarslinger44 said:


RodeoSchro said:




This is why Adam Smith advocated for a progressive tax system. It also reminds us that America was at its best fiscal health when our top tax rates were higher than they are today.



Until the government starts tackling capital gains taxes, and cracking down on offshoring, things won't change on the tax front. Income tax basically only gets the people who actually earn their money from working.



I'm back-and-forth on the issue of capital gains.

One the one hand, income is income, right? Whether it's from a paycheck or a dividend, a case could be made that it should all be taxed the same.

On the other hand, I do understand and support the concept of telling people that if they will invest their money and start a business that generates jobs and taxable revenue, they'll be taxed less when they sell their business interest. That's a great motivation to invest in something productive.

I probably need to do a lot of research and thinking on this. Good point, guitarman!




My issue with capital gains is that it's generally passive income. You don't have to work 40 hours to get it and because it's cost prohibitive to be able to get in the first place, it shouldn't be taxed the same as normal income that you have to trade your time to get. I only say this because there are a lot of top of the food chain folks that earn most of their pay in capital gains. That's why someone like Steve Jobs famously saying he'd work for $1 is bullshit, because he owned tons of stock which paid out a lot more than income would have. It sounds all touchy feely and nice but it really just throws people off the scent.

Most people can invest now but there's still a strata of society that doesn't make enough to be able to do so and because working is a necessity for most people, which is why I think there should be a difference in how income vs capital gains is taxed.

All I know is, the tax code in this country is intentionally vague and there are many companies who lobby to keep it that way because it gives them a reason to exist. But that vagueness favors people with more "complicated financial situations."

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Reply #84 posted 06/07/19 7:32am

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Right wingers, is running your own life evil?

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