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Thread started 05/27/19 12:59pm

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Thoughts on Wars



I do not believe that the majority of wars were/are necessary. The last US war I can even consider as just was WWII. Even then I think dropping 2 nuclear bombs on Japan was wrong. That includes all the ones we no longer call wars for political reasons, and a way to get around rules.

For clarity, having an army, and ambitiously waging wars are two separate things to me. A millitary on hand in case of an attack, or internal strife is not the same as actively having military bases all over the world and building up an arsenal of weapons we could annhiliate the entire planet with many times over.

The glorification of war is obscene, and a self-fulfulling process of continuing the madness. The cliche of supporting the troops while we give them no services after they have served is unconscionable. We exploit our youngest members of society and maim them.

Veteran suicides are at epidemic proportions in this country. After reading what some of the living and their families go thru, they may be the lucky ones.

Gut wrenching replies to a US Army tweet portray the gravity of veteran suicide rates

https://www.businessinsider.com/replies-us-army-tweet-captures-the-issue-veteran-suicide-rates-2019-5


[Edited 5/28/19 7:08am]

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Reply #1 posted 05/28/19 12:29pm

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Many wars are oft regarded as unnecessary political mistakes in hindsight. For example Vietnam, which was a total fiasco and did next to nothing to stop communism, or the Iraq war that created ISIS and lead to much more terrorism worldwide instead of curbing it, or the ousting of Libya´s Ghaddaffi. I hated that guy and Saddam but most of their predictions came true (for example that there´d be a rise in global terrorism, waves of migrants from the Middle East and Africa etc. ). In the long run, it is often other countries such as Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey , Germany, Italy and France and the Netherlands that have to pay the price for the chaos that wasn´t created by them .

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I agree with you that WWII was probably the last "necessary" or justified war. Maybe I´d add NATO´s involvement in Yugoslavia, too, although personally I would have preferred a more peaceful solution. Serbia´s atrocities had to be stopped but I think there could have been better ways than killing Serbian civilians and aiding militias in Kosovo. I had more sympathies for the Bosnians and Kosovarians but I could also understand part of Serbia´s arguments since I followed that war closely and had and still have friends from all parties involved in that war.

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What I don´t understand is this.....even pacifists and people with an anti-war stance in the US often say "Thank you for your service" and "Thanks for keeping us free" , and I would like to know how one can criticize the military and thank them at the same time, and.....what exactly do they protect you from? Because I never saw countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria or Venezuela as a threat to American freedom.

A threat to their financial and geostrategic interests, sure, a threat for Israel, probably, but other than that I don´t really understand this freedom thing. America is so far away from those places and has the biggest and most powerful military in the world, so those phrases never made much sense to me.

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A conservative friend of mine (and Trump supporter) who happens to be a veteran posted a Ronald Reagan video to commemorate Memorial Day and called Reagan the greatest president ever and at the end of the video you see Fidel Castro, AOC, some antifa members in the streets and anti-Trump protestors and he called all those people the enemies of freedom.

But seriously, how is AOC a threat to America´s freedom? Or Castro, who is dead? Or antifa ?

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Reply #2 posted 05/28/19 12:59pm

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'War on Thoughts'

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Since nobody here gave a damn about Memorial Day and the many veterans who died protecting this great country, I will say my "thoughts on wars" is thank God we have brave men and women who voluntarily got off their ass and actually did something for this great country, rather than sit on their ass all day without contributing anything of value.

The first group I want to honor for their service is the Tuskegee Airmen, military pilots who fought for the United States of America in WWII.

God Bless these fine men:

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Reply #4 posted 05/28/19 3:57pm

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poppys said:

In a nutshell, more liberal disrespect for the troops and military.

God Bless the Troops and US of A.

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Reply #5 posted 05/28/19 3:59pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

poppys said:

I do not believe that the majority of wars were/are necessary. The last US war I can even consider as just was WWII. Even then I think dropping 2 nuclear bombs on Japan was wrong. That includes all the ones we no longer call wars for political reasons, and a way to get around rules.

For clarity, having an army, and ambitiously waging wars are two separate things to me. A millitary on hand in case of an attack, or internal strife is not the same as actively having military bases all over the world and building up an arsenal of weapons we could annhiliate the entire planet with many times over.

The glorification of war is obscene, and a self-fulfulling process of continuing the madness. The cliche of supporting the troops while we give them no services after they have served is unconscionable. We exploit our youngest members of society and maim them.

Veteran suicides are at epidemic proportions in this country. After reading what some of the living and their families go thru, they may be the lucky ones.

Gut wrenching replies to a US Army tweet portray the gravity of veteran suicide rates

https://www.businessinsider.com/replies-us-army-tweet-captures-the-issue-veteran-suicide-rates-2019-5


[Edited 5/28/19 7:08am]

In a nutshell, more liberal disrespect for the troops and military.

God Bless the Troops and US of A.



Well if that makes you mad, I can only hope that thinking about a coward who used made-up bone spurs in order to get out of defending his country doesn't completely make your mind explode with rage at said coward.

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Reply #6 posted 05/28/19 4:00pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

Since nobody here gave a damn about Memorial Day and the many veterans who died protecting this great country, I will say my "thoughts on wars" is thank God we have brave men and women who voluntarily got off their ass and actually did something for this great country, rather than sit on their ass all day without contributing anything of value.

The first group I want to honor for their service is the Tuskegee Airmen, military pilots who fought for the United States of America in WWII.

God Bless these fine men:

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Well, Poppys cared enough about Memorial Day to create this thread, and if I´m not mistaken this thread was probably inspired by Memorial Day.

I cared enough to respond and contribute my thoughts, and I congratulated some of my American friends. On top of that , Poppys rightfully mentioned the lack of respect for veterans and the horrible treatment many of them get, whether it´s from the VA or elsewhere. Post-deployment care , especially when people suffer from post traumatic stress or have lost limbs is often really poor.

I agree with Poppys as far as WWII is concerned.

What other wars , post WWII, do you think were justified?

How did those people who "got off their asses and did something" protect your country other than during WWII ?

I´m not trying to be political here, just trying to understand.

I´ve asked some of these questions and the questions in my above post before but have never received a satisfying answer, but I´m genuinely curious and interested.

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Reply #7 posted 05/28/19 4:01pm

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poppys said:

I said no such thng. Can you read?

In a nutshell, more liberal disrespect for the troops and military.

God Bless the Troops and US of A.


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RodeoSchro said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

In a nutshell, more liberal disrespect for the troops and military.

God Bless the Troops and US of A.



Well if that makes you mad, I can only hope that thinking about a coward who used made-up bone spurs in order to get out of defending his country doesn't completely make your mind explode with rage at said coward.


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Reply #9 posted 05/28/19 4:03pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

poppys said:

In a nutshell, more liberal disrespect for the troops and military.

God Bless the Troops and US of A.

What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.

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Reply #10 posted 05/28/19 4:14pm

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KoolEaze said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

In a nutshell, more liberal disrespect for the troops and military.

God Bless the Troops and US of A.


What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.


Thank you Kool. And thanks for your post. I titled the thread Memorial Day Thoughts yesterday, but changed it today to maybe keep it going. There is more of substance I'd like to add when I get some time, but we see how this is going.

The army has gotten more that 11,000 tweets back from service members, vets and their families. They are overwhelmed with the response.

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poppys said:

KoolEaze said:


What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.


Thank you Kool. And thanks for your post. I titled the thread Memorial Day Thoughts yesterday, but changed it today to maybe keep it going. There is more of substance I'd like to add when I get some time, but we see how this is going.

The army has gotten more that 11,000 tweets back from service members, vets and their families. They are overwhelmed with the response.

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KoolEaze said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

In a nutshell, more liberal disrespect for the troops and military.

God Bless the Troops and US of A.

What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.

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Pokeno4Money said:

Since nobody here gave a damn about Memorial Day and the many veterans who died protecting this great country, I will say my "thoughts on wars" is thank God we have brave men and women who voluntarily got off their ass and actually did something for this great country, rather than sit on their ass all day without contributing anything of value.

The first group I want to honor for their service is the Tuskegee Airmen, military pilots who fought for the United States of America in WWII.

God Bless these fine men:

635752553412274189-saldc5-5ajfshx035tnfofim19-original.jpg




[Edited 5/28/19 15:48pm]

AMEN

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Reply #14 posted 05/28/19 4:33pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

KoolEaze said:

What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.

OK.

Fair enough.

I took it as a moment of reflection on a day that commemorates people who died in wars, and the subsequent and logical reflection on why we do have wars at all.

What better day to reflect on war in general than on Memorial Day?

Perfect date, as far as I can say, and not wining at all.

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

KoolEaze said:

What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.



Actually, Memorial Day is to honor those that have died. You don't EVER tell a serving service member, or former service member, "Happy Memorial Day! This is for you!!11!1!1!!" unless you want an M-16 shoved up your butt.

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RodeoSchro said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.



Actually, Memorial Day is to honor those that have died. You don't EVER tell a serving service member, or former service member, "Happy Memorial Day! This is for you!!11!1!1!!" unless you want an M-16 shoved up your butt.

Really? Is that so?

I´m pretty sure I´ve seen some FB posts where people wished former troops Happy Memorial Day on that day. Is that just ignorance or a gaffe ? I did the same, not knowing that one shouldn´t do that. I guess I´ll have to apologize to my friend quickly.

He took it very positively though. Probably because he guessed that I simply don´t know better.

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

KoolEaze said:

What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.


No, on Memorial Day you honor those who died in military service to this country and those vets who served, lived and died later. It's to memorialize those who fought in service and died, either in service or afterwards as civilians.

My father and three uncles all served and lived through WWII without injury. My family honors them on veteran's Day and on Memorial Day for their service.


My dad was a Bronze Medal recipient and after having lived through WWII he was bascially a pacifist. He once said no one should have to experience war - it affects you for life. He even had nightmares until his death in 2010. But keeping in line with the OP's original comments... Wars, even "just" wars like WWII Europe are horrible. And the suicide rate for vets of recent tours is alarming. They serve and then are forgotten in the wake of their anguishes, physical or mental.

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Reply #18 posted 05/28/19 4:47pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

KoolEaze said:

What a weird post from you.

Where did Poppys show disrespect to the troops and the military in her thread?

On the contrary, Poppys complained about the bad treatment of vets and how young people are sent off to wars and end up being suicidal, or lose their limbs and whatnot.

I can´t see anything wrong or disrespectful in Poppy´s post.

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.


It was not. Neither you or Pokey actually read the OP. No one responded at all yesterday. KoolEase was the first one. Did you even read what over 11,000 service members and veterans wrote when the US Army tweeted this question???

'How Has Serving Impacted You?'

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/27/727254720/a-u-s-army-tweet-asking-how-has-serving-impacted-you-got-an-agonizing-response


THAT is what you should be paying attention to, not me. Obviously you do not care what the TROOPS think. If you don't want to post like an adult, stay off the thread.


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KoolEaze said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.

OK.

Fair enough.

I took it as a moment of reflection on a day that commemorates people who died in wars, and the subsequent and logical reflection on why we do have wars at all.

What better day to reflect on war in general than on Memorial Day?

Perfect date, as far as I can say, and not wining at all.

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We should mostly care about the civilians, since they do not sign up. At least soldiers get duped into signing on the bloody dotted line. They sign away their blood oath to societal rot.

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KoolEaze said:

RodeoSchro said:



Actually, Memorial Day is to honor those that have died. You don't EVER tell a serving service member, or former service member, "Happy Memorial Day! This is for you!!11!1!1!!" unless you want an M-16 shoved up your butt.

Really? Is that so?

I´m pretty sure I´ve seen some FB posts where people wished former troops Happy Memorial Day on that day. Is that just ignorance or a gaffe ? I did the same, not knowing that one shouldn´t do that. I guess I´ll have to apologize to my friend quickly.

He took it very positively though. Probably because he guessed that I simply don´t know better.



It is so, and it's ignorance. Don't worry about it, though. Honest mistake.

Memorial Day in the U.S. is to honor those who gave their lives in service to our country.

Veterans Day in the U.S. is to honor those among us who are serving, or have served.

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poppys said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.


It was not. Neither you or Pokey actually read the OP. No one responded at all yesterday. KoolEase was the first one. Did you even read what over 11.000 service members and veterans wrote when the US Army tweeted this question???

'How Has Serving Impacted You?'

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/27/727254720/a-u-s-army-tweet-asking-how-has-serving-impacted-you-got-an-agonizing-response


THAT is what you shoulld be paying attention to, not me. Obviously you do not care what the TROOPS think. If you don't want to post like an adult, stay off the thread.


Or better yet, go post on a thread topic that is really important like Jussie Smollet.

This is a thoughtful thread, poppys. I had this very conversation with my WWII vet father many times.


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We should mostly care about the civilians, since they do not sign up. At least soldiers get duped into signing on the bloody dotted line. They sign away their blood oath to societal rot.

Are you referring to the countries they are sent off to or the country they are from ?

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What other wars , post WWII, do you think were justified?

How did those people who "got off their asses and did something" protect your country other than during WWII ?

I´m not trying to be political here, just trying to understand.

I´ve asked some of these questions and the questions in my above post before but have never received a satisfying answer, but I´m genuinely curious and interested.


Sorry I didn't see your earlier questions, they are good questions and I'll try to answer them best I can briefly at first, and with more detail later on if you'd like further discussion.

The Gulf War was justified. In 1990 the Iraq army invaded and annexed Kuwait, an ally of ours. There was international condemnation of Iraq for the invasion, and the US joined the largest military alliance since WWII.

A common mistake anti-war people make is that they believe combat is not necessary until the enemy attempts to invade or attack on American soil.

I have two thoughts on that subject:

1) As the only authentic world superpower, we have a moral obligation to help our allies when they are in dire need. Turning our back on Kuwait and other allies would be a horrible message to send and would seriously harm our relationships with other countries.

2) Waiting for bombs to fall first on major US cities, or waiting for enemy military to first approach our borders, would be a massive and costly mistake. It's always more difficult and dangerous to wait until the enemy is knocking on your door before you attempt to defend yourself and your property. Would you really want to wait for Iraq or North Korea to build and launch nuclear weapons at the US before starting our defense? Of course not. The time to address serious threats to the US is BEFORE they develope weapons of mass destruction, not after.

If there's any particular wars you'd like to discuss, feel free to name them. I'll tell you right now, the Korean and Viet Nam wars were not justified in my opinion.

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RodeoSchro said:

KoolEaze said:

Really? Is that so?

I´m pretty sure I´ve seen some FB posts where people wished former troops Happy Memorial Day on that day. Is that just ignorance or a gaffe ? I did the same, not knowing that one shouldn´t do that. I guess I´ll have to apologize to my friend quickly.

He took it very positively though. Probably because he guessed that I simply don´t know better.



It is so, and it's ignorance. Don't worry about it, though. Honest mistake.

Memorial Day in the U.S. is to honor those who gave their lives in service to our country.

Veterans Day in the U.S. is to honor those among us who are serving, or have served.


Well said Rodeo!

It always amazes me when people say "Happy Memorial Day", talk about clueless. They have no concept of what a "memorial" is.

Do these same people say "Happy 9/11 Anniversary"??

Or "Happy Pearl Harbor Day"??

Sadly, Memorial Day is considered a "happy" day by some because to them it means a paid holiday and a chance to head to the beach, have a cookout, or sleep all day. That's all they really care about. confused


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I'm referring to the fact that it is illegal and immoral.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #27 posted 05/28/19 5:28pm

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Freakin' snowflakes

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #28 posted 05/28/19 5:34pm

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KoolEaze said:

RodeoSchro said:



Actually, Memorial Day is to honor those that have died. You don't EVER tell a serving service member, or former service member, "Happy Memorial Day! This is for you!!11!1!1!!" unless you want an M-16 shoved up your butt.

Really? Is that so?

I´m pretty sure I´ve seen some FB posts where people wished former troops Happy Memorial Day on that day. Is that just ignorance or a gaffe ? I did the same, not knowing that one shouldn´t do that. I guess I´ll have to apologize to my friend quickly.

He took it very positively though. Probably because he guessed that I simply don´t know better.

Fell for the trap.

see post #1.

Take the being disrespectful on Memorial Day nonsense up with poppy.

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Reply #29 posted 05/28/19 5:43pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Holiday for us to give praise to the Troops. All you need to do on Memorial Day is give Thanks to the Troops. Instead to flat out complain like a winer about War iteself. Do that the following day or any other day but not on a day to give thanks to the Troops. She was looking for trouble. The post was a flame bate.


No, on Memorial Day you honor those who died in military service to this country and those vets who served, lived and died later. It's to memorialize those who fought in service and died, either in service or afterwards as civilians.

My father and three uncles all served and lived through WWII without injury. My family honors them on veteran's Day and on Memorial Day for their service.


My dad was a Bronze Medal recipient and after having lived through WWII he was bascially a pacifist. He once said no one should have to experience war - it affects you for life. He even had nightmares until his death in 2010. But keeping in line with the OP's original comments... Wars, even "just" wars like WWII Europe are horrible. And the suicide rate for vets of recent tours is alarming. They serve and then are forgotten in the wake of their anguishes, physical or mental.

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See post #1. All that poppy was doing was trying to create a flame bate. No need for that type of posting on Memorial Day. It was like she was stating, people died but for no reason. I ignored it all that day. Thought this turd of a thread would sink.

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