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Reply #30 posted 06/03/19 8:50am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Women don't teach men about being men, other men do. Bad fathers are the answer. Or being around bad crowds. Why young black males are so wild.

WOW wrong mothers do teach their sons about being men, how to treat women, showing respect

WOW it takes 2 to tango, ... read the study again bucko
WOW no wild white males... young black males don't have fathers in their lives

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Reply #31 posted 06/03/19 9:17am

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Conservatives say women cannot teach boys to be men.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #32 posted 06/03/19 10:28am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Conservatives say women cannot teach boys to be men.

ah you're conservative?

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Reply #33 posted 06/03/19 12:29pm

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I just saw something on the Today show that plays into all of this in a roundabout way. It was concerning the movie Aladdin. Im not sure about the premise of the new movie given our changing views in female ability. It was a vid of a 4yo girl explaining her views on Jasmine not having to wait on Aladdin to show her the world she can do that all by herself. It struck me again that those cultures that insist that women are incapable of doing things on their own accord, exert a lot of energy insisting that their ideals ARE the natural order to things. IMHO, if it were natural one wouldn't have to exert so much energy forcing it to be so. It would just be.



I don't follow? Is there an example of middle eastern mothers treating their sons in such a way that some will/will not commit violent acts against other women?




I was not singling out middle eastern culture nor am i eliminating them. I was trying to focus on an overall mentality. Right now i don't have the ti.e to fully articulate what's going on in my head . But today on the Today show they showed a culture that represents some of what I'm seekng and reading. These ideals of what gender is supposed to be based on pure nature, is that the truth? The video of a different culture, a female dominated culture is in the link below. These people don't comprehend the gender-role problems we face in our culture because their way of living is so different than ours they don't experience these problems and they've lived this way for centuries.


https://www.today.com/vid...1135429599


Let me be clear!!!! I am not promoting female dominated societies. Im focusing on one thought and one thought only. Is it simply natural aggression that makes men violent towards women? I do not believe that. There are too many of such societies where you do not see this violence naturally occurring to lay it on just men being men.
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Reply #34 posted 06/06/19 10:41am

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https://www.breitbart.com...p297GbC_7g

Meryl Streep Says 'We Hurt Boys By Calling Something Toxic Masculinity': 'Women Can Be F*cking Toxic Too'

Actress Meryl Streep criticized the use of the term "toxic masculinity," arguing that toxicity is a trait that afflicts both sexes as women can be "pretty fucking toxic too."

Appearing on a cast panel ahead of the season two premiere of Big Little Lies, Streep made the comments in response to a male audience member who said he enjoyed the primarily female-targeted show.

"Sometimes, I think we're hurt," Streep said. "We hurt our boys by calling something toxic masculinity. I do. And I don't find [that] putting those two words together ... because women can be pretty fucking toxic."

"It's toxic people. We have our good angles and we have our bad ones. I think the labels are less helpful than what we're trying to get to, which is communication, direct, between human beings," she continued. "We're all on the boat together. We've got to make it work."

According to The Good Men Project, an organization that seeks to start "conversations about the changing roles of men in the 21st century," toxic masculinity is a "narrow and repressive description of manhood, designating manhood as defined by violence, sex, status, and aggression."

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Reply #35 posted 06/06/19 4:49pm

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When in doubt blame women.

I had sibling who use to blame our parents, my mother especially because he was a life long fuck-up. Funny thing, my other brother and I, no issues. Another thing, when he got in trouble the same cry baby would attempt to come to our mother ask her to bail him out, then get pissed when she didn't, go figure.

Take responsibility for your actions, thoughts and deeds.


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Actually it's usually men/fathers that are blamed over mothers, but yeah parents are blamed

But what parents instill and do/do not to a baby/child/teen influences who they think/behave etc in life, that cannot be denied.

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Stopped breastfeeding the child
You put 'em on the cow
And now you wonder why they act wild

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but what you posted isn't what this thread is about.

TD3 said:

When in doubt blame women.

I had sibling who use to blame our parents, my mother especially because he was a life long fuck-up. Funny thing, my other brother and I, no issues. Another thing, when he got in trouble the same cry baby would attempt to come to our mother ask her to bail him out, then get pissed when she didn't, go figure.

Take responsibility for your actions, thoughts and deeds.


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Reply #37 posted 06/06/19 5:09pm

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https://www.breitbart.com...p297GbC_7g



Meryl Streep Says 'We Hurt Boys By Calling Something Toxic Masculinity': 'Women Can Be F*cking Toxic Too'




Actress Meryl Streep criticized the use of the term "toxic masculinity," arguing that toxicity is a trait that afflicts both sexes as women can be "pretty fucking toxic too."


Appearing on a cast panel ahead of the season two premiere of Big Little Lies, Streep made the comments in response to a male audience member who said he enjoyed the primarily female-targeted show.



"Sometimes, I think we're hurt," Streep said. "We hurt our boys by calling something toxic masculinity. I do. And I don't find [that] putting those two words together ... because women can be pretty fucking toxic."



"It's toxic people. We have our good angles and we have our bad ones. I think the labels are less helpful than what we're trying to get to, which is communication, direct, between human beings," she continued. "We're all on the boat together. We've got to make it work."


According to The Good Men Project, an organization that seeks to start "conversations about the changing roles of men in the 21st century," toxic masculinity is a "narrow and repressive description of manhood, designating manhood as defined by violence, sex, status, and aggression."




Excellent article and so true! clapping
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Reply #38 posted 06/06/19 7:22pm

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Actually it's usually men/fathers that are blamed over mothers, but yeah parents are blamed

But what parents instill and do/do not to a baby/child/teen influences who they think/behave etc in life, that cannot be denied.

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Stopped breastfeeding the child
You put 'em on the cow
And now you wonder why they act wild

-Meshell Ndegeocello

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but what you posted isn't what this thread is about.

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When in doubt blame women.

Yes it is. I can't speak for what's happening around the world, but at present Americans spend a lot of time blaming, complaining, and whining damn near about everything. I'm aware some children live in household were parents, father's and/or mother's aren't emotionally able to nurture a child to adulthood. I can definitely understand the fallout.

A lot of men who don't grow up in these circumstances and yet they are violent. Last year Harvey Weinstein excused his behavior because all of his life he had to fight for (being poor and ugly) whatever he wanted. What I do know is, violence and the acceptance of violence is easily justified when men don't get what they won't. Whether they are fighting for power, over a woman, robbing, stealing, and killing. When in doubt blame parent's are mommy. Women have been blamed for men turning out to be homosexual's and everything in under the sun.


These day everything is a trama and to many men think the have a right to lashout, they don't.




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Reply #39 posted 06/06/19 7:31pm

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No it's not

I'm not talking about blaming anyone

TD3 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Actually it's usually men/fathers that are blamed over mothers, but yeah parents are blamed

But what parents instill and do/do not to a baby/child/teen influences who they think/behave etc in life, that cannot be denied.

.

Stopped breastfeeding the child
You put 'em on the cow
And now you wonder why they act wild

-Meshell Ndegeocello

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but what you posted isn't what this thread is about.

Yes it is. I can't speak for what's happening around the world, but at present Americans spend a lot of time blaming, complaining, and whining damn near about everything. I'm aware some children live in household were parents, father's and/or mother's aren't emotionally able to nurture a child to adulthood. I can definitely understand the fallout.

A lot of men who don't grow up in these circumstances and yet they are violent. Last year Harvey Weinstein excused his behavior because all of his life he had to fight for (being poor and ugly) whatever he wanted. What I do know is, violence and the acceptance of violence is easily justified when men don't get what they won't. Whether they are fighting for power, over a woman, robbing, stealing, and killing. When in doubt blame parent's are mommy. Women have been blamed for men turning out to be homosexual's and everything in under the sun.


These day everything is a trama and to many men think the have a right to lashout, they don't.




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Reply #40 posted 06/07/19 6:26am

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Troy Byer: A Letter To My Son

The other night, while I was unpacking the very last box from the move into our new home, I stumbled across several of my son's grade school photographs. I was immediately mesmerized by the series of photographs that perfectly captured my son's seemingly turbo-­‐growth-­‐spurt. As I looked at each of the photographs of my "Boo-­‐Boo" my heart swiftly swelled with an ...avalanche of regret.

Tears began to sting my eyes as the following two questions mercilessly bounced in my heavy head, "why didn't you spend more time with him? What were you thinking?" As the tears then spilled down my cheeks, I looked into my son's eyes, earnestly searching forthe answers.

Thankfully, I didn't have to look for long. Within seconds an unexpected smile instantly altered the destiny of the last remorseful tear I would shed. The answers to both questions instantly appeared on the tip of my tongue and as I lovingly absorbed every fiber of my son's image, the following words flowed effortlessly pass my lips as if I were truly speaking to him.

Yes, my child, without a doubt, I could have spent more time with you. However, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, during the times I was not with you, I was extremely busy becoming the me someone like you would need your mother to be. When you were not with me, I believe you were with the people and having the experiences you needed to have in order to grow and expand into the person you needed to be (far away from overprotective me).

What was I thinking? Now, that's a good question. In retrospect, I don't remember doing a lot of thinking while raising you. Time to stop, sit and think was a luxury I simply could not afford. There were groceries to buy, meals to cook, homework to do, teachers to meet, bedtime stories to read, colds to cure, school carnivals to co-­create, games to attend, wounds to kiss, tantrums to endure...no, my child, when it came to raising you, thinking was not exactly on my list.

I didn't raise you from my head, I simply trusted my feelings and followed my heart and well, here we are. And, now that I think of it, yes, if I wanted to raise a co-­dependent child lacking in social skills, void of external realities, and a sense of self-reliance, then indeed, I should have spent more time with you.

Suddenly grateful for each and every choice I made as my son's mother, for better or for worse, that sort of smile reshaped my face.

"Happy Mother's Day" I whispered to myself. Yes, I thought, I am a happy mother indeed.

Actress/director Troy Byer appeared on the TV show Dynasty and in the movies John Q and The Cotton Club, among others. She wrote and directed Let's Talk About Sex and Love Don't Cost A Thing, released by Warner Brothers making her the first woman of color to write and direct a major studio film.

Byer, who holds a degree in Depth Psychology, is now working with communities and individuals whose lives have been impacted by grief.

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Reply #41 posted 06/07/19 7:41am

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