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Reply #210 posted 05/18/19 1:46am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



SuperFurryAnimal said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:





did anyone here say oabam was or should be required to show it? or did anyone here claim they have a RIGHT to see it?




Show me the law.






the funny part is being a natural born US Citizen is required to serve as president... paying or having paid taxes is not...you can not just ASSUME he MIGHT have broken some law otherwise there is all sorts of things we could demand to see... like School Records...


so there is a thin reason for someone to ask to see a birth certificate... but we as individuals have no right to see it...I guess if Congress or the SCOUTS wanted to see it... or other proof... But there is not requirement to have ever paid taxes.

Maybe a VP or if there was no VP the Speaker... Might be able to make a case...




But not tax forms... that is just something people invented.



They never provided an original birth certificate but something generated/created the same year as released.


You're either a troll or a mental case- either way such nonsense is useless to debate intelligently
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Reply #211 posted 05/18/19 5:39am

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jjhunsecker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:
They never provided an original birth certificate but something generated/created the same year as released.
You're either a troll or a mental case- either way such nonsense is useless to debate intelligently

Can someone become President and not be a natural born citizen? Show me the law. Show me the law related to the Presidents taxes.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #212 posted 05/18/19 6:11am

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2elijah said:
They’re trump clowns performing for trump’s circus. If they were that confident about trump being president, they would have no need to constantly keep Hillary or Obama’s name in trump threads. They’re too delusional/brainwashed/and mindf****d by trump to admit that bringing up Hillary or Obama’s name will not erase the ugly truths/facts about trump. They’ll have a breakdown when trump finally leaves office. Lol. I agree that if he has nothing to hide, then why the lawsuits/bullying? Just release the damn taxes and stop the bs. [Edited 5/17/19 12:26pm]
The Mueller report thoroughly investigated Trump's finances and found zero collusion. If Trump or any other politician is hiding something they would not hide it on tax returns. You should think about that when thinking about Obama's and Clinton's actions. This is disgraceful to conspiracy theorists everywhere.


Actually, the "zero collusion" doesn't have anything to do with it (and as an aside - Mueller did not investigate "collusion" so of course he found "zero collusion" since he wasn't even investigating that).

But here is what Trump's taxes could reveal if released:


The documents will reveal information about the sources of Trump’s income and any foreign bank accounts in countries that guarantee secrecy, as well as provide more information about his use of tax-planning strategies and offshore companies. The information Neal requested, if provided, also would be more than enough to see whether the 2017 tax reform law directly benefitted Trump.


The New York Times expose...tax fraud by Trump’s father and, by extension Trump and his siblings, suggests that the Trump family is not averse to tax strategies that avoid or even evade taxes. More current returns could show if the president is following his father’s example, as described by the The New York Times, of allegedly engaging in real-estate related tax maneuvers that greatly increased the fortune his children received.


Trump’s financial ties to Russian or other foreign interests may be influencing his policy decisions. These tax returns are an important key to unlocking those truths.


It doesn't matter about "zero collusion". What matters is whether Trump could be blackmailed by a a foreign country, or that he is generating policies that benefit him or the foreign nationals in the countries that he is doing business. Trump could be financially compromised. But our Congress, those that provide oversight to the presidency of the United States, would not know that without the tax returns. This is why presidents have released those returns, to show that their finances are in no way compromised and that they could not blackmailed by a hostile foreign nation.



[Edited 5/18/19 6:27am]

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Reply #213 posted 05/18/19 6:25am

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Here is a link to Trump's financial disclosure statement:


http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/20...al.278.pdf


He earned in 2018: $434 million


That includes $40.8 million in revenue from his Trump International Hotel in Washington, DC, just blocks from the White House.

Trump reported that his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida generated $22.7 million, a slight drop from the $25.1 million he disclosed for 2017.

Overall, Trump's income appears to have gone down from last year, when he reported making at least $450 million.

Trump reported holding outstanding debt of at least $315 million. The disclosure forms allow filers to report ranges, and five of Trump's loans are reported at "over $50 million" making the actual debt total impossible to calculate.


The Trump National Doral golf course in Florida is Trump's biggest single income source, generating a reported $75.9 million in 2018, but the Trump International outranks not just Mar-a-Lago but other prized properties like Trump's Turnberry golf course in Scotland. The President has reported making more than $80 million from the property since taking office.

The hotel, which opened in a leased federal building in 2016, has become a favorite gathering place for Trump and his supporters. But it's also drawn lawsuits, including from Maryland and the District of Columbia, which claim Trump is in violation of a constitutional ban on accepting gifts from foreign and domestic governments.



Reported income from Trump International Hotels Management fell the most -- from $17.1 million in 2017 to just $1.5 million in 2018, according to disclosures. But other parts of his empire were less flush, too, including the Wollman Rink in Central Park -- which dropped from $9.2 million to $8.5 million.



Financial disclosure documents do not reveal as much about finances as a tax return, which includes granular details about income and asset valuations, along with other information.
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Reply #214 posted 05/18/19 7:31am

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Why does anyone bother even trying to debate them pro Trump sycophants? Their view is whatever Trump does is right or at least excusable. While the exact same behavior or actions by a Clinton or Obama or any Democrat would be vehemently attacked. It's impossible to debate such partisan toadies.
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Reply #215 posted 05/18/19 7:42am

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Why does anyone bother even trying to debate them pro Trump sycophants? Their view is whatever Trump does is right or at least excusable. While the exact same behavior or actions by a Clinton or Obama or any Democrat would be vehemently attacked. It's impossible to debate such partisan toadies.

part of the issue is I have called trump out many times and I have given you the change to call out people you like for their wrong doing or missteps and you do not seem willing or able.

I do not recall so I will say this in general: some of the same people that deafened barack (rightfully) over him not releasing his birth certificate seem to be some of the main ones that think they have a right to see trump's tax forms.

And then they resort to name calling?

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Reply #216 posted 05/18/19 8:22am

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jjhunsecker said:

Why does anyone bother even trying to debate them pro Trump sycophants? Their view is whatever Trump does is right or at least excusable. While the exact same behavior or actions by a Clinton or Obama or any Democrat would be vehemently attacked. It's impossible to debate such partisan toadies.

Still waiting for you to show me the law that requires Trump to show his tax returns.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #217 posted 05/18/19 8:45am

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jjhunsecker said:


Why does anyone bother even trying to debate them pro Trump sycophants? Their view is whatever Trump does is right or at least excusable. While the exact same behavior or actions by a Clinton or Obama or any Democrat would be vehemently attacked. It's impossible to debate such partisan toadies.


Still waiting for you to show me the law that requires Trump to show his tax returns.



It's not a law (though it should be). It's a tradition in modern times.
What does he have to hide?
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Reply #218 posted 05/18/19 8:50am

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Can you imagine if say, Julien Castro, had millions of dollars and refused to explain where it came from or how he acquired it. I GUARANTEE that these Trump ass-lickers would be singing a completely different tune .
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Reply #219 posted 05/18/19 9:10am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Still waiting for you to show me the law that requires Trump to show his tax returns.

It's not a law (though it should be). It's a tradition in modern times. What does he have to hide?

so you want to amend the Constitution? and you think that is is that important? Well good luck with that.

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Reply #220 posted 05/18/19 9:10am

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Can you imagine if say, Julien Castro, had millions of dollars and refused to explain where it came from or how he acquired it. I GUARANTEE that these Trump ass-lickers would be singing a completely different tune .

Strawman!

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Reply #221 posted 05/18/19 9:40am

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benni said:



SuperFurryAnimal said:


2elijah said:
They’re trump clowns performing for trump’s circus. If they were that confident about trump being president, they would have no need to constantly keep Hillary or Obama’s name in trump threads. They’re too delusional/brainwashed/and mindf****d by trump to admit that bringing up Hillary or Obama’s name will not erase the ugly truths/facts about trump. They’ll have a breakdown when trump finally leaves office. Lol. I agree that if he has nothing to hide, then why the lawsuits/bullying? Just release the damn taxes and stop the bs. [Edited 5/17/19 12:26pm]

The Mueller report thoroughly investigated Trump's finances and found zero collusion. If Trump or any other politician is hiding something they would not hide it on tax returns. You should think about that when thinking about Obama's and Clinton's actions. This is disgraceful to conspiracy theorists everywhere.


Actually, the "zero collusion" doesn't have anything to do with it (and as an aside - Mueller did not investigate "collusion" so of course he found "zero collusion" since he wasn't even investigating that).

But here is what Trump's taxes could reveal if released:


The documents will reveal information about the sources of Trump’s income and any foreign bank accounts in countries that guarantee secrecy, as well as provide more information about his use of tax-planning strategies and offshore companies. The information Neal requested, if provided, also would be more than enough to see whether the 2017 tax reform law directly benefitted Trump.


The New York Times expose...tax fraud by Trump’s father and, by extension Trump and his siblings, suggests that the Trump family is not averse to tax strategies that avoid or even evade taxes. More current returns could show if the president is following his father’s example, as described by the The New York Times, of allegedly engaging in real-estate related tax maneuvers that greatly increased the fortune his children received.


Trump’s financial ties to Russian or other foreign interests may be influencing his policy decisions. These tax returns are an important key to unlocking those truths.


It doesn't matter about "zero collusion". What matters is whether Trump could be blackmailed by a a foreign country, or that he is generating policies that benefit him or the foreign nationals in the countries that he is doing business. Trump could be financially compromised. But our Congress, those that provide oversight to the presidency of the United States, would not know that without the tax returns. This is why presidents have released those returns, to show that their finances are in no way compromised and that they could not blackmailed by a hostile foreign nation.



[Edited 5/18/19 6:27am]



Again, an excellent post, and a wonderful contrast to the illogic and partisanship on display throughout this thread
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Reply #222 posted 05/18/19 9:40am

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jjhunsecker said:

Can you imagine if say, Julien Castro, had millions of dollars and refused to explain where it came from or how he acquired it. I GUARANTEE that these Trump ass-lickers would be singing a completely different tune .


No, I cannot imagine it. Anytime you try to get a straightforward answer out of these Trumpers, what gets thrown up is a wall of static that could reach the moon and back. Nothing of substance, ever.

The only conclusion I can come to is they have NO IDEA why he does anything. They applaud him for obstructing rational questions, and protect him and themselves from any adult discourse. Seriously, we woud get more well thought out replies out of 5 year olds.

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Reply #223 posted 05/18/19 9:48am

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jjhunsecker said:

Can you imagine if say, Julien Castro, had millions of dollars and refused to explain where it came from or how he acquired it. I GUARANTEE that these Trump ass-lickers would be singing a completely different tune .


No, I cannot imagine it. Anytime you try to get a straightforward answer out of these Trumpers, what gets thrown up is a wall of static that could reach the moon and back. Nothing of substance, ever.

The only conclusion I can come to is they have NO IDEA why he does anything. They applaud him for obstructing rational questions, and protect him and themselves from any adult discourse. Seriously, we woud get more well thought out replies out of 5 year olds.

you totally made that up. i give straight answers... you just do not like them. I was told I would not accept the findings of the muller report and I said I would... and I have. Now we have people making stuff up about it... or as we see here inventing rights and assuming there must be something criminal in his taxes.

anyone that is mad that there was no collusion of that is mad that in the years of taxes we have seen there is no evidence of any crimes... then maybe is is them that are not being straight?

But I am the one acting like a child??? LOL okay.

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Reply #224 posted 05/18/19 10:03am

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poppys said:



jjhunsecker said:


Can you imagine if say, Julien Castro, had millions of dollars and refused to explain where it came from or how he acquired it. I GUARANTEE that these Trump ass-lickers would be singing a completely different tune .



No, I cannot imagine it. Anytime you try to get a straightforward answer out of these Trumpers, what gets thrown up is a wall of static that could reach the moon and back. Nothing of substance, ever.

The only conclusion I can come to is they have NO IDEA why he does anything. They applaud him for obstructing rational questions, and protect him and themselves from any adult discourse. Seriously, we woud get more well thought out replies out of 5 year olds.



It's all about "sticking it to the libs !"
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Reply #225 posted 05/18/19 10:28am

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poppys said:


No, I cannot imagine it. Anytime you try to get a straightforward answer out of these Trumpers, what gets thrown up is a wall of static that could reach the moon and back. Nothing of substance, ever.

The only conclusion I can come to is they have NO IDEA why he does anything. They applaud him for obstructing rational questions, and protect him and themselves from any adult discourse. Seriously, we woud get more well thought out replies out of 5 year olds.

It's all about "sticking it to the libs !"

and you believe the hearings and the request for trump's taxes is not mostly just trying to stick it to trump?


amazing... and they call me biased!

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Reply #226 posted 05/18/19 10:45am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjhunsecker said:

poppys said: It's all about "sticking it to the libs !"

and you believe the hearings and the request for trump's taxes is not mostly just trying to stick it to trump?


amazing... and they call me biased!



No, it's not Only. The other thing to keep in mind is that Cohen stated Trump does cheat at his taxes. He overinflates his wealth when it suits him and deflates it when it comes time to pay taxes. In this way, he continues to "cheat the system" and pay less in taxes than middle America pays. Is that fair? No. Especially considering the fact that Republicans are against raising taxes on the rich because "we should all pay the same %", except that they're not.

And if Trump is compromised because of investments or finances tied to other countries and due to that is building policy that is advantageous to those countries and their leaders, or even to himself, again, in order to "cheat the system", then Americans need to know that.

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Reply #227 posted 05/18/19 11:00am

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benni said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

and you believe the hearings and the request for trump's taxes is not mostly just trying to stick it to trump?


amazing... and they call me biased!



No, it's not Only. The other thing to keep in mind is that Cohen stated Trump does cheat at his taxes. He overinflates his wealth when it suits him and deflates it when it comes time to pay taxes. In this way, he continues to "cheat the system" and pay less in taxes than middle America pays. Is that fair? No. Especially considering the fact that Republicans are against raising taxes on the rich because "we should all pay the same %", except that they're not.

And if Trump is compromised because of investments or finances tied to other countries and due to that is building policy that is advantageous to those countries and their leaders, or even to himself, again, in order to "cheat the system", then Americans need to know that.

LOL filing your taxes in such a way as to pay as little as possible is not cheating... would you not take a credit or exemption or adjustment you were e titled to take to save a few dollars?

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Reply #228 posted 05/18/19 11:03am

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benni said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




jjhunsecker said:


poppys said: It's all about "sticking it to the libs !"



and you believe the hearings and the request for trump's taxes is not mostly just trying to stick it to trump?


amazing... and they call me biased!





No, it's not Only. The other thing to keep in mind is that Cohen stated Trump does cheat at his taxes. He overinflates his wealth when it suits him and deflates it when it comes time to pay taxes. In this way, he continues to "cheat the system" and pay less in taxes than middle America pays. Is that fair? No. Especially considering the fact that Republicans are against raising taxes on the rich because "we should all pay the same %", except that they're not.

And if Trump is compromised because of investments or finances tied to other countries and due to that is building policy that is advantageous to those countries and their leaders, or even to himself, again, in order to "cheat the system", then Americans need to know that.



Very true. We need to know if our President can be compromised, or is beholden to foreign entities, or is using the power of the office to enrich himself.

Some here don't care about those things ( but then again, weren't satisfied with 11 Benghazi hearings that all came to the same conclusion...and want more until they get the outcome that they prefer)
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Reply #229 posted 05/18/19 11:07am

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jjhunsecker said:

benni said:



No, it's not Only. The other thing to keep in mind is that Cohen stated Trump does cheat at his taxes. He overinflates his wealth when it suits him and deflates it when it comes time to pay taxes. In this way, he continues to "cheat the system" and pay less in taxes than middle America pays. Is that fair? No. Especially considering the fact that Republicans are against raising taxes on the rich because "we should all pay the same %", except that they're not.

And if Trump is compromised because of investments or finances tied to other countries and due to that is building policy that is advantageous to those countries and their leaders, or even to himself, again, in order to "cheat the system", then Americans need to know that.

Very true. We need to know if our President can be compromised, or is beholden to foreign entities, or is using the power of the office to enrich himself. Some here don't care about those things ( but then again, weren't satisfied with 11 Benghazi hearings that all came to the same conclusion...and want more until they get the outcome that they prefer)

there needs to be basis for such not just made up wishful thinking...

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Reply #230 posted 05/18/19 11:14am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

jjhunsecker said:

benni said: Very true. We need to know if our President can be compromised, or is beholden to foreign entities, or is using the power of the office to enrich himself. Some here don't care about those things ( but then again, weren't satisfied with 11 Benghazi hearings that all came to the same conclusion...and want more until they get the outcome that they prefer)

there needs to be basis for such not just made up wishful thinking...


“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” Eric Trump






HOW RUSSIAN MONEY HELPED SAVE TRUMP'S BUSINESS


https://foreignpolicy.com...-business/



After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.





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Reply #231 posted 05/18/19 12:45pm

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benni said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

there needs to be basis for such not just made up wishful thinking...


“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” Eric Trump






HOW RUSSIAN MONEY HELPED SAVE TRUMP'S BUSINESS


https://foreignpolicy.com...-business/



After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.





okay and?

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Reply #232 posted 05/18/19 1:31pm

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benni said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




jjhunsecker said:


benni said: Very true. We need to know if our President can be compromised, or is beholden to foreign entities, or is using the power of the office to enrich himself. Some here don't care about those things ( but then again, weren't satisfied with 11 Benghazi hearings that all came to the same conclusion...and want more until they get the outcome that they prefer)


there needs to be basis for such not just made up wishful thinking...




“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” Eric Trump






HOW RUSSIAN MONEY HELPED SAVE TRUMP'S BUSINESS


https://foreignpolicy.com...-business/




After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.








Facts are not going to matter to these Trump toadies
Remember "Truth isn't truth "...
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Reply #233 posted 05/18/19 1:43pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

benni said:


“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” Eric Trump






HOW RUSSIAN MONEY HELPED SAVE TRUMP'S BUSINESS


https://foreignpolicy.com...-business/



After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.





okay and?

For me, and I can only speak for me, it's a moral issue. There is a very, very fine line between stretching the law to it's absolute limits to avoid paying tax (thereby getting rich) and committing fraud (in order to get rich). There is no doubt that Trump was falsely acting like he had way more money than he actually had in order to get people to invest in him. Fraudsters lie in order to get people to invest in them. So, he may not have broken the law IMO, but he stretched it to the hilt to avoid paying the money he should morally have paid, and that would help to 'make America great again'. Plus numerous times he has said he will release them, and he hasn't. Morally...well, the man has no morals, so we'll leave it there.

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Reply #234 posted 05/18/19 1:49pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

okay and?

For me, and I can only speak for me, it's a moral issue. There is a very, very fine line between stretching the law to it's absolute limits to avoid paying tax (thereby getting rich) and committing fraud (in order to get rich). There is no doubt that Trump was falsely acting like he had way more money than he actually had in order to get people to invest in him. Fraudsters lie in order to get people to invest in them. So, he may not have broken the law IMO, but he stretched it to the hilt to avoid paying the money he should morally have paid, and that would help to 'make America great again'. Plus numerous times he has said he will release them, and he hasn't. Morally...well, the man has no morals, so we'll leave it there.

okay... and did you think he was a moral man in May 2016?

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

maplenpg said:

For me, and I can only speak for me, it's a moral issue. There is a very, very fine line between stretching the law to it's absolute limits to avoid paying tax (thereby getting rich) and committing fraud (in order to get rich). There is no doubt that Trump was falsely acting like he had way more money than he actually had in order to get people to invest in him. Fraudsters lie in order to get people to invest in them. So, he may not have broken the law IMO, but he stretched it to the hilt to avoid paying the money he should morally have paid, and that would help to 'make America great again'. Plus numerous times he has said he will release them, and he hasn't. Morally...well, the man has no morals, so we'll leave it there.

okay... and did you think he was a moral man in May 2016?

He was born to parents with no morals, so he never stood a chance. No.

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Reply #236 posted 05/18/19 3:21pm

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maplenpg said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




maplenpg said:



For me, and I can only speak for me, it's a moral issue. There is a very, very fine line between stretching the law to it's absolute limits to avoid paying tax (thereby getting rich) and committing fraud (in order to get rich). There is no doubt that Trump was falsely acting like he had way more money than he actually had in order to get people to invest in him. Fraudsters lie in order to get people to invest in them. So, he may not have broken the law IMO, but he stretched it to the hilt to avoid paying the money he should morally have paid, and that would help to 'make America great again'. Plus numerous times he has said he will release them, and he hasn't. Morally...well, the man has no morals, so we'll leave it there.





okay... and did you think he was a moral man in May 2016?



He was born to parents with no morals, so he never stood a chance. No.



He's an immoral and indecent man. It's a joke that these so-called "Evangelical Christians" consider him a great leader and twist themselves into a position to justify supporting such a degenerate
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Reply #237 posted 05/19/19 3:46am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:



DiminutiveRocker said:


BACK TO TRUMP'S TAXES.....




There is no good reason NOT to release them if they are on the up and up.




They were investigted by Mueller report. Robert Mueller read through all the taxes must have found no collusion and that Trump paid his taxes on time in a clear and concise manner, Trump filled out all the forms correctly, even used the proper postage to send in his taxes and everything. Paid them in full.


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. I got to ask: why do Trump Suppporters compelled to include patriotic clip art in post defending Trump? Is it suppose to be some second rate Jedi mind trick? Is it to give an false patriotism to anything said without examination in fear of being un-American? Or do you have too much time on your hands? Why not throw in a gif of Jesus giving tTrump a thumbs up when he houses people seeking sanction under overpasses or cheats at golf?
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Reply #238 posted 05/19/19 7:45am

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littlemissG said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

They were investigted by Mueller report. Robert Mueller read through all the taxes must have found no collusion and that Trump paid his taxes on time in a clear and concise manner, Trump filled out all the forms correctly, even used the proper postage to send in his taxes and everything. Paid them in full.



. I got to ask: why do Trump Suppporters compelled to include patriotic clip art in post defending Trump? Is it suppose to be some second rate Jedi mind trick? Is it to give an false patriotism to anything said without examination in fear of being un-American? Or do you have too much time on your hands? Why not throw in a gif of Jesus giving Trump a thumbs up when he houses people seeking sanction under overpasses or cheats at golf?


Because it's totally infantile, so they use large crayon type and big pictures. Face it, Trump supporters are intellectually and emotionally challenged - they prove it to us in every thread.

Take the above for instance. Says Robert Mueller read through all the taxes. Really? No one knows that and if it was something Mueller did that they do not like, they would attack him, a Republican, their party.

Then it goes on to say - Trump filled out all the forms correctly, even used the proper postage to send in his taxes and everything. Trump used proper postage - LMAO - licked all the stamps, huh? This is pure D trolling and a waste of our time, they love doing that.

I saw that story where Trump cheated at golf recently with a pro and his child. The caddy switched out the kid's ball for Trumps when they were walking to the green. PATHETIC

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For me, and I can only speak for me, it's a moral issue. There is a very, very fine line between stretching the law to it's absolute limits to avoid paying tax (thereby getting rich) and committing fraud (in order to get rich). There is no doubt that Trump was falsely acting like he had way more money than he actually had in order to get people to invest in him. Fraudsters lie in order to get people to invest in them. So, he may not have broken the law IMO, but he stretched it to the hilt to avoid paying the money he should morally have paid, and that would help to 'make America great again'. Plus numerous times he has said he will release them, and he hasn't. Morally...well, the man has no morals, so we'll leave it there.





okay... and did you think he was a moral man in May 2016?



He was born to parents with no morals, so he never stood a chance. No.


The branch certainly isn’t far from the tree. His grandfather left Germany to avoid the military. His father lied about his German ancestry to attract Jewish renters, was a racist and supported the kkk. Trump is s liar, racist, conman, tax cheater, adulterer, and brags about grabbing womens’ private parts. Is anyone surprised that trump is any of these things? A degenerate to say the least. He seems attract close what he is.
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As an American you have a right to question/call your country out on its wrongs/injustices. That doesn’t make you un-American nor does anyone have a right to tell you to leave, because you have the courage to stand up against any injustice in this count
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