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Reply #90 posted 05/05/19 10:32am

OnlyNDaUsa

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PennyPurple said:

It's always fun to critique someone when you have no ideas yourself.

Okay let's talk gun bans are you for or against gun bans for the general public who can pass a background check and if so what kinds of guns should be banned?

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Reply #91 posted 05/05/19 10:33am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Zero chance you would ever agree that guns should be treated like car... ZERO!

Why is that?

I am not going guess why... I am just positive you would not.

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Reply #92 posted 05/05/19 10:45am

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A weapon that looks like it could be used in the military. Any rifle that looks like a gun of war. Duh.

Gun tax Jim Crow? Thanks for the laugh dude.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #93 posted 05/05/19 10:45am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

It's always fun to critique someone when you have no ideas yourself.

Okay let's talk gun bans are you for or against gun bans for the general public who can pass a background check and if so what kinds of guns should be banned?

All America needs to do is look at all the other countries in the world that don't have mass shootings (or certainly have them much less frequently than America). Ask themselves, "What do they do differently?" Might find the answer is pretty simple. They might even find there's not a great need to have one just in case the boogyman comes either.

If you're going to refer to people as 'scum', at least have a reason to do so.
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Reply #94 posted 05/05/19 10:53am

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2freaky4church1 said:

A weapon that looks like it could be used in the military. Any rifle that looks like a gun of war. Duh.



Gun tax Jim Crow? Thanks for the laugh dude.




So if it looks scary?
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Reply #95 posted 05/05/19 10:54am

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Or cool. They think it is cool to kill.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #96 posted 05/05/19 2:36pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Or cool. They think it is cool to kill.

I am not sure what world you live in? Maybe you have been watching too many Pixar cartoons...but in my world guns do not have a conscience and are not self aware or sentient and thus have no opnion a to how cool or uncool it is to kill.

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Reply #97 posted 05/05/19 2:37pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

A weapon that looks like it could be used in the military. Any rifle that looks like a gun of war. Duh.

Gun tax Jim Crow? Thanks for the laugh dude.

a tax on a RIGHT meant to prevent some people from being able to exercise it.

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Being a die-hard libertarian,
Sometimes I have to defend
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Reply #98 posted 05/05/19 2:58pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

A weapon that looks like it could be used in the military. Any rifle that looks like a gun of war. Duh.

Gun tax Jim Crow? Thanks for the laugh dude.

a tax on a RIGHT meant to prevent some people from being able to exercise it.

A felon doesn't have the right to bear arms. Rights can be taken away from people.

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Reply #99 posted 05/05/19 3:00pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Zero chance you would ever agree that guns should be treated like car... ZERO!

Why is that?

okay I will tell you why:

If guns were treated like cars

1) a license to use is obtainable at 16 (15 if there is some need)
2) Testing: as long as it is kept current most people take one written test and on practical test (no classes necessary) for 50 years.
3) all states recognise all other state licenses
4) total open use

5) free public storage

6) Licenses kids can take them to school just secure them in the parking lot
7) licenses only have to renew every 5 to 10 years and sometimes on line
8) no background checks
9) may sell or transfer freely even across lines
10) bullets sold by the pound at self serve kiosks all over town
11) may take out a loan to buy or use as collateral for personal loans.
12) a regsatration fee paid every year but it goes to government funded ranges which are open 24/7

13) you can rent a gun even at the airport
14) use a phone app and someone comes with a gun and you go shooting....

so do you still want them treated like cars?

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Reply #100 posted 05/05/19 3:01pm

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

a tax on a RIGHT meant to prevent some people from being able to exercise it.

A felon doesn't have the right to bear arms. Rights can be taken away from people.

with due process... and if we are going to let felons vote then they get guns too.. if prison inmates can vote while in prison they can have guns in prison too!

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Reply #101 posted 05/05/19 3:03pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

PennyPurple said:

A felon doesn't have the right to bear arms. Rights can be taken away from people.

with due process... and if we are going to let felons vote then they get guns too.. if prison inmates can vote while in prison they can have guns in prison too!

As far as I know felons can't vote in prison. Felons loose their rights. Felons can vote when they serve their time, I don't think they can even vote when they are on Parole. After they've served their time they can re-register to vote.

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Reply #102 posted 05/05/19 3:14pm

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PennyPurple said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

with due process... and if we are going to let felons vote then they get guns too.. if prison inmates can vote while in prison they can have guns in prison too!

As far as I know felons can't vote in prison. Felons loose their rights. Felons can vote when they serve their time, I don't think they can even vote when they are on Parole. After they've served their time they can re-register to vote.

that is something I think Saders is pushing...

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Reply #103 posted 05/05/19 3:50pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

A weapon that looks like it could be used in the military. Any rifle that looks like a gun of war. Duh.

Gun tax Jim Crow? Thanks for the laugh dude.

So if it looks scary?


Right?

What utter nonsense.

Ross Perot was right!!
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Reply #104 posted 05/05/19 3:59pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:




Zero chance you would ever agree that guns should be treated like car... ZERO!



Why is that?


I am not going guess why... I am just positive you would not.



Lol I just said it was important. It’s basic common sense.
Persistent Turd is the shit.
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Reply #105 posted 05/05/19 5:59pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am not going guess why... I am just positive you would not.

Lol I just said it was important. It’s basic common sense.

see reply #99 get schooled and admit you do not want guns to be treated like guns

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Reply #106 posted 05/05/19 6:25pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:



I am not going guess why... I am just positive you would not.



Lol I just said it was important. It’s basic common sense.



see reply #99 get schooled and admit you do not want guns to be treated like guns



Lol. You always love to make up your own straw man arguments. Why didn’t you respond to what I specifically noted. And I don’t object to most of your own argument that you think I would object to. Have people pass the tests at 16 cool with me.

Nevermind I know your just trolling.
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Reply #107 posted 05/06/19 7:38am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

BombSquad said:

it' s always funny (and frightening) how some silly fucks honestly think that they could use their cute little Mickey Mouse guns to defend themselves successfully against a military machine with nukes, tanks and fighter jets


the NRA already sucessully ruined their naive paranoid Mickey Mouse brains LOL idiots



That is what the typical german said in the 1930s.


LMFAO unreal. you really dive into that old Nazi gun contol bullshit argument? seriously??

oh boy, there is no better way to assure that you have NO clue about history whatsoever.

you are proof that the NRA misinformation and fake history propganda works. at least on naive uninformed partisan hacks & tools, that do not even have the most basic education themselves.


so to quote Mark Twain: Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. so listen clown, first, contary to your NRA propganda bullshit Hitler after coming to power (democratically elected, not with guns) did not restrict gun ownership, he even LOOSENED the very tight gun laws that were introduced in Germany after WWI. look it up and educate yourself.

after WWII the allied troops were even surprised to find so many guns in private possesion

but even if Germans would have had 100 times more guns than they already possesed, that would not have prevented Hitler one single bit. cause most of those guns would have been used in SUPPORT of Hitler! Duh!
fact check for the dumb and uninformed: Hitler was BY FAR the most popular leader Germany has ever had.

to suggest more guns amongst private owners could have stopped him is like suggesting, more guns among US citizens would have stopped Jefferson, Washington or Roosevelt.
Or Lincoln. Or Kennedy. oh wait..... forget about the last two

dumb DUMB DUMBER!!

Hitlers popularity lasted even long into WWII almost up until the very last few months. cause until then the proganda was working smoothly, only after it became more and more obvious that Germany was loosing the war and heading towards a catastrophe, he lost more and more support.

yes there was some opposition and resistance of course, but it was marginal and a minority, and no, more guns would not have enabled them to overtake the regime.

hell, Hitlers army was running over half of Europe, kicking the armies of Poland, Belgium, France and many other countries, the Russians lost 7 million soldiers (!). so to suggest a few underground fighters would have had a better chance is utterly ridicuolus and plain stupid.


your post just shows that contrary to your claims you do NOT think by yourself or do research, but rather just blindly repeat any propganda nonsense those Fox clowns or NRA cunts feed you

10 minutes of research could have saved you. but no, you chose to remain ignorant. and I know it will stay this way. so I will bookmark this thread until you bring up the same bullshit in future debates like a good trained parrot.


[Edited 5/6/19 9:19am]

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Reply #108 posted 05/06/19 8:06am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

1) OK so what? we are all wiped out? why do you care? In fact you wished death on all NRA members...classy!


and? what is wrong with that? they are criminal and terrorist supporting scum

so they deserve a painful death

they want innocents to die just as the price on has to pay for selling more guns

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CIVIL RIGHTS BUT EVERYTHING TO DO WITH MAKING MONEY

and if you were told something elsem then that was just more fake bullshit like that old Nazi gun control chestnut


2) tell that to other countries with a far superior military that got their ass handed to them by people with Micky Mouse guns. (and you know we would kill one and pick up their gun)

a far superior military than the US? uhhhm.... and that would be....?

please name those superiour countries who got their asses handed, I'm curious now...

3) it is more than fighting off a military it is also maybe a woman should not have to get rapped waiting 30 mins for a cop to show up...

completely different topic. a well regulated milita... the whole 2nd... has nothing to do with rape.

next

4) if there was an uprising or whatever some of the US military would side with the people.


exaclty! in the end the side will most likely win that has the majority of the military on their side. which means it is completely irrelevant how much Mickey Mouse guns are in private homes!

thanks for proving my point

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Reply #109 posted 05/06/19 8:13am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

13cjk13 said:

The right wing idiots in this country are afraid of everything. Whining, crying, butt hurt assholes.

Lol who is afraid? Who is skert of guns? Who wants some guns banned but doesn't seem to know why?

fact check:

A) mass shootings and other gun deahts of innocents in the last 200 years:
a billion trillion gazillion


B) number of desctructive US goverments taken out by the people in the last 200 years

0



so there is a reason to be at least a bit of afraid of guns freely handed out to criminals

but to be actually afraid of the US goverment (even with that stupid fat orange fuck in power) is just surreal and idiotic P.A.R.A.N.O.I.A.

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Reply #110 posted 05/06/19 8:21am

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just for fun, for a moment let's assume that the US people REALLY would have a good chance to throw over the US goverment which has by far the most powerful army at their hand

then the US people with Mickey Mouse guns must also be powerful enough to take out let's say the Russian military (or any other nations) with the quickness, right?

so I ask myself, why then keep the big highly expensive and obviously inefficient miltary machine at all? why planes, ships and nukes? people with Mickey Mouse guns are enough anyway. they surely could occupy the whole planet over the next summer holidays

be afraid, world. be VERY afraid of the Mickey Mouse army





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Reply #111 posted 05/06/19 9:57am

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Guns kill period.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #112 posted 05/06/19 10:17am

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BombSquad said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

BombSquad said: That is what the typical german said in the 1930s.


LMFAO unreal. you really dive into that old Nazi gun contol bullshit argument? seriously??

oh boy, there is no better way to assure that you have NO clue about history whatsoever.

you are proof that the NRA misinformation and fake history propganda works. at least on naive uninformed partisan hacks & tools, that do not even have the most basic education themselves.


so to quote Mark Twain: Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. so listen clown, first, contary to your NRA propganda bullshit Hitler after coming to power (democratically elected, not with guns) did not restrict gun ownership, he even LOOSENED the very tight gun laws that were introduced in Germany after WWI. look it up and educate yourself.

after WWII the allied troops were even surprised to find so many guns in private possesion

but even if Germans would have had 100 times more guns than they already possesed, that would not have prevented Hitler one single bit. cause most of those guns would have been used in SUPPORT of Hitler! Duh!
fact check for the dumb and uninformed: Hitler was BY FAR the most popular leader Germany has ever had.

to suggest more guns amongst private owners could have stopped him is like suggesting, more guns among US citizens would have stopped Jefferson, Washington or Roosevelt.
Or Lincoln. Or Kennedy. oh wait..... forget about the last two

dumb DUMB DUMBER!!

Hitlers popularity lasted even long into WWII almost up until the very last few months. cause until then the proganda was working smoothly, only after it became more and more obvious that Germany was loosing the war and heading towards a catastrophe, he lost more and more support.

yes there was some opposition and resistance of course, but it was marginal and a minority, and no, more guns would not have enabled them to overtake the regime.

hell, Hitlers army was running over half of Europe, kicking the armies of Poland, Belgium, France and many other countries, the Russians lost 7 million soldiers (!). so to suggest a few underground fighters would have had a better chance is utterly ridicuolus and plain stupid.


your post just shows that contrary to your claims you do NOT think by yourself or do research, but rather just blindly repeat any propganda nonsense those Fox clowns or NRA cunts feed you

10 minutes of research could have saved you. but no, you chose to remain ignorant. and I know it will stay this way. so I will bookmark this thread until you bring up the same bullshit in future debates like a good trained parrot.


[Edited 5/6/19 9:19am]

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Reply #113 posted 05/06/19 11:03am

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Although cute, the dress can get in the way of killing a man...
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Reply #114 posted 05/06/19 11:38am

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BombSquad said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


BombSquad said:

it' s always funny (and frightening) how some silly fucks honestly think that they could use their cute little Mickey Mouse guns to defend themselves successfully against a military machine with nukes, tanks and fighter jets


the NRA already sucessully ruined their naive paranoid Mickey Mouse brains LOL idiots





That is what the typical german said in the 1930s.




LMFAO unreal. you really dive into that old Nazi gun contol bullshit argument? seriously??


oh boy, there is no better way to assure that you have NO clue about history whatsoever.


you are proof that the NRA misinformation and fake history propganda works. at least on naive uninformed partisan hacks & tools, that do not even have the most basic education themselves.




so to quote Mark Twain: Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. so listen clown, first, contary to your NRA propganda bullshit Hitler after coming to power (democratically elected, not with guns) did not restrict gun ownership, he even LOOSENED the very tight gun laws that were introduced in Germany after WWI. look it up and educate yourself.


after WWII the allied troops were even surprised to find so many guns in private possesion



but even if Germans would have had 100 times more guns than they already possesed, that would not have prevented Hitler one single bit. cause most of those guns would have been used in SUPPORT of Hitler! Duh!
fact check for the dumb and uninformed: Hitler was BY FAR the most popular leader Germany has ever had.


to suggest more guns amongst private owners could have stopped him is like suggesting, more guns among US citizens would have stopped Jefferson, Washington or Roosevelt.
Or Lincoln. Or Kennedy. oh wait..... forget about the last two


dumb DUMB DUMBER!!

Hitlers popularity lasted even long into WWII almost up until the very last few months. cause until then the proganda was working smoothly, only after it became more and more obvious that Germany was loosing the war and heading towards a catastrophe, he lost more and more support.


yes there was some opposition and resistance of course, but it was marginal and a minority, and no, more guns would not have enabled them to overtake the regime.


hell, Hitlers army was running over half of Europe, kicking the armies of Poland, Belgium, France and many other countries, the Russians lost 7 million soldiers (!). so to suggest a few underground fighters would have had a better chance is utterly ridicuolus and plain stupid.





your post just shows that contrary to your claims you do NOT think by yourself or do research, but rather just blindly repeat any propganda nonsense those Fox clowns or NRA cunts feed you



10 minutes of research could have saved you. but no, you chose to remain ignorant. and I know it will stay this way. so I will bookmark this thread until you bring up the same bullshit in future debates like a good trained parrot.



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Except I Was Not talking about gun control...in fact your post backed up mine.
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Reply #115 posted 05/06/19 11:44am

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And i do not believe I've ever read anything the NRA has put out.


You know what they when you assume.
Being a die-hard civil rights champion,
Being a die-hard libertarian,
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Reply #116 posted 05/06/19 11:46am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Guns kill period.




About 1% of the time they are used.
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Reply #117 posted 05/06/19 3:02pm

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Used for what.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #118 posted 05/06/19 11:59pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Except I Was Not talking about gun control...

uhhmm.. well in that case do not reply to my post about gun control (Duh!) and how gun control or guns in private posession are in NO WAY related to the ability of fighting an oppressive totalitarian regime

but most likely that point was over your head again, and your reply was about uhmmmm skiing in the alps or wife swapping instead or whateva.... so your reply was simply outtaplace, you poor confused clown


in fact your post backed up mine.

ummm no it didn't.... especially since you just said it's about a whole different unknown topic than my post was



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Reply #119 posted 05/07/19 12:06am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Guns kill period.

About 1% of the time they are used.

jolly good.
with almost 400 million (!!) guns in circulation that is still WAY too much!

thanks for proving this point




and at the same time the number of hostile goverments in 200 years still amounts to:
ZERO

check




still some parnoid fucks don't care, and rather piss their pants fearing the evil, evil politicians coming after them, and also think Mickey Mouse will save them LMFAO







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