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Reply #510 posted 02/18/19 3:26pm

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PennyPurple said:

There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax.


That’s why everyone needs to be careful when reports read ‘suggested’, ‘possibly’ ‘may have been’, ‘(non-police) sources,’ etc., showing up in many of these news reports, with no official confirmation from police that it was an actual hoax. For example: If they claimed Jussie paid them specifically to concoct a hoax, does the receipt state exactly that or was it for training services by the brothers for his vid? If the receipt doesn’t state the payment was for a hoax, then how can the brothers prove that’s what it was for, unless they have that agreement on a recorded phone conversation or on a written contract.

Anyway, law enforcement is still waiting for an interview with Jussie, and a response from his attorneys. The CPD is still gathering evidence that they state want to present in court, to make their case against Jussie. So right now it’s still the 2 brothers version vs Jussie’s version.

My interest in this case is, if it turns out to be a hoax, then why would anyone want to kill their career like that? So for now, it’s a wait and see.
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Reply #511 posted 02/18/19 4:17pm

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Did someone change the title of this thread? Because the title is not true. Nothing has been proven yet, AND nothing has been confirmed by any Police Official.

As of right now Jusse is still denying it.

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Reply #512 posted 02/18/19 4:19pm

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PennyPurple said:

There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax.


I think it's already been mentioned like a thousand times that it's proper protocol to give Jussie an opportunity to respond to new evidence and information before formally stating it's a hoax. Why you would want to take away due process from Jussie is beyond me, he is entitled to it no matter how much evidence is already stacked up against him. But he can't wait forever, sooner or later him and his attorney will need to talk to the police again.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #513 posted 02/18/19 4:34pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

PennyPurple said:

There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax.


I think it's already been mentioned like a thousand times that it's proper protocol to give Jussie an opportunity to respond to new evidence and information before formally stating it's a hoax. Why you would want to take away due process from Jussie is beyond me, he is entitled to it no matter how much evidence is already stacked up against him. But he can't wait forever, sooner or later him and his attorney will need to talk to the police again.

? if the 'you', you are referring to is me....I'm not the one who is, or wanting to take due process away from Jusse.

If the 'you', you are referring to is other peeps on this thread, then I agree. Again the PD has never confirmed that this is a hoax.....

I said, "There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax. "


Meaning it's only rumor and gossip at this point that it was a hoax.

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Reply #514 posted 02/18/19 4:44pm

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Reply #515 posted 02/18/19 4:46pm

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PennyPurple said:

Did someone change the title of this thread? Because the title is not true. Nothing has been proven yet, AND nothing has been confirmed by any Police Official.


As of right now Jusse is still denying it.


Yes, the mod who created the thread updated the subject title, but the title states ‘suggest’ so yes you’re right, it doesn’t mean it’s been confirmed as a hoax by the police, because the police have said they still need to talk to Jussie or his attorneys, before they can officially confirm it as a hoax, based on the discussion they had with the 2 brothers.
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Reply #516 posted 02/18/19 4:46pm

Pokeno4Money

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PennyPurple said:

Pokeno4Money said:


I think it's already been mentioned like a thousand times that it's proper protocol to give Jussie an opportunity to respond to new evidence and information before formally stating it's a hoax. Why you would want to take away due process from Jussie is beyond me, he is entitled to it no matter how much evidence is already stacked up against him. But he can't wait forever, sooner or later him and his attorney will need to talk to the police again.

? if the 'you', you are referring to is me....I'm not the one who is, or wanting to take due process away from Jusse.

If the 'you', you are referring to is other peeps on this thread, then I agree. Again the PD has never confirmed that this is a hoax.....

I said, "There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax. "


Meaning it's only rumor and gossip at this point that it was a hoax.

Not directed at you, it was directed at all people who think Jussie must not be guilty just because the police haven't said he's guilty. The police cannot say what they are "thinking". They also must treat him as a victim for now, even if they have solid evidence against him. Robin Roberts said the same thing earlier, the police supported Jussie back then because they didn't want him to figure out what they were doing behind the scenes.

But I do have a question for you, Penny.

Why is it when the thread title erroneously stated (for approx 2 weeks) that Jussie was attacked, you didn't have a problem with it?

But now that Luv4U has done the right thing and changed it to "evidence suggests", which is 100% factual, you are pissed?

I'd appreciate an explanation.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #517 posted 02/18/19 4:47pm

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PennyPurple said:

Did someone change the title of this thread? Because the title is not true. Nothing has been proven yet, AND nothing has been confirmed by any Police Official.


As of right now Jusse is still denying it.


Yes, the mod who created the thread updated the subject title, but the title states ‘suggests’ so yes you’re right, it doesn’t mean it’s been confirmed as a hoax.
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Reply #518 posted 02/18/19 5:00pm

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I'm not pissed. I just then noticed the thread title changed. Again, right now it is rumor and gossip that it is a hoax, until the PD come out and formally say either it was or wasn't, I'm not believing anything.

Should it be 'alleged hoax'?


Jusse WAS attacked, no question about it. If it was a 'real' attack is still to be determined. Jusse had a broken rib so he was harmed in the attack, real or not.


Someone said that Jusse still had his subway sandwich with him, Jusse said he never got a sandwich, it was a salad....see how things get twisted by these so called 'police anonymous sources'?

Pokeno4Money said:

PennyPurple said:

? if the 'you', you are referring to is me....I'm not the one who is, or wanting to take due process away from Jusse.

If the 'you', you are referring to is other peeps on this thread, then I agree. Again the PD has never confirmed that this is a hoax.....

I said, "There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax. "


Meaning it's only rumor and gossip at this point that it was a hoax.

Not directed at you, it was directed at all people who think Jussie must not be guilty just because the police haven't said he's guilty. The police cannot say what they are "thinking". They also must treat him as a victim for now, even if they have solid evidence against him. Robin Roberts said the same thing earlier, the police supported Jussie back then because they didn't want him to figure out what they were doing behind the scenes.

But I do have a question for you, Penny.

Why is it when the thread title erroneously stated (for approx 2 weeks) that Jussie was attacked, you didn't have a problem with it?

But now that Luv4U has done the right thing and changed it to "evidence suggests", which is 100% factual, you are pissed?

I'd appreciate an explanation.

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Reply #519 posted 02/18/19 5:00pm

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PennyPurple said:

Pokeno4Money said:


I think it's already been mentioned like a thousand times that it's proper protocol to give Jussie an opportunity to respond to new evidence and information before formally stating it's a hoax. Why you would want to take away due process from Jussie is beyond me, he is entitled to it no matter how much evidence is already stacked up against him. But he can't wait forever, sooner or later him and his attorney will need to talk to the police again.

? if the 'you', you are referring to is me....I'm not the one who is, or wanting to take due process away from Jusse.

If the 'you', you are referring to is other peeps on this thread, then I agree. Again the PD has never confirmed that this is a hoax.....

I said, "There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax. "


Meaning it's only rumor and gossip at this point that it was a hoax.

and very much the same can be said about the claims Jussie made... why only assume what he claims to be true?

he said it "rush to judgement" but not now?


And remember this all happened late Friday not much happens over the 3 day weekend... sometime tomorrow or Wednesday expect more info.

But I have to ask

Which do you prefer to be true?

1) he is telling the truth?
2) he is lying?

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Reply #520 posted 02/18/19 5:01pm

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PennyPurple said:

As of right now Jusse is still denying it.

Does that surprise you? If everything the evidence suggests is true, Jussie is the biggest asshole on the planet. He's a disgusting, selfish, egotistical racist who didn't give a damn about anybody but himself when he came up with this ridiculous hoax. He didn't give a shit about how it would impact REAL victims. He didn't give a shit about how much time, effort and money it cost to investigate his idiotic plot. He didn't give a shit about how he duped and embarassed countless people who actually felt sorry for him and supported him. He didn't give a shit about how it would reflect on the gay community. The black community called out his lying ass from the very beginning, so thankfully it shouldn't affect them. But still, what a complete douchebag.

And you know what? It also sounds like the "death threat letter" was part of his hoax, as the letter cutouts were found in the brothers' crib. If it turns out to be true, the FBI will be all over Jussie's ass.

So no, I'm not the least bit surprised he's still denying it. He's too much of a dick to come clean and apologize. And he probably thinks all his fame, money, privileges and connections will get him out of this mess.





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"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #521 posted 02/18/19 5:05pm

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2elijah said:

PennyPurple said:

Did someone change the title of this thread? Because the title is not true. Nothing has been proven yet, AND nothing has been confirmed by any Police Official.

As of right now Jusse is still denying it.

Yes, the mod who created the thread updated the subject title, but the title states ‘suggest’ so yes you’re right, it doesn’t mean it’s been confirmed as a hoax by the police, because the police have said they still need to talk to Jussie or his attorneys, before they can officially confirm it as a hoax, based on the discussion they had with the 2 brothers. [Edited 2/18/19 16:54pm]

Thanks, it took me off guard when I first saw it was changed. smile

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Reply #522 posted 02/18/19 5:05pm

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PennyPurple said:

I'm not pissed. I just then noticed the thread title changed. Again, right now it is rumor and gossip that it is a hoax, until the PD come out and formally say either it was or wasn't, I'm not believing anything.

Should it be 'alleged hoax'?


Jusse WAS attacked, no question about it. If it was a 'real' attack is still to be determined. Jusse had a broken rib so he was harmed in the attack, real or not.


Someone said that Jusse still had his subway sandwich with him, Jusse said he never got a sandwich, it was a salad....see how things get twisted by these so called 'police anonymous sources'?

huh? that makes no sense... if it was staged then it was NOT an attack... he did NOT Have A Borken rib... learn SOME facts of the case.

He had the sandwich. again learn SOME facts...


And it says "Suggests" not that it is a hoax... and they ARE on record saying they have new evidence from the brothers.

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Reply #523 posted 02/18/19 5:08pm

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PennyPurple said:

I'm not pissed. I just then noticed the thread title changed. Again, right now it is rumor and gossip that it is a hoax, until the PD come out and formally say either it was or wasn't, I'm not believing anything.

Should it be 'alleged hoax'?


Jusse WAS attacked, no question about it. If it was a 'real' attack is still to be determined. Jusse had a broken rib so he was harmed in the attack, real or not.


Someone said that Jusse still had his subway sandwich with him, Jusse said he never got a sandwich, it was a salad....see how things get twisted by these so called 'police anonymous sources'?

Knock knock ... Penny.

Knock knock ... Penny.

Knock knock ... Penny.

(sorry, couldn't resist lol )

Jussie himself confirmed he was never hospitalized, and he never had a broken rib. Medical reports have it as nothing more than a very mild bruised rib, which he could have easily inflicted himself.

And he himself has stated he got BOTH a salad and a tuna sub. See how the fake news has twisted things so much that you have all these wrong beliefs?

Here da link: https://www.gq.com/story/...m-not-weak

“I’m not going to go out and get a tuna sandwich and a salad to meet somebody. That’s ridiculous and it’s offensive.”

Comical how HE calls OTHERS "offensive", just like HE called HIS CRITICS "racist". Pot meet kettle.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #524 posted 02/18/19 5:14pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

PennyPurple said:

As of right now Jusse is still denying it.

Does that surprise you? If everything the evidence suggests is true, Jussie is the biggest asshole on the planet. He's a disgusting, selfish, egotistical racist who didn't give a damn about anybody but himself when he came up with this ridiculous hoax. He didn't give a shit about how it would impact REAL victims. He didn't give a shit about how much time, effort and money it cost to investigate his iditiotic plot. He didn't give a shit about how he duped and embarassed countless people who actually felt sorry for him and supported him. He didn't give a shit about how it would reflect on the gay community. The black community called out his lying ass from the very beginning, so thankfully it shouldn't affect them. But still, what a complete douchebag.

And you know what? It also sounds like the "death threat letter" was part of his hoax, as the letter cutouts were found in the brothers' crib. If it turns out to be true, the FBI will be all over Jussie's ass.

So no, I'm not the least bit surprised he's still denying it. He's too much of a dick to come clean and apologize. And he probably thinks all his fame, money and connections will get him out of this mess.

If it is a hoax, then WTF was he thinking? His career would be ruined. And why would he go on Good Morning America for that interview? It would be very stupid of him.

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Reply #525 posted 02/18/19 5:18pm

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Who is there? biggrin

I didn't see where Jusse confirmed that he wasn't in the hospital, nor the broken rib. Wasn't there a pic of him laying there with the scratch on his face? I presumed it to be a hospital bed. I never heard the part about the tuna sandwich either, just the salad.

What a friggin mess.

Pokeno4Money said:

PennyPurple said:

I'm not pissed. I just then noticed the thread title changed. Again, right now it is rumor and gossip that it is a hoax, until the PD come out and formally say either it was or wasn't, I'm not believing anything.

Should it be 'alleged hoax'?


Jusse WAS attacked, no question about it. If it was a 'real' attack is still to be determined. Jusse had a broken rib so he was harmed in the attack, real or not.


Someone said that Jusse still had his subway sandwich with him, Jusse said he never got a sandwich, it was a salad....see how things get twisted by these so called 'police anonymous sources'?

Knock knock ... Penny.

Knock knock ... Penny.

Knock knock ... Penny.

(sorry, couldn't resist lol )

Jussie himself confirmed he was never hospitalized, and he never had a broken rib. Medical reports have it as nothing more than a very mild bruised rib, which he could have easily inflicted himself.

And he himself has stated he got BOTH a salad and a tuna sub. See how the fake news has twisted things so much that you have all these wrong beliefs?

Here da link: https://www.gq.com/story/...m-not-weak

“I’m not going to go out and get a tuna sandwich and a salad to meet somebody. That’s ridiculous and it’s offensive.”

Comical how HE calls OTHERS "offensive", just like HE called HIS CRITICS "racist". Pot meet kettle.

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Reply #526 posted 02/18/19 5:21pm

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PennyPurple said:

If it is a hoax, then WTF was he thinking? His career would be ruined. And why would he go on Good Morning America for that interview? It would be very stupid of him.

I would say he was trying to prop himself up as an activist leader. Maybe he just thought he would get away with it. Speaking of the GMA appearance: if it is a hoax he is one messed up dude. He talking about how denying it happened is offensive to other victims. And then he said, "I will never be the man that this did not happen to..." (Well we will see I guess)


So which do you prefer?

1) it really happened?

2) he set it up?

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Reply #527 posted 02/18/19 5:23pm

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PennyPurple said:

Who is there? biggrin

I didn't see where Jusse confirmed that he wasn't in the hospital, nor the broken rib. Wasn't there a pic of him laying there with the scratch on his face? I presumed it to be a hospital bed. I never heard the part about the tuna sandwich either, just the salad.

What a friggin mess.

Wait? So you did not even take a few minutes to listen to the GMA interview?


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Reply #528 posted 02/18/19 5:27pm

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re-watching the GMA interview... and he was talking about the letter and he asks "Did I make that up too?"

huh... we shall see...

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Reply #529 posted 02/18/19 5:28pm

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PennyPurple said:

Who is there? biggrin

I didn't see where Jusse confirmed that he wasn't in the hospital, nor the broken rib. Wasn't there a pic of him laying there with the scratch on his face? I presumed it to be a hospital bed. I never heard the part about the tuna sandwich either, just the salad.

What a friggin mess.


Agreed, it's a mess.

You never watch Big Bang Theory? It's a classic!

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #530 posted 02/18/19 5:32pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

PennyPurple said:

Who is there? biggrin

I didn't see where Jusse confirmed that he wasn't in the hospital, nor the broken rib. Wasn't there a pic of him laying there with the scratch on his face? I presumed it to be a hospital bed. I never heard the part about the tuna sandwich either, just the salad.

What a friggin mess.


Agreed, it's a mess.

You never watch Big Bang Theory? It's a classic!

It's 1 of my faves.

Sorry I guess people don't get my humor. lol

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Reply #531 posted 02/18/19 5:53pm

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It's 1 of my faves.

Sorry I guess people don't get my humor. lol


No it's my fault, I blew it.

I should have responded with "It's Sheldon". lol

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #532 posted 02/18/19 9:08pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

PennyPurple said:

? if the 'you', you are referring to is me....I'm not the one who is, or wanting to take due process away from Jusse.

If the 'you', you are referring to is other peeps on this thread, then I agree. Again the PD has never confirmed that this is a hoax.....

I said, "There has never been any formal statement from the PD that this is a hoax. Nor has there been a formal statement from the PD that they think this is a hoax. "


Meaning it's only rumor and gossip at this point that it was a hoax.

Not directed at you, it was directed at all people who think Jussie must not be guilty just because the police haven't said he's guilty. The police cannot say what they are "thinking". They also must treat him as a victim for now, even if they have solid evidence against him. Robin Roberts said the same thing earlier, the police supported Jussie back then because they didn't want him to figure out what they were doing behind the scenes.

But I do have a question for you, Penny.

Why is it when the thread title erroneously stated (for approx 2 weeks) that Jussie was attacked, you didn't have a problem with it?

But now that Luv4U has done the right thing and changed it to "evidence suggests", which is 100% factual, you are pissed?

I'd appreciate an explanation.


Slightly off topic, but isn't this what the right is saying in regards to Trump and Mueller? That Mueller hasn't charged Trump yet, so he's innocent and there is no collusion?

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Reply #533 posted 02/18/19 10:27pm

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PennyPurple said:

If it is a hoax, then WTF was he thinking? His career would be ruined. And why would he go on Good Morning America for that interview? It would be very stupid of him.


That's what is perplexing - if he did orchestrate it, what was his intent in doing so?

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Reply #534 posted 02/19/19 12:56am

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benni said:

Slightly off topic, but isn't this what the right is saying in regards to Trump and Mueller? That Mueller hasn't charged Trump yet, so he's innocent and there is no collusion?


I haven't been following that particular case therefore I can't comment on it, but YES I've been saying all along Jussie is innocent until proven guilty. And right now there's a hella lotta evidence that proves he's guilty. He now refuses to cooperate and meet with police for questioning, which makes him look even more guilty. Just like the phone records that he kept from them. Real victims don't refuse to cooperate with police or try to hide shit.

And here is a MUST SEE video of my two civil rights leaders who absolutely express how the country feels right now. They vocalize their viewpoints and the viewpoints of the black and gay communities perfectly, I applaud them!

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #535 posted 02/19/19 3:29am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

PennyPurple said:

If it is a hoax, then WTF was he thinking? His career would be ruined. And why would he go on Good Morning America for that interview? It would be very stupid of him.


That's what is perplexing - if he did orchestrate it, what was his intent in doing so?

To catapult himself to the top of activism heap. To increase music sales/streams. Fame and glory. Money, money, money! Nothing perplexing... other than he thought he would get away with it!

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Reply #536 posted 02/19/19 5:23am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

PennyPurple said:

If it is a hoax, then WTF was he thinking? His career would be ruined. And why would he go on Good Morning America for that interview? It would be very stupid of him.


That's what is perplexing - if he did orchestrate it, what was his intent in doing so?

The only logical thing to me would be if he had some sort of mental health issue going on. Cause this lie could ruin his career, and I can't imagine that a healthy person would do it. He won't gain anything from this, if it was a lie.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #537 posted 02/19/19 6:27am

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DiminutiveRocker said:


That's what is perplexing - if he did orchestrate it, what was his intent in doing so?

The only logical thing to me would be if he had some sort of mental health issue going on. Cause this lie could ruin his career, and I can't imagine that a healthy person would do it. He won't gain anything from this, if it was a lie.


Maybe he has a new album coming out or something.

Remember he's a hollywood actor so evrything is about publicity and exposure.
Or maybe he really ws attacked, but to many sign point to hoax.

It's sad because this will hurt the cause for people who are real victims.

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Reply #538 posted 02/19/19 6:43am

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JorisE73 said:

It's sad because this will hurt the cause for people who are real victims.


Which is exactly why he should be held accountable to the greatest extent of the law. His greatest crime is that his lies make seeking justice harder for every real victim, and for that he should pay dearly.

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Reply #539 posted 02/19/19 7:04am

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TMZ is reporting that Jussie's role on Empire is being reduced.



https://www.tmz.com/2019/...ed-attack/




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Forums > Politics & Religion > Breaking: Jussie Smollett’s “Empire” Role Axed After ‘Attack’ Scandal, But It Gets Worse