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Reply #420 posted 02/17/19 5:32am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

The PD will not state something official until after they speak with Jussie. Do imagine they have something that made them believe the two Nigerian pacifist gentlemen are 100% innocent and victims to manipulation from the madman orchestrating this horrific hate crime. *phone records *payments *Airline tickets *Text messages For example.


Who would have thunk that little Jussie, reportedly 5'10" and 174 pounds, could fight off not one but TWO guys who look like below? They are bodybuilders, boxers and have worked as bodyguards/security. Yet Jussie somehow fought them both off, while holding his footlong (sandwich) and cell phone, and all he got was a little ole scratch ... and both the phone and sandwich were completely intact! Amazing!!!

Jussie isn't just the "Gay Tupac", he's also the "Gay Superman"!!!


"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #421 posted 02/17/19 5:33am

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If someone is going to hire a hitman they would hire two friends of the person they are trying to attack? Instruct them to do it at 2am in freezing weather in Chicago? lol. That would not make any sense, unless it is what it is a hoax.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #422 posted 02/17/19 5:43am

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Jussie’s lawyers coming out swinging in his defense: bitchfight coffee couch


So who are these ‘unnamed sources inside CPD leaking info on the case to the press, before CPD makes any ‘ confirmed’ statement with evidence proving the incident was staged? hmmm The plot thickens.

Although CPD put out a previous statement confirming the ‘trajectory of the case shifted’ based on what the 2 brothers told them, they have not yet confirmed with hard evidence that proves Jussie staged the incident. I think that is where some got confused.

We shall see how CPD responds to Jussie’s attorneys and what evidence they can present to Jussie’s attorneys, that shows the incident was staged by Jussie. Patience until the investigation is complete. popcorn

https://www.google.com/ur...6698134407


Jussie Smollett’s Lawyers Say ‘Empire’ Star Didn’t Play “Role In His Own Attack”
Dominic Patten
February 16, 2019 8:16PM PST


“BREAKING… As Chicago police declare a significant shift in “the trajectory of the investigation” of the alleged attack on Jussie Smollett nearly three weeks ago, the attorneys for the Empire star has come out swinging tonight in his defense.”

(Edited for compliance)

READ FULL STATEMENT FROM JUSSIE’S ATTORNEYS:


“As a victim of a hate crime who has cooperated with the police investigation, Jussie Smollett is angered and devastated by recent reports that the perpetrators are individuals he is familiar with. He has now been further victimized by claims attributed to these alleged perpetrators that Jussie played a role in his own attack. Nothing is further from the truth and anyone claiming otherwise is lying.

One of these purported suspects was Jussie’s personal trainer who he hired to ready him physically for a music video. It is impossible to believe that this person could have played a role in the crime against Jussie or would falsely claim Jussie’s complicity.

Jussie and his attorneys anticipate being further updated by the Chicago Police Department on the status of the investigation and will continue to cooperate. At the present time, Jussie and his attorneys have no inclination to respond to “unnamed” sources inside of the investigation, but will continue discussions through official channels.”

[Edited 2/17/19 9:19am]
Rest in Power Elijah Cummings. Thank you for your fight for human rights/justice. Your legacy will never die in vain.
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Reply #423 posted 02/17/19 5:54am

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2elijah said:

Jussie’s lawyers coming out swinging in his defense: bitchfight coffee couch https://www.google.com/ur...6698134407 Jussie Smollett’s Lawyers Say ‘Empire’ Star Didn’t Play “Role In His Own Attack” Dominic Patten February 16, 2019 8:16PM PST BREAKING… As Chicago police declare a significant shift in “the trajectory of the investigation” of the alleged attack on Jussie Smollett nearly three weeks ago, the attorneys for the Empire star has come out swinging tonight in his defense. READ FULL STATEMENT FROM JUSDIE!S ATTORNEYS: “As a victim of a hate crime who has cooperated with the police investigation, Jussie Smollett is angered and devastated by recent reports that the perpetrators are individuals he is familiar with. He has now been further victimized by claims attributed to these alleged perpetrators that Jussie played a role in his own attack. Nothing is further from the truth and anyone claiming otherwise is lying. One of these purported suspects was Jussie’s personal trainer who he hired to ready him physically for a music video. It is impossible to believe that this person could have played a role in the crime against Jussie or would falsely claim Jussie’s complicity. Jussie and his attorneys anticipate being further updated by the Chicago Police Department on the status of the investigation and will continue to cooperate. At the present time, Jussie and his attorneys have no inclination to respond to “unnamed” sources inside of the investigation, but will continue discussions through official channels.” [Edited 2/17/19 5:45am]

Only problem is the men he paid to attack him were LGBT, Obama fans that didn't like Trump or MAGA. Explain that one to the defense?

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #424 posted 02/17/19 6:07am

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[Off topic snip - luv4u]

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #425 posted 02/17/19 7:10am

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Weird how most of these people who said they KNEW that this was a hate crime seem to have vanished?


Oh, now we have to wait for evidence? Not just someone's word! And I agree... and the people here have been very measured in how they are approaching this turn of events...

And As I Said! it sure seems to be a Trump inspired hate crime! Jussie hates Trump and has some race-based issues.


as to what he has to gain? MAYBE He was trying to position himself as a leader... it seems to be a PR stunt!

as to denials and him being mad! LOL of course he is!

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Reply #426 posted 02/17/19 7:14am

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this seemingly has ended the only way it plausibly could have.
from the very beginning, the story told was inconsistent & incoherent, & i am sad but not the least bit surprised that it was believed without skepticism by so many.

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Reply #427 posted 02/17/19 7:30am

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damosuzuki said:

this seemingly has ended the only way it plausibly could have.
from the very beginning, the story told was inconsistent & incoherent, & i am sad but not the least bit surprised that it was believed without skepticism by so many.

And It makes me MAD! I was so on his side... I was saying people react to traumatic events in different ways. They may not remember every detail at first... and some will shut down some will rise up!

I am sure a person who is a celebrity would have to consider reporting on something like this... thus some delay... take some time to consider and process it...

some said he could not have performed so soon... but pain can be managed...


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Reply #428 posted 02/17/19 7:55am

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The Jussie hoax is not about him. It's about the left creating fake hate to fit the need for enemies. Victim culture needs grievances so they can use state power to fix, Activists and media pounce.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #429 posted 02/17/19 8:17am

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It still bothers me.

It still makes no sense as a hoax.

Why go on GMA to refute claims that could blow up in your face?

The conspiracy theorists deep down inside of me is wondering illuminati humiliation ritual? lol

Aside for all that I'm devastated.

I really like Jussie Smollett and he really seems genuine to me.

One thing I'm also making strides with is validation approval, but this case is setting me back, because it still creeps up in my mind that this is a bad look for black america.

This could be what pushes me off media for good.

My fragile emotions can't take it.

And I'm not even involved.

Go figure.

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Reply #430 posted 02/17/19 8:29am

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CynicKill said:

It still bothers me.

It still makes no sense as a hoax.

Why go on GMA to refute claims that could blow up in your face?

The conspiracy theorists deep down inside of me is wondering illuminati humiliation ritual? lol

Aside for all that I'm devastated.

I really like Jussie Smollett and he really seems genuine to me.

One thing I'm also making strides with is validation approval, but this case is setting me back, because it still creeps up in my mind that this is a bad look for black america.

This could be what pushes me off media for good.

My fragile emotions can't take it.

And I'm not even involved.

Go figure.

he went on GMA for the same reason he did his concert and the same reason he MAY have set this attack up... to prop him up as a leader and an icon of Black Gay Men... And I absolutely am 100% for Black Gay Men being treated fairly!


Now I did say I saw some red flags on his GMA interview. Some eye movements are consistent with deception...but also of being uncomfortable.

He said that he never said they had MAGA hats on... that he did not need a 'cherry' on top... which was again something that people who are not being honest do... they will reject ideas that would seem to help their believability.

One thing that was weird was the claim of one of them saying "Maga" as a word, but again the fact that some of it did not make sense and that some of it was a little off... in a weird way can help his believability. (that is if they wanted to make it believable they could have had it all down pat)

But anyway: as we learn more, and I think we will see they have plenty of evidence that he set it all up... and if that is the case... (and I want the Feds to look into this as a federal crime) the real victims are the gay men...especially gay black men... who are victimised who will have a more difficult time proving their case.

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Reply #431 posted 02/17/19 8:34am

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http://m.tmz.com/#!2019/0...hers-rope/


TMZ

JUSSIE SMOLLETT NOT OFFICIALLY 'SUSPECT'... POLICE SOURCES SAY OTHERWISE


2/17/19 8:03 AM PST

Jussie Smollett is not officially a suspect in the Chicago PD investigation, despite multiple sources inside the department who tell us he is squarely just that.

We reached out to Chi PD and asked if the status of the "Empire" star has officially gone from victim to suspect. We were told ... "We have some information that needs to be corroborated and verified with the Empire cast member before we can answer this question. After new developments, we've reached out to his attorney and requested additional time to interview him."

It actually makes sense ... the cops are playing the case close to the vest, so witnesses aren't influenced by police statements. As we reported, there was a sentiment early on in the Department Jussie's story didn't track, but officially they never let on.



As we reported, the 2 brothers with connections to both "Empire" and Jussie "completely cooperated" with cops during their interrogation, and they made it clear ... their participation was at the behest of Jussie.

Jussie's lawyer has indirectly lashed out at the brothers, doubling down that Jussie is a victim and "anyone claiming otherwise is lying."

As we reported, at least one of the brothers turned over his phone to cops and there's a call between him and Jussie in the vicinity of the "attack," but before it happened.

There are multiple reports the brothers bought the rope in question at an Ace Hardware store in Chicago.

We're told so far ... Jussie has not agreed to another interview with cops.
[Edited 2/17/19 9:13am]
Rest in Power Elijah Cummings. Thank you for your fight for human rights/justice. Your legacy will never die in vain.
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Reply #432 posted 02/17/19 8:37am

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CynicKill said:

It still bothers me.

It still makes no sense as a hoax.

Why go on GMA to refute claims that could blow up in your face?

The conspiracy theorists deep down inside of me is wondering illuminati humiliation ritual? lol

Aside for all that I'm devastated.

I really like Jussie Smollett and he really seems genuine to me.

One thing I'm also making strides with is validation approval, but this case is setting me back, because it still creeps up in my mind that this is a bad look for black america.

This could be what pushes me off media for good.

My fragile emotions can't take it.

And I'm not even involved.

Go figure.


My friend, this is precisely why you shouldn't look at celebrities as role models. You shouldn't assume any of them are truly "good guys". They are ACTORS who are very, very good at selling a positive image. At the height of Mel Gibson's fame, did anybody think he was an a-hole? Nope. How about Bill Cosby? Who on this planet thought he was a sexual predator???

Don't ever be fooled by a celebrity's public persona. I know lots of gay men found Jussie to be very attractive and that was appealing to them, and sure he has some talent, but looks and talent is no reason to think a celebrity is all that.

The signs were all there even before the "attack", how could you miss them? His social media comments were deplorable, disgusting, reprehensible and highly disturbing. You probably didn't care because they were not aimed at you, but that shouldn't matter.

After Jussie is convicted and sentenced, please don't go down the same path as people did with Hot Mugshot Guy. When all is said and done, and the Chicago PD closes the case and Jussie is convicted of something, he will deserve to be labeled as one of the biggest a-holes on the planet.

And I think Jussie will be popular in prison if he does time. Very, very popular. wink

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #433 posted 02/17/19 8:47am

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Covington Catholic... Jussie Smollett...

Are we ready to stop trusting the media?
Are we ready to hold them accountable?

Probably not.

REEFER MADNESS!
Joe Biden still thinks marijuana is a gateway drug:
https://www.businessinsid...t-2019-11/
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Reply #434 posted 02/17/19 8:51am

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damosuzuki said:

this seemingly has ended the only way it plausibly could have.
from the very beginning, the story told was inconsistent & incoherent, & i am sad but not the least bit surprised that it was believed without skepticism by so many.



For that very reason and the sensitivity of all the issues involved, there was no way I was comment on this story until the dust had settled.

Everyone, the media, the general population is stuck in a knee-jerky mode for various reasons that feed their needs, entertainment, outrage as entertainment, click bait, political bias, confirmation bias, ratings...

It’s a bananas era were are living in. Hopefully this is just a stage in our media age that people outgrow into post stunted adolescence.
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Reply #435 posted 02/17/19 8:56am

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2elijah said:

http://m.tmz.com/#!2019/0...hers-rope/ TMZ JUSSIE SMOLLETT NOT OFFICIALLY 'SUSPECT'... POLICE SOURCES SAY OTHERWISE 2/17/19 8:03 AM PST 82Jussie Smollett is not officially a suspect in the Chicago PD investigation, despite multiple sources inside the department who tell us he is squarely just that. We reached out to Chi PD and asked if the status of the "Empire" star has officially gone from victim to suspect. We were told ... "We have some information that needs to be corroborated and verified with the Empire cast member before we can answer this question. After new developments, we've reached out to his attorney and requested additional time to interview him." It actually makes sense ... the cops are playing the case close to the vest, so witnesses aren't influenced by police statements. As we reported, there was a sentiment early on in the Department Jussie's story didn't track, but officially they never let on. As we reported, the 2 brothers with connections to both "Empire" and Jussie "completely cooperated" with cops during their interrogation, and they made it clear ... their participation was at the behest of Jussie. Jussie's lawyer has indirectly lashed out at the brothers, doubling down that Jussie is a victim and "anyone claiming otherwise is lying." As we reported, at least one of the brothers turned over his phone to cops and there's a call between him and Jussie in the vicinity of the "attack," but before it happened. There are multiple reports the brothers bought the rope in question at an Ace Hardware store in Chicago. We're told so far ... Jussie has not agreed to another interview with cops. [Edited 2/17/19 8:47am]

yeah and? they can not say he is officially one for now. That is normal protocol. They can not officially name him.

Now is it possible he is actually a victim? Sure... it is... but that is now how it is looking now.


What I am going to say to you is why do you now all of a sudden want more than someone's word? Didn't you claim to it was Definitely a hate crime? Didn't you choose to take Him at his word?

Which of these 2 do you HOPE is true?

1) he set it up?

2) it happened pretty much as he said?

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Reply #436 posted 02/17/19 9:03am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

damosuzuki said:

this seemingly has ended the only way it plausibly could have.
from the very beginning, the story told was inconsistent & incoherent, & i am sad but not the least bit surprised that it was believed without skepticism by so many.

For that very reason and the sensitivity of all the issues involved, there was no way I was comment on this story until the dust had settled. Everyone, the media, the general population is stuck in a knee-jerky mode for various reasons that feed their needs, entertainment, outrage as entertainment, click bait, political bias, confirmation bias, ratings... It’s a bananas era were are living in. Hopefully this is just a stage in our media age that people outgrow into post stunted adolescence.

first, have to done anything with the websites? KneeJerky is pretty brilliant and had big potential. Maybe set up a vBulletin on one and have the others just redirect?



but anyway we all want justice. Even if there is some pain. If he set it up he needs to be held accountable. (and I am still thinking this is a federal crime)

if it is real... I hope the ones that did it are caught!

And I will ask you the same...which do you want to be true?

1) that he set it up
2) he is telling the truth

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Reply #437 posted 02/17/19 9:04am

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djThunderfunk said:

Covington Catholic... Jussie Smollett...

Are we ready to stop trusting the media?
Are we ready to hold them accountable?

Probably not.


My friend, you bring up an excellent subject which deserves an in-depth discussion.

This morning I was watching CNN and one of the panelists is a reporter who said ten years ago if she had submitted one of the stories that came out right after the "attack", her editor would have immediately rejected it and told her to do more investigating and verifying and wait until she has some facts.

She said today's media doesn't care about accuracy, all they care about is grabbing the headlines and being the first to report something. Then over time as the facts come out, they simply update the story (although not always).

My question, why isn't there some sort of government body - similar to the FCC and FDA - that oversees what the media publishes and ensures the reporting is responsible and accurate?

The media is CONTRIBUTING to violence by inciting anger and hatred among the ignorant. You mention Covington, look at all the death threats they received because of fake news reports!

Last time I checked, there are crimes for things such as "Inciting A Riot".

Why isn't there a crime for "Inciting a race war" or "Inciting a political war" which the media clearly does when they falsely report on two of their favorite subjects - race and politics?

How many more "Hands up, don't shoot" inflammatory bullshit gimmicks does the media need to pull before they are finally held legally accountable?

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #438 posted 02/17/19 9:13am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:


damosuzuki said:

this seemingly has ended the only way it plausibly could have.
from the very beginning, the story told was inconsistent & incoherent, & i am sad but not the least bit surprised that it was believed without skepticism by so many.



For that very reason and the sensitivity of all the issues involved, there was no way I was comment on this story until the dust had settled. Everyone, the media, the general population is stuck in a knee-jerky mode for various reasons that feed their needs, entertainment, outrage as entertainment, click bait, political bias, confirmation bias, ratings... It’s a bananas era were are living in. Hopefully this is just a stage in our media age that people outgrow into post stunted adolescence.



first, have to done anything with the websites? KneeJerky is pretty brilliant and had big potential. Maybe set up a vBulletin on one and have the others just redirect?



but anyway we all want justice. Even if there is some pain. If he set it up he needs to be held accountable. (and I am still thinking this is a federal crime)

if it is real... I hope the ones that did it are caught!

And I will ask you the same...which do you want to be true?


1) that he set it up
2) he is telling the truth




On the idea of the site, i went i got the wordpress name, Instagram kept getting stuck in registering it, but I don’t even know how to proceed with it because it could just devolve into the very thing i am talking about. Imagine!
When I started thinking about the format it immediately hit me how big the problem is and how anything no matter how well-intentions got devolve into another pit of hell website.
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Reply #439 posted 02/17/19 9:15am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

yeah and? they can not say he is officially one for now. That is normal protocol. They can not officially name him.


It's amazing how some people are totally clueless when it comes to police protocol, isn't it?

The police got key information and evidence from the brothers, and probably even more that they haven't mentioned yet as they would be foolish to show all their cards at this point.

So now they are reaching out to Jussie, giving him an opportunity to respond to information and evidence the police recently received. They won't label Jussie a suspect without giving him that opportunity to respond. He deserves an opportunity to respond.

Of course, he has yet to agree to respond. Probably because him and his lawyers need more time to figure out what the hell they should say.

At the very least, his lawyers will wind up sucking him dry (financially).


"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #440 posted 02/17/19 9:40am

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Another article, but Page Six has not revealed or confirmed who their ‘sources of information’ are, and their details of what they are reporting, has not been officially confirmed by CPD or Jussie’s attorneys, so take it for what you want, but remember that the only and final confirmation of this investigation, will come from reliable sources like CPD if they have positive evidence or from Jussie’s lawyers. It can go either way. To suggest is to imply, but not factual.

Right now everything is still gossip, hearsay, rumors and others with their own conspiracy theories, who are ‘not reliable sources.’




https://www.google.com/ur...1195345939


Jussie Smollett, pals reportedly rehearsed alleged attack
By Lia Eustachewich

February 17, 2019 | 9:58am



“Jussie Smollett allegedly promised to pay his two pals $4,000 to stage his racist and homophobic assault — which the trio even rehearsed beforehand, according to a new report.

The embattled “Empire” star paid $3,500 to bodybuilding brothers Abimbola and Olabinjo Osundairo before they left for Nigeria the day of the Jan. 29 attack, and promised another $500 upon their return to the US, sources told CBS Chicago.

The brothers told cops that the alleged attack in Chicago was supposed to happen before Jan. 29 and that they practiced it in the days before it happened.

Smollett, 36, also allegedly paid for the rope, which was purchased from the Crafty Beaver Hardware Store in the Ravenswood neighborhood the weekend of Jan. 25.

Sources said one of the brothers held the rope and poured bleach on Smollett during the 2 a.m. attack, while the other donned a red hat and shouted racist and homophobic slurs at him.

The red hat was bought at an Uptown beauty supply store.

Smollett has claimed his two attackers called him a “f—t,” “n—r” and yelled “This is MAGA country!” before throwing a noose around his neck and dousing him in an unknown “chemical substance.”

The Osundairo brothers were arrested Wednesday, the same day they returned from Nigeria, and identified as suspects — but then released Friday without charges.

They are cooperating in the investigation and holed up at an undisclosed location.

Cops have said the pair of budding model-actors have a “relationship” with Smollett and worked on his hit TV show on Fox.

Smollett’s attorneys Todd Pugh and Victor Henderson released a statement late Saturday, saying the actor is “angered and devastated” by claims he staged the attack, according to ABC Chicago.”

(Click link to continue reading)
[Edited 2/17/19 11:08am]
Rest in Power Elijah Cummings. Thank you for your fight for human rights/justice. Your legacy will never die in vain.
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Reply #441 posted 02/17/19 10:12am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

he went on GMA for the same reason he did his concert and the same reason he MAY have set this attack up... to prop him up as a leader and an icon of Black Gay Men... And I absolutely am 100% for Black Gay Men being treated fairly!

(and I want the Feds to look into this as a federal crime) the real victims are the gay men...especially gay black men... who are victimised who will have a more difficult time proving their case.


Exactly!

Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz. lol

I have been a fan of Gay Black Men going all the way back to Johnny Mathis (famous singer), Billy Strayhorn (composer) and Little Richard (singer/musician). I would love to hear what Johnny and Richard think of Jussie now.

Rest assured, the feds are looking into the "death threat" letter that allegedly was sent to Jussie. If it's determined he was behind that too, he'll pay the price.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #442 posted 02/17/19 10:25am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

The Jussie hoax is not about him. It's about the left creating fake hate to fit the need for enemies. Victim culture needs grievances so they can use state power to fix, Activists and media pounce.

Isn't this how Trump and his supporters operate to build a wall? Creating Fake news, enemies, and scare the hell out of the people, so they say yes to a wall nobody needs?

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #443 posted 02/17/19 10:29am

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When LE were questioning the Nigerian brothers they leaked they had two other potential suspects. Could that be Jussie and his manager?
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #444 posted 02/17/19 10:34am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Isn't this how Trump and his supporters operate to build a wall? Creating Fake news, enemies, and scare the hell out of the people, so they say yes to a wall nobody needs?


Dude, where's your car? Oh it was stolen by an illegal who had already been deported 8 times. lol

Seriously though, let's stay on topic here. There's already another thread or two about The Wall.

Furry was talking about the hatred Jussie created.

The Wall has nothing to do with hatred, is has to do with keeping other countries' criminals out of America.

Now back on topic please. neutral

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #445 posted 02/17/19 10:36am

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Pokeno4Money said:

djThunderfunk said:

Covington Catholic... Jussie Smollett...

Are we ready to stop trusting the media?
Are we ready to hold them accountable?

Probably not.


My friend, you bring up an excellent subject which deserves an in-depth discussion.

This morning I was watching CNN and one of the panelists is a reporter who said ten years ago if she had submitted one of the stories that came out right after the "attack", her editor would have immediately rejected it and told her to do more investigating and verifying and wait until she has some facts.

She said today's media doesn't care about accuracy, all they care about is grabbing the headlines and being the first to report something. Then over time as the facts come out, they simply update the story (although not always).

My question, why isn't there some sort of government body - similar to the FCC and FDA - that oversees what the media publishes and ensures the reporting is responsible and accurate?

The media is CONTRIBUTING to violence by inciting anger and hatred among the ignorant. You mention Covington, look at all the death threats they received because of fake news reports!

Last time I checked, there are crimes for things such as "Inciting A Riot".

Why isn't there a crime for "Inciting a race war" or "Inciting a political war" which the media clearly does when they falsely report on two of their favorite subjects - race and politics?

How many more "Hands up, don't shoot" inflammatory bullshit gimmicks does the media need to pull before they are finally held legally accountable?


For that matter, how is it any different that what Alex Jones is being sued for and was deplatformed for? They say his reporting that questioned Sandy Hook caused people to harass the families. If that is bad then so is every report about Covington Catholic that caused people to harass those kids and their familes.

Because the media has to compete with the internet they have to rely on clicks. What gets clicks? Stories that rile people up about the trumpclown or people that wear maga gear gets clicks for sure. They don't even have to worry about truth, they can do corrections later (or not), all that matters is the clicks. Clicks = $.

So we get "journalists" whose goal is to be first rather than be accurate.



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Reply #446 posted 02/17/19 10:42am

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Isn't this how Trump and his supporters operate to build a wall? Creating Fake news, enemies, and scare the hell out of the people, so they say yes to a wall nobody needs?


Dude, where's your car? Oh it was stolen by an illegal who had already been deported 8 times. lol

Seriously though, let's stay on topic here. There's already another thread or two about The Wall.

Furry was talking about the hatred Jussie created.

The Wall has nothing to do with hatred, is has to do with keeping other countries' criminals out of America.

Now back on topic please. neutral

I was just pointing out Furry's hypocrisy, that's all.

Also, one last thing to the wall: A man who hates brown and black people wants to build this wall to keep them out, so yes, the wall has something to the with hatred towards other people.

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Reply #447 posted 02/17/19 10:53am

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Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated attack

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Chicago (CNN)Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation tell CNN that Chicago Police believe actor Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate an assault on him that he reported late last month.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/...Jf1A18oSk4

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Reply #448 posted 02/17/19 11:04am

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When LE were questioning the Nigerian brothers they leaked they had two other potential suspects. Could that be Jussie and his manager?


This is an excellent point, one I had not thought about.

I'm of the belief the two brothers shouldn't be charged with being accomplices. They cooperated truthfully with police, unlike Jussie, and they provided key evidence that seems to have cracked the case wide open. The money they already received from Jussie should be easily traced, even if it was likely in cash.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #449 posted 02/17/19 11:58am

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Jussie will probably do little time or community service if this is proven a hoax. He may even become more famous. People will rally around him that the PD have a conspiracy outta get him.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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