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Reply #360 posted 02/16/19 12:07am

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So if Jussie is proven to have lied, what will the fallout be like for the self-proclaimed "Gay Tupac"?

As a high profile representative of so many (democrats, gay community, celebrity community, black community, Empire show, Fox, hate crime victims, etc) will he be shunned and vilified for disgracing the groups he represented?

Will he serve time in prison, or get off easy due to his many privileges?

Will he be forced to reimburse the city of Chicago for the enormous amount of resources wasted on his false accusations?

Will he attempt to harm or kill himself, as other disgraced accusers have done in the past?

One thing we'll probably never know, if the Empire folks really had planned to write him off the show. Will he still have a job if he ends up serving little or no prison time?

And how about all the ignorant folks who immediately jumped to the conclusion that he was completely telling the truth? Will they apologize? Will they acknowledge that race and political affiliation was a motive for them automatically believing that white Trump supporters were responsible for such a horrific alleged attack? If Jussie was a straight white heterosexual male who had claimed the alleged "suspects" were Nigerians (which they were) and screamed "This is Obama country" (which Chicago is) would those same ignorant people have rushed to the conclusion that it really did happen?

Sadly, I think we already know the answers to many of these questions. neutral

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #361 posted 02/16/19 4:46am

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https://www.google.com/ur...6783263262

Empire' Cast and Crew

BROTHERS NOT RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC OR PRO-TRUMP

“The 2 men who were arrested, then released Friday night, in the Jussie Smollett case are pro-LGBTQ and anti-Trump, which has people on the "Empire" set scratching their heads.

We've spoken with "Empire" cast and crew, and they say Ola and Abel Osundairo do not fit the profile of racists and homophobes -- not even close. As we reported, both men have been extras on "Empire" for years and both are friendly with Jussie, and Abel is especially close to him. We're told Jussie would frequently approach the brothers on set and chat about health and fitness.

[Our Empire sources say Abel especially is an ally of the LGBTQ community, and neither have ever said anything positive about Trump. They're both big Obama fans.


We're told Abel worked as an "Empire" extra as recently as a month ago. They're considered family on the set ... well-known and well-liked by cast and crew.

The folks we've spoken with say they find it impossible to believe Ola and Abel have the DNA of criminals who would carry out the acts that Jussie describes -- and obviously cops now believe that as well.

Police arrested the brothers for battery Friday after cops raided their home Wednesday and seized a long list of items, including several bottles of bleach. However, late Friday Chicago PD released the brothers due to "new evidence" gathered from their interrogation ... and said they're no longer suspects.


As we reported, Jussie initially said his attackers were white -- yet another fact that just doesn't track with the Osundairos profile.”


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Sidenote: TMZ needs to clarify their evidence where they claim Jussie told them the race of his attackers, because during the Robin Roberts interview, and police interview, he never gave the race of his attackers. Some folks took what he said and twisted it to their satisfaction and agenda. Some may need to work on their reading comprehension skills.

Many of his critics, who were trump supporters, went after him because he said one of the attackers yelled “This is MAGA country n****r”. So some trump supporters took that and made their assumptions that Jussie claimed the attackers were possibly White/trump supporters, based on what Jussie said of the attackers comments. Keep in mind, if Jussie saw their faces, the cops would not have went after the 2 brothers who were Black, if Jussie said the attackers were White. That’s just plain common sense folks.

Jussie was apparently hoping the men in the vid, were the attackers, because of the lack of video in the area showing evidence of the attack, and that was the only camera showing anyone in proximity of the incident that night.

Jussie’s been called a liar, and continued to be accused that his incident is a hoax. Jussie stated in the interview, that a lot of the doubt of the incident came from trump/MAGA supporters, and that’s what made him angry, because they had no empathy regarding his attack and assumed he lied about it, yet no confirmation of the attackers’ race was made by Jussie or CPD.


He said he didn’t see his attackers faces because they wore masks. It was early news reports who stated the race of the attackers, without confirmation from Jussie or police. Another thing, if the lab testing of the bottle found didn’t match the dna results of the brothers, then that could be another reason they were released, besides what the police obtained from the interrogation.

So until Jussie and the CPD confirms who the actual suspects are, and CPD releases more evidence to the investigation, everything else is just going to be ‘gossip, assumptions, hearsay and rumors’ from many within the social media community.

We shall see what the 2 brothers’ attorney have to say about their arrest/release, and also what Jussie Smollett’s attorney will say about the case and search for the suspects.
[Edited 2/16/19 6:43am]
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Reply #362 posted 02/16/19 5:24am

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The two Nigerians would not have needed to know about staged incident. They just would have had to be at right place at wrong time on camera. Catch my drift? So if they are in fact two caught on camera and were only men caught on camera in area, if they had communications on electronic devices. It would be suspicious but keep with they didn't need to necessarily know of a staged event.
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Reply #363 posted 02/16/19 5:47am

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Time for a quick summary for those who haven't been following the story:

According to multiple news outlets, Jussie claimed the alleged attackers were white.

In an interview with Good Morning America, Jussie CONFIRMED his alleged attackers were white when he specifically said: "And it feels like if I had said it was a Muslim, or a Mexican, or someone black, I feel like the doubters would have supported me much more. A lot more."

Then when the photograph of the alleged attackers was revealed, Jussie CONFIRMED the two men in the photograph were the suspects by saying "“I was there. For me, when that was released I was like ‘Okay we’re getting somewhere,'” he said. “You know what I’m saying? I don’t have any doubt in my mind that that’s them.”


Then, the Chicago Police CONFIRMED the two Nigerians arrested were the same two men from the photograph that Jussie is certain are the alleged attackers.

I will again summarize for those who have difficulty comprehending:


Jussie insists the two men from the photograph are the alleged attackers.
The police insist the two Nigerians arrested are the men from the photograph.
Jussie insists the two men from the photograph are the attackers and are white.
But the two men from the photograph are the Nigerians who are anything but white.

Therefore, Jussie is a racist who FLAT OUT LIED because he wanted to portray himself as a victim of "evil white racist homophobic Trump supporting men" (nothing new these days, I know).


Sources:
https://www.newsweek.com/jussie-smollett-donald-trump-maga-racist-sundae-cherry-1331694
https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/15/jussie-smollett-race-black-white-nigerian-attack/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jussie-smollett-said-attackers-were-white-but-the-two-suspects-are-black
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jussie-smollett-in-first-tv-interview-youd-believe-me-if-i-said-attackers-were-black




"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #364 posted 02/16/19 5:50am

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He handed over his edited call log to police and they got entire log from service provider.
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Reply #365 posted 02/16/19 6:07am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

He handed over his edited call log to police and they got entire log from service provider.


The "Gay Tupac" was smart to hire a high profile lawyer, he'll need it. Law enforcement is sick and tired of all these hate crime accusations that have been proven false.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #366 posted 02/16/19 6:26am

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Pokeno4Money said:

Time for a quick summary for those who haven't been following the story:

According to multiple news outlets, Jussie claimed the alleged attackers were white.

In an interview with Good Morning America, Jussie CONFIRMED his alleged attackers were white when he specifically said: "And it feels like if I had said it was a Muslim, or a Mexican, or someone black, I feel like the doubters would have supported me much more. A lot more."

Then when the photograph of the alleged attackers was revealed, Jussie CONFIRMED the two men in the photograph were the suspects by saying "“I was there. For me, when that was released I was like ‘Okay we’re getting somewhere,'” he said. “You know what I’m saying? I don’t have any doubt in my mind that that’s them.”


Then, the Chicago Police CONFIRMED the two Nigerians arrested were the same two men from the photograph that Jussie is certain are the alleged attackers.

I will again summarize for those who have difficulty comprehending:


Jussie insists the two men from the photograph are the alleged attackers.
The police insist the two Nigerians arrested are the men from the photograph.
Jussie insists the two men from the photograph are the attackers and are white.
But the two men from the photograph are the Nigerians who are anything but white.

Therefore, Jussie is a racist who FLAT OUT LIED because he wanted to portray himself as a victim of "evil white racist homophobic Trump supporting men" (nothing new these days, I know).


Sources:
https://www.newsweek.com/jussie-smollett-donald-trump-maga-racist-sundae-cherry-1331694
https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/15/jussie-smollett-race-black-white-nigerian-attack/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jussie-smollett-said-attackers-were-white-but-the-two-suspects-are-black
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jussie-smollett-in-first-tv-interview-youd-believe-me-if-i-said-attackers-were-black




I don't know even in the interview he never said the attackers were white. He just said if he said they were something else people would support him more.

Remember Jussie said they had on masks. How could he see if they were white, unless they had on ski masks and their lips were showing?

Or the unscientific method of voice recognition, which can be reliable most of the time.

But the masks thing always jumped out at me.

Or I could be reading it all wrong which wouldn't be surprising in this case.

But I personally hope it's not a lie not because of some Trump hate, but because he said it happened and he seems sincere.

At this point I'm just waiting and seeing.

I have no personal stake in being the first or thousandth to be right about him lying. I'm not on that side of the fence.

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Reply #367 posted 02/16/19 6:49am

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CynicKill said:

I don't know even in the interview he never said the attackers were white. He just said if he said they were something else people would support him more.

Remember Jussie said they had on masks. How could he see if they were white, unless they had on ski masks and their lips were showing?

Or the unscientific method of voice recognition, which can be reliable most of the time.

But the masks thing always jumped out at me.

Or I could be reading it all wrong which wouldn't be surprising in this case.

But I personally hope it's not a lie not because of some Trump hate, but because he said it happened and he seems sincere.

At this point I'm just waiting and seeing.

I have no personal stake in being the first or thousandth to be right about him lying. I'm not on that side of the fence.


The picture he painted of the alleged attackers made it sound very much like they were white. I have to believe he said they were white based on all the sources, and of course the Good Morning America interview was confirmation he said they were white.

Like you said, assuming they were ALL bundled up in -9 temperatures with wind chills of -40, how would he know what race the alleged attackers were? And for that matter, how would the attackers have been able to recognize Jussie? More holes in his story than swiss cheese. lol

Waiting and seeing is a good approach, innocent until proven guilty always.

I'm on the side of truth and justice, that's all I want. I can't stand people who make shit up, especially when it has such a huge impact on others. It goes on way too often, and needs to stop. If he's proven to have lied about the attack happening at all, he needs to be held accountable. He needs to pay back every dime spent on this case, and he needs to do serious jail time. The money part probably won't be an issue, as I'm sure Soros or other prominent democrats/groups/celebrities will step in to help with that.

I mean there are damn fools who still insist Jussie was attacked, despite zero evidence and a mountain of doubt based on facts and logic. That's what this country has come to ... and it's sad. neutral

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #368 posted 02/16/19 7:04am

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The very fact that these 2 guys were there and seen in the photo... and that Jussie said it was them... and they all 3 knew each other... and the 2 left the country... That Jussie refused to give up his phone which could have had evidence on it... It is very reasonable to see this as a possible hoax.

What is odd is how some that believed him seem to prefer that it not be made up... they prefer him to be a victim of a trump inspired race-based. homophobic hate crime...(maybe they hate trump more than they care about victims)

And the list of odd occurrences goes on and on...

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Reply #369 posted 02/16/19 7:05am

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And I it is possible they knew where the cameras were... I have seen some of those same kinds of cameras and you can see the camera and where it points.

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Reply #370 posted 02/16/19 7:07am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

He handed over his edited call log to police and they got entire log from service provider.

they also need the detailed data info and a list of all apps and their data... they could have used a free text app... or call apps... those would show as data but not necessarily what was sent or to what device it was sent.

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Reply #371 posted 02/16/19 7:19am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

He handed over his edited call log to police and they got entire log from service provider.

they also need the detailed data info and a list of all apps and their data... they could have used a free text app... or call apps... those would show as data but not necessarily what was sent or to what device it was sent.

He who dealt it, Smollett, The entire case is adding up to a hoax. Hopefully, we see arrest and charges early next week.

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Reply #372 posted 02/16/19 7:25am

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The very fact that these 2 guys were there and seen in the photo... and that Jussie said it was them... and they all 3 knew each other... and the 2 left the country... That Jussie refused to give up his phone which could have had evidence on it... It is very reasonable to see this as a possible hoax.

What is odd is how some that believed him seem to prefer that it not be made up... they prefer him to be a victim of a trump inspired race-based. homophobic hate crime...(maybe they hate trump more than they care about victims)

And the list of odd occurrences goes on and on...

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Oh please.

This thing is way beyond caring about victims or Trump.

It's a media circus!

If he isn't being truthful then it really will be tragic.

As a gay, black male he's already at the bottom of the heap societally. This will add fuel to the fire for those who care about such things.

Everyone else will be fine, particularly Trump.

Nothing sticks to him.

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Reply #373 posted 02/16/19 7:54am

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CynicKill said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

The very fact that these 2 guys were there and seen in the photo... and that Jussie said it was them... and they all 3 knew each other... and the 2 left the country... That Jussie refused to give up his phone which could have had evidence on it... It is very reasonable to see this as a possible hoax.

What is odd is how some that believed him seem to prefer that it not be made up... they prefer him to be a victim of a trump inspired race-based. homophobic hate crime...(maybe they hate trump more than they care about victims)

And the list of odd occurrences goes on and on...

>

Oh please.

This thing is way beyond caring about victims or Trump.

It's a media circus!

If he isn't being truthful then it really will be tragic.

As a gay, black male he's already at the bottom of the heap societally. This will add fuel to the fire for those who care about such things.

Everyone else will be fine, particularly Trump.

Nothing sticks to him.

There are many that WANT his story to be true. They prefer it to be a Trump Inspired Hate Crime as opposed to a PR stunt that went too far.

And as we learn more... it seems more and more that he was behind it all.

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Reply #374 posted 02/16/19 8:38am

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If the two Nigerian suspects were simply paid to walk down the street at a specific time and given free airplane tickets to Nigeria they broke no law. Now the lawyer says they have specific info related to the case and will speak to media when the time is right.
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Reply #375 posted 02/16/19 8:39am

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They just figured LE would never track down the two Nigerian guys to question.
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Reply #376 posted 02/16/19 9:01am

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CynicKill said:

Oh please.

This thing is way beyond caring about victims or Trump.

It's a media circus!

If he isn't being truthful then it really will be tragic.

As a gay, black male he's already at the bottom of the heap societally. This will add fuel to the fire for those who care about such things.

Everyone else will be fine, particularly Trump.

Nothing sticks to him.



There is NO QUESTION Jussie wanted to blame whites and Trump supporters, many of whom are white. His story would have been more believable if he had left out the part about the N-word and MAGA. Are you even aware of Jussie's disturbing hatred of Trump? Have you seen some of his social media?

My biggest concern absolutely is about future REAL victims who might not be believed because of Jussie. Doesn't matter if the victim is black, white, straight or gay. It would be a real tragedy if they are looked upon as just another lying attention-seeking Jussie wannabe. Victims Rights advocates are cringing at the thought Jussie made it all up, because of the repercussions. So is the gay community.

As for the "bottom of the heap" comment, it sounds like you are still stuck in the 80's. lol Never before has society been so protective and supportive of gay black males. Harsher penalties for hate crimes were specifically created for them. Employment laws preventing discrimination in the workplace were specifically created for them. Gay marriage, gay television shows, etc ... the list goes on and on. When was the last time a white hate crime victim was in the news? Just recently a popular up-and-coming singer/songwriter with a bright future was brutally murdered by 3 girls and 2 boys, all between 12 and 16 years old. Why do you think it got virtually no publicity, and not even one mention here? Meanwhile a gay black liberal gets a highly suspicious scratch on his face and it's treated like the crime of the century, go figure! rolleyes

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #377 posted 02/16/19 9:06am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Trump is a sickness that brings these scum to life.

I suspect you are correct but just not in the way you think...

it is a little early but interesting... no? And it sure looks like it was as I said a trump inspired hate crime...

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Reply #378 posted 02/16/19 9:14am

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Pokeno4Money said:

CynicKill said:

Oh please.

This thing is way beyond caring about victims or Trump.

It's a media circus!

If he isn't being truthful then it really will be tragic.

As a gay, black male he's already at the bottom of the heap societally. This will add fuel to the fire for those who care about such things.

Everyone else will be fine, particularly Trump.

Nothing sticks to him.



There is NO QUESTION Jussie wanted to blame whites and Trump supporters, many of whom are white. His story would have been more believable if he had left out the part about the N-word and MAGA. Are you even aware of Jussie's disturbing hatred of Trump? Have you seen some of his social media?

My biggest concern absolutely is about future REAL victims who might not be believed because of Jussie. Doesn't matter if the victim is black, white, straight or gay. It would be a real tragedy if they are looked upon as just another lying attention-seeking Jussie wannabe. Victims Rights advocates are cringing at the thought Jussie made it all up, because of the repercussions. So is the gay community.

As for the "bottom of the heap" comment, it sounds like you are still stuck in the 80's. lol Never before has society been so protective and supportive of gay black males. Harsher penalties for hate crimes were specifically created for them. Employment laws preventing discrimination in the workplace were specifically created for them. Gay marriage, gay television shows, etc ... the list goes on and on. When was the last time a white hate crime victim was in the news? Just recently a popular up-and-coming singer/songwriter with a bright future was brutally murdered by 3 girls and 2 boys, all between 12 and 16 years old. Why do you think it got virtually no publicity, and not even one mention here? Meanwhile a gay black liberal gets a highly suspicious scratch on his face and it's treated like the crime of the century, go figure! rolleyes

and what he has done is made it harder for actual victims to feel safe coming forward.


if he did, in fact, orchestrate this... and the FBI and Postal Inspector MUST look at the letter now then he has committed a hate crime!


and as I have said many times: the only case when hate crime laws should be used is when the action itself has little or no INTRINSIC criminal penalty attached.

it could very well be that he sent the letter and orchestrated this as a PR move.

if so, anyone, that wanted justice served MUST agree that he be charged to the full extent of the law.

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Reply #379 posted 02/16/19 9:18am

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2elijah said:

https://www.google.com/ur...6783263262 Empire' Cast and Crew BROTHERS NOT RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC OR PRO-TRUMP “The 2 men who were arrested, then released Friday night, in the Jussie Smollett case are pro-LGBTQ and anti-Trump, which has people on the "Empire" set scratching their heads. We've spoken with "Empire" cast and crew, and they say Ola and Abel Osundairo do not fit the profile of racists and homophobes -- not even close. As we reported, both men have been extras on "Empire" for years and both are friendly with Jussie, and Abel is especially close to him. We're told Jussie would frequently approach the brothers on set and chat about health and fitness. [Our Empire sources say Abel especially is an ally of the LGBTQ community, and neither have ever said anything positive about Trump. They're both big Obama fans. We're told Abel worked as an "Empire" extra as recently as a month ago. They're considered family on the set ... well-known and well-liked by cast and crew. The folks we've spoken with say they find it impossible to believe Ola and Abel have the DNA of criminals who would carry out the acts that Jussie describes -- and obviously cops now believe that as well. Police arrested the brothers for battery Friday after cops raided their home Wednesday and seized a long list of items, including several bottles of bleach. However, late Friday Chicago PD released the brothers due to "new evidence" gathered from their interrogation ... and said they're no longer suspects. As we reported, Jussie initially said his attackers were white -- yet another fact that just doesn't track with the Osundairos profile.” *****++ Sidenote: TMZ needs to clarify their evidence where they claim Jussie told them the race of his attackers, because during the Robin Roberts interview, and police interview, he never gave the race of his attackers. Some folks took what he said and twisted it to their satisfaction and agenda. Some may need to work on their reading comprehension skills. Many of his critics, who were trump supporters, went after him because he said one of the attackers yelled “This is MAGA country n****r”. So some trump supporters took that and made their assumptions that Jussie claimed the attackers were possibly White/trump supporters, based on what Jussie said of the attackers comments. Keep in mind, if Jussie saw their faces, the cops would not have went after the 2 brothers who were Black, if Jussie said the attackers were White. That’s just plain common sense folks. Jussie was apparently hoping the men in the vid, were the attackers, because of the lack of video in the area showing evidence of the attack, and that was the only camera showing anyone in proximity of the incident that night. Jussie’s been called a liar, and continued to be accused that his incident is a hoax. Jussie stated in the interview, that a lot of the doubt of the incident came from trump/MAGA supporters, and that’s what made him angry, because they had no empathy regarding his attack and assumed he lied about it, yet no confirmation of the attackers’ race was made by Jussie or CPD. He said he didn’t see his attackers faces because they wore masks. It was early news reports who stated the race of the attackers, without confirmation from Jussie or police. Another thing, if the lab testing of the bottle found didn’t match the dna results of the brothers, then that could be another reason they were released, besides what the police obtained from the interrogation. So until Jussie and the CPD confirms who the actual suspects are, and CPD releases more evidence to the investigation, everything else is just going to be ‘gossip, assumptions, hearsay and rumors’ from many within the social media community. We shall see what the 2 brothers’ attorney have to say about their arrest/release, and also what Jussie Smollett’s attorney will say about the case and search for the suspects. [/b]

^ Agreed.

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Reply #380 posted 02/16/19 9:20am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

There are many that WANT his story to be true. They prefer it to be a Trump Inspired Hate Crime as opposed to a PR stunt that went too far.


At first I didn't doubt that it happened, because as a Christian I was taught to believe in people unless they prove to be dishonest. And it was hard to believe anybody would do such a vile thing as make up something like this for their own personal gain. Then again, he is a professional actor ... so maybe I was being a bit naive, but still I wanted to believe he was telling the truth AT LEAST about the attack part.

And look what we have here:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/16/jussie-smollett-suspects-lawyer-attack-release/

The lawyer for the 2 men who were arrested and then released in connection with the alleged attack on Jussie Smollett says the new evidence that has changed this case is something her clients told cops.

Attorney Gloria Schmidt was at the Chicago police station Friday night, after her clients, Ola and Abel Osundairo, were released from custody. Schmidt said the "new evidence" that triggered the release of her clients was something they knew and presumably told cops.

Our photog asked Schmidt flat out if the "attack" was staged, and she answered obliquely, saying there were moving parts and she didn't want to speculate.

As we reported, Ola and Abel both worked on "Empire," and Abel was especially friendly with Jussie.

And, something else interesting ... she wouldn't answer why her clients went to Nigeria the day of the alleged attack, but added it was a "great question."

She said she didn't want to speak for her clients because they had a story to tell "when the time is right." That clearly sounds like they have inside information about what went down at Jussie's apartment building.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #381 posted 02/16/19 9:45am

CynicKill

But why, after all this speculation that it's a hoax, go on national television and bring even more attention to the case if it is indeed a hoax?

I'm sure there will be a splashy revelation any minute now but it makes no sense.

Is he manic depressive?

As far as fallout I hear what you're saying about societal strides black gays have seemed to have made over the decades but at the end of the day as a black man himself the damage will hit hardest on them.

White women will be fine.

Trumps base will be fine.

Even white gay males will be fine I think. And that community can have some strong racist views that will shock most people.

The media is the one that should take the hit.

Too damn eager to report a story, but its been this way for years.

Ever since the 24 hour news cycle.

It is what it is.

Take everyhting with a grain of salt.

And stop being so judgemental and hateful.

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Reply #382 posted 02/16/19 9:52am

OnlyNDaUsa

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CynicKill said:

But why, after all this speculation that it's a hoax, go on national television and bring even more attention to the case if it is indeed a hoax?

I'm sure there will be a splashy revelation any minute now but it makes no sense.

Is he manic depressive?

As far as fallout I hear what you're saying about societal strides black gays have seemed to have made over the decades but at the end of the day as a black man himself the damage will hit hardest on them.

White women will be fine.

Trumps base will be fine.

Even white gay males will be fine I think. And that community can have some strong racist views that will shock most people.

The media is the one that should take the hit.

Too damn eager to report a story, but its been this way for years.

Ever since the 24 hour news cycle.

It is what it is.

Take everyhting with a grain of salt.

And stop being so judgemental and hateful.

the only ones being judgmental and hateful are the ones still twisting to defend Jussie...

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #383 posted 02/16/19 10:01am

CynicKill

OnlyNDaUsa said:

CynicKill said:

But why, after all this speculation that it's a hoax, go on national television and bring even more attention to the case if it is indeed a hoax?

I'm sure there will be a splashy revelation any minute now but it makes no sense.

Is he manic depressive?

As far as fallout I hear what you're saying about societal strides black gays have seemed to have made over the decades but at the end of the day as a black man himself the damage will hit hardest on them.

White women will be fine.

Trumps base will be fine.

Even white gay males will be fine I think. And that community can have some strong racist views that will shock most people.

The media is the one that should take the hit.

Too damn eager to report a story, but its been this way for years.

Ever since the 24 hour news cycle.

It is what it is.

Take everyhting with a grain of salt.

And stop being so judgemental and hateful.

the only ones being judgmental and hateful are the ones still twisting to defend Jussie...

Are there any left?

There's been enough plot twists to rival Empire (and if you don't watch please do, its soaptastic!).

As of late I haven't seen one pro-Smollett story. Its been that way for days now.

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Reply #384 posted 02/16/19 10:54am

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“Yes, they are confirmed to be the men on scene by surveillance video,” Chicago Police said in a statement to ABC7 Chicago. “The reason why they were there is now central to the investigation and we can’t get into that at this time!!!!!”
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #385 posted 02/16/19 11:13am

SuperFurryAnim
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CynicKill said:

But why, after all this speculation that it's a hoax, go on national television and bring even more attention to the case if it is indeed a hoax?


I'm sure there will be a splashy revelation any minute now but it makes no sense.


Is he manic depressive?


As far as fallout I hear what you're saying about societal strides black gays have seemed to have made over the decades but at the end of the day as a black man himself the damage will hit hardest on them.


White women will be fine.


Trumps base will be fine.


Even white gay males will be fine I think. And that community can have some strong racist views that will shock most people.


The media is the one that should take the hit.


Too damn eager to report a story, but its been this way for years.


Ever since the 24 hour news cycle.


It is what it is.


Take everyhting with a grain of salt.


And stop being so judgemental and hateful.







They tried to pin it on MAGA. Connected directly as a friend to CNN anchor. Following the Covington MAGA hat fake news. Fake news about BBC reporter attacked by a red hat MAGA. We are under attack. It is called bird dogging.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #386 posted 02/16/19 12:22pm

DiminutiveRock
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CynicKill said:

But why, after all this speculation that it's a hoax, go on national television and bring even more attention to the case if it is indeed a hoax?


I'm sure there will be a splashy revelation any minute now but it makes no sense.


Is he manic depressive?


As far as fallout I hear what you're saying about societal strides black gays have seemed to have made over the decades but at the end of the day as a black man himself the damage will hit hardest on them.


White women will be fine.


Trumps base will be fine.


Even white gay males will be fine I think. And that community can have some strong racist views that will shock most people.


The media is the one that should take the hit.


Too damn eager to report a story, but its been this way for years.


Ever since the 24 hour news cycle.


It is what it is.


Take everyhting with a grain of salt.


And stop being so judgemental and hateful.







:nod: yeahthat
"Families are torn apart, men women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find their parents have gone missing." - Anne Frank
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Reply #387 posted 02/16/19 12:25pm

MoBettaBliss

CynicKill said:

Take everyhting with a grain of salt.

And stop being so judgemental and hateful.



yep

the truth will come out in the end

until then, everyone needs to just breathe

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Reply #388 posted 02/16/19 12:36pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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MoBettaBliss said:

CynicKill said:

Take everyhting with a grain of salt.

And stop being so judgemental and hateful.



yep

the truth will come out in the end

until then, everyone needs to just breathe

except that was NOT the approach before... now it seems there is something BIG to the story that is yet to be made public.

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #389 posted 02/16/19 12:48pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

MoBettaBliss said:



yep

the truth will come out in the end

until then, everyone needs to just breathe

except that was NOT the approach before... now it seems there is something BIG to the story that is yet to be made public.


Exactly! The calming and breathing should have been done weeks ago when so many were jumping to the conclusion that Jussie's ridiculous story was true. But as usual they used it as an opportunity to trash evil white Trump supporters.

Hopefully they can positively identify the person who purchased the rope.

The only silver lining is that Jussie didn't drag some poor soul into this by falsely accusing a specific person or persons. He didn't ruin anybody's life the way Tawana Brawley, Crystal Mangum etc did.

But Jussie sure as hell was trying to contribute to a race war, wasn't he? nod

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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