herb4 said:

While I agree that liberals can be misinformed, I disagree that they willfully lie and mislead with impunity the way FOX and talk radio does.

Also, I remember RWM types screaming about voter fraud but they've been oddly silent on this:

Election fraud in North Carolina.

RALEIGH, N.C. — A key witness testified Monday that she engaged in fraudulent and illegal activity involving absentee ballots in a congressional race in North Carolina as part of a get-out-the vote operation to benefit the Republican congressional candidate in a race that is still unresolved.

She admitted taking absentee ballots for money and discarding them.
She was urged to plead the 5th and not testify. This is madness— democracy is up for sale.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226263575.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/key-witness-testifies-tampering-absentee-ballots-n-c-house-race-n972896

C'mon herb, ya gotta let "the south" run elections the way they always have - the way God intended.

poppys said:

herb4 said:

While I agree that liberals can be misinformed, I disagree that they willfully lie and mislead with impunity the way FOX and talk radio does.

Also, I remember RWM types screaming about voter fraud but they've been oddly silent on this:

Election fraud in North Carolina.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226263575.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/key-witness-testifies-tampering-absentee-ballots-n-c-house-race-n972896

C'mon herb, ya gotta let "the south" run elections the way they always have - the way God intended.

Like in Georgia?

herb4 said:

poppys said:

C'mon herb, ya gotta let "the south" run elections the way they always have - the way God intended.

Like in Georgia?

Yep, or Louisiana, I got stories.

Tim Wise was talking about how the majority of Loisiana white voters wanted David Duke as Senator. Knowing he was a nazi, but they did not care. Sound familiar?

this country is hopelessly racist, egged on by the RWM.

2freaky4church1 said:

Tim Wise was talking about how the majority of Loisiana white voters wanted David Duke as Senator. Knowing he was a nazi, but they did not care. Sound familiar?

Wrong . Duke barely got any votes the last time he ran in 2016. If it wasn't for Trump, he would be in the toilet.

Not to mention Louisiana is 32% African-American, and not ALL white people are racist. New Orleans is over 60% African-American. As I just said on another thread, we recently voted in an African-American female mayor, LaToya Cantrell.

People don't understand "the south" - "the north" likes to think they are better, they're not - I've lived in both. They are just different. Voter suppression is a thing here because of the population breakdown that northern states do not share. The north can, and does wipe out the minority vote, because of the demographics, not because they are superior in their views on race.

poppys said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Tim Wise was talking about how the majority of Loisiana white voters wanted David Duke as Senator. Knowing he was a nazi, but they did not care. Sound familiar?

Wrong . Duke barely got any votes the last time he ran in 2016. If it wasn't for Trump, he would be in the toilet.

Not to mention Louisiana is 32% African-American, and not ALL white people are racist. New Orleans is over 60% African-American. As I just said on another thread, we recently voted in an African-American female mayor, LaToya Cantrell.

People don't understand "the south" - "the north" likes to think they are better, they're not - I've lived in both. They are just different. Voter suppression is a thing here because of the population breakdown that northern states do not share. The north can, and does wipe out the minority vote, because of the demographics, not because they are superior in their views on race.

Yeah - everyone knows the West is better than all ya'll! J/K!

DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said:

Wrong . Duke barely got any votes the last time he ran in 2016. If it wasn't for Trump, he would be in the toilet.

Not to mention Louisiana is 32% African-American, and not ALL white people are racist. New Orleans is over 60% African-American. As I just said on another thread, we recently voted in an African-American female mayor, LaToya Cantrell.

People don't understand "the south" - "the north" likes to think they are better, they're not - I've lived in both. They are just different. Voter suppression is a thing here because of the population breakdown that northern states do not share. The north can, and does wipe out the minority vote, because of the demographics, not because they are superior in their views on race.

Yeah - everyone knows the West is better than all ya'll! J/K!

David Duke is originally from Oklahoma though.

Regionalism has to be recognized for the divisions it creates without understanding that voting (and the suppression of voting) is all about representation, no matter what part of the country.

poppys said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Yeah - everyone knows the West is better than all ya'll! J/K!

David Duke is originally from Oklahoma though.

Regionalism has to be recognized for the divisions it creates without understanding that voting (and the suppression of voting) is all about representation, no matter what part of the country.

...or about gerrymandering.

DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said:

David Duke is originally from Oklahoma though.

Regionalism has to be recognized for the divisions it creates without understanding that voting (and the suppression of voting) is all about representation, no matter what part of the country.

...or about gerrymandering.

Agree. The Electoral College, Gerrymandering, and plain old dirty tricks Voter Suppression (via "mistakes", shortened voting hours etc etc) are the trifecta of unfair representation.

poppys said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

...or about gerrymandering.

Agree. The Electoral College, Gerrymandering, and plain old dirty tricks Voter Suppression (via "mistakes", shortened voting hours etc etc) are the trifecta of unfair representation.

Can any on here hear the howls of outrage about the electoral college if 2 of the last 3 democratic presidents had loast the popular vote and gotten elected? You know, like 2 out of the last 2 republican ones?

The 2 since the 1800's - GW Bush & Trump - They are getting better at fixing elections, whatever way they are doing it.

One person, one vote, counted fairly. The only way it really works.

THEN we deal with what we got. Oh, and it would be nice if that other 43% of eligible voters would actually cast their vote. If we didn't have the Electoral College, Gerrymandering and Voter Suppression, maybe people would VOTE!

Since I moved to LA, my Presidential vote has not counted, including Obama, 2x. Courting apathy in younger voters, no doubt.

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Here, watch FOX NEws "journalist" Tucker Carlson call a guest a "tiny brain...moron' duing an interview that FOX refuses to air


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_nFI2Zb7qE

Here's a good exceerpt from "Blinded by the Right", the book that inspired my thread title


https://www.salon.com/201...side_dope/

Look at our righties here. Always unhinged. I and other leftists follow the facts and that is that.

2freaky4church1 said:

Look at our righties here. Always unhinged. I and other leftists follow the facts and that is that.

Except your facts are totally wrong about David Duke and his last Senate race. You need to update your go-to sources. Cincinnati ain't that far across the river to be pointing fingers either.

herb4 said:

herb4 said:

Here's a good exceerpt from "Blinded by the Right", the book that inspired my thread title


https://www.salon.com/201...side_dope/

Fox is the sickest fucking entity on earth.

Thought you might like this herb4.

nbc.com
WASHINGTON — The top tax-writing committee in the House is readying a request for years of President Donald Trump’s personal tax returns that is expected to land at the Internal Revenue Service as early as the next few weeks, according to congressional aides involved in the process. And Democrats are prepared to "take all necessary steps," including litigation, in order to obtain them.

To the surprise of exactly nobody, FOX NEws intentionally sat on and squashed the Trump/Stormy Daniels story before the election.

http://www.newshounds.us/fox_news_killed_stormy_daniels_payoff_story_before_election_030419

In a must-read exposé of Fox News in the Trump era, The New Yorker's Jane Mayer reveals that Fox reporter Diana Falzone uncovered Trump’s hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election only to have the story killed by the network.

Some highlights from Tucker Carlson regarding race

“I mean everyone’s embarrassed to be a white man I guess, that’s a bad thing.”

“[W]hite men, you know, they’ve contributed some, I would say … Well, I mean creating civilization and stuff, I think they’ve done a pretty—I don’t know, whatever!”

“Iraq is a crappy place filled with a bunch of, you know, semiliterate primitive monkeys—that’s why it wasn’t worth invading.”

“[Iraq is] never going to be a civilized country because the people aren’t civilized.”

“I’m not defending the [Iraq] war in any way, but I just have zero sympathy for them or their culture. A culture where people just don’t use toilet paper or forks.”

“[Iraqis] can just shut the fuck up and obey, is my view. And, you know, the second we leave, they’re going to be calling for us to return because they can’t govern themselves.”

“If there were a Democrat to come out in the 2008 election and say, ‘You know what the problem is? It’s Islamic extremism. It’s not terror, it’s not some, you know, indefinable threat out there. It’s these lunatic Muslims who are behaving like animals, and I’m going to kill as many of them as I can if you elect me.’ If a Democrat were to say that, he would be elected king, OK?”

“The Congressional Black Caucus exists to blame the white man for everything, and I’m happy to say that in public because it’s true. Everyone knows it’s true.”

“Everybody knows that Barack Obama would still be in the state Senate in Illinois if he were white.”

Read more at http://www.newshounds.us/...EacHttC.99

herb4 said:

jjhunsecker said:

^^ I've hated that douche for decades. Now I know even more reasons why.

poppys said:

2elijah said:

poppys said:

^^ I've hated that douche for decades. Now I know even more reasons why.

Exactly. But I’m glad folks now have evidence of his ignorant, racist mentality and his disrespect towards women, right from his own mouth. Why is it that folks who harbor his ignorance and deep hatred, are so angry that non-White humans exists in this world, and have every right to be here, and don’t need his damn permission to exist. His disrespectful comments about women, makes you wonder if he was hugged and loved as a child. I think dude has some mommy issues.
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jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:

Exactly. But I’m glad folks now have evidence of his ignorant, racist mentality and his disrespect towards women, right from his own mouth. Why is it that folks who harbor his ignorance and deep hatred, are so angry that non-White humans exists in this world, and have every right to be here, and don’t need his damn permission to exist. His disrespectful comments about women, makes you wonder if he was hugged and loved as a child. I think dude has some mommy issues. [Edited 3/12/19 8:00am]

Could ANYONE love this scumbag ? Even a mother?

jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:

Exactly. But I’m glad folks now have evidence of his ignorant, racist mentality and his disrespect towards women, right from his own mouth. Why is it that folks who harbor his ignorance and deep hatred, are so angry that non-White humans exists in this world, and have every right to be here, and don’t need his damn permission to exist. His disrespectful comments about women, makes you wonder if he was hugged and loved as a child. I think dude has some mommy issues.
[Edited 3/12/19 8:00am]

Could ANYONE love this scumbag ? Even a mother?