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Reply #600 posted 02/16/19 5:54pm

poppys

2elijah said:

This dude is definitely going to prison once he’s no longer president.


Motto post to remember!

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Reply #601 posted 02/16/19 6:37pm

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2elijah said:

herb4 said:


I'd bet my life savings he won't.

Not because I don't think he's a criminal (and that still has to be proven mind you) but because rich people write and enforce the laws. No one went down for nearly crashing the entire US economy in 2008 and many of those responsible got cabinet poistions in Obama's administration. Then the spin became "let's blame everything on poor people" who were given loans people in charge knew they couldn't afford but took that money and gambled it away on people's retirement funds.

This is not a just nation nor a just world. It never has been. Laws are only as good as the people that enforce them and our nation's jails aren't packed to the rafters with people who have enough money to buy "justice". Justice costs money and our jails are largely filled with non violent drug offenders. Oliver North sold drugs and guns to fund illegal wars and not only never spent a day in jail, he has a pundit job on FOX News.

DJT may be run out office in disgrace but he never spend one day in prison. Frankly, I'm not banking on either.

I think he's gonna skate.

I hear you, and actually believe you, as you make good points, but for me, the best day will be when that idiot is no longer president, by being voted out of office. [Edited 2/16/19 17:12pm]


That's entirely possible and something I'm ready to belive in. Now the dems just have to run a good candidate.

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Reply #602 posted 02/17/19 5:12am

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herb4 said:



2elijah said:


herb4 said:



I'd bet my life savings he won't.

Not because I don't think he's a criminal (and that still has to be proven mind you) but because rich people write and enforce the laws. No one went down for nearly crashing the entire US economy in 2008 and many of those responsible got cabinet poistions in Obama's administration. Then the spin became "let's blame everything on poor people" who were given loans people in charge knew they couldn't afford but took that money and gambled it away on people's retirement funds.

This is not a just nation nor a just world. It never has been. Laws are only as good as the people that enforce them and our nation's jails aren't packed to the rafters with people who have enough money to buy "justice". Justice costs money and our jails are largely filled with non violent drug offenders. Oliver North sold drugs and guns to fund illegal wars and not only never spent a day in jail, he has a pundit job on FOX News.

DJT may be run out office in disgrace but he never spend one day in prison. Frankly, I'm not banking on either.

I think he's gonna skate.



I hear you, and actually believe you, as you make good points, but for me, the best day will be when that idiot is no longer president, by being voted out of office. [Edited 2/16/19 17:12pm]


That's entirely possible and something I'm ready to belive in. Now the dems just have to run a good candidate.


Exactly.
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Reply #603 posted 02/17/19 6:36pm

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2elijah said:

herb4 said:


That's entirely possible and something I'm ready to belive in. Now the dems just have to run a good candidate.

Exactly.



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Reply #604 posted 02/18/19 6:35am

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Anyone watch McCabe on 60 Minutes last night?

Clip from CBS This Morning - Scot Pelley elaborates on the interview:






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Reply #605 posted 02/18/19 10:13am

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Anyone watch McCabe on 60 Minutes last night?

Clip from CBS This Morning - Scot Pelley elaborates on the interview:







I didn't but I know right wing circles are flipping their shit over it.

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Reply #606 posted 02/18/19 10:14am

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The latest is that the right is saying FBI trying to start a coup against Trump. Even some on the left like Glenn Greenwald agree.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #607 posted 02/18/19 12:31pm

Musicslave

2freaky4church1 said:

The latest is that the right is saying FBI trying to start a coup against Trump. Even some on the left like Glenn Greenwald agree.

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Right. Nice spin thumbs up! They are choosing to ignore all of the times trump was officially briefed on the activities of the Russians as President-Elect and yet he still was privately and publicy denying their involvement. This was long before that treasonous Helsinki press conference with his boss.

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The so-called checks and balances built into the Constitution factors in this type of stuff. In my opinion they had every right to weigh their options the Constitution afforded them at the time.

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Rosenstein can probably quit the innocent game now, he'll be fired soon by a newly sworn in AG, William Barr. Or, Mueller will submit his final report and he'll be relieved of duties anyway. Either way, the damage is pretty much done now. Rosenstein did his job by keeping the investigation open as long as he could without interference from the WH.

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[Edited 2/18/19 12:36pm]

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Reply #608 posted 02/18/19 12:40pm

poppys

Musicslave said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The latest is that the right is saying FBI trying to start a coup against Trump. Even some on the left like Glenn Greenwald agree.

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Right. Nice spin thumbs up! They are choosing to ignore all of the times trump was officially briefed on the activities of the Russians as President-Elect and yet he still was privately and publicy denying their involvement. This was long before that treasonous Helsinki press conference with his boss.

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The so-called checks and balances built into the Constitution factors in this type of stuff. In my opinion they had every right to weigh their options the Constitution afforded them at the time.

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Rosenstein can probably quit the innocent game now, he'll be fired soon by a newly sworn in AG, William Barr. Or, Mueller will submit his final report and he'll be relieved of duties anyway. Either way, the damage is pretty much done now. Rosenstein did his job by keeping the investigation open as long as he could without interference from the WH.

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Thanks for the sanity Musicslave.

Freaky why do you keep trying to make coup a thing?

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Reply #609 posted 02/18/19 1:27pm

Musicslave

poppys said:

Musicslave said:

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Right. Nice spin thumbs up! They are choosing to ignore all of the times trump was officially briefed on the activities of the Russians as President-Elect and yet he still was privately and publicy denying their involvement. This was long before that treasonous Helsinki press conference with his boss.

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The so-called checks and balances built into the Constitution factors in this type of stuff. In my opinion they had every right to weigh their options the Constitution afforded them at the time.

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Rosenstein can probably quit the innocent game now, he'll be fired soon by a newly sworn in AG, William Barr. Or, Mueller will submit his final report and he'll be relieved of duties anyway. Either way, the damage is pretty much done now. Rosenstein did his job by keeping the investigation open as long as he could without interference from the WH.

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Thanks for the sanity Musicslave.

Freaky why do you keep trying to make coup a thing?

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Because that's the latest talking point. (excuse me, you weren't talking to me). lol

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Reply #610 posted 02/18/19 1:37pm

poppys

Musicslave said:

poppys said:

Thanks for the sanity Musicslave.

Freaky why do you keep trying to make coup a thing?

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Because that's the latest talking point. (excuse me, you weren't talking to me). lol

lol

If at first you don't succeed, rinse and repeat.

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Reply #611 posted 02/18/19 1:54pm

Musicslave

poppys said:

Musicslave said:

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Because that's the latest talking point. (excuse me, you weren't talking to me). lol

lol

If at first you don't succeed, rinse and repeat.

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lol Taken from the Washington Post Article:

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Why allegations of a ‘coup’ against Trump are unfounded

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/18/why-allegations-coup-against-trump-are-unfounded/?utm_term=.d2efc4fc7aa6

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Reply #612 posted 02/18/19 2:06pm

poppys

Musicslave said:

poppys said:

lol

If at first you don't succeed, rinse and repeat.

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lol Taken from the Washington Post Article:

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Why allegations of a ‘coup’ against Trump are unfounded

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/18/why-allegations-coup-against-trump-are-unfounded/?utm_term=.d2efc4fc7aa6

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nod

The Mercury News 2/18/19

First, removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is by definition not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.

Second, it’s not as though Rosenstein could simply have stepped up to a microphone and announced that the president was no longer president, any more than Michael Scott’s declaration of bankruptcy in “The Office” was sufficient for that task.

For a president to be removed from office under the mechanism included in the amendment, one of two things has to happen. A majority of the Cabinet and Vice President Mike Pence must agree that Trump is unfit for office, or Pence and a commission established by Congress (which doesn’t currently exist) would have to reach a similar agreement.

Coup my azz. What're the chances anyway with Pence involved?

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Reply #613 posted 02/18/19 2:24pm

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poppys said:



Musicslave said:




poppys said:



lol

If at first you don't succeed, rinse and repeat.



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lol Taken from the Washington Post Article:


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Why allegations of a ‘coup’ against Trump are unfounded



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/18/why-allegations-coup-against-trump-are-unfounded/?utm_term=.d2efc4fc7aa6


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nod

The Mercury News 2/18/19


First, removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is by definition not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.



Second, it’s not as though Rosenstein could simply have stepped up to a microphone and announced that the president was no longer president, any more than Michael Scott’s declaration of bankruptcy in “The Office” was sufficient for that task.



For a president to be removed from office under the mechanism included in the amendment, one of two things has to happen. A majority of the Cabinet and Vice President Mike Pence must agree that Trump is unfit for office, or Pence and a commission established by Congress (which doesn’t currently exist) would have to reach a similar agreement.

Coup my azz. What're the chances anyway with Pence involved?




^ thanks, Poppy’s. U would think US senators and congressmen would
Know this!!
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Reply #614 posted 02/18/19 4:51pm

poppys

^^ You'd think Malcolm X Freaky would know it too.

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Reply #615 posted 02/18/19 5:05pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The latest is that the right is saying FBI trying to start a coup against Trump. Even some on the left like Glenn Greenwald agree.


What'd they do, demand to see his birth certificate?

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Reply #616 posted 02/19/19 6:03am

poppys

Roger Stone Apologizes to Judge After Posting Picture Showing Her With Rifle Crosshairs

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Reply #617 posted 02/19/19 6:24am

Musicslave

poppys said:

Roger Stone Apologizes to Judge After Posting Picture Showing Her With Rifle Crosshairs

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Stone is as smart as a box of Rocks.

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Reply #618 posted 02/19/19 6:26am

Musicslave

DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said:

nod

The Mercury News 2/18/19

First, removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is by definition not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.

Second, it’s not as though Rosenstein could simply have stepped up to a microphone and announced that the president was no longer president, any more than Michael Scott’s declaration of bankruptcy in “The Office” was sufficient for that task.

For a president to be removed from office under the mechanism included in the amendment, one of two things has to happen. A majority of the Cabinet and Vice President Mike Pence must agree that Trump is unfit for office, or Pence and a commission established by Congress (which doesn’t currently exist) would have to reach a similar agreement.

Coup my azz. What're the chances anyway with Pence involved?

^ thanks, Poppy’s. U would think US senators and congressmen would Know this!!

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They do know this. It's just a political talking point to keep his 35-42% fired up. Not to mention a little deflection.

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Reply #619 posted 02/19/19 6:59am

2elijah

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poppys said:



Musicslave said:




poppys said:



lol

If at first you don't succeed, rinse and repeat.



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lol Taken from the Washington Post Article:


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Why allegations of a ‘coup’ against Trump are unfounded



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/18/why-allegations-coup-against-trump-are-unfounded/?utm_term=.d2efc4fc7aa6


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nod

The Mercury News 2/18/19


First, removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is by definition not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.



Second, it’s not as though Rosenstein could simply have stepped up to a microphone and announced that the president was no longer president, any more than Michael Scott’s declaration of bankruptcy in “The Office” was sufficient for that task.



For a president to be removed from office under the mechanism included in the amendment, one of two things has to happen. A majority of the Cabinet and Vice President Mike Pence must agree that Trump is unfit for office, or Pence and a commission established by Congress (which doesn’t currently exist) would have to reach a similar agreement.

Coup my azz. What're the chances anyway with Pence involved?



Pence won’t do it. He doesn’t have balls big enough, to agree to remove trump from office.
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Reply #620 posted 02/19/19 7:04am

poppys

Musicslave said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said: ^ thanks, Poppy’s. U would think US senators and congressmen would Know this!!

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They do know this. It's just a political talking point to keep his 35-42% fired up. Not to mention a little deflection.


Yeah, all of a sudden - they all speak French, the dumbasses.

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Reply #621 posted 02/19/19 7:08am

poppys

2elijah said:

poppys said:

nod

The Mercury News 2/18/19

First, removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is by definition not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.

Second, it’s not as though Rosenstein could simply have stepped up to a microphone and announced that the president was no longer president, any more than Michael Scott’s declaration of bankruptcy in “The Office” was sufficient for that task.

For a president to be removed from office under the mechanism included in the amendment, one of two things has to happen. A majority of the Cabinet and Vice President Mike Pence must agree that Trump is unfit for office, or Pence and a commission established by Congress (which doesn’t currently exist) would have to reach a similar agreement.

Coup my azz. What're the chances anyway with Pence involved?


Pence won’t do it. He doesn’t have balls big enough, to agree to remove trump from office.


nod Plus, Trump is doing everything Pence wants done. Probably prays every day that Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies.

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Reply #622 posted 02/19/19 7:22am

2elijah

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poppys said:



2elijah said:


poppys said:


nod

The Mercury News 2/18/19


First, removing a president from office using systems included in the Constitution is by definition not a coup. Removing Trump from office by following the guidelines of the 25th Amendment would no more be a coup than removing him from office through impeachment or, really, than voting for another candidate in 2020. It’s part of the system.



Second, it’s not as though Rosenstein could simply have stepped up to a microphone and announced that the president was no longer president, any more than Michael Scott’s declaration of bankruptcy in “The Office” was sufficient for that task.



For a president to be removed from office under the mechanism included in the amendment, one of two things has to happen. A majority of the Cabinet and Vice President Mike Pence must agree that Trump is unfit for office, or Pence and a commission established by Congress (which doesn’t currently exist) would have to reach a similar agreement.

Coup my azz. What're the chances anyway with Pence involved?





Pence won’t do it. He doesn’t have balls big enough, to agree to remove trump from office.



nod Plus, Trump is doing everything Pence wants done. Probably prays every day that Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies.



He may be out of luck, because she just returned to the Supreme Court today.
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Reply #623 posted 02/19/19 7:44am

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Andrew McCabe: The president— launched into— several unrelated diatribes. One of those was commenting on the recent missile launches by the government of North Korea. And, essentially, the president said he did not believe that the North Koreans had the capability to hit us here with ballistic missiles in the United States. And he did not believe that because President Putin had told him they did not. President Putin had told him that the North Koreans don't actually have those missiles.

Scott Pelley: And U.S. intelligence was telling the president what?

Andrew McCabe: Intelligence officials in the briefing responded that that was not consistent with any of the intelligence our government possesses to which the president replied, "I don't care. I believe Putin."

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Reply #624 posted 02/19/19 8:06am

Musicslave

poppys said:

2elijah said:

poppys said:
Pence won’t do it. He doesn’t have balls big enough, to agree to remove trump from office.


nod Plus, Trump is doing everything Pence wants done. Probably prays every day that Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies.

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Which is why the president's job was never seriously threatened by the 25th. trump is literally a godsend in Pence's circle. Past or present, all is forgiven when it comes to their golden god in the red tie.

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Reply #625 posted 02/19/19 8:06am

poppys

herb4 said:

Andrew McCabe: The president— launched into— several unrelated diatribes. One of those was commenting on the recent missile launches by the government of North Korea. And, essentially, the president said he did not believe that the North Koreans had the capability to hit us here with ballistic missiles in the United States. And he did not believe that because President Putin had told him they did not. President Putin had told him that the North Koreans don't actually have those missiles.

Scott Pelley: And U.S. intelligence was telling the president what?

Andrew McCabe: Intelligence officials in the briefing responded that that was not consistent with any of the intelligence our government possesses to which the president replied, "I don't care. I believe Putin."


Wow. Why would Putin tell him that? What's his angle? - because there is one. Could Putin actually know that?

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Reply #626 posted 02/19/19 8:09am

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poppys said:

herb4 said:

Andrew McCabe: The president— launched into— several unrelated diatribes. One of those was commenting on the recent missile launches by the government of North Korea. And, essentially, the president said he did not believe that the North Koreans had the capability to hit us here with ballistic missiles in the United States. And he did not believe that because President Putin had told him they did not. President Putin had told him that the North Koreans don't actually have those missiles.

Scott Pelley: And U.S. intelligence was telling the president what?

Andrew McCabe: Intelligence officials in the briefing responded that that was not consistent with any of the intelligence our government possesses to which the president replied, "I don't care. I believe Putin."


Wow. Why would Putin tell him that? What's his angle? - because there is one. Could Putin actually know that?

It does not even matter if Putin knows anything - because Trump believes he does.

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Reply #627 posted 02/19/19 8:19am

poppys

DiminutiveRocker said:

poppys said:


Wow. Why would Putin tell him that? What's his angle? - because there is one. Could Putin actually know that?

It does not even matter if Putin knows anything - because Trump believes he does.


True. But why does Putin want the US out of North Korea? Is Russia aligned with Kim Jong Un? Is it North Korea vs South Korea issue? Or a nuclear issue?

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Reply #628 posted 02/19/19 8:56am

Musicslave

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-stone/former-trump-adviser-stone-ordered-to-appear-in-court-over-instagram-posts-idUSKCN1Q81XX

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Former Trump adviser Stone ordered to appear in court over Instagram posts

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Roger Stone, a former political adviser to U.S. President Donald Trump, was ordered on Tuesday to appear in court this week over Instagram posts that chastised and appeared to threaten the judge presiding over his criminal trial.

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U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson said Stone would need to show cause at a hearing on Thursday as to why the posts did not violate a gag order in the case or the conditions of his release.

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Stone’s attorneys filed a formal apology with the court on Monday, after he posted a photograph on Instagram of Jackson alongside what appeared to be the crosshairs of a gun.

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He later deleted the image and reposted it without the crosshairs before removing it again, according to other media outlets.

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Next to the close-up image of Jackson’s face, Stone said Jackson was an “Obama appointed Judge who dismissed the Benghazi charges” against Hillary Clinton. He also accused Mueller of being a “Deep State hitman.”

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Stone later posted a statement on his account saying the photo was not intended to threaten the judge or disrespect the court.

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His posts came just days after Jackson issued a partial media gag order on Stone and his lawyers.

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Friday’s order prohibits them from speaking with the news media or making statements near the federal courthouse about the case, but it does not stop Stone from discussing the case when he is away from the courthouse.

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lol lol lol lol lol

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Reply #629 posted 02/19/19 9:19am

poppys

Musicslave said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-stone/former-trump-adviser-stone-ordered-to-appear-in-court-over-instagram-posts-idUSKCN1Q81XX

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Former Trump adviser Stone ordered to appear in court over Instagram posts

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Roger Stone, a former political adviser to U.S. President Donald Trump, was ordered on Tuesday to appear in court this week over Instagram posts that chastised and appeared to threaten the judge presiding over his criminal trial.

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U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson said Stone would need to show cause at a hearing on Thursday as to why the posts did not violate a gag order in the case or the conditions of his release.

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Stone’s attorneys filed a formal apology with the court on Monday, after he posted a photograph on Instagram of Jackson alongside what appeared to be the crosshairs of a gun.

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He later deleted the image and reposted it without the crosshairs before removing it again, according to other media outlets.

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Next to the close-up image of Jackson’s face, Stone said Jackson was an “Obama appointed Judge who dismissed the Benghazi charges” against Hillary Clinton. He also accused Mueller of being a “Deep State hitman.”

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Stone later posted a statement on his account saying the photo was not intended to threaten the judge or disrespect the court.

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His posts came just days after Jackson issued a partial media gag order on Stone and his lawyers.

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Friday’s order prohibits them from speaking with the news media or making statements near the federal courthouse about the case, but it does not stop Stone from discussing the case when he is away from the courthouse.

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lol lol lol lol lol

falloff Yeah, Love that Deep State Hitman. Mueller needs a t-shirt.

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He got arrested wearing this. cool

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