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Thread started 06/23/18 9:30am

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John Roberts did something good. States can impose taxes on online sites.

A big fuck you To Amazon

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/18 9:30am

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Trump supported it. Nice.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #2 posted 06/23/18 9:47am

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You are so wrong. This is the final death blow to the small internet (mom & pop) style businesses. I know because I have one.

Amazon already collects taxes for the most part. This is all about killing off the little people. Such as, female run businesses on Etsy & Ebay that average less than 5K a year. Corporate wants NO competition and once again, the Supreme Court rules against the good of the citizens. They have been starving the states for years while the corporations raked it in. THAT's what needed to be fixed -corporate welfare, not one size fits all.

It was not John Roberts who tipped this. It was fucking Neil Gorsuch, Trump appointee, in a 5-4 decision. Keep your eye on the ball. I thought you were our resident radical?

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Reply #3 posted 06/23/18 9:49am

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That’s not a good thing. I agree with Poppy though.
Happy New Year!
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Reply #4 posted 06/23/18 10:16am

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2elijah said:

That’s not a good thing. I agree with Poppy though.


Picture your Aunt Minnie, who crochets the most perfect baby blankets (or Uncle Bob, who ties fish flies like an angel), and sells them online for a reasonable price - which is part of their income to cover household bills.


Collecting taxes from 50 states with each state having different regulations etc, along with site user fees, the skyrocketing US shipping prices (we subidise Chinese shipping by the way) we cannot collect, pay, or eat these taxes easily. It's HUGE for us.

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Reply #5 posted 06/23/18 11:05am

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eBay

Dear

The U.S. Supreme Court has announced their decision on the S. Dakota v. Wayfair case, overturning the long-standing rule that states could not tax businesses or sellers outside of that state's borders. Now is the time for Congress to act on legislation that protects small businesses.

And we need your help.

We are asking you to join us and digitally sign our petition to show our political leaders that you stand against new Internet tax burdens that could permanently damage U.S. small businesses like yours. The petition takes less than a minute to complete. We will soon be delivering this petition to President Trump, key members of Congress, and select state governors so we need you to participate now.

eBay has always supported tax policy that is fair to entrepreneurs, artisans, and small businesses. Rest assured that eBay will continue to fight this battle on your behalf!

Sincerely,

eBay



In my mailbox this morning. Sellers by and large hate ebay for their constant and escalating 'policies'. But even Ebay knows how bad this sucks for their bread & butter, the people they habitually ignore.

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Reply #6 posted 06/23/18 11:10am

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poppys said:



2elijah said:


That’s not a good thing. I agree with Poppy though.



Picture your Aunt Minnie, who crochets the most perfect baby blankets (or Uncle Bob, who ties fish flies like an angel), and sells them online for a reasonable price - which is part of their income to cover household bills.



Collecting taxes from 50 states with each state having different regulations etc, along with site user fees, the skyrocketing US shipping prices (we subidise Chinese shipping by the way) we cannot collect, pay, or eat these taxes easily. It's HUGE for us.

[Edited 6/23/18 10:50am]


It’s a darn shame isn’t it? disbelief
[Edited 6/23/18 11:14am]
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Reply #7 posted 06/23/18 12:16pm

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poppys said:

eBay

Dear

The U.S. Supreme Court has announced their decision on the S. Dakota v. Wayfair case, overturning the long-standing rule that states could not tax businesses or sellers outside of that state's borders. Now is the time for Congress to act on legislation that protects small businesses.

And we need your help.

We are asking you to join us and digitally sign our petition to show our political leaders that you stand against new Internet tax burdens that could permanently damage U.S. small businesses like yours. The petition takes less than a minute to complete. We will soon be delivering this petition to President Trump, key members of Congress, and select state governors so we need you to participate now.

eBay has always supported tax policy that is fair to entrepreneurs, artisans, and small businesses. Rest assured that eBay will continue to fight this battle on your behalf!

Sincerely,

eBay



In my mailbox this morning. Sellers by and large hate ebay for their constant and escalating 'policies'. But even Ebay knows how bad this sucks for their bread & butter, the people they habitually ignore.


Sorry Poppys - that sucks!

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Reply #8 posted 06/23/18 1:56pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

A big fuck you To Amazon



Taxes on online sites might just mean you pay more for the items or services

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Reply #9 posted 06/24/18 6:42am

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luv4u said:

2freaky4church1 said:

A big fuck you To Amazon



Taxes on online sites might just mean you pay more for the items or services


Exactly. We will all pay more. Not just for the taxes themselves either. The programs they will implement to handle all the bookeeping will be passed on to the consumer, as always. But what this really hurts is the little sellers - including artists.

That's why they could not get this shoved through for years - until now. Corporations want us to buy ONLY all their crappy mass-produced stuff from countries they chose because they could pay workers nothing. Wiping out our own talent pool. Some who have been working on their expertise their entire lives.

They have been cutting us out for years. Ebay saw the prices we were getting for some vintage and antique stuff, and gave samples to Asian manufacturers who copied them and flooded the market. It pretty much backfired. Who wants a mass produced "antique"? Still, it totally ruined the market for the original US objects that were rare and well made. We see this over & over in every category.

They could have given the states their taxes without making it a one size fits all. This way corporations got a leg up - again. Someone who makes $1500 a year selling online gets lumped in with Amazon. Gee, I wonder who wins?

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Reply #10 posted 06/24/18 7:11am

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poppys said:

luv4u said:



Taxes on online sites might just mean you pay more for the items or services


Exactly. We will all pay more. Not just for the taxes themselves either. The programs they will implement to handle all the bookeeping will be passed on to the consumer, as always. But what this really hurts is the little sellers - including artists.

That's why they could not get this shoved through for years - until now. Corporations want us to buy ONLY all their crappy mass-produced stuff from countries they chose because they could pay workers nothing. Wiping out our own talent pool. Some who have been working on their expertise their entire lives.

They have been cutting us out for years. Ebay saw the prices we were getting for some vintage and antique stuff, and gave samples to Asian manufacturers who copied them and flooded the market. It pretty much backfired. Who wants a mass produced "antique"? Still, it totally ruined the market for the original US objects that were rare and well made. We see this over & over in every category.

They could have given the states their taxes without making it a one size fits all. This way corporations got a leg up - again. Someone who makes $1500 a year selling online gets lumped in with Amazon. Gee, I wonder who wins?

[Edited 6/24/18 6:50am]

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Reply #11 posted 06/24/18 9:55pm

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boo! Why should a state get money if I buy something out of state? Like others have said you may no longer be able to buy some things from out of state as some stores will simply NOT want the hassle.

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #12 posted 06/24/18 9:56pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

A big fuck you To Amazon

amazon is for it! they know it will help their business.

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #13 posted 06/25/18 6:14am

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2freaky4church1 said:

John Roberts did something good. States can impose taxes on online sites.

A big fuck you To Amazon


Trump supported it. Nice.


I don't think you quite understand what this means.

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Reply #14 posted 06/25/18 9:27am

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All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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