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Reply #90 posted 05/25/17 9:51am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Dasein said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

as long as none of them has never used any racial slurs and has never been convicted of any crimes...


If that's the case, we ought to remove all memorials of white men who owned slaves and/or intentionally
caused war resulting in genocide.




yup anything that anyone finds in any way offensive ought to be removed.

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Reply #91 posted 05/25/17 9:54am

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Dasein said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

as long as none of them has never used any racial slurs and has never been convicted of any crimes...


If that's the case, we ought to remove all memorials of white men who owned slaves and/or intentionally
caused war resulting in genocide.




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Reply #92 posted 05/25/17 10:00am

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purplepoppy said:

Dasein said:


If that's the case, we ought to remove all memorials of white men who owned slaves and/or intentionally
caused war resulting in genocide.




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so basically everything in DC needs to go

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Reply #93 posted 05/25/17 10:27am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



purplepoppy said:


Let's have revolving statues of musicians from NOLA. So many to choose from:

Mahalia Jackson, Louis Armstrong (FYI - He did not like being called "Louie"), Pete Fountain, Frankie Ford, Allen Toussaint, Ellis, Branford, Wynton, Delfayo and Jason Marsalis, Harry Connick Jr, Irma Thomas, Jon Batiste, Trombone Shorty (Troy Andrews), Ludacris, Big Freedia. Yeah! - lets put Lil Wayne on a 60ft pedestal.





as long as none of them has never used any racial slurs and has never been convicted of any crimes...


It seems you are missing the point of 'progress' being made. By that community having some of those statues removed, because of what they represent, is a good step in the right direction of correcting some wrongs of America's ugly past. Would you support a KKK statue in a Black or Jewish community?
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Reply #94 posted 05/25/17 10:57am

Dasein

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplepoppy said:

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so basically everything in DC needs to go


Sure!

Why the fuck not? I mean, why glorify a bunch of slave owning sexist hypocrites who didn't want to
pay their taxes without representation and purposefully subjugated not only African-Americans but
damn near extirpated Native Americans under the guise of God and manifest destiny?

Or, art thou being sarcastic?

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Reply #95 posted 05/25/17 10:59am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Dasein said:


If that's the case, we ought to remove all memorials of white men who owned slaves and/or intentionally
caused war resulting in genocide.

yup anything that anyone finds in any way offensive ought to be removed.


Hey Dasein my brotha, just for YOU I'm gone post a few statues of men that have said and done offensive things. Hope ya don't mind my brotha. wink

Here's the first ...

Shit, where do I begin with the vile things this guy did? The songs about killing white people? The assault conviction against Allen Hughes, an assault he later bragged about? The attempted assault conviction when he tried to hit Chauncey Wynn with a baseball bat? The gun he pulled at an outdoor festival that wound up killing a 6-year-old boy?

Okay, how about being convicted of a vicious sexual assault that was described by the judge as an "act of brutal violence against a helpless woman".

"Just as we began kissing, the door opened and I heard people entering. As I started to turn to see who it was, Tupac grabbed my head and told me, "Don't move." I looked down at him and he said, "Don't worry, baby, these are my brothers and they ain't going to hurt you. We do everything together." I started to shake my head, "No, no, Pac, I came here to be with you. I came here to see you. I don't want to do this." I started to rise up off the bed but he brutally slammed my head down. My lips and face came crashing down hard onto his penis, he squeezed the back of my neck, and I started to gag. Tupac and Nigel held me down while Trevor forced his penis into my mouth. I felt hands tearing my shoes off, ripping my stockings and panties off. I couldn't move; I felt paralyzed, trapped, and I started to black out. They leered at my body. "This bitch got a fat ass, she's fine."

So hey Dasein, I guess you're all for removing the multiple statues of Pac ... right?

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #96 posted 05/25/17 11:04am

Dasein

^

Tupac Shakur remains a mightily strong influence in my life; I appreciate him for the man he was,
and the man he was trying to desperately become. I see a direct link from his work to the work I
do now in my community.

Thank you for this post.

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Reply #97 posted 05/25/17 11:13am

Pokeno4Money

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Dasein said:

^

Tupac Shakur remains a mightily strong influence in my life; I appreciate him for the man he was,
and the man he was trying to desperately become. I see a direct link from his work to the work I
do now in my community.


Just as I thought, damn hypocrite.

Thanks for once again proving my point, my brotha.

Keep right on supporting racist convicted rapists, suits you perfectly. wink

Ready for the next statue?




"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #98 posted 05/25/17 11:26am

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Watch as the crowd cheers the Lee statue being removed: :clap:

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Reply #99 posted 05/25/17 11:32am

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Jefferson Davis monument being removed, as the crowd cheers: :clap:


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Reply #100 posted 05/25/17 11:34am

Dasein

2elijah said:

Watch as the crowd cheers the Lee statue being removed: clapping



clapping

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Reply #101 posted 05/25/17 11:34am

Dasein

2elijah said:

Jefferson Davis monument being removed, as the crowd cheers: clapping


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Reply #102 posted 05/25/17 12:31pm

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Historyphbia ~ those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #103 posted 05/25/17 12:38pm

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2elijah said:

Watch as the crowd cheers the Lee statue being removed: clapping

yeahthat highfive faint dancing jig excited falloff

Robert E Lee was supposed to be a decent guy for his time albeit on the wrong side of history and well, everything. He is free too in a weird way.

Lee Circle used to be called Tivoli Circle and is where a lot of stuff happens, upriver and downriver connect in New Orleans. Meet ups, parade stops and starts, just everything for close to 300 years.

Fresh start to the circle. sun rose present rainbo party guitar

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Reply #104 posted 05/25/17 1:07pm

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Historyphbia ~ those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it

You are saying a fear of history? Let the people 150 years from now decide what statues to keep that their children walk by every day. This is not your concern. The "history" argument is masking, we know all about that in nola, the good and the bad faces. Venture off Bourbon St and history oozes, no lack here. Only you are losing ground, literally. I understand that. LA is losing a football field of land every 48 mins. Something that is actually concerning.

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Reply #105 posted 05/25/17 1:45pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Historyphbia ~ those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it

That's why these statues and artifacts should be put in a museum, and their history, and most importantly, their context, can be explained thoroughly

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Reply #106 posted 05/25/17 1:48pm

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Another interesting piece from the NY Times. Miss legislator Karl Oliver said that those removing the statues should be "lynched" ! Talk about NOT learning from history

https://www.nytimes.com/2...n&_r=0

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Reply #107 posted 05/25/17 1:50pm

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And another article from the NY Times about NO mayor Landrieu doing the right thing:

https://www.nytimes.com/2...pe=article

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Reply #108 posted 05/25/17 1:52pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Dasein said:


If that's the case, we ought to remove all memorials of white men who owned slaves and/or intentionally
caused war resulting in genocide.




yup anything that anyone finds in any way offensive ought to be removed.

If there were some in Germany who were fine with it, should they leave up Nazi artifacts ?

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Reply #109 posted 05/25/17 2:50pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplepoppy said:

Let's have revolving statues of musicians from NOLA. So many to choose from:

Mahalia Jackson, Louis Armstrong (FYI - He did not like being called "Louie"), Pete Fountain, Frankie Ford, Allen Toussaint, Ellis, Branford, Wynton, Delfayo and Jason Marsalis, Harry Connick Jr, Irma Thomas, Jon Batiste, Trombone Shorty (Troy Andrews), Ludacris, Big Freedia. Yeah! - lets put Lil Wayne on a 60ft pedestal.

as long as none of them has never used any racial slurs and has never been convicted of any crimes...

chillout

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Reply #110 posted 05/25/17 2:53pm

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The Times Picayune has had excellent coverage all along.

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Reply #111 posted 05/25/17 3:22pm

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jjhunsecker said:

Another interesting piece from the NY Times. Miss legislator Karl Oliver said that those removing the statues should be "lynched" ! Talk about NOT learning from history



https://www.nytimes.com/2...n&_r=0


Oliver is an idiot for saying or suggesting that. Seems he has no problem embracing or condoning a 'noose-type', racist action, and yet some folks question, why many wanted certain statues removed?
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Reply #112 posted 05/25/17 6:57pm

purplepoppy

2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

Another interesting piece from the NY Times. Miss legislator Karl Oliver said that those removing the statues should be "lynched" ! Talk about NOT learning from history

https://www.nytimes.com/2...n&_r=0

Oliver is an idiot for saying or suggesting that. Seems he has no problem embracing or condoning a 'noose-type', racist action, and yet some folks question, why many wanted certain statues removed?

Especially since he was saying it about other elected officials and had to be forced to apologize.

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Reply #113 posted 05/25/17 9:18pm

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purplepoppy said:

2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said: Oliver is an idiot for saying or suggesting that. Seems he has no problem embracing or condoning a 'noose-type', racist action, and yet some folks question, why many wanted certain statues removed?

Especially since he was saying it about other elected officials and had to be forced to apologize.

Shows the mentality we're dealing with here (and even on this forum ...)

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Reply #114 posted 05/26/17 3:56am

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jjhunsecker said:



purplepoppy said:




2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said: Oliver is an idiot for saying or suggesting that. Seems he has no problem embracing or condoning a 'noose-type', racist action, and yet some folks question, why many wanted certain statues removed?

Especially since he was saying it about other elected officials and had to be forced to apologize.




Shows the mentality we're dealing with here (and even on this forum ...)



Exactly. A lot of those type folks are sick with hatred they were taught from home, and would love to repeat the violence some of their thug ancestors committed. What Oliver said, proves what those statues meant to 'some', with Oliver's sick mentality, who opposed it being removed. Folks like Oliver are the sewage of many communities. His apology isn't genuine because he revealed who he really is when he made that comment...a racist. I'm glad the good citizens of NOLA, stood together having those statues removed.
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Reply #115 posted 05/26/17 9:41am

purplepoppy

2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

Shows the mentality we're dealing with here (and even on this forum ...)

Exactly. A lot of those type folks are sick with hatred they were taught from home, and would love to repeat the violence some of their thug ancestors committed. What Oliver said, proves what those statues meant to 'some', with Oliver's sick mentality, who opposed it being removed. Folks like Oliver are the sewage of many communities. His apology isn't genuine because he revealed who he really is when he made that comment...a racist. I'm glad the good citizens of NOLA, stood together having those statues removed.

Absolutely Unforgiveable. And Oliver is from (gonna be rude here) MissisSLOPPY, not even from Louisiana. OnlyDa burns me up so bad too because he is from Texas. Thought all these peckerwoods believed in "States Rights". Complete hypocrisy.

NOLA is changing for the better. All children are adored here. I see this as an action, visual & symbolic, for their future.

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Reply #116 posted 05/26/17 11:37am

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Exactly what I was discussing in another thread. The media raising awareness and keeping Americans aware of these existing, American domestic hate/terrorist groups, where some members use their racist ideology, similar to past, known hate groups, to carry acts of terror or threats, towards American communities, they hold racial hatred towards. Especially in these still, divisive times in America. These are the same type of folks in this country, who get angry when certain confederate statues, like the ones in NOLA, are taken down.



http://www.cnn.com/2017/0...index.html


Lynching re-emerges in new rhetoric of hate
By David Love

Updated 5:27 PM ET, Tue May 23, 2017
Black congressman threatened with lynching.

Language and images of lynching are re-emerging as tools of racial intimidation and oppression.

If we address this issue now -- both in the classroom and on a larger political scale -- we can prevent its normalization, writes Love

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(CNN)Over 150 years since the founding of the Ku Klux Klan -- a white supremacist group that unleashed terror against African Americans across the South -- language and images of lynching are re-emerging as tools of violence, intimidation and oppression. Society must identify and address this form of hateful rhetoric, or ignore it at our peril.

Last week, Mississippi State Representative Karl Oliver called for the lynching of the politicians who support the dismantling of Confederate monuments in neighboring Louisiana. The Koch-funded Republican freshman represents a district where Emmett Till, 14, was lynched in 1955 for allegedly whistling at a white woman

([i] My comment: Oliver's statement proves the racist mentality and hate that still exists in this country. We can't allow those who support these types of hate groups, bully people from exposing their hate, racist acts or existence.)[i]

"The destruction of these monuments, erected in the loving memory of our family and fellow Southern Americans, is both heinous and horrific," Oliver said on Facebook. "If the, and I use this term extremely loosely, 'leadership' of Louisiana wishes to, in a Nazi-ish fashion, burn books or destroy historical monuments of OUR HISTORY, they should be LYNCHED! Let it be known, I will do all in my power to prevent this from happening in our State."


Although Oliver later apologized for his remarks, acknowledging the word "lynched" was a particularly poor choice, the damage was done. This comes as Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) has received lynching threats after he called for the impeachment of President Trump on the floor of the House.


The symbols associated with lynching have reached college campuses as well. On May 1, white supremacists littered the campus of American University with bananas hanging from nooses. Their target was Taylor Dumpson, a black woman and the school's student body president. At the same time, a slaying at another campus is being investigated as a possible hate crime. White supremacist Sean Urbanski -- a University of Maryland student and member of the "Alt-Reich: Nation" Facebook group -- allegedly stabbed to death Richard Collins III, a black graduating senior at Bowie State and an Army lieutenant.


Town leadership apologizes for 1940 lynching

Town leadership apologizes for 1940 lynching 03:22
Lynching holds a particular significance in American history. For decades, lynching took the form of ritualized killings performed by white supremacists to uphold their racial purity and ensure their continued political and economic domination. The violence associated with lynching was part of a larger system of Jim Crow segregation that kept people of color subjugated, stripped them of their voting rights and precipitated the mass migration of millions of black people from the South.

According to the Equal Justice Initiative -- which plans to build a national memorial to the victims of lynching in Montgomery, Alabama -- 4,075 people were lynched in the United States between 1877 and 1950. Black children, women and men were beaten, burned, shot, drowned, mutilated and hanged from trees and telephone poles.
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Reply #117 posted 05/26/17 3:02pm

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purplepoppy said:

chillout


You radical liberals always think violence is the answer. no no no!

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #118 posted 05/27/17 8:50am

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Finally found the opportunity to use that - good stuff. chillout

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Reply #119 posted 05/29/17 2:06pm

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Baltimore mayor eyes removal of Confederate monuments - CNN

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